Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1075

#251 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/24/2013 9:22:45 AM | message detail
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How this place has changed that Protoman could do so poorly with the board vote.


I think you can blame that on Ike being here.
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#252 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 7/24/2013 9:22:50 AM | message detail
Robotnik is still going to come in second here.
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#253 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:22:55 AM | message detail
Ike is pulling away and Proto Man just got hammered by Robotnik. This match.
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#254 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/24/2013 9:23:36 AM | message detail
Oh what the F*** was that.
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#255 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 7/24/2013 9:24:11 AM | message detail
As long as Ike pulls away to safety, I don't care.

Actually, Robotnik winning would be more interesting.
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#256 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:24:12 AM | message detail
Guru stats for this match?Anyone knows?
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#257 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/24/2013 9:25:07 AM | message detail
Starting to wonder if he in fact won the board vote and just went through a period of stuffing/rallying thats coming to an end, his fans tend to be pretty rabid about him. Looks good for Robotnik.
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#258 | SliceSabre | Posted 7/24/2013 9:25:16 AM | message detail
Oh man this might be an interesting constest!
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#259 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:25:24 AM | message detail
Guru stats for this match?Anyone knows?

Ike - 225 (91.84%)
Robotnik - 10 (4.08%)
Proto Man - 10 (4.08%)
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#260 | Oxbridge | Posted 7/24/2013 9:25:43 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Guru stats for this match?Anyone knows?


http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=32
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#261 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:25:51 AM | message detail
And now Protoman crashed
This is weird match
#262 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2013 9:26:52 AM | message detail
Hahahahahaha Ike is terrible (don't give me that Protoman boost nonsense either, look at ROBOTNIK)
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#263 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/24/2013 9:27:32 AM | message detail
And now a small cut.

This f***ing match.
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#264 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:27:44 AM | message detail
I believe Ike to be weaker than Marth
And Marth lost to Phoenix
So..
#265 | TsunamiXXVIII (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/24/2013 9:28:17 AM | message detail
C'mon, Robotnik, you can do this!

I was going to just No Pick this match in Expert but I forgot to disable my picks. As long as Ike wins this, though, the worst I can do is a +0 anyway.

But I'd take the +0 in Expert if it means being right about all three characters above 30%. Just the type of redemptive moment I needed after my miserable underestimation of Bayonetta yesterday.
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#266 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/24/2013 9:28:51 AM | message detail | (edited)
Obviously both Mega Man and Sonic characters (thanks to Lost World) have boosted!
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#267 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/24/2013 9:29:44 AM | message detail
Well, we did see Tails perform crazy-well in 2010...
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#268 | TsunamiXXVIII (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/24/2013 9:29:56 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I believe Ike to be weaker than Marth
And Marth lost to Phoenix
So..


No.

Just no.

In Japan, yeah. Marth was the original Fire Emblem hero; they love him there. But Ike was made with the international audience in mind, and the plan worked perfectly. In the US, which is what really matters for character battles, Ike's stronger.
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#269 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/24/2013 9:30:44 AM | message detail
I don't think Robotnik can beat Proto Man now, Europe is Robotnik's main backer (check out UK and Ireland) and Europe's vote share drops off the longer a day match goes on.
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#270 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2013 9:30:45 AM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Nanis23 posted...
I believe Ike to be weaker than Marth
And Marth lost to Phoenix
So..


No.

Just no.

In Japan, yeah. Marth was the original Fire Emblem hero; they love him there. But Ike was made with the international audience in mind, and the plan worked perfectly. In the US, which is what really matters for character battles, Ike's stronger.


How can people be allowed to post this stuff

don't we have rules anymore
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#271 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:30:51 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Obviously both Mega Man and Sonic characters (thanks to Lost World) have boosted!


No it was because of the comic "Worlds Collide"!!!!
(ok not really,but this can be the best game ever if it will be made)
#272 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/24/2013 9:31:08 AM | message detail
Whatever about the other two this is very good and very unexpected from Robotnik and a great sign for Sonic characters.
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#273 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 7/24/2013 9:32:40 AM | message detail
It's actually true that Ike is stronger than Marth, it's only logical.
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#274 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:32:42 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Nanis23 posted...
I believe Ike to be weaker than Marth
And Marth lost to Phoenix
So..


No.

Just no.

In Japan, yeah. Marth was the original Fire Emblem hero; they love him there. But Ike was made with the international audience in mind, and the plan worked perfectly. In the US, which is what really matters for character battles, Ike's stronger.


How can people be allowed to post this stuff

don't we have rules anymore


What?
Marth was in both Brawl and Melee
So he got more power from where it matters
Note-
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66805677
#275 | TsunamiXXVIII (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/24/2013 9:32:47 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Obviously both Mega Man and Sonic characters (thanks to Lost World) have boosted!


Lost World? I assumed that Sonic characters would've boosted since 2010 due to Colors and Generations, both highly well-received games that Sonic had been lacking for so long. (Of course, poor Knuckles wasn't in either of those games, so he might not feel the same boost that Sonic, Tails, and Robotnik will. Shadow probably won't feel the boost either, since he's not in Colors at all and only shows up for a boss battle in Generations)
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#276 | hawk533 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:33:09 AM | message detail
Another cut. Come on Proto Man, you can do this!
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#277 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:33:12 AM | message detail
What is this Eggman think?Isn't he called Dr Robotnik?Is that his surname?
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#278 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2013 9:33:28 AM | message detail
Oh, right, and this is a DAY match.

Ike could lose to both of these jokers in a night setup!

(Snake v Mario, indirectly if you must)
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#279 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:33:34 AM | message detail
It's all falling into place. FFX HD this year. Prepare yourselves for...

... Sin's Fin 2: The Revenge!
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#280 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/24/2013 9:34:30 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Hahahahahaha Ike is terrible (don't give me that Protoman boost nonsense either, look at ROBOTNIK)


We haven't seen Robotnik in 7 years. There's a number of cases of old, nostalgic characters like him getting stronger with time as GameFAQs gets older and more crotchety. Sonic Team has also looked in 2010 and Sonic killed his first match. I always thought it was weird that people were writing off Robotnik here, I didn't pick or expect him to win but I seriously doubted he would get blown out.
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#281 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:34:34 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Nanis23 posted...
I believe Ike to be weaker than Marth
And Marth lost to Phoenix
So..


No.

Just no.

In Japan, yeah. Marth was the original Fire Emblem hero; they love him there. But Ike was made with the international audience in mind, and the plan worked perfectly. In the US, which is what really matters for character battles, Ike's stronger.


How can people be allowed to post this stuff

don't we have rules anymore


What?
Marth was in both Brawl and Melee
So he got more power from where it matters
Note-
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66805677


people liked Ike in Brawl
people don't really care about Marth being in smash though
#282 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/24/2013 9:35:00 AM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Obviously both Mega Man and Sonic characters (thanks to Lost World) have boosted!


Lost World? I assumed that Sonic characters would've boosted since 2010 due to Colors and Generations, both highly well-received games that Sonic had been lacking for so long. (Of course, poor Knuckles wasn't in either of those games, so he might not feel the same boost that Sonic, Tails, and Robotnik will. Shadow probably won't feel the boost either, since he's not in Colors at all and only shows up for a boss battle in Generations)


It's not really going to work like that since Knuckles is already a known quantity. Good games approve sentiment from people towards the series, maybe attract a few outsiders to play the older games in the series. I wouldn't expect an uneven sort of boost.
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#283 | Zylothewolf | Posted 7/24/2013 9:35:04 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
What is this Eggman think?Isn't he called Dr Robotnik?Is that his surname?


His name has always been Eggman in Japan. Eggman is now his nickname and his real named is Ivo Robotnik.
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#284 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/24/2013 9:35:10 AM | message detail
What?
Marth was in both Brawl and Melee
So he got more power from where it matters
Note-


Both get most of their strength from Smash, but Marth has nothing outside of that. Some people actually like Ike and his games. Can't really say the same for Marth!
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#285 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:35:35 AM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Alucard – 36.32% vs. Captain Falcon – 35.95% - Round 1 – 0.37%
2. Tharja – 36.21% vs. Tiny Tina – 35.35% - Round 1 – 0.86%
3. Captain Viridian – 13.51% vs. Peacock – 11.60% - Round 1 – 1.91%
4. Hero – 25.76% vs. Rinoa Heartilly – 23.26% - Round 1 – 2.50%
5. Isaac – 15.36% vs. Tingle – 11.97% - Round 1 – 3.39%
6. Miles Edgeworth – 28.18% vs. Agent 47 – 23.63% - Round 1 – 4.55%
7. Chrom – 29.78% vs. Heavy – 24.61% - Round 1 – 5.17%
8. Crash Bandicoot – 42.59% vs. Wheatley – 36.76% - Round 1 – 5.83%
9. Cole – 23.82% vs. Ragna the Bloodedge – 17.46% - Round 1 – 6.36%
10. Midna – 24.55% vs. Little Mac – 18.08% - Round 1 – 6.47%

Top 10 Smallest Night Vote Gaps
1. Alucard – 10242 vs. Captain Falcon – 10139 – Round 1 – 103
2. Tharja – 11016 vs. Tiny Tina – 10753 – Round 1 – 263
3. Captain Viridian – 3128 vs. Peacock – 2685 – Round 1 – 443
4. Isaac – 4443 vs. Tingle – 3463 – Round 1 – 980
5. Crash Bandicoot – 11242 vs. Wheatley – 9702 – Round 1 – 1540
6. Cole – 5783 vs. Ragna the Bloodedge – 4240 – Round 1 – 1543
7. Midna – 6922 vs. Little Mac – 5098 – Round 1 – 1824
8. Poison – 8157 vs. Thrall – 6277 – Round 1 – 1880
9. Elizabeth – 10217 vs. Poison – 8157 – Round 1 – 2060
10. Tiny Tina – 10753 vs. Juliet Starling – 8651 – Round 1 – 2102

Top 5 Least Popular Night Polls
1. Big Boss vs. Captain Viridian vs. Peacock – Round 1 – 23150
2. Dracula vs. Lucina vs. Caim – Round 1 – 23719
3. GlaDOS vs. Cole vs. Ragna the Bloodedge – Round 1 – 24282
4. Elizabeth vs. Poison vs. Thrall – Round 1 – 24651
5. Spyro the Dragon vs. Clementine vs. Reyn – Round 1 – 25235

Top 10 Highest Night Individual Votes
1. Mewtwo – Round 1 – 21525
2. Link – Round 1 – 21024
3. Yoshi – Round 1 – 18775
4. Mega Man X – Round 1 – 18171
5. Big Boss – Round 1 – 17337
6. Sephiroth – Round 1 – 16179
7. Draven – Round 1 – 16081
8. Spyro the Dragon – Round 1 – 14341
9. GlaDOS – Round 1 – 14259
10. Dracula – Round 1 – 13906

Top 10 Lowest Night Individual Votes
1. Chester – Round 1 – 924
2. Caim – Round 1 – 1586
3. Peacock – Round 1 – 2685
4. Welkin Gunther – Round 1 – 2999
5. Frank West – Round 1 – 3015
6. Captain Viridian – Round 1 – 3128
7. Reyn – Round 1 – 3332
8. Tingle – Round 1 – 3463
9. Zero – Round 1 – 3866
10. Ragna the Bloodedge – Round 1 – 4240

Top 10 Most Predictable Matches
1. Link vs. Isaac vs. Tingle – Round 1 – 97.59%
2. Solid Snake vs. Isaac vs. Commander Keen – 94.07%
3. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Fei Fong Wong vs. Dan Hibiki – Round 1 – 93.84%
4. Big Boss vs. Captain Viridian vs. Peacock – Round 1 – 92.57%
5. Sephiroth vs. Midna vs. Little Mac – Round 1 – 91.37%
6. Luigi vs. Balthier Bunansa vs. Jade – Round 1 – 89.13%
7. Mewtwo vs. Zero vs. Chester – Round 1 – 89.06%
8. Mega Man X vs. Jigglypuff vs. Welkin Gunther – Round 1 – 84.25%
9. Yoshi vs. Solaire of Astora vs. Demi-Fiend – Round 1 – 83.77%
10. GlaDOS vs. Cole vs. Ragna the Bloodedge – Round 1 – 83.36%
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#286 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 7/24/2013 9:35:55 AM | message detail
WE LIKE IKE!
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#287 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2013 9:35:58 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Hahahahahaha Ike is terrible (don't give me that Protoman boost nonsense either, look at ROBOTNIK)


We haven't seen Robotnik in 7 years. There's a number of cases of old, nostalgic characters like him getting stronger with time as GameFAQs gets older and more crotchety. Sonic Team has also looked in 2010 and Sonic killed his first match. I always thought it was weird that people were writing off Robotnik here, I didn't pick or expect him to win but I seriously doubted he would get blown out.


it's Dr. Robotnik

HE WAS WEAKER THAN SIN

(THANKFULLY NOT WEAKER THAN A PICTURE OF A FIN)

Ike is terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible
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#288 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:37:22 AM | message detail
that was like a thousand years ago
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#289 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:37:36 AM | message detail
Path of Radiance looked legit in GOTD. Not strong by any means but capable of contributing strength to a popular character.
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#290 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/24/2013 9:37:55 AM | message detail
I don't really care what Robotnik was weaker than in a contest that was...8 years ago, jesus. It's a good base to look at him from, but I definitely expected him to be stronger than he was that year. GameFAQs' mindset about certain things has changed.
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#291 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/24/2013 9:38:07 AM | message detail
I can't see Marth being stronger than Ike. Marth is literally nothing but Smash.
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#292 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/24/2013 9:38:08 AM | message detail
As much as it pains me to do so, I find myself reluctantly agreeing with Karma Hunter here.
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#293 | LOLContests | Posted 7/24/2013 9:39:09 AM | message detail
And in all fairness I think people might be selling Sin a bit short as well.
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#294 | TsunamiXXVIII (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/24/2013 9:39:09 AM | message detail
Okay, so we've had seven updates since the freeze...

Update #1: Ike = Protoman > Robotnik
Update #2: Protoman > Ike > Robotnik
Update #3: Ike > Protoman > Robotnik
Update #4: Ike >>> Robotnik > Protoman
Update #5: Protoman > Ike > Robotnik (Ike literally only beat Robotnik by 1 vote on this update)
Update #6: Protoman > Ike > Robotnik
Update #7: Ike > Protoman (again by only one vote) > Robotnik

Okay, so Robotnik's been in third place in all but one update...but even so, he's less than 100 votes out of second place.
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#295 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2013 9:40:06 AM | message detail
Robotnik almost 60/40 Master Hand, maybe Sin actually has strength. You can believe Ike is a bit weaker, but Proto Man is legit
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#296 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/24/2013 9:40:14 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I don't really care what Robotnik was weaker than in a contest that was...8 years ago, jesus. It's a good base to look at him from, but I definitely expected him to be stronger than he was that year. GameFAQs' mindset about certain things has changed.


so you look at Protoman then

no matter how you look at it it's weak, weak, weak, he almost lost to Zidane too

in a match that completely favors him on every level

at some point you're either arguing that everyone that Ike's ever faced has boosted or maybe he's just weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaak
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#297 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 7/24/2013 9:40:25 AM | message detail
I don't get the trends for this match honestly, seem all over the place.
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#298 | ZFS | Posted 7/24/2013 9:40:44 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I don't really care what Robotnik was weaker than in a contest that was...8 years ago, jesus. It's a good base to look at him from, but I definitely expected him to be stronger than he was that year. GameFAQs' mindset about certain things has changed.


Yep. This is probably true. What was true then isn't true now.
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#299 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/24/2013 9:40:55 AM | message detail
It just seems really weird to me that we're apparently valuing an 8-year old contest over Proto Man's result we saw in 2010 that doesn't have much reason to change. That's what I look at this poll based off of; I don't really care where Eggman lands, one way or another.
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#300 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/24/2013 9:41:40 AM | message detail
Uh, Proto Man and Zidane aren't weak. Just what were you expecting from all these guys?
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