Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1075

#101 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/23/2013 9:55:34 PM | message detail
Not sure if Bacon's taste is horrible, amazing, or both. Some of that list makes me feel so conflicted, dang.
#102 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/23/2013 9:55:38 PM | message detail
That's a weird list.
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#103 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/23/2013 9:56:06 PM | message detail
I somehow managed to convince myself that Ragna could beat Cole, so I'm hoping he pulls a miracle here somehow. Maybe he can do something now that the Cole Power Hour is ending.
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#104 | Lopen | Posted 7/23/2013 9:59:40 PM | message detail
It's weird how Ragna is obliterating GLaDOS's percentage directly. Like Cole is staying steady but Ragna's stolen 0.8% from GLaDOS over the last few updates.
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#105 | foxhead84 | Posted 7/23/2013 10:06:03 PM | message detail
Speaking of SB... Is the Waluigi bet for the normal bracket or the expert challenge (or both)
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#106 | Ngamer64 | Posted 7/23/2013 10:25:39 PM | message detail
My non-traditional Noble Nine, JUST FOR THE RECORD

Batman
The Star Wars Guys (in order: Vader, Yoda, Han Solo, Obi-Wan/Luke/Boba Fett/Lando/R2-D2/100 others)
The Tolkien Guys (in order: Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Bilbo, rest of the Hobbits)
Spiderman
Wolverine
Homer Simpson
James Bond
Iron Man
Superman

But around the same level of Supes/Iron Man would be the Leonardos and Simbas and Aladdins and Cartmans and Buzz Lightyears of the world. The Joker and some other X-Men and Indiana Jones would be in the mix as well.


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#107 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/23/2013 10:26:28 PM | message detail
NG do you think Link could tangle with those guys
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#108 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/23/2013 10:28:42 PM | message detail
does Superman really beat Goku
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#109 | Azp2k32 | Posted 7/23/2013 10:34:30 PM | message detail
Aghhhhh, I thought I had Wander in 3rd and N in 2nd but it was the other way around. >_<

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#110 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/23/2013 10:39:26 PM | message detail
Optimus Prime > Superman
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#111 | ShatteredElysium | Posted 7/23/2013 10:48:50 PM | message detail | (edited)
creativename posted...
From looking at the Oracle topic, most had Glados high 50's, Cole mid to high 20's and Ragna in the 15+ish range.

So Glados and Ragna are both taking a couple points from Cole, relative to Oracle expectations (at least currently - who knows what direction the night vote shifts things).

This will probably be among the higher average scores for an Oracle match so far, as most seemed to have nailed it pretty good.


Oracle Consensus (not quite up to date but can't see it shifting much, if anything slightly upwards for Ragna and down for Cole)

GlaDOS 55.65
Cole 27.94
Ragna 16.19


Also can't believe people are calling BlazBlue a bad game and the characters bad. I would kill for less!


Double also, I would so antivote Luke Skywalker. Being called Luke, that **** gets old. Even now people still do the quotes at me on a regular basis.
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#112 | LordOfDabu | Posted 7/23/2013 10:56:45 PM | message detail
I'd want to see a fictional contest so we can watch them bomb and everyone agrees thereafter to stick to what the site is supposed to be about.
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#113 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/23/2013 10:59:31 PM | message detail
I would want to fill an all origins contest with just really dumb movie tie-in game characters... Like figure out how many versions of the same actor we could get into one contest so it's hush Jeff Bridges vs Jeff Bridges or something in every match.
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#114 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/23/2013 11:18:28 PM | message detail
How would Jason Brody do in this contest?
Worse than Cole?
#115 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/23/2013 11:21:04 PM | message detail
what the hell is a jason brody
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#116 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/23/2013 11:22:36 PM | message detail
Ngamer64 posted...
My non-traditional Noble Nine, JUST FOR THE RECORD

Batman
The Star Wars Guys (in order: Vader, Yoda, Han Solo, Obi-Wan/Luke/Boba Fett/Lando/R2-D2/100 others)
The Tolkien Guys (in order: Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Bilbo, rest of the Hobbits)
Spiderman
Wolverine
Homer Simpson
James Bond
Iron Man
Superman

But around the same level of Supes/Iron Man would be the Leonardos and Simbas and Aladdins and Cartmans and Buzz Lightyears of the world. The Joker and some other X-Men and Indiana Jones would be in the mix as well.



I would take Joker over half your N9. He'd most likely be the Sephiroth to Batman's Cloud.
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#117 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/23/2013 11:30:07 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
what the hell is a jason brody


Main character of Far Cry 3 that you don't even know how he looks aside from flashback or something
#118 | LOLContests | Posted 7/23/2013 11:33:24 PM | message detail
I've always had doubts about the DBZ guys threatening the upper tiers in a contest like this. Maybe I'm just biased cause I never watched DBZ myself, but it's not nearly as universal as a lot of other series. Everyone I know has seen Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and has some experience with the major superheroes. On the other hand, there's plenty of people that never watched DBZ.
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#119 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 7/23/2013 11:34:16 PM | message detail
Brody would be uber-fodder. I played through Far Cry 3 and you're right, I couldn't even identify how he looks like.
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#120 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/23/2013 11:38:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
I'm surprised at the reaction to Cole's performance. Just look at him! There's no appeal to his design whatsoever. He's just a typical western-designed character - ugly, plain features, boring clothes - and looks like an everyman. This guy makes me long for Nathan Hale.
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#121 | TsunamiXXVIII (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/23/2013 11:37:25 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
As a warning the Star Wars movies did not age well visually, more than the usual old movies.

Of course that's only a problem if you watch movies for special effects and whatnot.


Duly noted. I've watched old Star Treks, so I should be used to it by now.

MegatokyoEd posted...
Oh man.

Two Ragna stalls in a row.

Do it Cole. Go all the way in outright suck and lose to RAGNA.


This is seriously happening.

Cole is pretty damn close to the percentage I predicted...but Ragna's TEN PERCENT HIGHER.
Honest to god, if you took 10% from my GLaDOS prediction and moved it to Ragna, the result would be a 49.73. This is just...
That weird moment where your expert challenge is doing just fine, your percentage on the second place finisher is highly respectable, and your Oracle still sucks because you massively underestimated the character that's still finishing last.
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#122 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/23/2013 11:53:02 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Yeah. I've seen the first two movies of the prequel trilogy, and if that's the "inferior product", I can only imagine the original trilogy is amazing.

...Well, okay, the first movie of the prequel trilogy wasn't that great. But Episode II was pretty good.


Oh wow my opinions on the first two prequels are exactly the opposite. Still, to each his own, and it's not like they are movies I like to talk about.
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#123 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/24/2013 12:10:18 AM | message detail
Also, Tsunami, over that post in the other topic, I thought the PS1 was more mainstream than the N64 and GameCube and Final Fantasy VII was the game that made the PS1 big, hence why I said that FFVII was more mainstream than Nintendo. Now it is no longer more mainstream, obviously.
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#124 | Ngamer64 | Posted 7/24/2013 12:16:10 AM | message detail
I'm still taking Link over Batman, but I think it'd be a heck of a match.

The cool thing about getting non-traditional characters in, though, is that I think our regular guys take a huge dropoff after Link/Cloud/Mario/Snake/Samus/Seph, to the point where anything's possible elsewhere in the bracket.

Like would you really feel confident picking Crono/Pikachu/Bowser/Luigi/Vincent/Tifa over Leonardo? Really?

After further thought here's my revised Noble Nine Plus, because I do agree that I overrated Superman and underrated Joker in the last one.

The New Noble Nine+
Batman
Vader, Yoda, Han Solo, Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Luke, Lando, R2-D2, 100 others
Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Bilbo, rest of the Hobbits
Spiderman
Wolverine
Homer Simpson
James Bond
Leonardo/Donatello/Michelangelo/Raphael/Splinter/Shredder
Joker
Iron Man
Bart Simpson
Superman
Goku
Aladdin
Mufasa/Simba/Scar
Magneto/Professor X/Gambit
Dumbledore/Hermione/Harry/Ron/Snape
Buzz Lightyear/Woody
Indiana Jones
Captain Jack Sparrow
Hulk/Captain America/Thor/Deadpool/Doctor Doom/Juggernaut/Cyclops/Jean Grey/Sabretooth/Punisher/Venom/Green Goblin/Thing/Storm/Blade
Cartman/Stan/Kyle/Kenny/Butters/Randy
Optimus Prime/Megatron
Sherlock Holmes
Wonder Woman/Catwoman/Harley Quinn/Lex Luthor/Bane/Flash/Green Arrow/Green Lantern/Doomsday/Darkseid/Lobo


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#125 | izNotPerfect | Posted 7/24/2013 1:15:57 AM | message detail
fyi Ike > Robotnik > Proto Man
and Epona > Niko > Mordin
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#126 | Lopen | Posted 7/24/2013 1:17:55 AM | message detail
Man I wonder if GLaDOS actually loses some updates in the dead hours. She barely drew 45% that last update.
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#127 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/24/2013 1:18:17 AM | message detail
Why would doctor irreleveant will beat Protoman
#128 | izNotPerfect | Posted 7/24/2013 1:22:59 AM | message detail
I think Proto Man and Robotnik will be close, but Sonic fanboys.
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#129 | Lopen | Posted 7/24/2013 1:24:29 AM | message detail
Nah Protoman actually has a fanbase whereas Robotnik is just that Sonic villain.

He's going to crush Robotnik. This is his first match where he's not against SFF or freakin Snake so I expect him to do really well.
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#130 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 7/24/2013 2:20:23 AM | message detail
Protoman is the one that can wreck brackets in that match. Robotnik is taking last, I guarantee it.
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#131 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/24/2013 2:40:24 AM | message detail
Robotnik needed perhaps the most ridiculous picture in a non-sprite round of all time to beat Sin, and he did worse against Ganondorf than Ansem did.

You know, the Ansem who was losing to CATS for several hours.
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#132 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 7/24/2013 2:50:48 AM | message detail
Assuming a constant Snake, Protoman's worth 61% against Isaac. That's better than 62% against Prinny.

Of course, it's egregious to extrapolate in such manner, for all we know, this could be a weaker Isaac or a stronger Snake this year, the latter is a lot more possible.
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#133 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/24/2013 2:51:38 AM | message detail
You're also assuming a constant Protoman, which could be a mistake!
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#134 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 7/24/2013 3:01:38 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Robotnik needed perhaps the most ridiculous picture in a non-sprite round of all time to beat Sin, and he did worse against Ganondorf than Ansem did.

You know, the Ansem who was losing to CATS for several hours.


As bad as Sin's picture was, it still wasn't the worst picture of that round.

That honor goes to Calendar Virgil vs. Imodium Ghaleon.
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#135 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/24/2013 3:07:02 AM | message detail
As a whole picture, that may have been worse.

But Fin Sin probably cost it that match, and it still almost won anyway.
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#136 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/24/2013 3:15:24 AM | message detail
Trend chart from the day match:

Time | Bayonetta | N | Wander | Votes
0:05 | 47.45% | 34.01% | 18.55% | 744
1:00 | 48.51% | 30.62% | 20.87% | 4931
2:00 | 50.77% | 28.67% | 20.55% | 3620
3:00 | 49.92% | 28.00% | 22.08% | 3179
4:00 | 49.34% | 29.43% | 21.23% | 2817
5:00 | 50.48% | 28.10% | 21.41% | 2601
6:00 | 49.90% | 27.74% | 22.36% | 2549
7:00 | 49.71% | 28.46% | 21.83% | 2263
8:00 | 50.36% | 29.02% | 20.61% | 2057
9:00 | 48.38% | 27.77% | 23.84% | 1883
10:00 | 48.68% | 29.13% | 22.20% | 1775
11:00 | 48.39% | 28.18% | 23.42% | 1682
12:00 | 48.74% | 28.00% | 23.27% | 1543

Bayonetta manages a few 50% hours but drops off a bit at night. N shows typical Nintendo trends with the fast start, but he stays pretty consistent after that. Wander does a little better at night.

X-Stats:

Bayonetta – 50.00%
N – 36.77%
Wander – 30.51%

Bayonetta's prediction percentage was 61.00%
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#137 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/24/2013 3:21:29 AM | message detail
Can someone please use N stats with Wander to see if he was weaker than Lucario
#138 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/24/2013 3:22:56 AM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Robotnik needed perhaps the most ridiculous picture in a non-sprite round of all time to beat Sin, and he did worse against Ganondorf than Ansem did.

You know, the Ansem who was losing to CATS for several hours.


As bad as Sin's picture was, it still wasn't the worst picture of that round.

That honor goes to Calendar Virgil vs. Imodium Ghaleon.


What's so bad about that one? It looks kinda plain but not so terrible?

(Also why the hell is Vergil 'calendar' Vergil there)
#139 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/24/2013 3:24:08 AM | message detail
It's literally a fin.

Sin has a completely awesome monster design, and the match pic was a fin.

Also, the match pic of Vergil has a small calendar in the lower corner of the pic.
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#140 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/24/2013 3:27:10 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
It's literally a fin.

Sin has a completely awesome monster design, and the match pic was a fin.

Also, the match pic of Vergil has a small calendar in the lower corner of the pic.


...Holy crap it does. Yeah, that does cement it as the worst pic ever while Sin is a huge contender for worst individual pic. Goddamn Ceej, you lazed out hard.
#141 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/24/2013 3:29:06 AM | message detail
A lot of Ceej's match pics were sloppy, honestly, especially the first couple years. There's probably a reason most of his match pics were up against a white background.
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#142 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 7/24/2013 3:30:28 AM | message detail
He took this picture from a promotional desktop wallpaper and didn't brush it out.

http://www.gamersbin.com/attachments/f137/10400d1312545283-vergil-devil-may-cry-3-dantes-awakening-wallpaper-vergil-wallpaper-vergil.jpg
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#143 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/24/2013 4:42:08 AM | message detail
I'm on of those 3 more tied at 140 for the expert leaderboard. Got this match perfect. Hopefully that puts me on it at noon.
#144 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/24/2013 4:45:56 AM | message detail
I'm predicting overall Mega Man boost, so I think Proto Man will impress.
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#145 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/24/2013 4:49:32 AM | message detail
Im kinda surprised how bad people are doing in the expert bracket
So much people between 0 and 50 points...but it can be due to stopping picking after a few rounds too
#146 | hawk533 | Posted 7/24/2013 6:29:03 AM | message detail
I considered dropping out of the Expert challenge after the first round where I only gained points in 4 of the 9 matches. Then I realized how much more fun it would be watching this contest if I was doing the Expert challenge.

I kind of wish I had banked in some matches, but I think I've gained from risking it as much as I would have gained from banking in matches I wasn't sure about.
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#147 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/24/2013 6:55:12 AM | message detail
Pretty much the same for me. I figured my awful first division would put me out of the running but I only stayed in it for the fun.

Wouldn't be surprised if there were a ton of people that dropped out
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#148 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/24/2013 7:01:40 AM | message detail
Match XXXII: (5) Ike vs. (14) Proto Man vs. (23) Dr. Ivo Robotnik

Previous Contest

Ike – 2010
62.49% against Prinny
51.55% against Zidane Tribal
25.90% against Mario

Proto Man – 2010
27.65% against Solid Snake

Dr. Ivo Robotnik – Villains
51.32% against Sin
59.50% against Master Hand
23.36% against Ganondorf

Analysis

We have a Nintendo character and two pseudo-Nintendo characters here, but whether or not there will be SFF is questionable. Despite looking pretty bad against Prinny (maybe he has strength for some reason) Ike should have no problem winning this match. He was able to avoid getting tripled by Mario while Robotnik got tripled by Ganondorf and Proto Man did not perform too much better on a more neutral character. I feel people underestimate Ike on this board; his 2008 performance was quite impressive while Zidane probably received a Dissidia boost.

The fight for second could be interesting. The board seems content on placing Robotnik in last, but besides his performance against Ganondorf he did not look half bad in the villains contest. Besides he is the main villain of one of the most known series in gaming. Sure he is no Bowser, but he will not be a complete weakling.

Still Proto Man has shown that he is no slouch either. His performance against Snake is decent and it would have taken quite the SFF beat down by Ganondorf for Robotnik to come into contention. Even if it was true with Ike in the poll Robotnik could just as likely fold against the SFF hammer again.

If Ike is able to SFF these two characters we could see him reach for some ridiculous percentages. I do not think Ike will SFF these characters, but the possibility is there. Regardless he will need to look as good as possible for him to show that he can take on GlaDOS even with the potential of Epona showing up.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Ike > Proto Man and Dr. Ivo Robotnik

charmander6000’s Prediction: Ike – 44.74%, Proto Man – 29.46%, Dr. Ivo Robotnik – 25.80%
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#149 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 7/24/2013 7:06:27 AM | message detail
So is it safe to say that Robotnik is the weakest of the Noble Nine main villains? Ganondorf and Bowser are obviously a lot stronger, Sephroth/Cloud are obviously way stronger, whoever you classify as the MGS main villain (I've never played MGS4) would dominate Robotnik. Ridley and Wiley would probably be close but would still win. The only one I could see Robotnik beating would be Lavos.
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#150 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/24/2013 7:08:04 AM | message detail
I have a bad feeling about Proto Man here... I think Robotnik is being totally underestimated and could beat him.
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