Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1069

#401 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:15:12 AM | message detail
CATS moving on up~
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#402 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/20/2013 9:15:31 AM | message detail
Ness shoots up like a rocket and Locke barely gains on CATS.

Next.
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#403 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/20/2013 9:15:38 AM | message detail
Kefka is known for having a strong board vote, as far as Final Fantasy goes. Kefka is one of the few exceptions to this rule. I wouldn't expect Locke to have the same board vote that Kefka has, only because you have CATS and Ness in the match.
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#404 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 9:16:31 AM | message detail
Thrall needs a better pic! >,<
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#405 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:16:33 AM | message detail
So Big Boss match would be the only one that the perfects and -1 had it correct but only 1 guy from the -1 didn't?That would be fun to see.
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#406 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/20/2013 9:17:16 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Kefka is known for having a strong board vote, as far as Final Fantasy goes. Kefka is one of the few exceptions to this rule. I wouldn't expect Locke to have the same board vote that Kefka has, only because you have CATS and Ness in the match.


How about other old Square characters like Terra or Cecil?
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#407 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:17:41 AM | message detail
Most of the Expert Leaderboard seems to have picked Peacock > Viridian.
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#408 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:18:31 AM | message detail
So in the next match it will be close between Big Boss and Luigi correct?I have Big Boss myself.
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#409 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/20/2013 9:18:32 AM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
CrushDavis posted...
Ness gained a total of 7 votes in the final 3 minutes... Knowing how terrible FF boards vote is and how great Smashs is... oh man this might be good


Old Square's board vote? I may be rusty on this but I don't remember old Square having a bad board vote.


I woulda guessed it would still be worse than a Smash character and CATS.. doesn't really makes sense to me he's dropping since the board vote.
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#410 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/20/2013 9:21:03 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
So Big Boss match would be the only one that the perfects and -1 had it correct but only 1 guy from the -1 didn't?That would be fun to see.


Actually this is the second time this has happened this contest. We lost one -1 and no perfects on Sephiroth's match as well.
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#411 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/20/2013 9:22:10 AM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
How about other old Square characters like Terra or Cecil?


I looked at our last contest and their board vote is average at best. Terra had 54.30% at the freeze against Darth Revan and ended the match with 53.87%. Against Squall, Terra obviously has a much better board vote because of Squall anti-votes.

Cecil had 47.45% against Knuckles at the freeze and ended the match with 48.00%.
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#412 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:22:17 AM | message detail
So a guy failed on Sephiroth?Favorite bracket then.It would be fun to see to tell the truth.
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#413 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/20/2013 9:23:36 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
How about other old Square characters like Terra or Cecil?


I looked at our last contest and their board vote is average at best. Terra had 54.30% at the freeze against Darth Revan and ended the match with 53.87%.


So basically, Terras board vote was barely better than a WRPG character. Thats not really a ringing endorsement.
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#414 | armitage999 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:30:09 AM | message detail
One of these days a non-FFVII Final Fantasy character will rock in a Character Battle
#415 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:30:53 AM | message detail
armitage999 posted...
One of these days a non-FFVII Final Fantasy character will rock in a Character Battle


Squall and Auron have been pretty good for about a decade...!
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#416 | armitage999 | Posted 7/20/2013 9:33:33 AM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
armitage999 posted...
One of these days a non-FFVII Final Fantasy character will rock in a Character Battle


Squall and Auron have been pretty good for about a decade...!


True, but in Auron's case, I'm like "Do better against the top tier dudes!"

He probably has dobe great against those characters but I don't remember.
#417 | UItimaterializer | Posted 7/20/2013 9:44:19 AM | message detail
Glad my Locke picture got chosen
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#418 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/20/2013 9:45:06 AM | message detail
UItimaterializer posted...
Glad my Locke picture got chosen


What have you done? D:
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#419 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/20/2013 9:45:32 AM | message detail
Squall's notable feats:

-60-40'ing Luigi in 2003 (now that would probably be more like 55-45)
-SFFing Tidus in 2006
-Breaking 40% on Steroid Snake in 2006
-Coming close to beating Sonic twice in 2007
-60-40'ing Yoshi in 2008
-Narrow win over Auron in 2010
-Breaking 40% on Steroid Snake again in 2010

Auron's notable feats:

-Uh, does murdering Scorpion more easily than expected in 2004 count?
-Getting 45% on Crono in 2006, albeit a weakening Crono
-Destroying all of his R1/R2 competition in 2007 including the likes of Ryu and Bowser, coming close to beating Ryu when SFFd by Cloud in R3 (however, I feel that this was more his competition being weaker than expected)
-Beating Sonic with surprising ease in 2008, then beating Kratos the next round while being SFFd by Sephiroth

Pretty clear who has the more impressive contest history. I'll also throw in Vincent for show:

-Proving Kerrigan is fodder in 2005
-Narrowly upsetting Squall in 2005, followed by 45% on the eventual runner-up
-Narrowly upsetting Ganondorf in 2006, followed by putting 47% on Sonic
-Narrowly upsetting Crono in 2007 after beating Zelda far more easily than expected in R1

Honestly, with Vincent I just throw out the first three results since that's when we still didn't really know how strong he was. Or at least that's my rationale for the "Vincent has never done anything impressive in these contests aside from upsetting Crono in lol 4-ways" idea earlier.
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#420 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/20/2013 9:47:40 AM | message detail
Ulti did a good job with the Locke pic considering there's really no non-Amano art out there.
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#421 | LOLContests | Posted 7/20/2013 9:48:39 AM | message detail
Taking a quick look at non-Kefka/CT matches:

FF1 barely won the Board Vote against Contra
FF1 lost the Board Vote against SMB3
FFVI won the Board Vote against Doom
FFVI won the Board Vote against LttP
Ultros lost the Board Vote to Dr. Wily (albeit Mega Man characters always die off around that time anyway)
Terra won the Board Vote against Dante
Cecil won the Board Vote against Kirby
Celes won the Board Vote against The Boss
Terra won the Board Vote against Kerrigan
Terra lost the Board Vote against Zelda
Cecil kind of lost the Board Vote in 2008, although not relative to Zack.
Kain Highwind lost the Board Vote in 2008
Rydia kind of won the Board Vote in 2008
FF1 lost the Board Vote a little in 2009 R1
FFIV lost the Board Vote in 2009 R1
FFIV kind of went even with the Board Vote in 2009 R2
FF1 lost the Board Vote a little in 2009 R2
FFIV won the Board vote in 2009 R3
FFVI lost the Board Vote in 2009 R4
None of FFVI's other 2009 matches are available on GameFAQScontests for some reason
Cecil lost the Board Vote against Knuckles
Terra barely won the Board Vote against Revan
Terra won the Board Vote against Squall
Terra/Kefka won the Board Vote against Vyse/Galcian
Terra/Kefka lost the Board Vote against Samus/Ridley

Not all of these are large victories/losses mind you.
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#422 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/20/2013 9:58:04 AM | message detail
Number of contest matches each veteran first-round loser has been in (not including Rivalry Rumble):

Tingle - 3
Captain Olimar - 3
Kain - 2
Jak - 4
Yuri Lowell - 2
Fei Fong Wong - 2
Professor Layton - 3
Marth - 5
Nightmare - 5
KOS-MOS - 10
Heavy - 3
Frank West - 3
Meta-Knight - 5
Midna - 6
Little Mac - 3
Miles Edgeworth - 4
Agent 47 - 3
Balthier - 5
Jade - 2
CATS - 8

All hail CATS. Or not?
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#423 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/20/2013 10:39:47 AM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Biggest Blowouts
1. Mewtwo – 81.80% vs. Chester – 3.51% - Round 1 – 78.29%
2. Mewtwo – 81.80% vs. Zero – 14.69% - Round 1 – 67.11%
3. Big Boss – 74.89% vs. Peacock – 11.60% - Round 1 – 63.29%
4. Big Boss – 74.89% vs. Captain Viridian – 13.51% - Round 1 – 61.38%

5. Link – 72.67% vs. Tingle – 11.97% - Round 1 – 60.70%
6. Link – 72.67% vs. Isaac – 15.36% - Round 1 – 57.31%
7. Mega Man X – 65.22% vs. Welkin Gunther – 10.76% - Round 1 – 54.46%
8. Sonic the Hedgehog – 66.30% vs. Dan Hibiki – 13.53% - Round 1 – 52.77%
9. Luigi – 64.69% vs. Jade – 12.24% - Round 1 – 52.45%
10. Dracula – 58.63% vs. Caim – 6.69% - Round 1 – 51.94%

Top 10 Largest Night Vote Gaps
1. Mewtwo – 21525 vs. Chester – 924 – Round 1 – 20601
2. Mewtwo – 21525 vs. Zero – 3866 – Round 1 – 17659
3. Link – 21024 vs. Tingle – 3463 – Round 1 – 17561
4. Link – 21024 vs. Isaac – 4443 – Round 1 – 16581
5. Mega Man X – 18171 vs. Welkin Gunther – 2999 – Round 1 – 15172
6. Big Boss – 17337 vs. Peacock – 2685 – Round 1 – 14652
7. Big Boss – 17337 vs. Captain Viridian – 3128 – Round 1 – 14209

8. Yoshi – 18306 vs. Demi-Fiend – 4561 – Round 1 – 13745
9. Dracula – 13906 vs. Caim – 1586 – Round 1 – 12320
10. Mega Man X – 18171 vs. Jigglypuff – 6690 – Round 1 – 11481

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Tharja – 36.21% vs. Tiny Tina – 35.35% - Round 1 – 0.86%
2. Captain Viridian – 13.51% vs. Peacock – 11.60% - Round 1 – 1.91%
3. Hero – 25.76% vs. Rinoa Heartilly – 23.26% - Round 1 – 2.50%
4. Isaac – 15.36% vs. Tingle – 11.97% - Round 1 – 3.39%
5. Miles Edgeworth – 28.18% vs. Agent 47 – 23.63% - Round 1 – 4.55%
6. Chrom – 29.78% vs. Heavy – 24.61% - Round 1 – 5.17%
7. Midna – 24.55% vs. Little Mac – 18.08% - Round 1 – 6.47%
8. Fei Fong Wong – 20.17% vs. Dan Hibiki – 13.53% - Round 1 – 6.64%
9. Jak – 33.20% vs. Chie Satonaka – 26.34% - Round 1 – 6.86%
10. Tiny Tina – 35.35% vs. Juliet Staling – 28.44% - Round 1 – 6.91%

Top 10 Smallest Night Vote Gaps
1. Tharja – 11016 vs. Tiny Tina – 10753 – Round 1 – 263
2. Captain Viridian – 3128 vs. Peacock – 2685 – Round 1 – 443
3. Isaac – 4443 vs. Tingle – 3463 – Round 1 – 980
4. Midna – 6922 vs. Little Mac – 5098 – Round 1 – 1824
5. Tiny Tina – 10753 vs. Juliet Starling – 8651 – Round 1 – 2102
6. Phoenix Wright – 11914 vs. Marth – 9699 – Round 1 – 2215
7. Tharja – 11016 vs. Juliet Starling – 8651 – Round 1 – 2365
8. Sub-Zero – 13612 vs. Garrus Vakarian – 11143 – Round 1 – 2469
9. Jak – 13191 vs. Chie Satonaka – 10465 – Round 1 – 2726
10. Draven – 16081 vs. Jak – 13191 – Round 1 – 2890

Top 5 Least Popular Night Polls
1. Big Boss vs. Captain Viridian vs. Peacock – Round 1 – 23150
2. Dracula vs. Lucina vs. Caim – Round 1 – 23719
3. Spyro the Dragon vs. Clementine vs. Reyn – Round 1 – 25235
4. Mewtwo vs. Zero vs. Chester – Round 1 – 26315
5. Phoenix Wright vs. Marth vs. Nightmare – Round 1 – 26893

Top 10 Highest Night Individual Votes
1. Mewtwo – Round 1 – 21525
2. Link – Round 1 – 21024
3. Yoshi – Round 1 – 18775
4. Mega Man X – Round 1 – 18171
5. Big Boss – Round 1 – 17337
6. Sephiroth – Round 1 – 16179
7. Draven – Round 1 – 16081
8. Spyro the Dragon – Round 1 – 14341
9. Dracula – Round 1 – 13906
10. Sub-Zero – Round 1 – 13612
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#424 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/20/2013 10:39:52 AM | message detail
Top 10 Lowest Night Individual Votes
1. Chester – Round 1 – 924
2. Caim – Round 1 – 1586
3. Peacock – Round 1 – 2685
4. Welkin Gunther – Round 1 – 2999
5. Frank West – Round 1 – 3015
6. Captain Viridian – Round 1 – 3128
7. Reyn – Round 1 – 3332
8. Tingle – Round 1 – 3463
9. Zero – Round 1 – 3866
10. Isaac – Round 1 – 4443

Top 10 Most Predictable Matches
1. Link vs. Isaac vs. Tingle – Round 1 – 97.59%
2. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Fei Fong Wong vs. Dan Hibiki – Round 1 – 93.84%
3. Big Boss vs. Captain Viridian vs. Peacock – Round 1 – 92.57%
4. Sephiroth vs. Midna vs. Little Mac – Round 1 – 91.37%
5. Luigi vs. Balthier Bunansa vs. Jade – Round 1 – 89.13%
6. Mewtwo vs. Zero vs. Chester – Round 1 – 89.06%
7. Mega Man X vs. Jigglypuff vs. Welkin Gunther – Round 1 – 84.25%
8. Yoshi vs. Solaire of Astora vs. Demi-Fiend – Round 1 – 83.77%
9. Commander Shepard vs. Captain Olimar vs. Kain – Round 1 – 82.56%
10. Ryu vs. Yuri Lowell vs. Face McShooty – Round 1 – 82.06%
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Points: 19/22 Today's Picks: Big Boss and Ness
#425 | Swarles_Barkley | Posted 7/20/2013 10:45:58 AM | message detail
armitage999 posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
armitage999 posted...
One of these days a non-FFVII Final Fantasy character will rock in a Character Battle


Squall and Auron have been pretty good for about a decade...!


True, but in Auron's case, I'm like "Do better against the top tier dudes!"

He probably has dobe great against those characters but I don't remember.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3290
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#426 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/20/2013 10:51:28 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Magus will take a dive for the sake of Crono. He'll lose on purpose.

It's totally not because he's a disappointing failure, okay


If he were really a bro, he'd win so that Crono has an excuse for losing a match that he's going to lose anyway.

But on to more pressing matters: How much do we expect out of Elizabeth?
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#427 | UItimaterializer | Posted 7/20/2013 10:55:58 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
UItimaterializer posted...
Glad my Locke picture got chosen


What have you done? D:


Have you SEEN how bad the rest of lockes official art is?
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#428 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/20/2013 10:56:47 AM | message detail
#429 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 10:57:56 AM | message detail
What if Crono beats Pikachu even with Magus there?

Really, if Fox > Blue then Crono > Pikachu.
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#430 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 7/20/2013 10:58:34 AM | message detail
This is pretty much the best possible Locke pic. Well done, Ulti. I really don't get the hate for that pic.
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#431 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/20/2013 10:59:30 AM | message detail | (edited)
WAIT FORGET IT IT IS NOT THE SPRITE ROUND

go go pikachu
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#432 | WhiteLens | Posted 7/20/2013 10:59:51 AM | message detail
I have not been keeping up due as of late, but when did Allen and Devin lose their perfect?
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#433 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 10:59:51 AM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
Crono/Pikachu/Magus will be the sprite round

Crono looks suuuuuper good when he's a sprite


No, that'll be in Round 2 - still a 12 hour match.
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#434 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 11:00:35 AM | message detail
WhiteLens posted...
I have not been keeping up due as of late, but when did Allen and Devin lose their perfect?


I think they had either Clementine or Reyn.
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#435 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/20/2013 11:00:53 AM | message detail
Blue's strength or lack of it doesn't really mean anything for Pikachu. Pokemon is about the Pokemon. It's nice if the human characters do well but it shouldn't be surprising if they completely drop the ball.
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#436 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/20/2013 11:02:21 AM | message detail
I don't know why people are taking N > Bayonetta. Bayonetta has that "oh yeah I recognize her from the name of her game" factor. PokeFEAR shouldn't apply to the humans.

also bayonetta is probably going to get a magnificent ass pic
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#437 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 11:02:29 AM | message detail
Let's talk about the next match. Why did I pick Thrall? I don't know, his pic is horrible. Wouldn't surprise me if he finished 3rd with that green monkey pic.
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#438 | UItimaterializer | Posted 7/20/2013 11:02:47 AM | message detail
Didn't realize there was hate for the pic. Been very busy this week, not paying attention to "the buzz".
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#439 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 11:04:27 AM | message detail
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5167.jpg
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#440 | Crimson Dragoon | Posted 7/20/2013 11:06:40 AM | message detail
yeah thrall got that

instead of something like this

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101017183203/wowwiki/images/2/2e/Thrall_magazine_cover.jpg

which I was banking on
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#441 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 11:12:11 AM | message detail
Or this

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/9/91062/1410539-thrall.jpg
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#442 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/20/2013 11:13:53 AM | message detail
Let's talk about the next match. Why did I pick Thrall? I don't know, his pic is horrible. Wouldn't surprise me if he finished 3rd with that green monkey pic.

Big Daddy > Elizabeth?
Big Daddy couldn't break 55% on Ness despite having Bioshock 2 released a couple of weeks earlier?
New characters flopping?
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#443 | Achromatic | Posted 7/20/2013 11:14:16 AM | message detail
Play WoW, picture isn't Thrall's problem.
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#444 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 11:14:41 AM | message detail
Think Poison might actually win. USF4

Bioshock characters though. Big Daddy did well, but was that just because of design and name?
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#445 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/20/2013 11:16:07 AM | message detail
Well, if it was Ness vs. Poison vs. Thrall, Ness would win.

Elizabeth > Poison > Thrall
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#446 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/20/2013 11:19:40 AM | message detail
I doubt Poison is nearly as strong as Big Daddy. The original Bioshock would easily beat Infinite in a poll. We're winding down this generation (actually, we've been winding it down for like two years) and the characters and games who'll end it (Elizabeth, Infinite) won't be as strong as the ones who began it (Big Daddy, Bioshock).
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#447 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/20/2013 11:20:24 AM | message detail
"Poison" should read "Elizabeth." Apparently I can't edit posts yet. lol gamefaqs
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#448 | WhiteLens | Posted 7/20/2013 11:22:14 AM | message detail
I feel like Poison would be a character to benefit from not being known to get votes based on pic (and yes because of TJF).

Generally the people who do know about her would also know about her whole censorship thing where Capcom made her a man, and that could weird out a lot of people.

But, cool USFIV art, looks like SBAllen will still use pics that come in now.
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#449 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/20/2013 11:27:39 AM | message detail
#450 | UItimaterializer | Posted 7/20/2013 11:41:27 AM | message detail
You crybaby WoW fans are classic. Delicious tears.

Liz was the favorite no matter the picture.
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