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The only thing I don't like about Gen 1 is how ridiculously unbalanced the types are;

Psychic owns everything, and half the types are useless.

Gen 2 got it right. It got it so right, that no other generation has dared make a change on the type chart ever since. Gen 6 is going to be the first one to do it since 2000.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

A leopard never changes its spots, still a jerk 10 years later.
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raginbull911 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)

And the 'newb' comes in with biggest smackdown of all. Bravo, man.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

Dude, stop acting like the match was obvious, Falco came close to making you wrong a dozen times during the match. Heck, he managed to hold first place for most of the night.

This was the closest match in the contest until now. It wasn't predictable, and it certainly didn't go exactly how you planned.

I think BT would be more tolerable if he could learn to spell simple words like "awful" and "no one".
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So... next debatable match is what

Does Ragna have a shot at Cole?

Mordin at Niko?

Will Epona flop?
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raginbull911 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4CMvGAPSX4
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raginbull911 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZEIMQ42-oU
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Oh neato, Alucard won.

LOL N.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

Dude, stop acting like the match was obvious, Falco came close to making you wrong a dozen times during the match. Heck, he managed to hold first place for most of the night.

This was the closest match in the contest until now. It wasn't predictable, and it certainly didn't go exactly how you planned.

well it doesn't really matter now how close falco came because he lost its over

if he won he would have destroyed most of the expert challenge leaderboard

but again most people had alucard winning so its a sigh of relief for many
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If Bayonetta is doing this good with that meh depiction of her on the front page, I really like her as a solid midcarder. She's like a mini-Dante, and since like Dante she relies a lot on her strength of design using one of her more normal pics should do wonders.
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swordz9 posted...

The funniest thing is the remakes are better products and people still like the original versions more.

The originals were simple and actually original fun ideas when they came out. The remakes overcomplicated the visual design and added in extra Pokemon. 150 was the magic number, everything beyond that was pointless and really watered down the experience. That's why R/B/Y is objectively the best.

You can't objectively rate something by how many bells and whistles it has. You have to consider the innovations it made, as well as intangibles such as whether or not it became a pointless collect-a-thon after G2.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

The only thing I don't like about Gen 1 is how ridiculously unbalanced the types are;

Psychic owns everything, and half the types are useless.

Gen 2 got it right. It got it so right, that no other generation has dared make a change on the type chart ever since. Gen 6 is going to be the first one to do it since 2000.

Ah, yes. The only two types that were super-effective against Psychic were Ghost and Bug, except there were a grand total of 7 moves in those two types, two of which were non-damaging and one of which was fixed-damage. The best Bug-type move could only be learned by Beedrill, which would get completely f***ed over by Psychic-types due to being both a Poison-type and just plain weak, leaving the only real way to deal meaningful super-effective damage being...a Jolteon with Pin Missile. So no STAB bonus.

The addition of the Dark-type definitely helped, but so did making Bug- and Ghost-type moves that were actually useful and not having so many Poison-types. Did you know that Poison was actually the most common type in Gen I? 33-32 over Water. Ever since Gen II, Water's been #1 by a fairly decent margin.

Breakdown of all Poison types by debut generation:

I: 33
II: 4
III: 5
IV: 8
V: 7
VI: 1 confirmed so far

Literally still over 50% of all existing Poison-types have been around since Gen I.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

swordz9 posted...

The funniest thing is the remakes are better products and people still like the original versions more.

The originals were simple and actually original fun ideas when they came out. The remakes overcomplicated the visual design and added in extra Pokemon. 150 was the magic number, everything beyond that was pointless and really watered down the experience. That's why R/B/Y is objectively the best.

You can't objectively rate something by how many bells and whistles it has. You have to consider the innovations it made, as well as intangibles such as whether or not it became a pointless collect-a-thon after G2.

BT says it=it must be wrong
sorry guys, gen 1 is objectively inferior

I guess Fox is the favorite to win over Blue now.
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Safer_777 posted...

I guess Fox is the favorite to win over Blue now.

I wouldn't go that far.
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raginbull911 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)

If you look at the posts from last night, I started off "kind and patient", and it wasn't until the newbies tried to call me out on what I was saying that I got less patient. The proof is in the pudding, I was right (if not completely right on the timing of the trends) and they were completely off-base. I don't pretend to be some omniscient contest God, but when I'm trying to tell you something and you flat out tell me I'm wrong, I am going to push the point. How many Guru contests have you won? How close did you come to winning top prize in Game of the Decade?

Check my attitude? How about you check yours.
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Gen 1 was objectively the worst, here's why : http://i.imgur.com/nkvKxTH.png
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It is funny because he literally has no attitude in that post.
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to pop in on the Pokemon generations debate - as someone who would have B/W first and Platinum second, one thing which may actually be underrated about R/B/Y (and why it's so good to replay) is the pacing. It's perfect, Super Metroid tier. It keeps you moving along, feeding you accomplishments at a consistent rate, the 'dungeons' strike a balance between standing out from the world and still being short enough not to bog you down...and being able to do the mid-game in basically any order helps the player a lot out as well, letting them (subconsciously, for most replayers!) sort the goals ahead in the way they want. much better than "track ten minutes through the snow now using up all your Repels because we said so."

I'd love to see a Pokemon game where we can do the eight gyms (and basically everything else) in any order and the "evil team" plot adjusts itself dynamically to the route you take through the game.
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Then00bAvenger posted...

So... next debatable match is what

Does Ragna have a shot at Cole?

Mordin at Niko?

Will Epona flop?

You skipped a match, and that's the next debatable one.

Seriously, anyone got any ideas? I've currently got Ike > Eggman > Proto Man with absolutely zero confidence. If you went solely on the strength of the franchises, Sonic's got the edge over Fire Emblem and Mega Man, but last I checked Eggman wasn't terribly strong and people actually like Proto Man, though I think he's got a lower percentage of Mega's strength than Zero does of X's, which I'm pretty sure is the relevant cross-generational comparison. And Ike's got Brawl, and IIRC was designed at least in part with the franchise's new international fanbase in mind (the bigwigs took notice of the fact that the international fans seemed to prefer Hector to Eliwood and created a slightly more Hector-like MC. I could just be misremembering things, though).

Currently going with a 35-33-32 split on my Oracle. In other words, no confidence in anyone winning or losing.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

raginbull911 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)

If you look at the posts from last night, I started off "kind and patient", and it wasn't until the newbies tried to call me out on what I was saying that I got less patient. The proof is in the pudding, I was right (if not completely right on the timing of the trends) and they were completely off-base. I don't pretend to be some omniscient contest God, but when I'm trying to tell you something and you flat out tell me I'm wrong, I am going to push the point. How many Guru contests have you won? How close did you come to winning top prize in Game of the Decade?

Check my attitude? How about you check yours.

Appeal to "I almost won a contest" fallacy, man, now all we need is Ulti in here to complete the circle

Counterpoint: BT's never won a sig bet against Kay Aitch! Checkmate, liberals.

EDIT: yoblazer has but for some reason GameFAQs deleted it from my sig because they are racist against mermaids I can only speculate
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

The only thing I don't like about Gen 1 is how ridiculously unbalanced the types are;

Psychic owns everything, and half the types are useless.

Gen 2 got it right. It got it so right, that no other generation has dared make a change on the type chart ever since. Gen 6 is going to be the first one to do it since 2000.

Ah, yes. The only two types that were super-effective against Psychic were Ghost and Bug, except there were a grand total of 7 moves in those two types, two of which were non-damaging and one of which was fixed-damage. The best Bug-type move could only be learned by Beedrill, which would get completely f***ed over by Psychic-types due to being both a Poison-type and just plain weak, leaving the only real way to deal meaningful super-effective damage being...a Jolteon with Pin Missile. So no STAB bonus.

The addition of the Dark-type definitely helped, but so did making Bug- and Ghost-type moves that were actually useful and not having so many Poison-types. Did you know that Poison was actually the most common type in Gen I? 33-32 over Water. Ever since Gen II, Water's been #1 by a fairly decent margin.

Breakdown of all Poison types by debut generation:

I: 33
II: 4
III: 5
IV: 8
V: 7
VI: 1 confirmed so far

Literally still over 50% of all existing Poison-types have been around since Gen I.

Ghost was not super-effective against Psychic, it was the opposite, Ghost was weak to Psychic and Psychic was immune to Ghost, probably due to bad programming. They fixed it on gen 2.

Your best bet against a Psychic was using a Snorlax. Or other Psychics.

Gen 2 also did the special attack/defense split, which screwed up with many psychics such as Alakazam.

If you want to have a good laugh (and lose a few hours of your time), check out this faq. This guy analyses every single pokemon from gens 1 and 2, and shows how ridiculously unbalanced the first gen was. It's hilarious.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/gbc/375087-pokemon-crystal-version/faqs/20844

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

raginbull911 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)

If you look at the posts from last night, I started off "kind and patient", and it wasn't until the newbies tried to call me out on what I was saying that I got less patient. The proof is in the pudding, I was right (if not completely right on the timing of the trends) and they were completely off-base. I don't pretend to be some omniscient contest God, but when I'm trying to tell you something and you flat out tell me I'm wrong, I am going to push the point. How many Guru contests have you won? How close did you come to winning top prize in Game of the Decade?

Check my attitude? How about you check yours.

except for the part where Alucard barely broke 100, and only at the very end
whoops?

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Ghost was weak to Psychic and Psychic was immune to Ghost, probably due to bad programming. They fixed it on gen 2.

I think it just had to do with the only Ghosts available being part Poison-type.
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Then00bAvenger posted...

So... next debatable match is what

Does Ragna have a shot at Cole?

Mordin at Niko?

Will Epona flop?

You skipped a match, and that's the next debatable one.

Seriously, anyone got any ideas? I've currently got Ike > Eggman > Proto Man with absolutely zero confidence. If you went solely on the strength of the franchises, Sonic's got the edge over Fire Emblem and Mega Man, but last I checked Eggman wasn't terribly strong and people actually like Proto Man, though I think he's got a lower percentage of Mega's strength than Zero does of X's, which I'm pretty sure is the relevant cross-generational comparison. And Ike's got Brawl, and IIRC was designed at least in part with the franchise's new international fanbase in mind (the bigwigs took notice of the fact that the international fans seemed to prefer Hector to Eliwood and created a slightly more Hector-like MC. I could just be misremembering things, though).

Currently going with a 35-33-32 split on my Oracle. In other words, no confidence in anyone winning or losing.

General thought is Protoman should be a weak version of Zero and that should be good enough to toss Eggman around. Ike has Smash and that's usually good enough to take care of the borderline fodder.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

raginbull911 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years.

I haven't been on B8 in years and have actually been invigorated to post fairly frequently in the past few days by this recent contest. While I'm not as well-versed in a lot of the trends and jargon, thankfully the bulk of the regulars have been gracious hosts and willing to discuss and explain openly with less educated folk like myself.

I say this as someone who enrolled in the very first contest back in summer 2002 to someone whose account wasn't even created during said contest. Please check your attitude at the door and show some respect rather than elitism towards people who are trying to get involved in the community.

To the regulars who have been kind and patient to "newbs" like me, thanks :)

If you look at the posts from last night, I started off "kind and patient", and it wasn't until the newbies tried to call me out on what I was saying that I got less patient. The proof is in the pudding, I was right (if not completely right on the timing of the trends) and they were completely off-base. I don't pretend to be some omniscient contest God, but when I'm trying to tell you something and you flat out tell me I'm wrong, I am going to push the point. How many Guru contests have you won? How close did you come to winning top prize in Game of the Decade?

Check my attitude? How about you check yours.

You were kind and patient until someone dared to disagree with you.

Then you went and became a pretentious jerk.

Going back a bit and ignoring BT, I believe the Third Colossus would have the most contest strength, no question.
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IIRC Black Turtle hates FFIX?
Oh my god if Ridley beats Zidane it might get ugly here

Achromatic posted...

Safer_777 posted...

I guess Fox is the favorite to win over Blue now.

I wouldn't go that far.

Maybe, maybe not. From the beginning, we weren't really sure. Most of us felt like Fox could win a 1v1, but were unsure of how Wolf would affect things. N's performance today really doesn't tell us anything about that match, though, because we all agree that Gen I Pokémon is far stronger than Gen III and later and N is Gen V.

And we're not really going to get much help because the only thing we have to gauge Wolf's strength is Rivalry Rumble, which we've decided is useless in determining contest results. (Reminder for anyone who wants to try, though--Fox/Wolf's percentage on Ryu/Ken was more than 10% worse than Fox's expected 1v1 percentage on Ryu based on 2010 X-Stats, and Fox/Wolf's percentage on Yuna/Seymour was not even 2% better than Fox's expected 1v1 percentage on Yuna. So Wolf was definitely an anchor in that contest--which, of course, tells us absolutely nothing about how he'll fare here.)

Actually, it does tell us something: Wolf's direct percentage on Fox should be expected to be horrible. So, um...I don't know, I guess you almost should analyze it as though it were a 1v1 match? That seems wrong...
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Safer_777 posted...

I guess Fox is the favorite to win over Blue now.

Blue is from R/B/Y. Blue has the connection to Gary from the anime. Blue is generally just better than N who is a total lamer.

Blue might lose that since Fox is definitely stronger than he is 1 on 1, but don't go taking too much from N here.
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No matter how badly Wolf does he is going to steal votes directly from Fox. It really just depends on how fondly the voters remember Blue, I think.
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SuorGenoveffa posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Ghost was weak to Psychic and Psychic was immune to Ghost, probably due to bad programming. They fixed it on gen 2.

I think it just had to do with the only Ghosts available being part Poison-type.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ghost_%28type%29#Battle_properties

Nope. But some strategy guides from nintendo said Ghost was strong versus Psychic, so this was probably an error.

But I got one thing wrong, ghost was not weak to psychic, it was just neutral (and still is). It's psychic that was immune to ghost.

Blue should be pretty strong.

1) He's the first rival
2) He's arguably the most memorable one (since he becomes the champions and he's a dick)
3) He REALLY looks like Gary mother******* Oak
4) Gen 1
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It also depends on if Bacon decides Blue is just Red with a blue hat.

Seriously, worst match pic ever.

From: raginbull911 | #148
So is Bayonetta stronger than some people gave her credit for? Or did some people just vastly overestimate the Pokemon association with N?

Either way, this is getting ugly fast.

Personally I was expecting Bayonetta to break 50%, probably closer to 55%.
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Achromatic posted...

TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Then00bAvenger posted...

So... next debatable match is what

Does Ragna have a shot at Cole?

Mordin at Niko?

Will Epona flop?

You skipped a match, and that's the next debatable one.

Seriously, anyone got any ideas? I've currently got Ike > Eggman > Proto Man with absolutely zero confidence. If you went solely on the strength of the franchises, Sonic's got the edge over Fire Emblem and Mega Man, but last I checked Eggman wasn't terribly strong and people actually like Proto Man, though I think he's got a lower percentage of Mega's strength than Zero does of X's, which I'm pretty sure is the relevant cross-generational comparison. And Ike's got Brawl, and IIRC was designed at least in part with the franchise's new international fanbase in mind (the bigwigs took notice of the fact that the international fans seemed to prefer Hector to Eliwood and created a slightly more Hector-like MC. I could just be misremembering things, though).

Currently going with a 35-33-32 split on my Oracle. In other words, no confidence in anyone winning or losing.

General thought is Protoman should be a weak version of Zero and that should be good enough to toss Eggman around. Ike has Smash and that's usually good enough to take care of the borderline fodder.

Thinking about it, this is the first time Protoman hasn't been matched up with a Noble Niner. I think he will be a lot closer to Ike than most are expecting.
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WellThoughtName posted...

Gen 1 was objectively the worst, here's why : http://i.imgur.com/nkvKxTH.png

Some of those are lol-worthy but overall it's true, I don't believe Gen 1 was the worst but it was horribly unbalanced and broken at times XD

Here's an example of just ONE broken technique, the infamous Wrap, used by a trainer in Erika's gym. Go to 5:52 and watch the madness unfold, it's hilarious XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Y1G35-wo8&list=PL5C4F2BF49BE89CE4&index=45
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WellThoughtName posted...

Blue should be pretty strong.

1) He's the first rival
2) He's arguably the most memorable one (since he becomes the champions and he's a dick)
3) He REALLY looks like Gary mother******* Oak
4) Gen 1

The problem is he doesn't even need to be strong, Wolf will be holding Fox back so much that it doesn't really matter. Fox/Wolf is going to be more like Mega Man/Zero than Link/Ganondorf.
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SuorGenoveffa posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Ghost was weak to Psychic and Psychic was immune to Ghost, probably due to bad programming. They fixed it on gen 2.

I think it just had to do with the only Ghosts available being part Poison-type.

Yeah, I don't think Ghost itself was weak against Psychic. But, yeah, I did hear that they messed up the programming and Ghost wasn't actually super-effective against Psychic. Not that it mattered that much, since there was only one Ghost-type move that actually used normal damage calculations and it sucked.

Gen I's movepool sucked, actually. That "Dragon-type moves are super-effective against other Dragon-types" thing was allegedly present in Gen I, but you'd need to hack the game for it to actually take effect since there was literally one Dragon-type move and it was a fixed-damage move.
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Checked the first 5 pages on /vp/
No N rally spotted

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Achromatic posted...

TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Then00bAvenger posted...

So... next debatable match is what

Does Ragna have a shot at Cole?

Mordin at Niko?

Will Epona flop?

You skipped a match, and that's the next debatable one.

Seriously, anyone got any ideas? I've currently got Ike > Eggman > Proto Man with absolutely zero confidence. If you went solely on the strength of the franchises, Sonic's got the edge over Fire Emblem and Mega Man, but last I checked Eggman wasn't terribly strong and people actually like Proto Man, though I think he's got a lower percentage of Mega's strength than Zero does of X's, which I'm pretty sure is the relevant cross-generational comparison. And Ike's got Brawl, and IIRC was designed at least in part with the franchise's new international fanbase in mind (the bigwigs took notice of the fact that the international fans seemed to prefer Hector to Eliwood and created a slightly more Hector-like MC. I could just be misremembering things, though).

Currently going with a 35-33-32 split on my Oracle. In other words, no confidence in anyone winning or losing.

General thought is Protoman should be a weak version of Zero and that should be good enough to toss Eggman around. Ike has Smash and that's usually good enough to take care of the borderline fodder.

Thinking about it, this is the first time Protoman hasn't been matched up with a Noble Niner. I think he will be a lot closer to Ike than most are expecting.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1729
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"When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet."

TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Then00bAvenger posted...

So... next debatable match is what

Does Ragna have a shot at Cole?

Mordin at Niko?

Will Epona flop?

You skipped a match, and that's the next debatable one.

Seriously, anyone got any ideas? I've currently got Ike > Eggman > Proto Man with absolutely zero confidence. If you went solely on the strength of the franchises, Sonic's got the edge over Fire Emblem and Mega Man, but last I checked Eggman wasn't terribly strong and people actually like Proto Man, though I think he's got a lower percentage of Mega's strength than Zero does of X's, which I'm pretty sure is the relevant cross-generational comparison. And Ike's got Brawl, and IIRC was designed at least in part with the franchise's new international fanbase in mind (the bigwigs took notice of the fact that the international fans seemed to prefer Hector to Eliwood and created a slightly more Hector-like MC. I could just be misremembering things, though).

Currently going with a 35-33-32 split on my Oracle. In other words, no confidence in anyone winning or losing.

I think I'm actually more confident in Ike > Protoman > Robotnik than I am the other two
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A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice.

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

WellThoughtName posted...

Gen 1 was objectively the worst, here's why : http://i.imgur.com/nkvKxTH.png

Some of those are lol-worthy but overall it's true, I don't believe Gen 1 was the worst but it was horribly unbalanced and broken at times XD

Here's an example of just ONE broken technique, the infamous Wrap, used by a trainer in Erika's gym. Go to 5:52 and watch the madness unfold, it's hilarious XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Y1G35-wo8&list=PL5C4F2BF49BE89CE4&index=45

Except 99.9% of the people that played R/B/Y cared about any of that. That's like saying Street Fighter 4 is stronger than Street Fighter 2 because it is more balanced and has better graphics. Or an even more relevant example, like claiming that Melee is stronger than Brawl in the contests because it is favoured by no-life competitive Smash wannabes.
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Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite?
However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog

Gen 1 had Scyther and Alakazam and Scyther and Alakazam are the coolest Pokemon therefore Gen 1 is the best.

Achromatic posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Achromatic posted...

TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Then00bAvenger posted...

So... next debatable match is what

Does Ragna have a shot at Cole?

Mordin at Niko?

Will Epona flop?

You skipped a match, and that's the next debatable one.

Seriously, anyone got any ideas? I've currently got Ike > Eggman > Proto Man with absolutely zero confidence. If you went solely on the strength of the franchises, Sonic's got the edge over Fire Emblem and Mega Man, but last I checked Eggman wasn't terribly strong and people actually like Proto Man, though I think he's got a lower percentage of Mega's strength than Zero does of X's, which I'm pretty sure is the relevant cross-generational comparison. And Ike's got Brawl, and IIRC was designed at least in part with the franchise's new international fanbase in mind (the bigwigs took notice of the fact that the international fans seemed to prefer Hector to Eliwood and created a slightly more Hector-like MC. I could just be misremembering things, though).

Currently going with a 35-33-32 split on my Oracle. In other words, no confidence in anyone winning or losing.

General thought is Protoman should be a weak version of Zero and that should be good enough to toss Eggman around. Ike has Smash and that's usually good enough to take care of the borderline fodder.

Thinking about it, this is the first time Protoman hasn't been matched up with a Noble Niner. I think he will be a lot closer to Ike than most are expecting.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1729

Sorry, I thought he was against Mega Man that year. Instead he was against the one non-Noble niner that would probably do better against him than half of the real Noble Nine.
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Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite?
However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog

What is this talk about old gens being bad without mentioning the Physical Special split
Pre gen 4,Pokemon like Kingler that were special type with huge attack were useless because of it
Yeah so Kingler gets 130 attack that he can't use with STAB water moves because then he would do damage with 50 base special stat...which is as powerful as Squirtle