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ChenKenichiFan posted... I still consider Cloud the big favorite if Pikachu sneaks his way in. I think people underestimate how much of Snake's popularity stems from Nintendo/Smash. Remember, before the enormous 2006 Brawl reveal, Snake was getting 57/43'd by Mega Man and almost dropping matches to Bowser. Snake - not Crono, Sonic, or Mega Man - was the "weakest link" of the Noble 9 who would finally drop the streak. The year after MGS3, Snake turned a 43% loss against Mega Man to a 43% loss against Mario. A decent enough improvement, but after the Brawl trailer, he turned that 43% loss to Mega Man into a 55% win. Smash is easily the biggest thing he's ever gotten in the timeframe of these contests, and that advantage will get diluted against the rat. Cloud is the perfect choice to take advantage of too much Nintendo lovin. You forgot about Metal Gear Solid 4. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Not as big as Brawl for Snake. The Brawl trailer lit up the internet. You don't get exposure like that often. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
The problem is there's like no way Pikachu gets to Cloud. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
The more KH talks about Mewtwo > Vincent, the more I think it might actually.... happen. --- "i am pretty sure 3-year old children would generate more thoughtful discussion than board 8 on any topic of sexism" - Naye745 |
So, what do you think of the next match? Any chance Alucard loses to Captain Falcon? |
It quite literally ALL depends on Nathan Drake. Drake's R2 match determines the rest of the contest. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
ChenKenichiFan posted... It quite literally ALL depends on Nathan Drake. Drake's R2 match determines the rest of the contest. No. It also depends on whether or nor Pikachu is actually able to defeat Crono. Even if Drake gets to round 3, we don't know if Pikachu will even be there. Also, there's no chance Drake beats Fox at least. Not sure about Blue. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
does Drake even get to round 2? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Suddenly I'm sacred Otacon can beat Magus. And then Pikachu's run just might be ruined. Curse you, division 6! --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Pikachu
is not the one I'm worried about. People are giving Crono a lot of
credit here. Yes, 2010 was wonky for him, but he was on a downward trend
before then, and there is no logical reason to expect a "rebound" in
the past few years, especially since both CT teams didn't look good in
Rivalry Rumble. The rat is gonna stand out soooo much.
Yoshi/Luigi/Bowser would take that match easily, and Pikachu isn't
nearly as below them as he used to be. Heck, he might be on even
footing. Drake's part of the equation is the one that really concerns me - there are so many variables there (hell, he could lose to Pac-Man and cost me everything in R1, even that's a possibility). Luckily, it looks like Mr. Game & Watch is ensured a win against Lee Everett now, so one part of the R2 match puzzle is COMPLETE. While I don't think it's impossible for Drake to beat Fox given G&W's presence, I don't consider it very likely. Blue needs to win in R1. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg |
Drake is facing Steve and Pac-man. Unless he is 2013's Ocelot, he should coast to round 2. |
Lets go Otacon *clap**clap**clap**clap**clap* --- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude. SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude |
Updated Top 10 Top 10 Closest Matches 1. Tharja 36.21% vs. Tiny Tina 35.35% - Round 1 0.86% 2. Captain Viridian 13.51% vs. Peacock 11.60% - Round 1 1.91% 3. Hero 25.76% vs. Rinoa Heartilly 23.26% - Round 1 2.50% 4. Isaac 15.36% vs. Tingle 11.97% - Round 1 3.39% 5. Miles Edgeworth 28.18% vs. Agent 47 23.63% - Round 1 4.55% 6. Chrom 29.78% vs. Heavy 24.61% - Round 1 5.17% 7. Crash Bandicoot 42.59% vs. Wheatley 36.76% - Round 1 5.83% 8. Midna 24.55% vs. Little Mac 18.08% - Round 1 6.47% 9. Fei Fong Wong 20.17% vs. Dan Hibiki 13.53% - Round 1 6.64% 10. Jak 33.20% vs. Chie Satonaka 26.34% - Round 1 6.86% Top 10 Smallest Night Vote Gaps 1. Tharja 11016 vs. Tiny Tina 10753 Round 1 263 2. Captain Viridian 3128 vs. Peacock 2685 Round 1 443 3. Isaac 4443 vs. Tingle 3463 Round 1 980 4. Crash Bandicoot 11242 vs. Wheatley 9702 Round 1 1540 5. Midna 6922 vs. Little Mac 5098 Round 1 1824 6. Poison 8157 vs. Thrall 6277 Round 1 1880 7. Elizabeth 10217 vs. Poison 8157 Round 1 2060 8. Tiny Tina 10753 vs. Juliet Starling 8651 Round 1 2102 9. Phoenix Wright 11914 vs. Marth 9699 Round 1 2215 10. Tharja 11016 vs. Juliet Starling 8651 Round 1 2365 Top 5 Least Impressive Night Winners 1. Elizabeth Round 1 10217 2. Tharja Round 1 11016 3. Crash Bandicoot Round 1 11242 4. Phoenix Wright Round 1 11914 5. Sub-Zero Round 1 13612 Top 10 Most Impressive Night Losers 1. Jak Round 1 13191 2. Garrus Vakarian Round 1 11143 3. Tiny Tina Round 1 10753 4. Chie Satonaka Round 1 10465 5. Wheatley Round 1 9702 6. Marth Round 1 9699 7. Juliet Starling Round 1 8651 8. Lucina Round 1 8227 9. Poison Round 1 8157 10. Solaire of Astora Round 1 7620 Top 10 Least Predictable Matches 1. Draven vs. Jak vs. Chie Satonaka Round 1 38.19% 2. Crash Bandicoot vs. Wheatley vs. Tommy Vercetti Round 1 40.90% 3. Tharja vs. Tiny Tina vs. Juliet Starling Round 1 42.49% 4. Morrigan Aensland vs. Miles Edgeworth vs. Agent 47 Round 1 45.15% 5. Barret Wallace vs. Professor Layton vs. Reimu Hakurei Round 1 51.28% 6. The Boss vs. Chrom vs. Heavy Round 1 52.99% 7. Sub-Zero vs. Garrus Vakarian vs. Frank West Round 1 58.54% 8. Vincent Valentine vs. KOS-MOS vs. Dunban Round 1 61.03% 9. Phoenix Wright vs. Marth vs. Nightmare Round 1 64.74% 9. Ness vs. Locke Cole vs. CATS Round 1 64.74% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 23/26 Today's Picks: Vercetti and Solid Snake |
Pikachu
making it to the semi would require everything to work in his favor.
(Pikachu > Crono, Blue > Fox, Drake winning his match 2, Pikachu
> Sora) Not entirely implausible but just one mishap is enough to stop him dead in the tracks --- The cycle of life and death continues. We will live. And they will die. |
So
Snake is exceeding stat expectations against Isaac despite Isaac
getting a new game last contest while Snake has gotten an army of HD
collections. Honestly dunno what to say. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
ChenKenichiFan posted... I'd say Charizard. There is no doubt in my mind that if he needed to, Link could turn up the heat and triple Mario. That could possibly happen if we see another case of Last Place Factor and the majority of voters ignoring Mario to vote for either Link or Cloud. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I like how a large portion of which bracket will win boils down to f***ing Magus/Otacon. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Snake's contest victory begins now --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
LinkMarioSamus posted... So Snake is exceeding stat expectations against Isaac despite Isaac getting a new game last contest while Snake has gotten an army of HD collections. Honestly dunno what to say. As I said before I don't think Dark Dawn gave him any kind of boost If anything,I liked the Golden Sun series alot more before,when I had high hopes for a sequal...rather than that good-for-nothing game that was Dark Dawn TBH I don't even care if there won't be GS4 now |
Snake > Isaac almost perfectly lining up with winter 2010 x-stats. --- ... as if rights are like muscles - the more you use it, the better it gets. Indeed he may be exercising his first amendment-- but he's an IDIOT! - A. Scalia |
Question How many people got Crash 1st right? |
Not_Wylvane posted... I like how a large portion of which bracket will win boils down to f***ing Magus/Otacon. I have Pikachu > Crono even with Otacon in that match. Also I have a feeling that all this doom and gloom speculation about all the LFF in Crono's division will end up being unwarranted. --- Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC |
Nanis23 posted... Question me |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Not as big as Brawl for Snake. The Brawl trailer lit up the internet. You don't get exposure like that often. Snake turned went from 48% on Mega Man in 2005 (the 2004 number has never been legit, much like the Bowser match, which keeps burning people) to 55% in 2006. Snake also lost to Samus that year with 46%; he has never looked worse than her post-MGS4 and is judging by the Cloud match is worth a good 52% on her now. This 'Snake gets all his real strength from Brawl' is a zombie that really needs to die. At this rate beating Samus or Mario straight up probably isn't gonna cut it for some people. Snake punching Link in the mouth wasn't enough to settle this? --- sig |
Snake's 2004 loss to Mega Man wasn't legit, but his 2005 X-stats value is? --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
ChenKenichiFan posted... Snake's 2004 loss to Mega Man wasn't legit, but his 2005 X-stats value is? Uh, yeah. This is obvious and what I thought was accepted by the board more or less universally now. http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/sc2k4/sum04b58.jpg Unless we don't think *this* is an extreme gauge of pic factor anymore. --- sig |
whoa Isaac you are weak --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Fr0zoN posted... Nanis23 posted...Question Yeah I was more into predication precentage |
What's
this argument even about? MGS4 is somehow almost as relevant to Snake
as Brawl or something? If so, we'll just agree to disagree. And by
disagree, I mean DISAGREE MORE THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER DISAGREED ABOUT. Seriously I'm ready to disagree with this at 2005 Stats Topic argument levels. --- http://i.imgur.com/a4GuDV3.gif |
pjbasis posted... whoa Isaac you are weak Having turbofodder like Keen in this match really hides the fact that Snake isn't over performing on Isaac by much if you go by 2010 numbers. Either Snake lost a step form 2010 or Charizard is legit and Zelda/Mega Man are going to lose. |
tgs2 posted... pjbasis posted...whoa Isaac you are weak Dude, that numbers was extrapolated through Mario/Link. If you think Mario didn't get SFFd by Link in that match, then feel free to use that raw x-stats. Geez --- The cycle of life and death continues. We will live. And they will die. |
tgs2 posted... Drake is facing Steve and Pac-man. Unless he is 2013's Ocelot, he should coast to round 2. Unless who is 2013's Ocelot, and is there anything out there that points to a coast for Drake..? --- "i am pretty sure 3-year old children would generate more thoughtful discussion than board 8 on any topic of sexism" - Naye745 |
ChenKenichiFan posted... What's this argument even about? MGS4 is somehow almost as relevant to Snake as Brawl or something? If so, we'll just agree to disagree. And by disagree, I mean DISAGREE MORE THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER DISAGREED ABOUT. I suppose. My main contention is that we have about one match even suggesting that Snake might get his strength sapped from Brawl - the Samus match, and assuming Samus = Mario it's not like he didn't pop up a big amount against her anyway from 2005 to 2006. Every single other non-sprite match he's had, ever, including against quasi-Nintendo entities like Mega Man and Sonic, he's never lost a step. It's reallllly similar to when people argued Snake would get made to look like fodder against Cloud and Seph back in the day because MGS was so low on the Sony pecking order relative to FF7. We all saw how that worked out - and at the end of the day, Snake gets the overwhelming majority of his strength from Metal Gear. --- sig |
Obviously
Snake gets a majority of his strength from MGS, but Brawl is the
difference between Snake hoping to take advantage of a Sephiroth drop
this year and being a viable contender for #2. In terms of the
right-after-Link-tier, yes, Snake is only there because of Brawl. |
This is exactly what Snake should be getting on Isaac, jeez guys. No one is doomed one way or another by this match. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
The
only thing this match says is the same thing Luigi and Big Boss already
showed: anti-blowoutFAQs is a myth, FFVII is just getting hit worse
than ever by anti-votes. |
MarioSuperstar posted... tgs2 posted...Drake is facing Steve and Pac-man. Unless he is 2013's Ocelot, he should coast to round 2. Eh. I worded myself horribly there. I was trying to say Drake could end up repeating what happened in 2005 by choking horribly against Pac-man like Ocelot did back then. |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Obviously Snake gets a majority of his strength from MGS, but Brawl is the difference between Snake hoping to take advantage of a Sephiroth drop this year and being a viable contender for #2. In terms of the right-after-Link-tier, yes, Snake is only there because of Brawl. I'm not disputing that at all. No one welcomes that fact more than me! What gets me is this entrenched philosophy - taken as literal stats gospel by I'd guess at least half the stats topic - that Snake simply cannot compete with the top tier because Brawl's strength automatically turns into a weakness for him. He'd still have that stigma with his MGS strength against Cloud and Sephiroth too, but again we saw how that worked out. --- sig |
FranzyvonKarma posted... The only thing this match says is the same thing Luigi and Big Boss already showed: anti-blowoutFAQs is a myth, FFVII is just getting hit worse than ever by anti-votes. and Link? if Snake can get 71% against Golden Sun Isaac and Keen, Link should get much higher against Tingle and the crappy Isaac seems like FF7 and Link are getting anti voted --- ... |
abdou posted... FranzyvonKarma posted...The only thing this match says is the same thing Luigi and Big Boss already showed: anti-blowoutFAQs is a myth, FFVII is just getting hit worse than ever by anti-votes. Well yeah, that goes without saying. The only match Cloud looked really *good* in the entire last character battle was against Link! --- sig |
Karma Hunter posted... ChenKenichiFan posted...Snake's 2004 loss to Mega Man wasn't legit, but his 2005 X-stats value is? Mega Man might have overperformed slightly with that match pic, but nothing more than a percentage or two. Unless Snake was under performing by the same amount against Knuckles, the numbers add up if you look at Knuckles/Kefka's X-Stat values that year. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. |
abdou posted... FranzyvonKarma posted...The only thing this match says is the same thing Luigi and Big Boss already showed: anti-blowoutFAQs is a myth, FFVII is just getting hit worse than ever by anti-votes. This. Isaac(Golden Sun) >>> Isaac (Binding), Tingle >> Keen. No one's saying that Snake would beat Link 1vs1 or anything but he certainly looks good here. --- Zinsanity of the Helix Board |
Based
on Round 1, I would say that Snake, Mega Man X, and Sonic all performed
better than Link. Not just relatively better, but flat-out
statistically better as well. Doesn't mean they would beat Link, but his Round 1 performance was pretty uninspired all things considered. Link's actually been looking pretty bad since 2010, we just haven't paid much attention to it because he still can't be beaten. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
ZinsanityCraze posted... abdou posted...FranzyvonKarma posted...The only thing this match says is the same thing Luigi and Big Boss already showed: anti-blowoutFAQs is a myth, FFVII is just getting hit worse than ever by anti-votes. Tingle might be a lot stronger than Keen, but the fact that he didn't *look* about as weak as him still defies explanation. Does Tingle have an actual fanbase that explains why Link didn't grind him into low single digits? --- sig |
Tingle gets joke votes while Keen has no reason to. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
I
think Thrall turning out to be worthless shows that getting 20% on Link
is simply not that hard anymore thanks to heavy anti-voting. Probably
means Alucard overperformed in 2010 too, hmm... --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
Falcon > Alucard here we come --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Kotetsu534 posted... I think Thrall turning out to be worthless shows that getting 20% on Link is simply not that hard anymore thanks to heavy anti-voting. Probably means Alucard overperformed in 2010 too, hmm... If we're going that route, then Magus looks like a COMPLETE turd in 2010. I'm okay with this. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
The
idea that Snake still has any of that 'Brawl' power left, and somehow
has a big chunk of his strength today owed to Nintendo, is pretty crazy.
Snake can go head to head with any Nintendo character and not suffer in
any meaningful way. Snake boosted from all around exposure, and MGS
being a huge deal at the time, but we're past all that hype now and what
you're left with are Snake fans, who aren't gonna bail at the first
sign of a Nintendo character. Seems silly to still bring up Brawl. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
ZFS posted... The idea that Snake still has any of that 'Brawl' power left, and somehow has a big chunk of his strength today owed to Nintendo, is pretty crazy. Maybe not a "big" chunk (although that term is subjective, because he'd probably be just a bit above Sonic/Mega Man instead of his current ability to give them somewhere near a 60/40 pounding), but certainly a meaningful one. A part of Snake is tied to Nintendo now. I don't see what's crazy about that when both Sonic and Mega Man are generally considered to be adopted members of the Nintendo family. Snake is in the same game as Link, Mario, Kirby, and Pikachu, and it's an enormous game that assuredly appeals to people who weren't too into the character or his series before. Up until a few weeks ago, even Mega Man wasn't as connected to Nintendo in such an explicit way. --- Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer) http://i.imgur.com/NQTthNf.jpg |
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