Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1078

#151 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/25/2013 11:42:34 AM | message detail
It's not Ryu, it's Yuri. As in the same one who got 13% on Samus back in 2005.
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#152 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/25/2013 11:43:22 AM | message detail
Baseman posted...
So Lara > Yuri > Slime?


Yuri was the weakest character in 2005, and Shadow Hearts has fewer fans here than Madden.

I'd take every character we've seen so far except Chester to at worst have a 50/50 shot at beating Yuri. I'd be floored if Yuri came close to 2nd.
#153 | Baseman (Moderator) | Posted 7/25/2013 11:43:47 AM | message detail
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#154 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/25/2013 11:43:57 AM | message detail
Hey now

Yuri could beat Caim
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#155 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/25/2013 11:44:08 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
machinegungeek posted...
I think Ratchet is doing poorly not due to his PS2 origins (or at least too much from this) but from the fact that Altair also thrives on recognition votes. Jak/Spyro relied on weak, niche competition. Altair, on the other hand, is probably exerting recognizability SFF on Ratchet. Or something.


recognizabillity SFF? that's a new one
although yeah, Ratchet doesn't get to rely on being the only recognizable character unlike Spyro/Crash/Jak


He didn't word it well, but what he's talking about is the reason why I was so astonished that people didn't have Spyro winning. Replace Altair with another character of that strength that isn't as mainstream, and Ratchet probably wins.
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#156 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/25/2013 11:44:25 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Hey now

Yuri could beat Caim


Caim is one of those '50/50's!
#157 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/25/2013 11:44:41 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
LOLContests posted...
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Yeah but we can't just arbitrarily throw around "third place factor" when we clearly don't understand it. Reyn had even less reason to get "third place factor'd" than Shulk because Reyn stood out more.


It's not so much third place factor, as it is OBVIOUS third place factor. If there's a match like this one where 3rd place is somewhat in doubt, the third place character performs fine.


Shulk wasn't obviously going to be last?
huh


By the time the match started, it was obvious he'd be in third place. Heck, pretty much from the moment Dunban's match started. But before the contest, people actually thought Xenoblade could do okay. It was a big-name, critically-acclaimed RPG, and this site loves RPGs.
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#158 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/25/2013 11:46:13 AM | message detail
Altair rSFFing Ratchet, really?
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#159 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/25/2013 11:46:58 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Nanis23 posted...
2007 was 6 years ago so I don't remember
But wasn't L block victory in the first round well recieved...?
There are more "ITS A HORSE" complaints than I remember "ITS A BLOCK" back then
I even think Board 8 supported L block...

So Epoina will not get the same support L block had then..?


Epona's problem is being a Zelda character. This board isn't nearly as big on the Zelda series as the site as a whole is, and to be honest sometimes Zelda entities performing well in contests even makes me sick at times (though Epona's match yesterday wasn't one of them).


With Epona, all the hipster nerds were upset that the horse from one of the best and most popular games of all time was beating their obscure Waifu JRPG character.

With L-Block, it was just an obsurdly hilarious joke that "ruined" the "seriousness" of the contest.

Both groups were moronic.
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#160 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/25/2013 11:47:31 AM | message detail
I don't think we've had a Shadow Hearts game since 2006 and I don't even think Yuri was in that one.
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#161 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/25/2013 11:47:35 AM | message detail
I never have heard of Shadow Hearts
#162 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 7/25/2013 11:48:18 AM | message detail
Baseman posted...
So Lara > Yuri > Slime?

Slime could potentially win!

(Okay, it's not very likely, but Yuri certainly has no chance of making that happen!)
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#163 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/25/2013 11:48:46 AM | message detail
With Epona, all the hipster nerds were upset that the horse from one of the best and most popular games of all time was beating their obscure Waifu JRPG character.

>_>
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#164 | LOLContests | Posted 7/25/2013 11:52:09 AM | message detail
L-Block was loved on the Board for most of its run when it was a joke that we were playing on the rest of the site. It wasn't until people from outside GameFAQS got involved and it became a joke that was being played on *us*, and until people started coming on the board and attacking us, that people turned against it.
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#165 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/25/2013 11:52:20 AM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Nanis23 posted...
2007 was 6 years ago so I don't remember
But wasn't L block victory in the first round well recieved...?
There are more "ITS A HORSE" complaints than I remember "ITS A BLOCK" back then
I even think Board 8 supported L block...

So Epoina will not get the same support L block had then..?


Epona's problem is being a Zelda character. This board isn't nearly as big on the Zelda series as the site as a whole is, and to be honest sometimes Zelda entities performing well in contests even makes me sick at times (though Epona's match yesterday wasn't one of them).


With Epona, all the hipster nerds were upset that the horse from one of the best and most popular games of all time was beating their obscure Waifu JRPG character.


What the heck? Epona's victory came against two Western characters. Her opponents next round are another Western character and a character who's in Brawl, which is pretty much a guarantee of not being "obscure" (though it also at least does make you Japanese). The only "female" of the four is a freakin' AI.

But please, go on about how pissed people are about Epona beating their waifus.
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#166 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/25/2013 11:54:04 AM | message detail
I wonder if Yuri from Red Alert can be stronger than Yuri from Shadow Hearts...!
#167 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/25/2013 11:55:29 AM | message detail | (edited)
lol MVP Baseball 2005

xd MVP Baseball 2005
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#168 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/25/2013 11:55:31 AM | message detail
Mordin is totally my waifu
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#169 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/25/2013 11:56:31 AM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
machinegungeek posted...
I think Ratchet is doing poorly not due to his PS2 origins (or at least too much from this) but from the fact that Altair also thrives on recognition votes. Jak/Spyro relied on weak, niche competition. Altair, on the other hand, is probably exerting recognizability SFF on Ratchet. Or something.


recognizabillity SFF? that's a new one
although yeah, Ratchet doesn't get to rely on being the only recognizable character unlike Spyro/Crash/Jak


He didn't word it well, but what he's talking about is the reason why I was so astonished that people didn't have Spyro winning. Replace Altair with another character of that strength that isn't as mainstream, and Ratchet probably wins.


People didn't have Spyro winning because they never learn that the only franchises you can trust to automatically give a character strength are those that are primarily associated with video games. It's the same reason why people thought that the name Darth Revan and a lightsaber in his match pic would be enough to beat Terra, and it didn't happen.
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#170 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/25/2013 11:57:06 AM | message detail
Chart from the night match:

Time | Epona | Mordin | Niko | Votes
0:05 | 60.00% | 26.47% | 13.53% | 340
1:00 | 51.03% | 29.92% | 19.05% | 5395
2:00 | 49.08% | 31.95% | 18.97% | 3058
3:00 | 46.97% | 31.08% | 21.95% | 2278
4:00 | 45.36% | 34.29% | 20.36% | 1852
5:00 | 42.79% | 33.55% | 23.65% | 1505
6:00 | 44.34% | 33.46% | 22.21% | 1351
7:00 | 45.78% | 33.73% | 20.48% | 1494
8:00 | 49.78% | 30.69% | 19.53% | 1792
9:00 | 46.75% | 31.50% | 21.75% | 2000
10:00 | 49.13% | 31.76% | 19.11% | 2119
11:00 | 47.40% | 31.74% | 20.85% | 2177
12:00 | 48.21% | 30.19% | 21.59% | 2070

Nothing too surprising here. Epona can't replicate that first hour magic, tanks overnight, and recovers a bit with the morning vote. Mordin and Niko do their best work at night.

X-Stats:

Epona – 50.00%
Mordin Solus – 39.73%
Niko Bellic – 29.89%

Epona's prediction percentage was 53.27%
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#171 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/25/2013 11:57:24 AM | message detail
Ah crap, yesterday's match was so boring and uneventful I just naturally assumed that one of the 500 Fails of or Xenofodder characters
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#172 | SebVettel | Posted 7/25/2013 11:58:00 AM | message detail
Nikko and Mordin are so weaboo it hurts.
#173 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/25/2013 11:58:35 AM | message detail
It's the same reason why people thought that the name Darth Revan and a lightsaber in his match pic would be enough to beat Terra, and it didn't happen.

We also didn't expect Terra to be that strong, Revan does have some strength.
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#174 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/25/2013 11:58:39 AM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
machinegungeek posted...
I think Ratchet is doing poorly not due to his PS2 origins (or at least too much from this) but from the fact that Altair also thrives on recognition votes. Jak/Spyro relied on weak, niche competition. Altair, on the other hand, is probably exerting recognizability SFF on Ratchet. Or something.


recognizabillity SFF? that's a new one
although yeah, Ratchet doesn't get to rely on being the only recognizable character unlike Spyro/Crash/Jak


He didn't word it well, but what he's talking about is the reason why I was so astonished that people didn't have Spyro winning. Replace Altair with another character of that strength that isn't as mainstream, and Ratchet probably wins.


People didn't have Spyro winning because they never learn that the only franchises you can trust to automatically give a character strength are those that are primarily associated with video games. It's the same reason why people thought that the name Darth Revan and a lightsaber in his match pic would be enough to beat Terra, and it didn't happen.


Darth Revan didn't flop, it was just Terra being stronger than expected.

If Dissidia never happened, we'd view Revan SO differently...
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#175 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/25/2013 11:59:03 AM | message detail
Revan would've beaten Terra if not for Dissidia.
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#176 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/25/2013 11:59:22 AM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Ah crap, yesterday's match was so boring and uneventful I just naturally assumed that one of the 500 Fails of or Xenofodder characters


I dunno, I thought Epona kicking ass was eventful enough.
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#177 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/25/2013 12:00:30 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Revan would've beaten Terra if not for Dissidia.


I remember I picked Terra initially, then I think the board convinced me to switch to Revan.

Similarly, I picked Gilgamesh initially to win a match this contest, then the board convinced me to switch to Booker. Uh oh?
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#178 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:01:09 PM | message detail
L-Block was loved on the Board for most of its run when it was a joke that we were playing on the rest of the site. It wasn't until people from outside GameFAQS got involved and it became a joke that was being played on *us*, and until people started coming on the board and attacking us, that people turned against it.

No it wasn't there were a lot of people upset that it made the contest, that's where the whole "some people don't know how to have fun" thing came up.
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#179 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/25/2013 12:02:12 PM | message detail
Reminder that even if Draven gets a massive rally and wins, it won't be nearly as big of an upset as L-Block, who many experts on the board had losing to Laharl.
#180 | xp1337 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:04:47 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't recall the exact level of board favorability all throughout L-Block's run, but there was opposition from the very beginning.
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#181 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/25/2013 12:07:30 PM | message detail
Most people were excited as hell for those L-Block board votes though.

I think Moltar (jokingly) called L-Block > Link a minute into Block/Kirby!
#182 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:07:45 PM | message detail
I still don't understand why people are afraid of Draven
There is one thing to beat Jak and totally different thing to beat Link
I believe Ryu and X SFFing each other will be enough to make Draven look like a joke as well
#183 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:10:06 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I still don't understand why people are afraid of Draven
There is one thing to beat Jak and totally different thing to beat Link
I believe Ryu and X SFFing each other will be enough to make Draven look like a joke as well


because of LoL rallying, because I suspect LoL has more of a hivemind compared to most other fanbases
#184 | xp1337 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:11:21 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I still don't understand why people are afraid of Draven
There is one thing to beat Jak and totally different thing to beat Link
I believe Ryu and X SFFing each other will be enough to make Draven look like a joke as well

The fear comes from the Draven side becoming increasingly prepared and more effective over time, I think. If nothing else, there was a considerable amount of time in the Jak match where Draven wasn't making use of a rally, that's an area that can easily be "improved" upon.
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#185 | paulg235 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:11:32 PM | message detail
If Draven wins Round 2, then I'm totally rooting for him to upset Link just for the hilarious result.
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#186 | tgs2 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:12:09 PM | message detail
I would worry more about Teemo, but if Draven can beat Ryu/X, then it's worth discussion as Round 3 is 24 hours which will make it easier for LoL to get a massive rally going. Link is going to also be receiving his fair share of anti-votes in the beginning and that's all it will take if the LoL rally is anything like L-Block in 2007.
#187 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:13:30 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
I still don't understand why people are afraid of Draven
There is one thing to beat Jak and totally different thing to beat Link
I believe Ryu and X SFFing each other will be enough to make Draven look like a joke as well


because of LoL rallying, because I suspect LoL has more of a hivemind compared to most other fanbases

Yes but that so-called rally let him beat Jak by 2900 votes
Yoshi beat Jak with 76%
Draven can't beat Draven even with a stronger rally...it just won't happen
#188 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:13:48 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
I would worry more about Teemo, but if Draven can beat Ryu/X, then it's worth discussion as Round 3 is 24 hours which will make it easier for LoL to get a massive rally going. Link is going to also be receiving his fair share of anti-votes in the beginning and that's all it will take if the LoL rally is anything like L-Block in 2007.


the thing is nobody really anti-voted L-Block, people will anti-vote Draven quite heavily
#189 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:13:51 PM | message detail
I still don't understand why people are afraid of Draven
There is one thing to beat Jak and totally different thing to beat Link
I believe Ryu and X SFFing each other will be enough to make Draven look like a joke as well


Joke/Rallied characters don't follow strengths, let's say MMX gets 15k and Draven 2k votes in a normal match, Draven would need 13k to win which based on his peak performance is something he is capable of doing.
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#190 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/25/2013 12:14:26 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
I would worry more about Teemo, but if Draven can beat Ryu/X, then it's worth discussion as Round 3 is 24 hours which will make it easier for LoL to get a massive rally going. Link is going to also be receiving his fair share of anti-votes in the beginning and that's all it will take if the LoL rally is anything like L-Block in 2007.


We can but hope! Fingers crossed the LoL guys here make noises in the right places to make this happen.
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#191 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/25/2013 12:15:58 PM | message detail
Remember, Draven only had 20% in a match with Jak and Chie. He's going to be starting from an even bigger deficit next time, and he has to deal with the fact that a lot of these LoL guys are going to be fans of MMX and Ryu as well.
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#192 | Colegreen_c12 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:16:21 PM | message detail
People are entirely underestimating LoL's fanbase if they think he can't win the whole thing. If riot puts a link on their client for an hour, he will get more votes than most matches have.
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#193 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/25/2013 12:16:24 PM | message detail
Also, woo Altair.

He was kind of a douche in AC1 but Revelations redeemed his character to the point that I'm rooting for him. Of course, there'll be an issue if he ends up outperforming Ezio.

And I only realized today that SPRING BREEZE DANCIN'!!!!!!! 's match is on Monday omg the hype.
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#194 | xp1337 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:18:21 PM | message detail
Let's suppose Link goes down for a moment here. Just how bad does it get for the remainder of the contest? I'm thinking the floodgates burst open at that point and it just becomes ugly for Sephiroth and Cloud/Snake.
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#195 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:21:09 PM | message detail | (edited)
Now that people see him as a potential Link-breaker, he should have an increase in base strength.

Not to mention, that previous rally only started 3 hours into the match, if the fanbase rallies him right from the get-go in the next match, it could get ugly easily.
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#196 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/25/2013 12:18:49 PM | message detail
Altair was worse in Revelations. I liked him better when he was just generic assassin dude.
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#197 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:19:30 PM | message detail
Assuming Jak doubling Draven held true Draven got about 9.5k rallied votes, they'll have more work to do, but winning is something they are capable of doing.

We'll wait to see what Teemo does.
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#198 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/25/2013 12:19:49 PM | message detail
Obviously with Link gone, there's no need to fight anymore, so Draven falls to Sephiroth, leading to a Cloud/Sephiroth split allowing Mario to win it all.
#199 | KommunistKoala | Posted 7/25/2013 12:21:13 PM | message detail
#200 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/25/2013 12:24:25 PM | message detail | (edited)
Colegreen_c12 posted...
People are entirely underestimating LoL's fanbase if they think he can't win the whole thing. If riot puts a link on their client for an hour, he will get more votes than most matches have.


If Riot puts a link to Gamefaqs in the in-game client than by all means,Draven/Teemo wins the character battle
Summoner Showcase gets 200-300k views in the first day and they are 4 minutes talk about NAILS AND PLUSHIES
(yes i'm serious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLY3iktPo2I&feature=player_embedded )
So clicking on a link,pressing a button that takes 3 seconds will not be a problem
And if all the views that those videos get in a day goes to a gamefaqs poll..then we will have the poll with most votes ever (the Record was 195k? ) and about 10x as much votes as a regular match now

But that only if Riot will do it...and they won't