Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1074

#351 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2013 12:29:41 PM | message detail
Denzokuken posted...
I can't believe people think a Mass Effect character is going to beat a character from Ocarina of Time.

Guys.


Mordin's going to lose, but I'd take Shepard over Epona with trivial ease.

It's the Peach factor - no one cares.
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#352 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/23/2013 12:31:35 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
Seriously, we need to start giving Link some heat for his recent performances. This guy let Thrall do decently on him. He wrecked the SFF matches but that's just what they are - SFF.


He seems to be the only one getting anti-voted like the FFVII crew (though not as badly), but it's all in meaningless matches. Mario, Samus, Sonic and Mega Man - all of these guys would get SFF'd by him. Snake could do well, but man, he really lucked out by avoiding Link until he grew dominant enough to be anti-voted. Snake never got the doubling (or worse) that all the other non-Cloud/Seph guys got.
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#353 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/23/2013 12:32:23 PM | message detail
Alucard with almost 50% prediction?The plan worked.
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#354 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/23/2013 12:34:49 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think of Epona as that character you vote for if you don't care for the other characters, but Epona would flop under actual competition. A lot like Tetris back in the day perhaps.

Anybody not familiar with ME2 will likely just vote Epona out of love for OoT.
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#355 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/23/2013 12:35:56 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
ALUCARD FEARS NOT THE NIGHT, as his two best hours were the last two of the match.


Wait, I see a 39.39% hour for Alucard earlier in this match. The last 2 hours of the match would be his second and third best hours overa ll.
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#356 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/23/2013 12:42:41 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
he really lucked out by avoiding Link until he grew dominant enough to be anti-voted.


Got him in 2008!

Although I suppose you mean before he got Brawl and MGS4 in 2006, in which case, yeah. Still one of those rare characters who's never been pushed below 40% in a 1-on-1!
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#357 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/23/2013 12:43:27 PM | message detail
Sorry, I got a little excited in my trend chart.

Regardless, the point still sort of stands, because Alucard's three best hours were in the last four hours of the match...!
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#358 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/23/2013 12:54:47 PM | message detail
GlaDOS > Cole > Ragna
Ike > Protoman > Robotnik
Epona > Mordin > Nike
Altair > Ratchet > Shulk
Lara > Slime > Yuri
Zak > Ryu > Kefka

Wow this division is hard
First places are all easy aside from Protoman-Ike but Ike is favorable to win
Second places...Xenoblade characters sucked hard this contest so i'm not sure about Shulk
I have no idea what Shadow Hearts is and never heard of it but Hero done well..kinda (maybe mostly joke votes but who knows)
Ryu would lose to Kefka but thanks to Zack SFF he will probably get second place
#359 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:01:54 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
GlaDOS > Cole > Ragna
Ike > Protoman > Robotnik
Epona > Mordin > Nike
Altair > Ratchet > Shulk
Lara > Slime > Yuri
Zak > Ryu > Kefka

Wow this division is hard
First places are all easy aside from Protoman-Ike but Ike is favorable to win
Second places...Xenoblade characters sucked hard this contest so i'm not sure about Shulk
I have no idea what Shadow Hearts is and never heard of it but Hero done well..kinda (maybe mostly joke votes but who knows)
Ryu would lose to Kefka but thanks to Zack SFF he will probably get second place


Perhaps I'm underestimating FF7's strength and overestimating FF6, but is Zack beating Kefka really that much of a sure thing? Kefka is debated as being the best villain in FF games along with Seph and Kuja. Zack was a minor character in FF7 who was the protagonist of a spinoff.

I have Kefka winning 2 rounds, which is probably really dumb, but to me he's just so much more iconic and immediately recognizable than Zack Fair..
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#360 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:03:32 PM | message detail
Zack is black-haired Cloud. You wouldn't feel confident with dark-skinned Link even if you account for RacistFAQs?
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#361 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/23/2013 1:04:35 PM | message detail
the best villain in FF games along with... Kuja
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#362 | LionInAComa | Posted 7/23/2013 1:05:23 PM | message detail
raginbull911 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
GlaDOS > Cole > Ragna
Ike > Protoman > Robotnik
Epona > Mordin > Nike
Altair > Ratchet > Shulk
Lara > Slime > Yuri
Zak > Ryu > Kefka

Wow this division is hard
First places are all easy aside from Protoman-Ike but Ike is favorable to win
Second places...Xenoblade characters sucked hard this contest so i'm not sure about Shulk
I have no idea what Shadow Hearts is and never heard of it but Hero done well..kinda (maybe mostly joke votes but who knows)
Ryu would lose to Kefka but thanks to Zack SFF he will probably get second place


Perhaps I'm underestimating FF7's strength and overestimating FF6, but is Zack beating Kefka really that much of a sure thing? Kefka is debated as being the best villain in FF games along with Seph and Kuja. Zack was a minor character in FF7 who was the protagonist of a spinoff.

I have Kefka winning 2 rounds, which is probably really dumb, but to me he's just so much more iconic and immediately recognizable than Zack Fair..


Kuja lost to Master Hand, so saying Kefka is anywhere near him isn't a big compliment. >_> Kefka is pretty weak (unfortunately). Zack impressed a lot in that one contest (uhh 2009 or something?) and proved to be far stronger than Kefka. Probably because he's in FF7 (even as a minor character) and is pretty much black-haired Cloud.
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#363 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:05:30 PM | message detail
Denzokuken posted...
the best villain in FF games along with... Kuja


If I'm reading this right, I agree 100%. Sephiroth might be the most overrated character in video gaming.
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#364 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/23/2013 1:05:47 PM | message detail
Dark Link is the ultimate test of RacistFAQs.
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#365 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/23/2013 1:09:14 PM | message detail
*Wakes up*

*Checks last match's results*

I knew it. I said it early and I never stopped thinking about it...last night was The Night. Time to go listen to the Symphony of Tonight to celebrate now!

http://www.gordonmcneil.com/VGCWsymphonyoftonight_extended.mp3

Seriously, can't believe Alucard did it. Monstering with the morning vote? Unbelievable! He really bucked all the trends to secure the win for those who believed in him! That's my guy!

Now on a different note...

...We're talking Epona/Mordin again? Really guys? I just don't see it. I don't. Look, I get we always make jokes about how Tifa's Orthopedic Underwear can win matches, and how a leech like Zelda has strength, but this is a horse. It's a ****ing horse. I think it was KP who said it once and I agree, our voters might look dumb but they're way smarter than they appear. I'm as big a Nintendrone as they come, I always vote for Mario no matter who he's up against, I would prefer it if Link squashed Snake/Cloud in the finals as usual and then was retired unbeaten...but I'm not voting for Epona. Because IT'S A HORSE. Let's get real now!
#366 | SliceSabre | Posted 7/23/2013 1:11:50 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
*Wakes up*

*Checks last match's results*

I knew it. I said it early and I never stopped thinking about it...last night was The Night. Time to go listen to the Symphony of Tonight to celebrate now!

http://www.gordonmcneil.com/VGCWsymphonyoftonight_extended.mp3

Seriously, can't believe Alucard did it. Monstering with the morning vote? Unbelievable! He really bucked all the trends to secure the win for those who believed in him! That's my guy!

Now on a different note...

...We're talking Epona/Mordin again? Really guys? I just don't see it. I don't. Look, I get we always make jokes about how Tifa's Orthopedic Underwear can win matches, and how a leech like Zelda has strength, but this is a horse. It's a ****ing horse. I think it was KP who said it once and I agree, our voters might look dumb but they're way smarter than they appear. I'm as big a Nintendrone as they come, I always vote for Mario no matter who he's up against, I would prefer it if Link squashed Snake/Cloud in the finals as usual and then was retired unbeaten...but I'm not voting for Epona. Because IT'S A HORSE. Let's get real now!


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#367 | GANON1025 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:14:19 PM | message detail
Don't listen to SOTN, listen to this: http://megaranmusic.com/track/aria-of-the-bloodline
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#368 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 7/23/2013 1:14:20 PM | message detail
From: KanzarisKelshen | #365
but I'm not voting for Epona. Because IT'S A HORSE. Let's get real now!

How is voting for a horse any different than a dragon beating 2 humans, or the robot that's projected to stomp 1st place tomorrow?
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#369 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2013 1:16:00 PM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
From: KanzarisKelshen | #365
but I'm not voting for Epona. Because IT'S A HORSE. Let's get real now!

How is voting for a horse any different than a dragon beating 2 humans, or the robot that's projected to stomp 1st place tomorrow?


Epona's going to win, but are you seriously comparing that useless horse to GlaDOS what in the world is wrong with your brain
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#370 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:16:28 PM | message detail
She's not a horse. She's THE horse. And she talks in Twilight Princess. Clearly she's much more of a character than Charizard.
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#371 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 7/23/2013 1:16:39 PM | message detail
He said nothing about it being useless. His sole reason for voting against it is because it's a horse.
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#372 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/23/2013 1:17:04 PM | message detail
horse racist
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#373 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/23/2013 1:17:08 PM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
From: KanzarisKelshen | #365
but I'm not voting for Epona. Because IT'S A HORSE. Let's get real now!

How is voting for a horse any different than a dragon beating 2 humans, or the robot that's projected to stomp 1st place tomorrow?


Because one of those is a protagonist and the other one is the central focus of two games. And the third one is a horse. Not even a protagonist horse either, just a horse with one scene per game, two tops. It's like the big brother version of 'Midgar Zolom would kill the polls guys, just you watch!'.
#374 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:18:11 PM | message detail
Zack and Kefka got about the same against Mega Man and Bowser respectively, sure Zack had a night match and Kefka had a day, but I don't think it will make up the difference between Mega Man and Bowser.
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#375 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2013 1:18:11 PM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
He said nothing about it being useless. His sole reason for voting against it is because it's a horse.


Is this kind of density even possible in the Year of our contest winner Snake 2013
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#376 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2013 1:18:35 PM | message detail
To be fair, for a horse, Epona has a pretty cool side story related to her in OoT. You riding Epona out of Lon Lon Ranch as an adult was great.

I mean, it's still a horse, but I think OoT people will legitimately like Epona to a certain degree.
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#377 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/23/2013 1:19:54 PM | message detail
I have a feeling that Zack will have dropped from the previous contest. If FF7 is going down the tubes, then Zack is probably going to be the first to falter. He's not exactly the most important or memorable character from it.
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#378 | ZFS | Posted 7/23/2013 1:20:39 PM | message detail
Epona is awesome.
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#379 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/23/2013 1:22:11 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
To be fair, for a horse, Epona has a pretty cool side story related to her in OoT. You riding Epona out of Lon Lon Ranch as an adult was great.

I mean, it's still a horse, but I think OoT people will legitimately like Epona to a certain degree.


Sure! And I acknowledge that! The Lon Lon Ranch escape was awesome and it's a fond memory for me!

But Epona is still a horse. There's being a leech, there's being an enormous leech (hi Ness), and then there's being a horse who's supposed to have strength just for being in strong games. Basically the argument I'm making is, if you apply this type of logic to say Epona is strong, you have to accept wholeheartedly that the Happy Mask Salesman would dominate the poll because he has every reason to be just as strong as Epona or stronger considering how he has an actually big role in at least one game. And...I don't see that. If I had to rank characters from OoT in strength it would easily be Link>Ganondorf/Zelda>Ruto/Saria/Nabooru/maybe Darunia>>>>everybody else. It just doesn't make sense to me to expect Epona to be strong. It doesn't. My arguments are not super coherent I think, and I get why you'd be skeptical about them, but seriously, my gut feeling says that trusting Epona to be good is way wrong.
#380 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/23/2013 1:22:57 PM | message detail
I kinda feel the opposite. If anyone will feel the least from FFVII anti-votes and the general drop in strength, it's probably Zack for the exact reason that he's not a relevant character in the original game.
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#381 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2013 1:24:33 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
my gut feeling says that trusting Epona to be good is way wrong.


But Epona doesn't have to be good to beat the weakest Mass Effect side character in this contest. Really, she doesn't.
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#382 | Rad_Dudesman | Posted 7/23/2013 1:26:09 PM | message detail
Epona would stomp if her match pic had Link riding her
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#383 | ZFS | Posted 7/23/2013 1:26:32 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
I kinda feel the opposite. If anyone will feel the least from FFVII anti-votes and the general drop in strength, it's probably Zack for the exact reason that he's not a relevant character in the original game.


Yeah, that's how I feel. Zack is FFVII, but he's a bit distant from it at the same time. People are probably less likely to turn on him, or not care as much. He sort of stands out compared to the others.
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#384 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/23/2013 1:26:51 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
my gut feeling says that trusting Epona to be good is way wrong.


But Epona doesn't have to be good to beat the weakest Mass Effect side character in this contest. Really, she doesn't.


I don't think Mordin is gonna be the weakest, actually. Or if he is, it'll be by a scant few bits of percentage compared to Wrex. I mean, what reason does Mordin have to be worse than Wrex when he was in a bigger game AND then more easily carried over to the end of the trilogy?
#385 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 7/23/2013 1:26:55 PM | message detail
From: KanzarisKelshen | #379
you have to accept wholeheartedly that the Happy Mask Salesman would dominate the poll because he has every reason to be just as strong as Epona or stronger considering how he has an actually big role in at least one game.

Are you implying that people wouldn't agree on this? He would obviously be stronger than Epona because he has a larger role in a better game, plus he has minor meme power behind him.
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#386 | ZFS | Posted 7/23/2013 1:27:41 PM | message detail
I'd vote Epona over the Sages. Who votes for the Sages, really, especially over your horse.
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#387 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/23/2013 1:27:53 PM | message detail
Rad_Dudesman posted...
Epona would stomp if her match pic had Link riding her


This is true though. I really hope the picsmiths don't get stupid and try for the Link Factor here. Give Epona a solo pic and let her shine or lose on her own merits. No nonsense in a debatable match, please.
#388 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:28:42 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
my gut feeling says that trusting Epona to be good is way wrong.


But Epona doesn't have to be good to beat the weakest Mass Effect side character in this contest. Really, she doesn't.


It really is a triple fodder match, so I'm inclined to go with a) the most recognizable character and b) the character from the most popular franchise. Both are Epona.

Honestly, I think people are overrating Mordin big time. I wouldn't be shocked if Niko finishes ahead of him on name recognition alone.

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#389 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2013 1:29:13 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
my gut feeling says that trusting Epona to be good is way wrong.


But Epona doesn't have to be good to beat the weakest Mass Effect side character in this contest. Really, she doesn't.


I don't think Mordin is gonna be the weakest, actually. Or if he is, it'll be by a scant few bits of percentage compared to Wrex. I mean, what reason does Mordin have to be worse than Wrex when he was in a bigger game AND then more easily carried over to the end of the trilogy?


Oh, you think Mordin is stronger than Wrex.

That lack of grasp on the ME fanbase would lead you to the conclusion you've come to!
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#390 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:29:38 PM | message detail
When you think of the Happy Mask Salesman, the first thing that comes to mind is Majora's Mask, not Ocarina of Time. Epona is literally the first character you see when you turn on OoT.
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#391 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/23/2013 1:30:02 PM | message detail
I don't think Bacon would allow a picture of Link in the match with Epona. I think he realizes that's inherently unfair.

Or I hope he does.
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#392 | LOLContests | Posted 7/23/2013 1:30:51 PM | message detail
I have Epona winning Round 1 and feel good about it, but I've been definitely veering towards the "It's just a horse!" point of view lately in regards to later rounds. I'm just getting a bad feeling about her, and it's beginning to reek of Matt the Mii all over again. I mean, a much much much much much more popular version of Matt the Mii, but same basic situation. We came up with some theory about some character being more popular than expected, and rather than admit that we could be wrong, we just put up blinders and went full steam ahead. We came up with the theory and found a character to fit it, instead of just finding a popular character organically.
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#393 | Kibago | Posted 7/23/2013 1:30:56 PM | message detail
I'm going to laugh so hard when Epona ends up with a Link pic and becomes stronger than Ganondorf and Zelda.
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#394 | CasanovaZelos | Posted 7/23/2013 1:31:20 PM | message detail
I've always been confused by Mordin's fanbase. I like him, but he was never near my favorite of the cast, and quite a few of my friends don't get it either. Garrus and Wrex seem to be the only two universally loved squadmates. Legion probably would be if he had a bigger presence. Tali would probably be third after Garrus and Wrex, and I'm surprised she didn't make it when Mordin did.
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#395 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/23/2013 1:32:01 PM | message detail
There wasn't a B8 rally for Tali. That's why she didn't make it.
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#396 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/23/2013 1:34:37 PM | message detail
Mordin has the nerddom fanbase - one that is small, dedicated, vocal. It's the same principle as Otacon's strength (and I'll so far as to say if Mordin can even give Epona a scare, Otacon > Magus is a mortal lock).
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#397 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/23/2013 1:35:27 PM | message detail
I don't think you can make a picture with Epona and Link in this format without either zooming out too far or one of those joke pictures where it is just Link with Epona's ear.
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#398 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/23/2013 1:38:45 PM | message detail
I know I'm super late to the party, but when the HELL did Alucard beat Falcon?

i must've been passed out

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#399 | LOLContests | Posted 7/23/2013 1:40:05 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
I'd vote Epona over the Sages. Who votes for the Sages, really, especially over your horse.


Other than Rauru (and Nabooru I guess) the Sages are all characters that people have reason to like prior to them becoming Sages. It's not like they only show up at the ends of the temples.

I think that Saria could be pretty decent actually, and in hindsight I'm surprised there's never been a rally behind her. She definitely should have made the Female Bracket over some of the crap that made it in.

And if she does bomb she has a perfect pic to put on the Results Page:http://tinyurl.com/lqwor59
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#400 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/23/2013 1:43:52 PM | message detail
They didn't even give Nana her other Ice Climber. I doubt Epona gets Link
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