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Also, game sales numbers and quoting the results of a LoL rally match. Come on. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpp5vkrHnZ1qipa7fo1_400.gif http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmmb4idD68O1r37arko1400gifve.gif |
So
is Bayonetta stronger than some people gave her credit for? Or did some
people just vastly overestimate the Pokemon association with N? Either way, this is getting ugly fast. Bayonetta may be stronger than what we expected, but it was mostly some people overestimating Pokemon --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 24/28 Today's Picks: Falcon and Bayonetta |
LOL Tsunami --- You know who's sexy? Black Turtle, the 2010 Games Contest Guru Winner, that's who! |
What
does that even have to do with anything. Draven supporters were
counting on a rally. If you told everyone before the match that "there
will be no rally for Draven," then nearly all of those people would have
switched to Jak. N supporters (and there aren't too many; Bayonetta is a
heavy favorite here) expected N to have the natural "GameFAQs strength"
to win this. No one was counting on a rally. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
charmander6000 posted... And Draven was closer to Chie than to Jak. Because Chie was closer to Jak than to Draven. While there is no reason to expect a rally here, my statement is still completely true. Reading comprehension issues much? I'm saying that it's not really comparable because LoL had a huge rally in it and that won't happen here, but the statement I've made--that characters have looked like absolute trash early on and still won--is a true statement. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Guess I was wrong about Alucard not being able to come back against Falcon. At least I stayed on the leaderboard and got a +6 in expert because of it. |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... Oh, I've conceded this match. But I refuse to concede my point that Chie was smashing Draven worse at this point of the match than Bayonetta's smashing N now. That's probably because League of Legends is huge anti-vote fodder for anyone who doesn't play League of Legends, who probably made up a huge chunk of the first 30 minute voting block. I know the LoL subreddit and GD forums on the game's website were trying to get out the vote for him, which I'm sure contributed to his rise. Draaaaaaaven.. --- I pwn you all! |
Heck yeah Alucard. Like a boss! --- ... as if rights are like muscles - the more you use it, the better it gets. Indeed he may be exercising his first amendment-- but he's an IDIOT! - A. Scalia |
charmander6000 posted... So is Bayonetta stronger than some people gave her credit for? Or did some people just vastly overestimate the Pokemon association with N? No, it's totally underestimating Bayonetta. N looks just about as strong as I expected. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... charmander6000 posted...And Draven was closer to Chie than to Jak. Because Chie was closer to Jak than to Draven. While there is no reason to expect a rally here, my statement is still completely true. A good argument doesn't consist of "true statements", it consists of relevant statements. --- Still smilin' :> |
Bayonetta
probably isn't all that strong and is just beating weak opponents. N
would probably be stronger if this site wasn't so obsessed with the
objectively inferior Pokemon generations. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
I wasn't trying to make an argument. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
swordz9 posted... Bayonetta probably isn't all that strong and is just beating weak opponents. N would probably be stronger if this site wasn't so obsessed with the objectively inferior Pokemon generations. Nobody's arguing that. We've all known from the beginning that this was a fodder vs. fodder vs. fodder match. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Serebii,Bulbapedia,Pokebeach,Pokejungle and Marilland Someone go rally there now!! I just don't think it's possible..sadly |
Bayonetta is still gaining half a percent with like every update --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. |
By
the way, I have to point out that Wander received the well-received
Shadow of the Colossus HD port since his loss to Captain Falcon, which
is the only thing he's ever gotten apart from the original release of
his only game. Couple that with SotC's very impressive GotD performance,
and I speculate this is the strongest (or... least weak) we've ever
seen Wander. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
Steins_Gate posted... Right now N is more likely to fall behind Wander than overtake Bayonetta. My 1.5x Bayo against N predix is very possible. More likely? Nah. Just as likely? Yeah. Both have a 0% chance of happening. This match is over; Bayonetta > N > Wander. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
ChenKenichiFan posted... By the way, I have to point out that Wander received the well-received Shadow of the Colossus HD port since his loss to Captain Falcon, which is the only thing he's ever gotten apart from the original release of his only game. Couple that with SotC's very impressive GotD performance, and I speculate this is the strongest (or... least weak) we've ever seen Wander. Wander suffers from pre-HL2 Gordon Freeman syndrome. How many people even know that the protagonist of SotC is named Wander? --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Does anyone else think an actual collossi would perform better than Wander? --- http://i.imgur.com/97Pxu.gif http://i.imgur.com/DOF4PCH.gif |
lol, can't read --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 24/28 Today's Picks: Falcon and Bayonetta |
I played about half of SotC and I had to look him up Maybe you know about him from the ending or something..or game manual..I dunno |
TAFKAHurricane posted... Does anyone else think an actual collossi would perform better than Wander? "Colossi" is plural, and it's only spelled with one l. But, yes, an actual colossus probably would outperform Wander. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
swordz9 posted... N would probably be stronger if this site wasn't so obsessed with the objectively inferior Pokemon generations. This is something that has always annoyed me and it isn't just this site. Everyone holds RBY up on this nostalgia pedestal as if it's the best thing since sliced bread, but it really isn't all that great. Bad visuals, mediocre music, inferior gameplay, and an essentially non-existant story. I mean all of these weren't changed, but the improved-and in some cases simply no longer broken-gameplay and the added postgame stuff were more then enough to make the later generations far better. --- This is my signature. |
A character who you know even if you've never touched the game vs a character you might not know even if you loved the game. Good match up --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Your childhood doesn't have a price. B/W are my favorite games, but I have more fondness for the older Pokemon and characters. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
swordz9 posted... objectively inferior Pokemon generations. lawl |
I
dunno if that's it. FF7 gets weaker every year and Pokemon does not. If
it's really nostalgia and childhood, shouldn't Crono and Cloud still be
near elites that can take on Link and never lose to others? --- Still smilin' :> |
pyresword posted... swordz9 posted...N would probably be stronger if this site wasn't so obsessed with the objectively inferior Pokemon generations. Most people stopped playing when they turned 12, though. --- "Hamas isn't really a terror organization." -Terran [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
An
argument that Pokemon is for kiddies?Come on now,I thought that would
be in the past.Also nobody cares about Human characters in Pokemon games
it seems. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
pyresword posted... swordz9 posted...N would probably be stronger if this site wasn't so obsessed with the objectively inferior Pokemon generations. I enjoyed only having to deal with a hundred or soish pokemon. When it got the ridiculous "gotta catch em all" five hundred+ im like.... the f*** is the point anymore to the "simple but fun" pokegame? --- fEeD mEh!!1 |
hylianknight3 posted... swordz9 posted...objectively inferior Pokemon generations. What's the laugh about? Technically speaking RBY and GSC ARE objectively inferior products. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
hylianknight3 posted... swordz9 posted...objectively inferior Pokemon generations. He's right. R/B is a pretty janky game and newer Pokemon games have made a ton of improvements. That doesn't mean I give any s***s about the human characters from the more recent games, though. I'd vote for Red, Blue, Oak, and the old gym leaders in a lot of situations, but someone like uh... whoever the main character of Black is would have to be against utter trash for me to consider voting for him. --- For your SuperNiceDog. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
pyresword posted... This is something that has always annoyed me and it isn't just this site. Everyone holds RBY up on this nostalgia pedestal as if it's the best thing since sliced bread, but it really isn't all that great. Bad visuals, mediocre music, inferior gameplay, and an essentially non-existant story. I mean all of these weren't changed, but the improved-and in some cases simply no longer broken-gameplay and the added postgame stuff were more then enough to make the later generations far better. No, no, no, no. R/B/Y launched Pokemon. It was the beginning of the whole franchise. Not enough people give it credit for what it pioneered. And it's still not that bad a game on its own merit today. It's still replayable. And are we really judging old-school games by their visuals now??? --- Drop it to the floor... |
I
wonder which colossus would be the strongest. Maybe the first one
because it's the most recognizable, or one of the fan favorites like the
flying one or the last one --- http://i.imgur.com/CQVaT6Xl.jpg |
Problem
is that the playrate of FFVII (and CT) decreases every year. I don't
think Cloud or Crono will have dropped much within the group of voters
that have played their games, but that group is smaller now than it's
ever been. Cloud and Seph had Kingdom Hearts which gave them exposure to
younger fans, but that's long gone now. Link has Smash, frequent Zeldas
and even an OoT upgrade/re-release (FFVII releasing for PC/PSN isn't
the same). Pokemon was so big that nearly everyone was exposed to it when they were young (and a lot of GameFAQs types hated it for its mainstream popularity, since it used to suck in our polls, but that backlash has all but gone). --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
The funniest thing is the remakes are better products and people still like the original versions more. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
pyresword posted... swordz9 posted...N would probably be stronger if this site wasn't so obsessed with the objectively inferior Pokemon generations. Oh, I agree completely, especially that "non-existent story" part. To me, there's a dividing line between "old Pokémon" and "new Pokémon", and it actually came midway through a generation. Specifically, Diamond and Pearl are the last of the "old Pokémon" games, and Platinum is the first of the "new" ones. They went into a lot more depth about Cyrus's motives and backstory and fleshed him out as a character (and made him into a damn good villain, someone you can really build up a lot of hatred for). Then they did a marvelous job remaking the Gen II games, and, well, I don't even want to post details about B/W in spoilers. Oh, what the hell, I will anyway. Basically, N has been raised by Ghetsis away from all other humans, with Pokémon as his only companions, and led to believe that humans are complete bastards and that Pokémon are being oppressed. This is to lead him to be the front for their organization, whose stated goal is to free all Pokémon. What Ghetsis actually wants, though, is to rule the world as the only Pokémon trainer. Ghetsis is kind of an ass like that. Once N finally learns the truth, at the end of Black/White, he forsakes Team Plasma. Come B2/W2, Team Plasma has split into two groups, one that still follows Ghetsis and has new uniforms and one that follows N and wears the B/W Team Plasma uniforms. So, yeah, N totally isn't even a villain in B2/W2. That change--the fact that he's been manipulated pretty much since birth and finally realizes that everything he thought he knew was a lie, and becomes a better person, is why he's such a compelling character, and why I refused to believe that he was "polarizing". I've never really met a Pokémon B/W fan who didn't like N. But, yeah, I massively underestimated Bayonetta. I'm pretty much just waiting for her to pull an update where she increases her lead by more than 100 now. She's had two separate ones where she upped it by 90, two others by over 80 and two by 75. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
I favor Gen 1 because of how breakable it is and how fun the glitches are --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
kinsho3 posted... pyresword posted...This is something that has always annoyed me and it isn't just this site. Everyone holds RBY up on this nostalgia pedestal as if it's the best thing since sliced bread, but it really isn't all that great. Bad visuals, mediocre music, inferior gameplay, and an essentially non-existant story. I mean all of these weren't changed, but the improved-and in some cases simply no longer broken-gameplay and the added postgame stuff were more then enough to make the later generations far better. It's not the visuals, although they are quite bad once you're used to the newer ones. It's just so simplistic. Gen I didn't even have held items or breeding, and abilities didn't come into play until Gen III. The old generations aren't bad, but they can't really compare with the newer ones. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
I'm
noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet
this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following
these contests for almost 10 years. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog |
swordz9 posted... Bayonetta probably isn't all that strong and is just beating weak opponents. N would probably be stronger if this site wasn't so obsessed with the objectively inferior Pokemon generations. lol --- "Have you ever wondered if there was more to life, other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking?" 3DS FC- 5472-6201-0498 |
I'm
noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet
this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following
these contests for almost 10 years. You got lucky, a vet would've expected Falcon to win when they woke up based on trends. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 24/28 Today's Picks: Falcon and Bayonetta |
Regaro_Ukiera posted... I favor Gen 1 because of how breakable it is and how fun the glitches are Okay, yeah, that is a good argument in favor of Gen I. Even without the Old Man glitch, Yellow's still buggier than any game that came after it. Although early copies of the Japanese version of D/P had some interesting glitches; they fixed them before the game was localized for us, though, and later copies of the Japanese versions also had them fixed. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
N's
not bad. I'm more amazed people think Silver is a good rival/character
when he's a pathetic joke who cries about losing when he is using awful
Pokemon. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I'm noticing the gaggle of newbs from last night have been aweful quiet this morning. I think they forget that the veterans have been following these contests for almost 10 years. Turtle you were a huge arrogant guy last night for no real reason. Learn some social graces and maybe I won't be embarrassed to share atopic with you. --- "When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet." |
Kotetsu534 posted... Problem is that the playrate of FFVII (and CT) decreases every year. I don't think Cloud or Crono will have dropped much within the group of voters that have played their games, but that group is smaller now than it's ever been. Cloud and Seph had Kingdom Hearts which gave them exposure to younger fans, but that's long gone now. Link has Smash, frequent Zeldas and even an OoT upgrade/re-release (FFVII releasing for PC/PSN isn't the same). I think the smaller vote pool, and more dedicated people still visiting GameFAQs versus the peak years when it was the place everyone went to for help, would be a boon to something like CT. The audience voting today is probably more familiar with CT than the audience years ago. Maybe I'm wrong here! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
What,
Turtle still ended up looking stupid. He expected Alucard to build a
lead of 700 before Falcon took some back with the morning vote. It
didn't happen that way at all. Alucard's lead never surpassed ~100, and
that's what he won by. --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... This isn't too surprising. Alucard has always had a strong morning vote while Falcon excels at Power Hour and ASV. I expected it to be more lopsided overnight and more even in the morning. but somehow BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I'm gonna go out on a limb with some STUNNING PREDICTIONS: Those of us contest veterans who have been following this kinda stuff for 10 years though know that BT is full of s*** --- sig |
Alucard's lead barely surpassed 100. His maximum lead was 114. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Meanwhile, I look stupid for calling the match literally one minute in, and I get away with it scot-free! Ah, the magic of the continually wrong infallible bracket. --- sig |
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