Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1070

#201 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/21/2013 6:45:09 AM | message detail
Big game hype is one thing. Three things released very recently is another. Also, day match.
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#202 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/21/2013 6:46:54 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Dude, it's Peach. Who seriously cares about her?


I think this is the logic people used when they picked Jill Valentine to win over her
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#203 | Baseman (Moderator) | Posted 7/21/2013 6:47:22 AM | message detail
That word that is short for transsexual is considered an offensive slur here. Don't ask me why, but that's how we enforce it.
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#204 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/21/2013 6:49:19 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Dude, it's Peach. Who seriously cares about her?


I think this is the logic people used when they picked Jill Valentine to win over her


Jill would smoke her today though. And Peach is against a major character from her own company.
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#205 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/21/2013 6:54:17 AM | message detail
Match XXVI: (4) Kirby vs. (15) Terra Branford vs. (24) Princess Peach

Previous Contest

Kirby – 2010
57.53% against Rikku
68.40% against GlaDOS
57.63% against Vivi
45.39% against Sonic the Hedgehog

Terra Branford – 2010
53.87% against Darth Revan
35.48% against Squall Leonhart

Princess Peach – 2010
46.75% against Gordon Freeman

Analysis

Kirby should have no problem winning this match even with Peach in the poll. The only way I see him losing is if Squall SFF Terra in 2010 and Peach really holds Kirby back. It is not a crazy set of circumstances, but it is specific and not likely to happen. If anything Kirby could SFF Peach quite badly here as Peach is one of those characters where people know, but few love.

On the other hand Mario and Kirby characters have had a hard time SFF each other. Bowser and Luigi never crushed Kirby and Meta Knight could not SFF Peach back in 2007. Kirby SFF Donkey Kong a bit in 2007 so maybe it requires a large difference in strength which we have here.

One thing I will be looking for is how well the Dissidia boost held up since 2010. While this may not be the best match to test it out due to LFF, but should Terra lose badly the boost may not be as strong anymore. I do not think there will be a large drop, but it is something to look out for.

While I feel confident of the order there is a large range where the characters can fall. Should Peach get a large hit of SFF Kirby could break 50%, but if not we could see him struggle to break 40% or even win the match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Kirby > Terra Branford and Princess Peach

charmander6000’s Prediction: Kirby – 46.34%, Terra Branford – 33.23%, Princess Peach – 20.43%
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#206 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2013 7:57:42 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Dude, it's Peach. Who seriously cares about her?


I think this is the logic people used when they picked Jill Valentine to win over her


Jill, uh, wins that match if the groupthink (and thus brackets) goes the other way.
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#207 | LordOfDabu | Posted 7/21/2013 8:17:50 AM | message detail
Baseman posted...
That word that is short for transsexual is considered an offensive slur here. Don't ask me why, but that's how we enforce it.


It's a slur anywhere, not just here...
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#208 | Baseman (Moderator) | Posted 7/21/2013 8:20:47 AM | message detail | (edited)
LordOfDabu posted...

It's a slur anywhere, not just here...


I always thought it was just short for transsexual. I never heard it being used as an insult until this website.
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#209 | Achromatic | Posted 7/21/2013 8:30:13 AM | message detail
Baseman posted...
LordOfDabu posted...

It's a slur anywhere, not just here...


I always thought it was just short for transsexual. I never heard it being used as an insult until this website.

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#210 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/21/2013 8:31:06 AM | message detail
It's understandable it was used as an insult back then, now not so much, but it still holds some meaning to some people.

It's like referring to a Japanese person as a "Jap" for short
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#211 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/21/2013 8:31:39 AM | message detail
Baseman in the Contests Stats and Discussion topic

I'm okay with this
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#212 | TheBeastWithin | Posted 7/21/2013 8:36:32 AM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
I got modded for literally calling the Chick who is also/might be a dude, The T word in 5 letters.


Seriously


Contest that. This site doesn't censor the word gay anymore, it certainly shouldn't be censoring the word transgendered. Just quote yesmar's post right below you, because he's gay himself and would be the first one to call anybody out for something like that.

Like, by censoring certain words they're kind of unintentionally telling the LGBT community that they're still not being treated normally. Not cool.


What kind of logic is that? If a group of people find a word offensive then they find it offensive. I'm positive it isn't offensive to you, but I'm also assuming you're not part of the group at issue here. So by this logic censoring the n word is telling black people they're not being treated normally, or censoring the f word is telling gay people they're not being treated normally? Huh?

It's not like they censor the word transgender, just one shortened aspect of it that some people in that community might feel is derogatory.
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#213 | spooky96 | Posted 7/21/2013 8:40:55 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
It's understandable it was used as an insult back then, now not so much, but it still holds some meaning to some people.

It's like referring to a Japanese person as a "Jap" for short


I asked some mods once. In some way, using jap for japanese people can be modded, and in someways, it won't be modded.

I don't remember the reason though. It was something like if we used it in a sentence as a adjective/noun (WHAT AM I SAYING? THIS IS FIRST GRADE GRAMMAR AND IM IN DOUBT).

So if we used it in the word jap in X way, it won't be modded, but if we used jap in Y way, it will be modded.
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#214 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/21/2013 8:44:38 AM | message detail
That ruling is actually outdated. It's not allowed at all anymore.
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#215 | spooky96 | Posted 7/21/2013 8:52:05 AM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
That ruling is actually outdated. It's not allowed at all anymore.


Oh I see. Thanks for the info update TRE.
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#216 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/21/2013 8:57:50 AM | message detail
This site's archaic rules never cease to amaze me. How is it that for all of these years, noone has been moderated for calling transcience tranny?
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#217 | abdou | Posted 7/21/2013 8:59:32 AM | message detail
and didn't gamefaqs " relax" their rules couple of yrs ago? and something like that still get modded ..lol
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#218 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:00:18 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Kirby
60%
3 Votes

Terra Branford
20%
1 Votes

Princess Peach
20%
1 Votes
Your Pick
Total Votes: 5
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#219 | spooky96 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:00:58 AM | message detail
Terra looking good.
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#220 | Kibago | Posted 7/21/2013 9:01:05 AM | message detail
I got a 15-9-3 Terra winning screenshot, I'm happy.
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#221 | tgs2 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:01:10 AM | message detail
While I feel bad for Peach here, Terra is doing amazing
#222 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/21/2013 9:01:11 AM | message detail
Go Terra!
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#223 | VideoboysaysCube | Posted 7/21/2013 9:01:20 AM | message detail
Uh oh. This is much too close.
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#224 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:01:27 AM | message detail
Jesus Christ, Peach
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#225 | 2Dover3D | Posted 7/21/2013 9:01:34 AM | message detail
die kirby die
#226 | spooky96 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:01:55 AM | message detail
For a second Kirby was 43 and Terra was 42...
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#227 | abdou | Posted 7/21/2013 9:02:10 AM | message detail
and I was worried if Terra can finish second!
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#228 | Kibago | Posted 7/21/2013 9:02:11 AM | message detail
uhm...
does Kirby have a good board vote?
better than FF6, right?
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#229 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:09 AM | message detail
Wow..Terra is..omg..
#230 | Luis_Sera89 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:09 AM | message detail
This board would never allow Kirby to lose the early vote.
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#231 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:19 AM | message detail
Also, is Luigi *seriously* being considered the favorite over Big Boss? Big Boss kicked the ever-loving s*** out of Kirby and Lucas combined back in fourways, and Luigi's gonna have Ness holding him back. With MGS5's buzz... I just don't see it.
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#232 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:19 AM | message detail
Kirby's gonna beat Sephiroth guys
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#233 | Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:31 AM | message detail
TERROR BALTIMORE
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#234 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:32 AM | message detail
so that Kirby > Seph talk can stop now right
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#235 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:39 AM | message detail
Woah, TERROR BALTIMORE is kickin ass
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#236 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:03:50 AM | message detail
Locke collapsed between the freeze and the first real update. It's possible the same thing will happen here.
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#237 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/21/2013 9:04:07 AM | message detail
So, Fox > Blue?
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#238 | legendmusketeer | Posted 7/21/2013 9:04:26 AM | message detail
Go Terra!
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#239 | tgs2 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:04:55 AM | message detail
I think Kirby lost the board vote...

Whiskey_Nick posted...
so that Kirby > Seph talk can stop now right


You could make an argument that FF6 isn't as heavily antivoted as FF7 and might be getting a small nostalgia boost considering how old the game is now.
#240 | VeryInsane | Posted 7/21/2013 9:04:57 AM | message detail
FF6 generally has a great board vote for some reason.
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#241 | superange128 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:05:31 AM | message detail
Hah and people were saying Terra had "0" chance of winning in Tinychat

If she can keep it close I can see terra winning with the night vote
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#242 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/21/2013 9:06:21 AM | message detail
Locke's bad board vote was probably because he was up against two of the best board votes in the contest.
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#243 | ninkendo | Posted 7/21/2013 9:06:59 AM | message detail
VeryInsane posted...
FF6 generally has a great board vote for some reason.


being the best Final Fantasy would do that!
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#244 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/21/2013 9:07:37 AM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
24------64----------79.69
23------270--------83.33
22------581--------76.76
21------1054------70.21
20------1582------67.38
19------2061------69.19
18------2219------70.17
17------2121------68.51
16------1643------66.95
15------1263------62.63
14------851--------57.46
13------500--------53.40
12------345--------50.43
11------248--------50.81
10------174--------51.72
9--------95----------42.11
8--------61----------26.23
7--------39----------30.77
6--------27----------37.04
5--------11----------36.36
4--------7------------57.14
3--------5------------40.00
2--------16----------0.00
1--------5------------20.00
0--------12----------0.00

Once again it's the -1s that do better than the perfects. Other than that we get the usual higher scoring brackets doing better than lower ones.

9 people fell off the Top 49. Former third place ahirsch101, alf53405, chaos_knight, DailyFacade7, fcos, Gneseuk, Gooper_Blooper, metroidcomposit and Mr_Hangman did not have Elizabeth winning.
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#245 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 7/21/2013 9:07:41 AM | message detail
superange128 posted...
Hah and people were saying Terra had "0" chance of winning in Tinychat

If she can keep it close I can see terra winning with the night vote


I say lots of things
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#246 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/21/2013 9:09:23 AM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
I think Kirby lost the board vote...

Whiskey_Nick posted...
so that Kirby > Seph talk can stop now right


You could make an argument that FF6 isn't as heavily antivoted as FF7 and might be getting a small nostalgia boost considering how old the game is now.


It's Terra Branford. It's like arguing someone can beat Link after struggling with, like, Yoshi.
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#247 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/21/2013 9:09:25 AM | message detail
What's scary is that if Peach hadn't fallen into the low teens and hovered around 20% Terra would probably be winning this handily.
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#248 | ShatteredElysium | Posted 7/21/2013 9:11:12 AM | message detail
It's not like Kirby was projected to absolutely godstomp her or anything. It was like what? 59/41 ish if it was 1 vs 1?
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#249 | Kibago | Posted 7/21/2013 9:12:48 AM | message detail
and there it is.
ah well. at least she was scary for a few minutes!
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#250 | Whiskey_Nick | Posted 7/21/2013 9:13:18 AM | message detail
well so much for that being close
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