Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1068

#401 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/19/2013 1:49:11 PM | message detail
I'd say Clementine is more liked than Lee by the Walking Dead fanbase. And I just can't see Spyro beating Game and Watch or even Meat Boy.
---
Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner
#402 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/19/2013 1:49:35 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
It's the main character of one of the most popular and highly-regarded games of last year - A PLOT-DRIVEN GAME, NO LESS - vs. a late unlockable in Melee and Brawl who sucks ass in the former and loses out on joke appeal to the third entrant in the poll. There's probably more of a chance of Mr. Game & Watch losing to Meat Boy than beating Lee.

Even SSB fans who haven't played The Walking Dead or Super Meat Boy aren't guaranteed to vote for Mr. Game & Watch.


Popularity Contest.

I rest my case.


I don't see your point. That sounds more like evidence against Mr. Game & Watch winning.

I do kinda feel that Mr. Game & Watch could benefit from recognizability, but I just feel that SSB characters struggle with that - see also: Marth allowing Duke Nukem to come dangerously close to him and then not even putting up a fight the minute another Nintendo character showed up to leech him, and then Marth getting owned by Phoenix Wright this contest. It also feels similar to the deal with Yoshimitsu benefitting from recognizability against Groose - HOWEVER:

-Yoshimitsu is far more important to his games than Mr. Game & Watch is to his.
-Yoshimitsu gets extra points for The Badass Factor (TBF).
-Yoshimitsu is against a side character and...I have no idea what role Lu Bu plays in Dynasty Warriors. Mr. Game & Watch is, as I said, against the main character of two very popular games from the last few years.
---
Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC
#403 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/19/2013 1:52:31 PM | message detail | (edited)
I like how everyone's still treating Spyro like bottom-of-the-barrel fodder trash even after his big win.

Sometimes, previous stats are worthless. Here's the poster-boy for that fact:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Sotc_boxart.jpg
---
Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC
#404 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 7/19/2013 1:51:34 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
It's the main character of one of the most popular and highly-regarded games of last year - A PLOT-DRIVEN GAME, NO LESS - vs. a late unlockable in Melee and Brawl who sucks ass in the former and loses out on joke appeal to the third entrant in the poll. There's probably more of a chance of Mr. Game & Watch losing to Meat Boy than beating Lee.

Even SSB fans who haven't played The Walking Dead or Super Meat Boy aren't guaranteed to vote for Mr. Game & Watch.


Popularity Contest.

I rest my case.


I don't see your point.


Let me explain.

You can talk as much as you want about plot and character development, and the only thing that matters is that, on gamefaqs, SSB is way more popular than The Walking Dead.
#405 | Achromatic | Posted 7/19/2013 1:51:53 PM | message detail
Lu Bu is the destroyer of universes you will bow before his majesty.

Anyway they aren't popular enough on GameFAQs and Clementine just got smoked by Spyro. The fact you can still take Lee winning anything after Clementine got maimed is hilarious.
---
Death is not to be feared, but avoidance never hurt anyone.
http://i.imgur.com/hDIb02X.jpg
#406 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2013 1:52:41 PM | message detail
I have no clue who either of the opponents in the G&W match even are, and I'm fairly certain a majority of voters will share that similarity.

The only person I even gambled taking that I wasn't familiar with (other than Tharja, of whom I had no clue who anyone in her match was) was Elizabeth, and that's undoubtedly my shakiest pick remaining of the first round, and I'm worried sick about Thr-

-and now I see I have Booker winning his match. Was I even sober when I filled this bracket out
---
sig
#407 | Achromatic | Posted 7/19/2013 1:52:43 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
I like how everyone's still treating Spyro like bottom-of-the-barrel fodder trash even after his big win.


Well just because we broke through the barrel doesn't mean Spyro isn't at the bottom of said barrel.
---
Death is not to be feared, but avoidance never hurt anyone.
http://i.imgur.com/hDIb02X.jpg
#408 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/19/2013 1:53:23 PM | message detail
ZeldaTPLink posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
It's the main character of one of the most popular and highly-regarded games of last year - A PLOT-DRIVEN GAME, NO LESS - vs. a late unlockable in Melee and Brawl who sucks ass in the former and loses out on joke appeal to the third entrant in the poll. There's probably more of a chance of Mr. Game & Watch losing to Meat Boy than beating Lee.

Even SSB fans who haven't played The Walking Dead or Super Meat Boy aren't guaranteed to vote for Mr. Game & Watch.


Popularity Contest.

I rest my case.


I don't see your point.


Let me explain.

You can talk as much as you want about plot and character development, and the only thing that matters is that, on gamefaqs, SSB is way more popular than The Walking Dead.


You know what else SSB is way more popular than? Phoenix Wright. Didn't stop Marth from getting thrashed around by Phoenix.
---
Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC
#409 | Achromatic | Posted 7/19/2013 1:54:41 PM | message detail
Phoenix Wright would get 90% on Lee <_<.
---
Death is not to be feared, but avoidance never hurt anyone.
http://i.imgur.com/hDIb02X.jpg
#410 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/19/2013 1:55:57 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I have no clue who either of the opponents in the G&W match even are, and I'm fairly certain a majority of voters will share that similarity.

The only person I even gambled taking that I wasn't familiar with (other than Tharja, of whom I had no clue who anyone in her match was) was Elizabeth, and that's undoubtedly my shakiest pick remaining of the first round, and I'm worried sick about Thr-

-and now I see I have Booker winning his match. Was I even sober when I filled this bracket out


If you've kept up with modern gaming at all you should at least know who Meat Boy is.

Then again, me having actually played Super Meat Boy recently (while not having unlocked Mr. Game & Watch in my ongoing "unlock as much stuff in Brawl as possible" playthrough) is probably making my statement a bit biased.
---
Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC
#411 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/19/2013 1:56:07 PM | message detail
#412 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/19/2013 1:56:56 PM | message detail
You are ignoring 4 message(s) from users on this page. Manage your list here.
---
You know who's sexy? Black Turtle, the 2010 Games Contest Guru Winner, that's who!
#413 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/19/2013 1:57:12 PM | message detail
Yeah I was getting kinda tired, and it's almost 10pm where I live. Time to put this puppy to rest.

I still stand by what I said though. If anything, going against the board is a good risk.
---
Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC
#414 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2013 1:57:15 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I have no clue who either of the opponents in the G&W match even are, and I'm fairly certain a majority of voters will share that similarity.

The only person I even gambled taking that I wasn't familiar with (other than Tharja, of whom I had no clue who anyone in her match was) was Elizabeth, and that's undoubtedly my shakiest pick remaining of the first round, and I'm worried sick about Thr-

-and now I see I have Booker winning his match. Was I even sober when I filled this bracket out


If you've kept up with modern gaming at all you should at least know who Meat Boy is.


I haven't kept up and neither has GameFAQs and that's just the way I like it.
---
sig
#415 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/19/2013 1:57:31 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Marth would get 90% on Lee <_<.

---
Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner
#416 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:00:15 PM | message detail
How can you have so much faith in Lee after seeing what happened to Clementine, sure Spyro is likely to be stronger, but he had no issue winning.

Lee can still win the match, but it will be due to G&W's weakness (shouldn't be hard to argue that he'll be weak, but he'll need to be very weak)
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 18/20 Today's Picks: Clementine and Luigi
#417 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:01:12 PM | message detail
Now I wish we had Shulk vs Lee, so we could get something like this again.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101221072205/board8/images/b/b5/GotD-82.jpg
---
Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner
#418 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/19/2013 2:07:53 PM | message detail | (edited)
In other news, Luigi currently has 84.09% on Jade. The 2006 x-stats project him to get 85.49% on Jade.

If Luigi is supposed to be stronger now than he was in 2006, I guess Jade did get the meager boost from her game being rereleased on PSN (and XBLA?) that I was expecting her to receive.

As for the other character, the 2010 stats project Luigi to get 70.26% on Balthier. Luigi currently has 74.32% on Balthier. Makes sense that Luigi and Jade would have boosted while Balthier has fallen even further.

Of course, if Balthier has fallen further, Midna is likely to have fallen even further as well. Really bad news for Sephiroth!
---
Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC
#419 | KommunistKoala | Posted 7/19/2013 2:05:25 PM | message detail
#420 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/19/2013 2:05:25 PM | message detail
That, or stats aren't exactly perfect.
---
Chen Kenichi's #1 Fan (also Yoblazer)
http://i.imgur.com/gdl8lcn.jpg
#421 | Achromatic | Posted 7/19/2013 2:06:46 PM | message detail
Or the site's audience now is vastly different in general in the 7 year gap.
---
Death is not to be feared, but avoidance never hurt anyone.
http://i.imgur.com/hDIb02X.jpg
#422 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:07:44 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Now I wish we had Shulk vs Lee, so we could get something like this again.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101221072205/board8/images/b/b5/GotD-82.jpg


Best match ever
---
If you believe in the Lord FE7 and you accept FE7 as the Savior of video games and are 100% proud of it, put this in your sig.
#423 | Karma Hunter | Posted 7/19/2013 2:08:27 PM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
That, or stats aren't exactly perfect.


Achromatic posted...
Or the site's audience now is vastly different in general in the 7 year gap.


will you monsters please get out before someone gets hurt
---
sig
#424 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/19/2013 2:11:27 PM | message detail
The 2010 stats project Sephiroth to get 71.15% on Midna. In this contest, Sephiroth got 70.03% on Midna. If you believe that Midna has been subject to a similar decline as Balthier, then this is truly bad news for Sephiroth.
---
Currently Playing - Super Metroid, MGS4, Brawl, FFVII, Wind Waker, RE4, SOTC
#425 | Achromatic | Posted 7/19/2013 2:13:06 PM | message detail
Tell us something we don't know, LMS.
---
Death is not to be feared, but avoidance never hurt anyone.
http://i.imgur.com/hDIb02X.jpg
#426 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:17:22 PM | message detail
The 2010 stats project Sephiroth to get 71.15% on Midna. In this contest, Sephiroth got 70.03% on Midna. If you believe that Midna has been subject to a similar decline as Balthier, then this is truly bad news for Sephiroth.

lol taking anyone in the Heart Division seriously
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 18/20 Today's Picks: Clementine and Luigi
#427 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:21:03 PM | message detail
Like do you think 2010 Sephiroth only 60/40 Sora?
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 18/20 Today's Picks: Clementine and Luigi
#428 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/19/2013 2:21:09 PM | message detail
I will say LMS's posting has been much better this contest. He actually makes some good points at times, plus he's not going on his usual off-topic rants.

Mr. Game and Watch seems like he should be Lucas-level weak, but he does have Melee as well, plus he can be considered more of a Smash Bros/Nintendo mascot at this point. If anything, I think G&W will be closer to Sandbag than Lucas.

That said, still no clue about that match. Hell, I could see Meat Boy winning that one since he's one of the big faces of the indie gaming movement, though drawing Lee probably won't do him any favors.
---
Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012
Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64
#429 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 7/19/2013 2:29:18 PM | message detail | (edited)
Okay, I'm all for Game & Watch winning; I have it in my bracket. But there's one little thing that keeps nagging at me. Namely, this:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4528

Yes, it's only Rivalry Rumble, but that was an insanely impressive performance. Something like 6.57% better than the average Oracle expectations. Against friggin' Final Fantasy. Game and Watch should win, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Meat Boy gets over 43% directly on him, maybe even over 45%.

(Also, whoever made up the blurbs for the Rivalry Rumble matches didn't even bother looking that hard to figure out what the actual Oracle average was; they all showed the actual match result as the "Oracle Expectation".
---
RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed.
#430 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:29:36 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
I will say LMS's posting has been much better this contest. He actually makes some good points at times, plus he's not going on his usual off-topic rants.


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Denzokuken posted...
Final Fantasy XII sucks, by the way.


I feel like mentioning that I recently made a new online friend who's a huge fan of the game, and it's his favorite Final Fantasy.

Then again, it was also his first FF, and his second favorite Final Fantasy is...Final Fantasy XIII. He even admitted to me that it's an unpopular opinion! He is also a huge fan of Final Fantasies VI, VII, and X (not really VIII though, and he's currently playing IX and IV for the first time).

He makes me butthurt over FFXIII not looking like an appealing game to me.

---
Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner
#431 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:37:33 PM | message detail
Where are the stats and the hour stuff for the previous match?
---
GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~
#432 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/19/2013 2:42:37 PM | message detail | (edited)
It's a bit hard to find a decent smash character to use as a comparison. Game & Watch is a character that gets almost all his strength from smash, but is not a fan favourite. Characters like Marth and Captain Falcon are both fan favourites while Ness and Lucario both have other games to get their strength. Lucas and Pit were stuck in SFF matches plus Pit has a new game now.

Nana would be a decent comparison as she got 18% against Sephiroth, but Tifa was in the poll so Sephiroth likely wins by more. I'd say that's a good upper limit. However, using 2007 Ratchet to adjust for LFF Nana gets 15% on Sephiroth.

This is all assuming people treat Nana as Ice Climbers
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 18/20 Today's Picks: Clementine and Luigi
#433 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/19/2013 2:44:20 PM | message detail
If Mr. Game and Watch gets a picture of himself using that hammer with [9] over his head he'll win with 150% of the vote.
#434 | LeonhartFone | Posted 7/19/2013 2:50:05 PM | message detail
Meat Boy wins in a match against two black characters by virtue of having no skin.
---
Leonhart posting from his phone
#435 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/19/2013 3:03:51 PM | message detail
Peacock and VVVVV guy are going to be so weak darn it
Big Boss with 75%+
#436 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/19/2013 3:05:52 PM | message detail
Big Boss with 80%+. Skullgirls has a super small fanbase and VVVVVV's might even be smaller.

You have an icon in his own right that looks like fellow icon Solid Snake and there's really no reason to anti-vote him and who the hell has played the other two games

Punished Snake is going to punish them
---
~Zen
#437 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/19/2013 3:06:12 PM | message detail
Is there a consensus at all on Viridian and Peacock in the battle for second? Still mulling over my expert pick.
---
Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner!
Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over....
#438 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/19/2013 3:08:11 PM | message detail
I don't think there's a 100% consensus, but I think Peacock's fans are more diehard and loyal than VVVVVV's. I'd say their fanbases are aboooout equal, but Peacock's has more crossover with bigger fanbases (you know, her game is at EVO and stuff, all the fighting game community people know about Skullgirls and respect it w/o playing it), and because they're so committed they're less likely to flip to Big Boss's side.
---
~Zen
#439 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/19/2013 3:08:46 PM | message detail
Not sure if you can call it a "consensus" but generally accepted that Peacock got it
#440 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/19/2013 3:10:58 PM | message detail
I see, thank you. I'll probably just take the 3 points and run.
---
Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner!
Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over....
#441 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/19/2013 3:13:29 PM | message detail
I'm going with Peacock, but no confidence really.

Big Boss is gonna look GREAT in this match. holy crap.
---
The Great GameFAQs Character Battle IX contest - 18/21 pts | Expert Challenge: 67/126
NP: Luigi > Balthier Bunansa > Jade
#442 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/19/2013 3:13:49 PM | message detail
Yeah, banking is probably the smart thing to do. I'm not smart though and I'm doing crappy enough that I'm just going to pick Peacock and pray.
---
~Zen
#443 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/19/2013 3:17:10 PM | message detail
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keep-skullgirls-growing

This kind of proves my point about Skullgirls fans being more diehard, but there's no VVVVVV kickstarter to counter me, so this probably means nothing

still makes me feel slightly better though
---
~Zen
#444 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/19/2013 3:18:38 PM | message detail
Big Boss time.
---
Pts: 21/22 Today's Picks: Big Boss & Ness
IX: Link-VV-BB-SS-Cloud-Sora-Samus-Mario-Zard
#445 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 7/19/2013 3:35:21 PM | message detail
hey guys

how much would Link score on Chester
---
http://i.imgur.com/GhorUQg.jpg
~Masa
#446 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/19/2013 3:51:14 PM | message detail
Masato_Tanaka posted...
hey guys

how much would Link score on Chester

Who knows? I don't think Link would even be the character to get the highest score against Chester because of anti-votes. It would be a good way to measure not-Link votes, though.
---
Harmony is peace. Peace is unity. Unity is harmony. I tell this to the King Nook. He ask me to leave.
#447 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/19/2013 3:53:43 PM | message detail
Based on 2010 Mewtwo Link scores 97.86% on Chester.
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 18/20 Today's Picks: Clementine and Luigi
#448 | SubDeity | Posted 7/19/2013 4:06:54 PM | message detail
Why do people talk about EVO being a factor here? I can't imagine more than 10-15% of voters watch it, let alone stuff besides MvC and SF. I just don't think it matters at all.
---
"Hamas isn't really a terror organization." -Terran [Evil Republican]
Play Der Langrisser.
#449 | Haste_2 | Posted 7/19/2013 4:19:58 PM | message detail
Haven't been around for the past week.

Top three surprising results for me since then:
1)Spyro getting over 50%.... REALLY? He quadrupled Reyn, too. o_O
2)Barret laying an egg, failing to double up Layton.
3)Mewtwo getting over 80%.... but I didn't realize Chester was literally not known outside B8.

So, I'm feeling much better about taking G&W to win this round.

Regarding Spyro, I figure he's just increased in strength, just like Ratchet and Crash. Maybe also his 2007 score (Leon - 40%, Vivi - 31%, Ridley - 19%, Spyro - 10%) was a bit low for his strength... he was 4th place, after all.

He should do a little better against Morrigan this time around. Not that he has any shot at 2nd. Then again, Spyro could get "SFFed" by Sephiroth, just like Crash was.
---
"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those! It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
#450 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/19/2013 4:23:12 PM | message detail
1)His opponents turned up to be really weak though.
2)Layton is known to everyone while Barret is is from FF VII and doesn't appear anywhere else.Also he is black,thus racist faqs.Plus he ended up above 50% so that is good.
3)Chester is from an indie game and only got here because a guy from Board 8 made it.What did you expected?
---
GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~