Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1071

#351 | tgs2 | Posted 7/22/2013 3:03:24 PM | message detail
I'd take Tingle and BOI Isaac to 60-40 Keen, but not double. Doubling keen arguably has them around Barret's level of strength which I don't think looks right. (Keen only loses 47-53 to Layton right now barring more percentage loss from Isaac)
#352 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/22/2013 3:08:08 PM | message detail
40% for Crash...Amazing.
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#353 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/22/2013 3:10:57 PM | message detail | (edited)
This match got me thinking
What other old,lesser game character could be in the contest..and be stronger than Keen?
Jazz Jackrabbit the first one to come to mind,maybe Gex too?
Pitfall Harry,Croc,Doom Guy..
But yeah,Jazz will probably be the strongest

Or we should nominate Tyris Flare from Golden Axe..or better yet,the girl from Cadillacs and Dinosaurs
#354 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/22/2013 3:11:33 PM | message detail
We need Bubsy in!
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#355 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/22/2013 3:12:11 PM | message detail
Also Klonoa. The PS1 platformer revival must gather new recruits if it is to continue apace.
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#356 | Zylothewolf | Posted 7/22/2013 3:21:09 PM | message detail
James Pond obviously needs to be in one of these things.
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#357 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/22/2013 3:34:19 PM | message detail
Here's a list of games from all 3 games contests that have no characters that appeared in the contest. Maybe we can think of someone from there.

Advance Wars
Adventure
Baldur's Gate II
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Battletoads
Civilization
Civilization IV
Contra
Crystalis
Dance Dance Revolution
Demon's Souls
Doom
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior III
Eternal Darkness
Fable
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Galaga
GoldenEye 007
Grand Theft Auto III
Gunstar Heroes
ICO
Jet Grind Radio
Left 4 Dead
Lufia II
NiGHTS into Dreams…
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star IV
Plants vs. Zombies
Pong
River City Ransom
Rock Band 2
Secret of Mana
Shining Force
Shining Force II
SimCity
Space Invaders
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Star Wars: Battlefront II
Streets of Rage II
Suikoden
Tecmo Super Bowl
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
The Legend of Dragoon
The Oregon Trail
The Simpsons
The Sims
TimeSplitters 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
WWF No Mercy
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#358 | pyresword | Posted 7/22/2013 3:40:11 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Here's a list of games from all 3 games contests that have no characters that appeared in the contest. Maybe we can think of someone from there.

Final Fantasy


Come to think of it this one in particular is really weird. I have to imagine Warrior or Black Mage or something could do really well
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#359 | creativename | Posted 7/22/2013 3:58:46 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Also, we have no real proof that Snake and Nintendo have any significant disproportionate overlap. People taking it for granted that it'll happen kind of blow my mind.



Especially considering it didn't happen here, when you would expect it to show up. Yes, Snake had a bandwagon going into that match and actually led Link for a while, but if Snake gets SSB support sapped by facing Nintendo, he shouldn't have beaten Cloud.

(And no, Crono being there wouldn't cancel the effect out)

Why does Crono being there not potentially cancel the effect out? Fact is we really have no idea.

Now I, like most, don't believe FF7 and Chrono Trigger have much overlap. However, I think you misunderstand if you think I'm saying the Snake/Nintendo SFF is huge.

I'm saying that the Nintendo relationship has probably boosted Snake from getting around, say, 55-45'd by Cloud to probably being just about dead even with him (and potentially a 1v1 favorite as a close match would almost undoubtedly create rallies against FF7). That's not a HUGE boost from Nintendo, obviously the great majority of Snake's strength comes from the MGS games.

But, Cloud/Crono might have a similar relationship. In that it isn't much relatively speaking, but in a match like that it could certainly have an influence. Especially in a 4-way where Cloud's static anti-vote base works badly against him.

As for Snake not getting beaten down by Nintendo hierarchy in 4-ways - that's because he NEEDED to resist SFF to beat Cloud. Voters have proven to be very aware of such things, especially the Power Hour(s) voters. They know when someone needs their support - and they will vote against their actual favorite character because someone else needs their vote.

If Snake is in a FF7-less match with Link/Snake/Mario, I just don't see that extra boost Snake got from Nintendo going his way. At all. I consider Snake's chances to win this contest to be quite dim. Not saying it's impossible of course, but I'd be damn surprised.

He might lead lead early in the Power Hour due to bandwagon/Link anti-votes - people wanting to break the LAW and such.

But it's a 24 hour match, and Link will absolutely *crush* him in the day vote/ASV vote (this match occurs when school has started right...?). Mario will sap votes from him during the day vote as well, although not as bad as Link. So that bandwagon effect Snake pretty much *needs* to win will likely be nullified by Link's powers in a 24 hour match, which are significantly higher than his powers in a 12 hour match, especially during the day where MGS is poor and Zelda is top tier, and in addition the "wiseguy" voters have their votes diluted by higher vote totals.
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#360 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/22/2013 4:04:06 PM | message detail | (edited)
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior III


Slime is in this contest.

And Black Mage has made it in a bunch of times, he's just called Vivi.

>_>
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#361 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 4:12:28 PM | message detail | (edited)
charmander6000 posted...
Here's a list of games from all 3 games contests that have no characters that appeared in the contest. Maybe we can think of someone from there.


Let's see...

Andy (Advance Wars)
Gorion's Ward (Baldur's Gate II)(no official name so that kinda kills his chances)
Zitz (Battletoads)(just picking the coolest looking one, having three kind of kills it because people are too stubborn to rally behind one)
George Washington (Civ)
Bill Rizer (Contra)
Simea (Crystalis)
Doomguy
Dart (Legend of Dragoon)(would have had a better chance if he made it into PSASBR)
Morrigan (Dragon Age: Origins)
Jessica (Dragon Quest VIII)
Hero (Dragon Quest III)(oh god not again)
Pious Augustus (Eternal Darkness)(many failed rallies for this guy)
Jack of Blades (Fable)(remake coming out, might be our last shot)
Garland (Final Fantasy)
Marche Radiuju (FFTA)
Vic Viper (Gradius)(instead of Galaga)
Claude (GTAIII)(also many failed rallies)
Ico (ICO)
Red (Gunstar Heroes)
Beat (Jet Grind Radio)(with all the re-releases and the HD remake, he might do well just on his unique appearance that's everywhere nowadays)
Zoey (Left 4 Dead)(was in a vote-in poll but got SFF'd by Louis. Might have made it if she wasn't. L4D is old now tho)
Maxim (Lufia II)
NiGHTs
Edge (Panzer Dragoon Saga)
Alis Landale (Phantasy Star)
Chaz Ashley (Phantasy Star IV)
Sunflower or Zombie (PvZ)(would be really weak unless Red Bird surprises us)
Left Pong Paddle
Alex or Ryan (River City Ransom)
Hero (Secret of Mana)(we can't keep doing this)
Max (Shining Force)
Dr. Wright (SimCity)
Invader (Space Invaders)
Fayt Leingod (Star Ocean: TtEoT)(also many failed rallies)
Blaze Fielding (Streets of Rage)
Viki, Georg Prime or Jeane (Suikoden series recurring characters; broadest reach)
Bo Jackson (Tecmo Super Bowl)
Nerevarine (Elder Scrolls III)(just the main character like Dragonborn, most commonly a generic dark elf)
Dysentery (The Oregon Trail)
Sergeant Cortez (Timesplitters)(lots of failed rallies here)
Jo-Beth Casey (Timesplitters)(has "SLUT" written on her shirt, would just be funny to see it on the front page)

I think we should also consider Mai from King of Fighters. Also Joel and Ellie from the Last of Us. Maybe Felicia from Darkstalkers if Morrigan does well.
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#362 | Sorozone | Posted 7/22/2013 4:05:24 PM | message detail
Demon's Souls-Maiden in Black.
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#363 | superange128 | Posted 7/22/2013 4:06:21 PM | message detail | (edited)
With Star Ocean 3 I feel like is one of those games where the MC isn't the strongest. I feel like Nel, Maria, and Albel would be stronger
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#364 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 7/22/2013 4:07:01 PM | message detail
Left Pong Paddle

I can see the potential.

Also, holy ****, a Secret of Mana character has never made it in? :[
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#365 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/22/2013 4:10:10 PM | message detail
Forget all these losers.
Nominate Metroid Prime!
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#366 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/22/2013 4:19:15 PM | message detail
I hope the picture of Rydia has TJF.
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#367 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/22/2013 4:24:08 PM | message detail
Slime is in this contest.

Knew I forgot someone
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#368 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 7/22/2013 4:24:54 PM | message detail
From: charmander6000 | #357
Here's a list of games from all 3 games contests that have no characters that appeared in the contest. Maybe we can think of someone from there.

Adventure


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#369 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/22/2013 4:36:13 PM | message detail
If you're thinking of BG2 characters, the Ward's 'official' name is either Abdel Adrian or Bhaalspawn, depending on how much you want to forget horribly bad novels. I have to imagine Irenicus or Minsc would be the better picks though, those two guys are supremely memorable.

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And back to debatable match talk, I honestly want to hear the argument here: Why are we discounting the fact that Alucard has gotten two games since last contest and has one more on the pipeline at the least? I get that we're all hungry for a truly great match, but I just can't see the hype. Alucard is legit. He's not a 'low midcarder', he's full on midcarder legit and he's gonna show it in his match, especially considering he has a new lease on life that he did not have for years and years of contests. If his decay has not reversed, it has certainly been stemmed, at the least.
#370 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/22/2013 4:45:09 PM | message detail
AppreciateTrees posted...
Left Pong Paddle

I can see the potential.

Also, holy ****, a Secret of Mana character has never made it in? :[


Well, Pong Paddle actually was in the 2007 bonus poll. Don't think that really counts but here are the numbers anyway:

31.33% directly on Weighted Companion Cube
22.96% directly on L-Block
17.77% directly on ? Block

You might be able to argue that it was facing SFF from L-Block due to its resemblance to I-Block, too, but then again, why are you taking that poll seriously in the first place?
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#371 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/22/2013 4:46:25 PM | message detail
AppreciateTrees posted...
Left Pong Paddle

I can see the potential.

Also, holy ****, a Secret of Mana character has never made it in? :[


Well, I can't see any SoM characters doing anything worth a damn.

Well, other than Santa Claus of course.
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#372 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 7/22/2013 4:47:17 PM | message detail | (edited)
ZenOfThunder posted...
Dysentery (The Oregon Trail)


Didn't originate in a video game. Besides, do you really want to do that match pic?
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#373 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 4:46:34 PM | message detail
Other characters we can rally for:

Strider Hiryu (Bacon probably won't care about the comic if we explain it. Also has a new game coming out soon)
Baby Metroid or Metroid Prime (Metroid)
Call of Duty Dog (we have to find out his name first)
King Hippo (Punch-Out!!)
Zubaz (Divekick)(basically running on Two Best Friends Play fuel, they'd probably make a video to rally him)
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool
Wii Fit Trainer
Villager (Animal Crossing)(has a meme now or w/e)
Guts Man (Mega Man)
Cut Man (Mega Man)
Vile (Mega Man X)
Peppy Hare (Star Fox)
Ivysaur, Gyarados, Umbreon, some other popular pokemon (we have to decide on one to throw our weight behind)
Giovanni, Misty, Brock, Professor Oak (Pokemon)
Gold, Silver (Pokemon)
Majora (Majora's Mask)
Blaze the Cat (Sonic)
Malon, Ruto, Darunia (Zelda)(yeah might as well go all the way. ZELDAFEAR.)
Dr. Kawashima (Brain Training)
Yuffie, Red XIII, Reno, Cait Sith (FFVII)
Quistis, Zell (FFVIII)(let's make leon happy)
Guile, Cammy, Dhalsim, E. Honda, Zangief (Street Fighter II)
Blinky (Pac-Man)
Space Michael Jackson (Space Channel 5)
Michael, Trevor, Franklin (GTAV)(going to be hard because the noms will be split 3 ways, we'd have to arrive at a consensus BEFORE noms open)
Reiko Nagase (Ridge Racer)(yeah I know, but she has boobs and people like Ridge Racer for some reason)
HUNK, Rebecca Chambers, Jack Krauser (Resident Evil)
Arbiter (Halo 2)
Chase McCain (LEGO City)(just to see a LEGO guy on the front page)
Taki, Mitsurugi, Sophitia, Cervantes (SoulCalibur)(although Nightmare is probably the peak strength here)
Johnny Cage, Liu Kang, Shao Kahn, Raiden (Mortal Kombat)
Death, Richter Belmont, Shanoa (Castlevania)
Lemming (Lemmings)
Chloe Frazer (Uncharted 2)(boobs, one of the most popular games ever, butt, somehow was in the database w/o b8 help)
Kane (Command & Conker)(he won't be a TV this time; would be fun to have a live action guy in a match pic)
Lady (Devil May Cry)
Liara T'soni, Tali'Zorah vas Normandy, EDI, Thane Krios, Miranda Lawson, Legion (Mass Effect)
Johnny Gat (Saints Row)
Samanosuke Akechi (Onimusha)
Ayane (Dead or Alive)
Edward Carnby (Alone in the Dark)
Rabbid (Rayman Raving Rabbids)
Kid (Chrono Cross)
Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal)


I'll probably think of more. I know some of these are pretty bad but it's hard thinking of characters we haven't gotten in yet. If we ever had "newcomers only" it'd be a disaster
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#374 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/22/2013 4:48:39 PM | message detail
I forgot to rally for the Great Deku Tree this time. He would have made it too. I'm so bad. :(
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#375 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/22/2013 4:52:22 PM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
I forgot to rally for the Great Deku Tree this time. He would have made it too. I'm so bad. :(


with this field he probably would've won a match
#376 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 4:52:56 PM | message detail
Great Deku Tree replaces any Touhou character and we'd have a real match

Barret vs a tree gogogo
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#377 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/22/2013 4:54:00 PM | message detail
Can't wait for the next character battle.

Chair from FF7 vs Tree from OoT.
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#378 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/22/2013 4:56:56 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Can't wait for the next character battle.

Chair from FF7 vs Tree from OoT.


still more exciting than Link vs Cloud
#379 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 4:59:59 PM | message detail | (edited)
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5171.jpg
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Credit:
greatone10, ZenOfThunder, and Menji
GloriousSweater, GANON1025, and metaIslugg
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#380 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/22/2013 5:06:52 PM | message detail
Why does it feel like Rydia looks like Felicia in that pic?

Also Zen, you forgot Digimon. We are most definitely nominating something from that series because you just know whatever entrant we pick would wipe the floor with all the guys on that list.
#381 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 5:09:37 PM | message detail
How many Digimon originated in the games?
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#382 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/22/2013 5:13:46 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
How many Digimon originated in the games?


Most, I think. Starting here, all of these count as 'game first': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Monster_%28virtual_pet%29#Digimon_Evolution_Tree
#383 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 5:14:37 PM | message detail
oh man we should get Greymon in
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#384 | superange128 | Posted 7/22/2013 5:15:01 PM | message detail
WarGreymon for next Character Battel
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#385 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/22/2013 5:19:17 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
26------49----------22.45
25------230--------23.91
24------453--------31.57
23------778--------39.59
22------1198------41.57
21------1797------43.96
20------2080------42.74
19------2091------42.47
18------1831------39.60
17------1434------38.08
16------1045------44.11
15------741--------42.78
14------479--------42.38
13------318--------43.71
12------251--------40.64
11------165--------38.18
10------105--------35.24
9--------70----------40.00
8--------41----------14.63
7--------30----------33.33
6--------18----------50.00
5--------11----------18.18
4--------4------------0.00
3--------2------------0.00
2--------17----------5.88
1--------4------------75.00
0--------12----------41.67

As you might have guessed from looking at Crash's support in the Guru contest and BOP, this match was a disaster for the top tiers. Barely over 20% of the perfects survive the match and many of those that got it wrong stuck around on the leaderboard anyways. The middle tiers did a lot better but at the same time still not all that great. They are mostly in the low to mid-40s for prediction percentage. Either they had a fair amount of faith in Wheatley or Vercetti got a fair amount of support despite never really being in the battle for first place.

19 people fell off the Top 49. JaySolano, JordockX, junglebob22, Karma_Hunter, Kumatora, lightsout06, Lizcious, luigi_master29, MrDew, MZero11, Nanis23, raginbull911, Ron13, Spikedross, SuorGenoveffa, trogita, t_kizzle, Xcarvenger and YetAnothrShadow did not have Crash winning.

19 people managed to stay on the Top 49 despite getting the match wrong. Former first place AAAMitsugi, former third place Ayvuir, BakusaiTenketsu, Bane_Of_Despair, BlackMetalex, BlAcK_TuRtLe, BZer0, CarveyFAQs, Cloud_Link32145, Colegreen_c12, davidponte, DeadlySyn, dimi161, FlammieX, frodragon, GoldSlime35, hellfire104, Ian_Ventricle and iGenesis also did not have Crash winning.
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#386 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/22/2013 5:31:02 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
oh man we should get Greymon in


superange128 posted...
WarGreymon for next Character Battel



IT BEGINS
#387 | ecksgem | Posted 7/22/2013 5:31:32 PM | message detail
Agumon or Angemon would probably be strongest.

I wasn't sure if the v-pets counted or their release dates, but many years ago I did a little research on Myotismon and didn't find anything that would discredit Digimon World as his origin.

I say we get all three in!
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#388 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 5:33:47 PM | message detail
Honestly, I'm all for rallying "maybe they'll be strong but probably not" picks next year. At this point there's really no genuinely strong new guys we can get in (that we know of) so we might as well just get extra "happy-to-be-here" fodder in
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#389 | raginbull911 | Posted 7/22/2013 5:37:53 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...

19 people fell off the Top 49. JaySolano, JordockX, junglebob22, Karma_Hunter, Kumatora, lightsout06, Lizcious, luigi_master29, MrDew, MZero11, Nanis23, raginbull911, Ron13, Spikedross, SuorGenoveffa, trogita, t_kizzle, Xcarvenger and YetAnothrShadow did not have Crash winning.


And thus was order restored to the summer contest. Verily, it came to pass. Cursed alphabetical order, I would beat most of the fiends remaining at 26 at karma count!
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#390 | LordOfDabu | Posted 7/22/2013 5:54:35 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
Other characters we can rally for:

Strider Hiryu (Bacon probably won't care about the comic if we explain it. Also has a new game coming out soon)


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/962
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/983

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#391 | scaryice | Posted 7/22/2013 6:01:06 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Why does it feel like Rydia looks like Felicia in that pic?


I would've guessed Terra.
#392 | scaryice | Posted 7/22/2013 6:05:08 PM | message detail
I wouldn't mind seeing Strider and Sweet Tooth. Vic Viper would be cool too, although I'm not sure if it qualifies as a character.
#393 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 6:08:58 PM | message detail
LordOfDabu posted...
ZenOfThunder posted...
Other characters we can rally for:

Strider Hiryu (Bacon probably won't care about the comic if we explain it. Also has a new game coming out soon)


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/962
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/983

:)



Yeah but after that he got removed for originating in a manga first, and now that's he's more relevant than ever we should just rally him hard. Ceej is the one that banned him and now we have Bacon who might not remember/care. Strider was in the database this year so I think we got a good shot.
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#394 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/22/2013 6:30:24 PM | message detail
so Alucard/Falcon/Rydia, I assume most of you have Alucard?
#395 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/22/2013 6:43:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's a night match and Alucard is a vampire
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#396 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/22/2013 7:15:31 PM | message detail
Match XXIX: (6) Alucard vs. (13) Captain Falcon vs. (22) Rydia

Previous Contest

Alucard – 2010
58.42% against Magus
28.21% against Link

Captain Falcon – 2010
71.13% against Wander
52.48% against Riku
30.07% against Cloud Strife

Rydia – 2008
17.48% against Auron, Sub-Zero and Marcus Fenix

Analysis

I feel this match should have had more debate; it seems most people looked at the time of the match and went with Alucard and while this being a night match could be the deciding factor Falcon can still win despite it being night. We are also lucky enough to have seen this match before in 2008, but that was not exactly fair for Captain Falcon.

While Rydia did impress me in her match in 2008 she is a bit out of her league in here. Final Fantasy IV has been re-released a few times since we last saw her, but I think the game has already reached a saturation point by 2008 and any new fans will likely be minimal. Still for a third place character she may end up being one of the more impressive ones.

In 2008 the two characters went up against each other twice. In the first round Alucard got 55.59% with Diddy Kong in the poll and in the second round Alucard got 60.34% with Pikachu in the poll. As Pikachu is stronger he was able to SFF Falcon while Diddy Kong was able to LFF. The major questions are would Falcon have won had there been no Diddy Kong and how are they now 5 years later.

How much LFF a match had is hard to measure, but Falcon was in the range that if he still lost it would have been very close. Looking at 2010 both performed quite similar, especially against Link and Cloud. Both likely benefitted from anti-votes and it is arguably true that Falcon benefitted from more anti-votes. However, Alucard had the benefit of a night match against Link while Falcon also had a night match with Cloud.

Since 2010 Alucard has appeared in a 3DS game while Captain Falcon has remained stagnant, I do not think it will be a game changer, but every little bit helps. Had this been a day or 24 hour match I think people would be more confident, but I think people are overrating the night. In their 2008 match Alucard had 56.54% on Captain Falcon at the 12 hour mark so he only lost 1% over the rest of the day which included the after school vote, something that will not happen here. Either way I am looking forward to hopefully a close match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Captain Falcon > Alucard and Rydia

charmander6000’s Prediction: Captain Falcon – 38.36%, Alucard – 37.26%, Rydia – 24.38%
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#397 | superange128 | Posted 7/22/2013 7:18:51 PM | message detail
I also believe people are slightly overestimating the night but like charmander said it should (and hopefuly will be) close
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#398 | Advokaiser | Posted 7/22/2013 7:18:54 PM | message detail
I'm raising the glass a little late because I don't have much time to be checking this but YAY!!! CRASH WON!!!

Now I redeemed myself for picking CATS and I'm back on the Leaderboard, babe!
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#399 | Metal_DK | Posted 7/22/2013 7:22:38 PM | message detail
is it worth putting any stock into the fact that snake got more total votes than link? Or just that the contest is picking up steam a bit now that more outside sources know about it?
#400 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/22/2013 7:23:50 PM | message detail
Solid Snake > Link
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