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Lightning Strikes posted... Yes, they do. Samus has always had non-Nintendo trends. She's one of the most consistant characters we've ever had. It is known. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Lightning Strikes posted... I'm just sick of people acting like things are fact without proof. Except I'm looking at every trend chart I have on Samus! Not sure what else you want me to do! I mean, you can assume Samus magically has an ASV now, but yeah. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
It is sizeable relative to the night vote. The night vote which cancelled out the power hour. You can't say anything about what the data points to though, because the data is insufficient. Seriously, this is a meaningless debate. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
But
it's really not. Samus has never had a strong day vote, no matter what
year you go back to. She is a very balanced character. She doesn't dip
as low as Nintendo characters do at night, and she doesn't rise as high
as they do during the day. And FFVII would do better during the day, with or without the Euro vote. --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
So ignoring that previous discussion completely. I think Ike will be fine. Protoman might be winning in the US but narrowly, Ike is still slowly increasing his lead, and is killing it in Australia, which is waking up. I could be wrong, but I doubt this will change. It had better not. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
I have an inquietude. The answer may be obvious to some people but whatever. Cole vs. Niko Bellic, who you got? --- SuperNiceDog wags his tail better than your regular, standard dog. -If someone scares the hell out of you, then are you protected by God? |
And as I write that Ike gets a big lead increase. Nicely done. Also Leon, we both disagree what the very limited data shows. This is going nowhere. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
LeonhartFour posted... Feel free to disregard anything LMS says because he'll say something different tomorrow when he perceives it's not the majority opinion. So true. Whereas I stubbornly stick to my opinion no matter how far it deviates from the majority opinion. (It looked horrible yesterday when this meant the worst score by any Oracle who submitted a prediction by 3.50 points. In this match, I'm poised for my second top 5 of the contest! #3, a good deal behind the top two but fairly comfortably ahead of #4 and easily ahead of #5. Ironically, the current #4 is the one who only beat me by 3.50 in Bayonetta/N/Wander!) --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Whoa, 26 vote cut for Protoman. Might be an anomaly though. Protoman's vote total spiked on that update. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
Let the epic choke from Ike begin. Duke and Gordon PWND you in 2007. (Just as I predicted) Pikachu and Arthas PWND you in 2008. (Just as I predicted) Zidane should've PWND you in 2010. (Which cost me 2 points so that makes us even.) Now it's finally time for Protoman to shine! (Even it costs me 3 points since the winner here most likely beats GlaDOS.) *whistles*. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. SuperNiceDog > Me |
Actually, Protoman winning here makes that round 2 match a lot more interesting. I had been taking it for granted that Ike/Epona LFF lets GlaDOS get into round 3, but if Protoman's there, that factor goes away. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... It is known. It is known. --- ¸¸,.•´¯`•.,¸¸,.•´¯`•.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.•´¯`•.,¸¸,.•´¯`•.,¸¸ How does it feel when all you're counting on is scatterbrained? |
I guess Robotnik won't finish above 30% Proto Man is now winning the stall war, but with night coming soon for Europe he might get a stronger foot hold --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 25/30 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ike |
Ike's
added 25 votes to his lead in the past two hours. I think Proto Man let
the lead get too big before stalling him out though - if this was
around 300 instead of 450 I'd be quite a bit more concerned. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
Message From ZenOfThunder on 07/24/2013 There's all this stupid buzz going around Board 8 about Epona potentially having Link in her picture. Are you going to allow that, or is it going too far? Message From GameFAQs on 07/24/2013 There are pictures of Epona solo out there, so I think there is nothing to be worried about. neigh --- ~Zen |
Protoman's cut nearly 60 votes off of Ike's peak lead in the last 30 minutes. Hopefully he'll make this interesting. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/477513/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-1-o.gif http://gifsoup.com/view/477534/red-vs-blue-road-rage-part-2-o.gif |
I am now concerned. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
Well. I think the Ike-backers better start "rallying." --- sig |
Make that 80. Down to a 400 vote lead now. C'mon Protoman! --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
YES EUROPE! SLEEP --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
Proto Man has been gaining in the US as well. Ike is winning mostly due to Canada and Australia with Europe giving Ike support over Proto Man. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 25/30 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ike |
I can't believe this Samus-Cloud debate is happening again. This has been addressed a million times...from 8am-12pm, Cloud got 54% against Samus,
over a percent higher than what he finished with. I have no idea where
anyone would get the notion Samus wins a day match, when she clearly
weakened during the actual daytime hours!! Samus is pretty much the most 12 hour day-12 hour night match neutral character around. It's been analyzed to death. Yes she has some trends during parts of the 12 hour segments, but overall a day/night match does not matter to her. All her 24 hour matches bear this out - whether she does better in the first 12 hours or the second 12 is determined by her opponent's trends, not hers. Samus would have done worse against Cloud in a day match, and Missingno sure as hell would not have beaten Sephiroth in a day match. Missingno collapsed during the day. The Power Hour(s) are the only reason either of those matches ever appeared close. FF7 always does the "rise to heaven" thing, even though it's ASV is now much weaker than it was back in the day. (also the fact that most meaningful FF7 matches are against Zelda or Pokemon make it's ASV look worse, because Zelda and Pokemon have god-tier ASVs) And FF7's night vote is absurdly overrated - very few votes come in during those hours, mostly from places like the Phillipines. Night matches are by and large decided by the Power Hours and morning vote. The overnight vote only looks good for FF7 because the Power Hour wears off. FF7 sucks at 12 hour matches, basically. The static-anti-votes hurt it. In a 24 hour match they are diluted. *Any* 12 hour match is a disadvantage for FF7 compared to 24 hour matches. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
On cue. But how long can it last? --- sig |
Huh. What's this a Protoman comeback? This might get interesting. --- This is my signature. |
I've
barely played a Mega Man game yet I like Proto Man here because his
character design is pretty cool. He seems more likable than Ike. Also it's good that the stall-fest finally ended...this started off as the most boring close match ever. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Someone needs to fix lol x-stats for our new terrible votals! If Ike could pull that many votes in a 24-hour match I'd take him to win the contest easily..! Total votes is based on votals from that season, so the Ike/Proto setup he calced was pointing back to matches like this http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3778 Don't worry, the totals will be go way down and be more realistic once the 2013 stats have been added. --- thengamer.com/guru | thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com Oh gosh, you really should listen to The Show! |
Man that -44(?) vote cut by Protoman. Maybe there was no reason to get scared for a minute --- This is my signature. |
Wouldn't
FFVII perform worse in a day match because those anti-votes will still
show up, plus it's a day match, I feel people that vote in the power
hour are the most dedicated voters and will vote in both matches, we
don't see the terrible start because those votes are more likely to be
spread over the day. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 25/30 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ike |
charmander6000 posted... Wouldn't FFVII perform worse in a day match because those anti-votes will still show up, plus it's a day match, I feel people that vote in the power hour are the most dedicated voters and will vote in both matches, we don't see the terrible start because those votes are more likely to be spread over the day. Depends on who they're against. After the first couple hours, FF7 characters are pretty consistant. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
LinkMarioSamus posted... Something which these contests almost reflect, as Auron and Squall are the only non-FFVII characters to have done much in these contests. Vivi says hi. Beat DK, got 47.37% on Pikachu while being LFFed by Tidus (whom he beat out for third place in the match), avoided a doubling against Snake in a round 1 second-place finish and got 49.64% on Zero in the battle for second place the following round (with Ryu Hayabusa, who also has some nice wins on his résumé, the distant fourth in the match), beat DK again and followed it up with a win over Altair. Lightning Strikes already mentioned that Yuna and Jecht have been to Round 3 (Rikku has, too!), but there's not as much notable involved with those. Jecht's win over Phoenix Wright looks nice after this year's performance by Phoenix, but Ratchet's never been terribly strong and only made R2 because of a really weak opponent. Rikku's only trip to R3 came in the female bracket, ditto Yuna's trip to Round 4. Yuna did also make R3 in 2007, and...well, the R2 win over Alucard and Liquid Snake looks nice. But all in all, Yuna doesn't have as many quality wins as Vivi. I know, I know, I forget about him too. Last week or so, I was trying to list characters who were stronger than the main character of their game, and I completely forgot about Vivi being obviously stronger than Zidane. But yeah, Vivi's probably the...seventh-strongest FF character here. Cloud's #1, obviously, and Sephiroth is #2. I guess Tifa's #3 now? I'm not buying all that talk that Vincent's still stronger than her in spite of what happened in 2010. And given how close they were already when they met in 2005, I'm putting Squall #4 and Vincent #5. Auron's #6, and that's about it for FF characters who appear to be stronger than Vivi...oh, no, wait, Zack's probably stronger, too. Actually, Zack might be #6, Auron #7, Vivi #8. We'll put Aerith at #9 because even though she might be indirectly a little weaker than Yuna or Rikku, it's no sure thing and she'd easily still beat either one of them in an actual match. And, uh, you choose which of the two FFX girls gets the #10 spot. Yuna would be the logical choice, but most of the X-Stats actually point to Rikku being indirectly stronger. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Oh god. Not the stalls starting again...augh. charmander6000 posted... Wouldn't FFVII perform worse in a day match because those anti-votes will still show up, plus it's a day match, I feel people that vote in the power hour are the most dedicated voters and will vote in both matches, we don't see the terrible start because those votes are more likely to be spread over the day. No, because day matches have more votes. The anti-votes matter a bit less. As we've seen time and again, it's basically a static base of anti-votes, not a relative %age based one. The Power Hour votes matter significantly more in a night match because they represent a higher %age of total votes. This contest the day/night vote totals haven't differed as much as usual, probably because it's summer, but during most contests day matches get about 20% more votes than night matches. But again, the point is that it's 12 hour matches in general that FF7 sucks at. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
It's over, my beloved Proto Man is dead in the water, this is far too much stalling --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...Something which these contests almost reflect, as Auron and Squall are the only non-FFVII characters to have done much in these contests. No way Zack is stronger than Auron. I'd also take Squall and Vincent over Tifa any day. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Whiskey_Nick posted... It's over, my beloved Proto Man is dead in the water, this is far too much stalling Not entirely true. He won't hit his stride until around 9pm based on historic trends. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
Yeah, my first instinct was Auron > Zack, too, but FF7Fear, especially against non-7 FF. But no, I'd definitely take Tifa > Vincent. Not sure about Tifa-Squall; that could go either way. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Zack over Auron is probably a bigger upset than Megaman>Charizard. No joke. Same with Tifa>Squall. |
But again, the point is that it's 12 hour matches in general that FF7 sucks at. My point is FFVII would still rather have night matches than day matches because they have the night vote to offset their terrible start while they do not have that during the day vote yet anti-votes are still there. Of course 24 hours will be the best because more votes to offset the anti-votes even if the day vote is not their best it's better than the anti-vote period. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 25/30 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ike |
It's
not over for Proto Man, but he does need to keep stall-cutting. He'll
also need to gain a bit more in the US as Canada is able to offset them
right now (or he can gain percent in Canada) --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 25/30 Today's Picks: GlaDOS and Ike |
First time in the match that one character drops under 30%.Not bad. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
KanzarisKelshen posted... Zack over Auron is probably a bigger upset than Megaman>Charizard. No joke. Same with Tifa>Squall. Well I wouldn't go quite that far, but yeah Auron is definitely stronger than Zack. Tifa/Squall are closer. As for Tifa/Vincent, that's just very inconclusive. We have little to go on, and absolutely everyone knew beforehand that Seph would SFF Vincent much worse than Tifa, even though at the time most considered Vincent stronger indirectly than Tifa. The Oracle predictions for Seph against Vincent were much higher. Part of that is that people adjusted Seph down for the Tifa match because of underperformance against Vincent, but it was widely discussed before either match took place that Vincent would end up looking worse than Tifa. That was completely expected. Seph/Vincent have very obvious reasons for overlap. Seph/Tifa basically have none outside of the fact they share the same game. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Tifa has big boobs though.That matters right? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
If
Zack > Auron then based off their 2010 matches Yuna >= Zero,
which... would never have happened at any point. I'd take Tifa >
Vincent but probably go with Squall > Tifa (extremely interested to
see what happens there). Quite like to see Zack/Aeris too. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
charmander6000 posted... But again, the point is that it's 12 hour matches in general that FF7 sucks at. Except as I said, the overnight vote is horribly overrated and contributes very little to the total votes of the match. Power Hours+8am-12pm are what's really important in night matches. Unless you're like say Mega Man, who just sucks incredibly bad in Europe. But he's kind of an aberration. The perception that FF7 rises so much at night is because the Power Hour is just SOOO horrific for it. If you completely skipped over the entire 2am-8am segment, FF7 would still be doing a drastic rise in %age. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
So Tsunami, you believe Vincent beating Squall was because Vincent is from FFVII and there was reverse SFF? --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
charmander6000 posted... Proto Man has been gaining in the US as well. For reference, here were the results in the US at 5:00 PM: Ike 36.38% Proto Man 35.78% Dr. Ivo ''Eggman'' Robotnik 27.83% Proto Man has been consistently gaining percentage in the US, which will help his comeback as Europe goes to sleep. Also, Proto Man is destroying Ike in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia, so they will start waking up to vote near the end of the match. Asia will also spell doom to Ike as well. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
ZenOfThunder posted... Message From ZenOfThunder on 07/24/2013 http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5175.jpg Told you. --- Devin Morgan | CRP #3579 NES FAQ Completion Project: http://faqs.retronintendo.com |
A wild Devin Morgan has appeared! --- I pwn you all! |
neigh --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Yeah,
Proto should be going up at the moment because of who's going to sleep.
But what about who's waking up? Proto Man's easily in third place in
Australia and New Zealand right now, and a lot of Asia doesn't seem to
be favoring him either. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
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