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In dat top 10 for Bracket. And I somehow got on the leaderboard for Expert! That's hilarious considering I forgot about my Expert until match 8, luckily I had picked up until then but I missed match 8 and got no points. Then I got Juliet, Tiny Tina, Rinoa and Hero places wrong. Then I no picked on KOS-MOS and Dunban, which was stupid.
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You know that I made this this far in the expect challenge by obvious picks and by spread betting topics...?
I don't see why people struggle so much

Nanis23 posted...

You know that I made this this far in the expect challenge by obvious picks and by spread betting topics...?
I don't see why people struggle so much

Uh, it is not even a third of the way through round 1. <_<.
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Achromatic posted...

Nanis23 posted...

You know that I made this this far in the expect challenge by obvious picks and by spread betting topics...?
I don't see why people struggle so much

Uh, it is not even a third of the way through round 1. <_<.

True
I just mean that using a cheap and obvious strategy is enough to get into the expert challenge leaderboard

You know what match is scaring me right now, oddly enough? Thrall/Poison/Elizabeth. Poison just got supremely lucky with being announced for SF4 recently, and I'd wager a huge part of our voter base watched Evolution 2013. Thrall should be bomba, but I have no idea about what Elizabeth can do. Clementine's match makes me feel kinda bad about her (every single argument you could make for Clem was made for Elizabeth as well and look how well things went for her), but gut says she was the strongest character in the match while we were making brackets. What do you think about that match, guys?

TJF will be the deciding factor.
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Keep in mind this board only has so many regulars + there are going to be times where that strategy fails you miserably later on. As long as the pack is right it looks easy, but then things get interesting.

Anyway Elizabeth's match doesn't scare me because her game actually sold in retail stores, her series has a history of characters doing decent enough, and she has boobs.
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Yeah this contest has been kind to the cookie bracket so far. I think Game of the Decade the cookie was -3 by the end of the first division. But as individuals most of us have already taken upsets in both our brackets and expert challenges so it isn't surprising that the cookie is winning.
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BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 18/20 Today's Picks: Clementine and Luigi

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Lightning Strikes posted...

In fairness Skylanders probably helped Spyro a lot. He's actually relevant again.

Anyway, YEAR OF LUIGI

Skylanders on a site filled with mature gamers? No chance, that's not just an immature game like the original trio, it's an actual game for children. He's probably just shedding the same sort of anti-mainstream/ anti-kiddy drain that used to plague Pikachu.

Skylanders has a pretty big peripheral audience of older gamers (also let's say older, because ironically "mature" just sounds immature). That said, I'm thinking more about how it has put Spyro back in the public eye than these people necessarily having played Skylanders. Before Skylanders, Spyro was pretty much a joke and a dead character. Now he's an established thing again, and that sinks into the public consciousness. It also probably ties in with what you said.

Also, man Mario characters are on the warpath this contest. Maybe one day Mario could beat Link. That would be pretty awesome.
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I'm going to vote Elizabeth just because her cosplayer is pretty much the most beautiful cosplayer ever(Ormeli)

Elizabeth wins. I guarantee that much. For second place, I'm not so sure, but Thrall should be better than Poison, who should be Dan-tier, all things considered.
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Bracket score: 19 / Expert score: 96

I can guarantee with 100% certainty that that match goes Elizabeth > Thrall > Poison
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Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite?
However, the Guru of the next decade so far is SuperNiceDog

I'd be more worried about Thrall outdoing Elizabeth than Poison outdoing Thrall
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The debate for Elizabeth/Thrall/Poison is for first, not second. Even considering the competition, Poison finishes last. Like Ultima said, she should be Dan tier. Thrall's not great, but he's higher end fodder.

Also this is a pretty impressive showing for Luigi! I know Jade's bottom of the barrel fodder and Balthier's nothing special either, but 64% is very solid.

Rank the duos:

Solaire/Demi-Fiend
Meta Knight/Archer
Balthier/Jade

Also, I've got Viridian > Peacock tomorrow. Both should be pretty weak, but VVVVVV is more likely to be something this site's voters have played and care about than Skullgirls.
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Also, Spyro winning was kind of obvious by the time the match itself rolled around, but it was debatable pre-contest, if only because of Spyro's poor contest history.
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So what percentage does Elizabeth need to get on Thrall for her to be a legit threat to Kirby? I would say I am hoping for something close to a doubling especially since I don't see Poison doing much... Of course that is more hopeful optimism then anything

She needs like 70%

(she isn't a threat to kirby)
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I don't think anything she does here would make me consider her a threat to Kirby
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Elizabeth isn't beating Kirby.

But against the crap in her fourpack, she'd need at least 50% before I'd consider it.
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Keeping a constant Balthier Luigi gets 57.25% on Ryu.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if Balthier is a little weaker after 3 years.
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BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 18/20 Today's Picks: Clementine and Luigi

LeonhartFour posted...

The debate for Elizabeth/Thrall/Poison is for first, not second. Even considering the competition, Poison finishes last. Like Ultima said, she should be Dan tier. Thrall's not great, but he's higher end fodder.

Also this is a pretty impressive showing for Luigi! I know Jade's bottom of the barrel fodder and Balthier's nothing special either, but 64% is very solid.

Rank the duos:

Solaire/Demi-Fiend
Meta Knight/Archer
Balthier/Jade

Also, I've got Viridian > Peacock tomorrow. Both should be pretty weak, but VVVVVV is more likely to be something this site's voters have played and care about than Skullgirls.

Hmm...MK+Archer>Balthier/Jade>Solaire/Demifiend. I'd expect MK to beat Balthier, Balthier would smash Solaire, and I think Archer would at least have a good match with the other two bottom feeders. Bowser definitely looks best given his percentage compared to his other second-line Mario pals.

As for Peacock/Viridian I'm going with Peacock, simply because I think she's way more photogenic than Viridian and in a battle of 'who?' character design matters.

I thought Peacock's profile pic looked terrible and the site would be more likely to favor a weird sprite thing over that.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

The debate for Elizabeth/Thrall/Poison is for first, not second. Even considering the competition, Poison finishes last. Like Ultima said, she should be Dan tier. Thrall's not great, but he's higher end fodder.

Also this is a pretty impressive showing for Luigi! I know Jade's bottom of the barrel fodder and Balthier's nothing special either, but 64% is very solid.

Rank the duos:

Solaire/Demi-Fiend
Meta Knight/Archer
Balthier/Jade

Also, I've got Viridian > Peacock tomorrow. Both should be pretty weak, but VVVVVV is more likely to be something this site's voters have played and care about than Skullgirls.

Hmm...MK+Archer>Balthier/Jade>Solaire/Demifiend. I'd expect MK to beat Balthier, Balthier would smash Solaire, and I think Archer would at least have a good match with the other two bottom feeders. Bowser definitely looks best given his percentage compared to his other second-line Mario pals.

As for Peacock/Viridian I'm going with Peacock, simply because I think she's way more photogenic than Viridian and in a battle of 'who?' character design matters.

I've got to admit I'm not confident at all in Balthier beating Solaire, let alone smashing him.
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I hate Luigi
I pushed for Zero so hard in 2006 and was so sure of his victory
Well..yeah

Luigi best Nintendo character
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This Luigi is on steroids. Shame that his path is basically SFF everywhere, would've been interesting to see how he compares to Sephiroth nowadays.
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SuperNiceDog won the Guru contest super nicely!

I want a Reyns of Castamere song edit about this contest.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I thought Peacock's profile pic looked terrible and the site would be more likely to favor a weird sprite thing over that.

On the other hand, Peacock toting a buster sword or gunblade seems like a lock for second to me. Can't underestimate that sword factor!

SuorGenoveffa posted...

This Luigi is on steroids. Shame that his path is basically SFF everywhere, would've been interesting to see how he compares to Sephiroth nowadays.

Well, there's a slight chance Luigi can get there cleanly if you're willing to bet it all on FFVI!

Locke > Ness
Terra > Kirby via Peach LFF

Of course, betting on FFVI to win anything should make anyone nervous.
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It is so crucial for my bracket that Ness wins tomorrow. Don't screw this up you little dweeb.
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You guys better not bracket vote for Ness (or Locke). This is probably CATS' last best chance to win a match.

I was looking into past multiple entrant contests, and there definitely seems to be a Last Place Factor. However, it doesn't so much appear to be because of compounded SFF like we thought in the past, but it appears to happen exclusively when there is an "obvious" last place. If, in a four-way, a character finishes 1-3rd, they're still within one spot of advancing. If the character is in last place however, they don't have any shot, so their voters abandon them and give their votes to the entrant that needs them more. I mean, look at this list of 4th place finishers from 2007. I think the evidence speaks for itself. It's overwhelming

Note: I have put a Y next to a character's name if they did underperform and an N next to the character's name if they did not. Asterisks refer to situations in which there was no clear 4th place loser, and double asterisks refer to cases where the 4th place entrant was the only one that did not have overlap with a similar fanbase. ? are for characters that are likely horrible anyway, so we have no way of knowing if they were underperforming or not.

Vaan: Y
Diablo: N*
Kerrigan: N
Agent 47: N
Zelos Wilder: Y*
Midgar Zolom: Y
Chris Redfield: N*
Toad: Y
CATS: N*
Banjo: Y
Crash: N*
Wander: ?
Agent J: ?
Tails: N*
Simon Belmont: Y
Jak: N*
Tingle: Y? (Not sure if he was an "obvious" last place winner though)
Ratchet: Y
Parappa: Y
Zidane: N*
Matt: ?*
Jade Curtiss: ?
Serge: ?*
Spyro: Y
Nathan Hale: Y
Prince of All Cosmos: ?
Rayman: Y
Haseo: ?
Geno: N? (Geno's never had a match without some SFF so it's hard to figure out what to think of this match.)
Daxter: Y
Guybrush: ?
Viewtiful Joe: Y
KOS-MOS: N**
Midna: Y
Kefka: N
Shadow: Y
Wario: Y?
Phoenix Wright: Y
Zelda: Y*
HK-47: Y
Vergil: N**
Liquid Snake: Y*
Balthier: N* **
Tidus: N
Donkey Kong: Y
Nightmare:Y
Lara: N*
Duke Nukem: Y
Scorpion: N*
Fenix: N
Fox: Y*
Zero: Y
Yuna: Y? (Maybe Yuna looked a little weaker in this match. She wasn't a super obvious last placer though, in all fairness)
Amaterasu: Y
Riku: N*
Sub-Zero: Y
Ryu: Y
Vincent: Y
Pikachu: Y? (Not sure how much he underperformed)
Squall: N
Sephiroth: Y*
Dante: N
Snake: Y

Looking at that, it seems pretty conclusively. Excluding cases where there was no clear 4th placer (or the one or two situations in which the "obvious" fourth placer ended up doing 3rd or better), and situations where the top 3 entrants all shared a fanbase, the 4th placer character underperformed every time except 6: Kerrigan, Agent 47 (who admittedly might not have been an obvious 4th placer with casuals), Kefka, Tidus, Fenix, and Dante. And then Geno and Yuna are questionable. That's some pretty strong evidence to me.
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I'd be pretty surprised if Ness lost. I'd have taken him to beat Kefka pre-Dissidia, and Locke's chances of being stronger than that are pretty slim, although I'd love to see it happen.

And Luigi could still win that match even with Ness there. Very unlikely, but Ness will probably get SFF'd into oblivion.
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It makes sense for it to be a "last place factor"
Say a Match between Link,Cloud and...I dunno..be it Spyro
Since those 2 characters are so strong most votes would go for them
They are also not really from the same fanbase,so no SFF/LFF
In a match like this,the third character will get overwhelmed to Chester level (well LinkCloud was not the best example as they tend to have lots of Anti-votes,but you get the point)

Oh yeah I just realized no one updated the Wiki anymore
Kind of depressing

LeonhartFour posted...

SuorGenoveffa posted...

This Luigi is on steroids. Shame that his path is basically SFF everywhere, would've been interesting to see how he compares to Sephiroth nowadays.

Well, there's a slight chance Luigi can get there cleanly if you're willing to bet it all on FFVI!

Locke > Ness
Terra > Kirby via Peach LFF

Of course, betting on FFVI to win anything should make anyone nervous.

I can't see Locke being worth a damn. Assume he's equivalent to 2k6 Terra (and we're being suuuuuper generous here I think - Locke is not as well liked as Terra in the first place). Who takes 2k6 Terra to beat Ness in what is basically a 1v1 match?

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Locke is not as well liked as Terra in the first place

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
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Are you kidding im not even sure about Locke>CATS

OK,not really,but Locke has no chance in beating Ness...FFVI is not that strong here to begin with
Using 2010 stats,Kefka,who is league above Locke,can score 53% on Ness

But at least Locke will be useful to know if Terra>Peach (SFF'd by Kirby)

Locke not as well-liked as Terra

Funny joke
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LeonhartFour posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Locke is not as well liked as Terra in the first place

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Then00bAvenger posted...

Locke not as well-liked as Terra

Funny joke

Sorry, but I don't buy Locke being better liked than Terra in a sitewide poll in a dissidialess match, even one with such awful votals as these. Feels like a case of 'Magus is totally better than Crono!' to me (except both entrants are second fiddle to their villain there).

KanzarisKelshen posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

SuorGenoveffa posted...

This Luigi is on steroids. Shame that his path is basically SFF everywhere, would've been interesting to see how he compares to Sephiroth nowadays.

Well, there's a slight chance Luigi can get there cleanly if you're willing to bet it all on FFVI!

Locke > Ness
Terra > Kirby via Peach LFF

Of course, betting on FFVI to win anything should make anyone nervous.

I can't see Locke being worth a damn. Assume he's equivalent to 2k6 Terra (and we're being suuuuuper generous here I think - Locke is not as well liked as Terra in the first place). Who takes 2k6 Terra to beat Ness in what is basically a 1v1 match?

Why do you take Terra as an example when Kefka exist?

I didn't say I didn't believe it.

Just reading it makes the bile rise in my throat.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I didn't say I didn't believe it.

Just reading it makes the bile rise in my throat.

Oh OK. I can totally see why, I just feel like Locke is a nostalgia trap that's gonna make B8 look bad compared to the casuals.

Nanis23 posted...

Why do you take Terra as an example when Kefka exist?

Because Kefka is a villain and thus has less in common with Locke than you'd expect Terra to have. He's also a complete anomaly because he's one of, like, four or five side characters in a game that are stronger than their leads (the others being KOS-MOS and the FFX crew, pretty much).

Nanis23 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

SuorGenoveffa posted...

This Luigi is on steroids. Shame that his path is basically SFF everywhere, would've been interesting to see how he compares to Sephiroth nowadays.

Well, there's a slight chance Luigi can get there cleanly if you're willing to bet it all on FFVI!

Locke > Ness
Terra > Kirby via Peach LFF

Of course, betting on FFVI to win anything should make anyone nervous.

I can't see Locke being worth a damn. Assume he's equivalent to 2k6 Terra (and we're being suuuuuper generous here I think - Locke is not as well liked as Terra in the first place). Who takes 2k6 Terra to beat Ness in what is basically a 1v1 match?

Why do you take Terra as an example when Kefka exist?

Because it's extremely unlikely (especially with the art Locke is likely to get) that Locke will be closer to Kefka than he will be to Terra.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

I just feel like Locke is a nostalgia trap that's gonna make B8 look bad compared to the casuals.

you realize virtually no one is picking Locke to win right
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FranzyvonKarma posted...

Nanis23 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

SuorGenoveffa posted...

This Luigi is on steroids. Shame that his path is basically SFF everywhere, would've been interesting to see how he compares to Sephiroth nowadays.

Well, there's a slight chance Luigi can get there cleanly if you're willing to bet it all on FFVI!

Locke > Ness
Terra > Kirby via Peach LFF

Of course, betting on FFVI to win anything should make anyone nervous.

I can't see Locke being worth a damn. Assume he's equivalent to 2k6 Terra (and we're being suuuuuper generous here I think - Locke is not as well liked as Terra in the first place). Who takes 2k6 Terra to beat Ness in what is basically a 1v1 match?

Why do you take Terra as an example when Kefka exist?

Because it's extremely unlikely (especially with the art Locke is likely to get) that Locke will be closer to Kefka than he will be to Terra.

Yes,but that's the point
It is very debateable if Kefka himself can beat Ness,so no chance in the world Locke can

Locke could totally have a chance in a sprite round, man, I swear.

I think he's doomed to Amano art though
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Yeah, Locke has virtually no chance of getting a good picture. The fact that it's a day match doesn't help either.
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I am so glad clem lost

I am not on that leader board why should the so called gurus be on it

I picked Locke...I could have sworn I picked Ness though. It's just one of "those picks". Ah well.
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