Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1066

#301 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/17/2013 6:03:17 AM | message detail
Meta Knight was able to dampen the effects of SFF against Luigi, if he could do the same to Bowser I doubt Bowser can break 60%, especially if Archer pulls a Reimu.
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#302 | vcharon | Posted 7/17/2013 6:03:29 AM | message detail
And yeah, I'm not sure why you're mad at FF. This is clearly going to be a down year for FF and Nintendo is going to dominate.
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#303 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 6:04:15 AM | message detail
And I know I'm looking forward to the possibility of a glitch eliminating my two favorite characters back to back.

can't wait
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#304 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/17/2013 6:10:58 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
It's easy for you FF fans to sit in your ivory tower. The site's tastes are practically built around you.


Yeah, it's nice to see a character or game I love win every contest as opposed to seeing things I don't particularly care for win or steal the show every contest, like Zelda or Pokemon.

oh wait


Oh my god cry me a river. This is like Extha saying he isn't a bandwagoner because Arsenal "aren't successful". The worst you've had it until the righteous rise of Pokemon is "boohoo Squall isn't the strongest non-n9er" or whatever. Do not pretend we're in the same position here or even close.
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#305 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/17/2013 6:14:13 AM | message detail
Oh I lied. I have Sonic, too. And I guess Charizard these days. Beyond that I'm relying on occasional miracles like Knuckles beating Magus that time. "Yay"
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#306 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 6:15:28 AM | message detail
Says the guy who has a realistic chance of having Snake win the contest.

But no, nothing ever goes your way, poor thing.
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#307 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/17/2013 6:16:29 AM | message detail
Snake had his chance in 2008 and 2010 and he blew it. He is the biggest choke artist in these contests and I'm surprised that he has as much support as he does.
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#308 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 6:17:43 AM | message detail
Denzokuken posted...
He is the biggest choke artist in these contests


uhhhhhhh

There are far worse than Snake. I mean, unless you consider choking to be "You had a chance to score a really big upset that most people didn't expect and you didn't do it," I don't really think Snake fits the bill.
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#309 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 7/17/2013 6:19:40 AM | message detail
Snake the biggest choke artist, lol, i know some of you aren't smart but come on.
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#310 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/17/2013 6:31:09 AM | message detail
Oh if Snake wins that would pay almost all of the bad taste back in one go. His win over Sephiroth was one of the all-time great contest moments, but basically cancelled out when he lost to an even worse character next round.

And even then it's one win. Does it make up for the countless examples of senseless crap I've put up with for 10 years? Hard to say.
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#311 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/17/2013 6:32:25 AM | message detail
Seeing Garrus gaining 7% from the freeze here against a Mortal Kombat character makes me wonder just how much Mordin will gain against Epona. Could be over 10%.
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#312 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 6:32:30 AM | message detail
And yet you'll be in here rejoicing when Missingno beats Tidus and probably Squall, too.
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#313 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/17/2013 7:04:21 AM | message detail
Well no, him beating Tidus is expected (though it would be good). No rejoicing. But really, the fact that you have to seek out individual results and possibilities says everything. Everyone has it bad and good. I just have it far more bad than most people and I can't see how you're even saying otherwise. Sure, mock my taste if you want butdon't tthen pretend our situations are identical. .
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#314 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 7:05:29 AM | message detail
I don't recall saying our situations are identical.

I'm just not in the mood to hear a bunch of "Woe is me" and "YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY COMPARE TO MY PAIN" melodramatic bullcrap from someone who's going to have more to celebrate about this contest than I will.
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#315 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/17/2013 7:18:50 AM | message detail
Match XVIII: (7) Bowser vs. (12) Archer vs. (21) Meta Knight

Previous Contest

Bowser – 2010
63.22% against Frog
61.68% against Kefka
54.70% against Sora
45.27% against Charizard

Archer – N/A
N/A

Meta Knight – 2010
34.30% against Luigi

Analysis

Meta Knight cannot catch a break; this is his fourth Mario character he has been up against in his contest career. Who is next, Yoshi? I have never been a fan of SFF matches unless the winner is in doubt and while a big fan favourite Meta Knight is not going to get anywhere close to Bowser. Still his performance against Luigi does show he is capable of resisting SFF quite well and I would expect to see a similar result.

Bowser is one of the strongest characters in the bracket and is considered to have a slight chance of winning the entire division. We will not know Bowser’s true strength due to SFF and Archer being a new character, but anything less than a convincing win will not do.

Despite benefitting from SFF Archer will still likely finish in last. The vote-in where he made an appearance only got him 5% and after you consider Fate/Stay Night fans are loyal it is not hard to see why he is expected to be weak. I do not see him dropping to the levels of Caim and Chester, but at the same time he will not finish too high in the stats.

Depending on how much Bowser is able to SFF Meta Knight we could see him fail to break 50% or fly over 60% without too much trouble. As we saw against Luigi Meta Knight is capable of dampening the effects of SFF so I feel he will be able to do the same here.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Bowser > Meta Knight and Archer

charmander6000’s Prediction: Bowser – 54.65%, Meta Knight – 32.85%, Archer – 12.50%
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#316 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/17/2013 7:23:34 AM | message detail
too much pity party in here

gilgamesh is my favorite character. crono is my favorite noble niner. you can both suck it.
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#317 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 7:24:18 AM | message detail
And Squall won't get to beat either of them.

It really sucks to be me.
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#318 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/17/2013 7:24:35 AM | message detail
Gilgamesh got a match with Guybrush, you don't get any pity.
#319 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/17/2013 7:24:46 AM | message detail
Literally having a meltdown over Garrus losing. At least you could've picked a better match to whine about.

And even pre 2006, Snake never was a choke artist. Sure, he had some embarrassing matches, but he never actually lost them like Donkey Kong or Magus would. And these days, Snake's all about putting up some damn impressive matches.
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#320 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/17/2013 7:25:41 AM | message detail
Also don't worry guys if my bracket stupidity pans out everyone will be unhappy.

Link/Epona/Mario finaks go!
#321 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/17/2013 7:33:07 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
I don't recall saying our situations are identical.

I'm just not in the mood to hear a bunch of "Woe is me" and "YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY COMPARE TO MY PAIN" melodramatic bullcrap from someone who's going to have more to celebrate about this contest than I will.


And yet you are a fan of one of the most dominant forces on this site. Like I said, performing a minute analysis is pointless unless you think FF isn't strong and doesn't win more often than not. And besides, you won't. Just don't act like you have it the same. It's insulting.
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#322 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 7:34:26 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Just don't act like you have it the same. It's insulting.


Again, I never did.

I was just saying "uhhhhh no" to your whole "You FF fans sitting on your ivory thrones have it so nice you always get your way"
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#323 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/17/2013 7:39:19 AM | message detail
But yeah sorry for turning this into a pity party or whatever. Wasn't my intention. I just can't get on board with Leon comparing a decade-long shower of bad taste to "butbut POKEMON"
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#324 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/17/2013 7:40:33 AM | message detail
Pokemon has been wrecking everything in these contests for several years (except Zelda, and thank god for that).
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#325 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 7:41:36 AM | message detail
Pokemon has slowly been killing the contest for the last six years it's true

over half the lifespan of these contests

but I'm going to go now since you're not actually listening to what I said
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#326 | Zylothewolf | Posted 7/17/2013 7:44:14 AM | message detail
2003 was the best year in taste. Cloud > Link, Mega Man > Snake, Alucard > Kirby, Magus > Ganondorf, Fox > Pikachu and Aeris > Sora. The only bad about that year was that Crono lost to Mario and Squall won two matches.
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#327 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/17/2013 7:45:19 AM | message detail
Yeah, Squall winning three or more matches would've been the only way 2003 would've been better, I agree.
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#328 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 7/17/2013 8:04:49 AM | message detail
I'm loving how Garrus is still consistently going up. Good to see he has some strength.
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#329 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/17/2013 8:11:38 AM | message detail | (edited)
Guys I have a feeling that the "Snake is a choke artist" idea was not serious at all.

At least I can be glad that I'm a huge Zelda fan (though Wind Waker is my favorite, uh oh). I don't care for Pokemon either (watched a review of Pokemon Black/White and it just didn't look like something I'd get into), but even otherwise most of my problem lies in a lot of stuff I'm a big fan of not performing very well. And even that's probably not true.

At the very least, I definitely have it much better than you guys. Though seeing Zelda go beast still sickens me a bit since I get the feeling that that series' fans are kinda dronish. Same with Brawl. The good news is that it does not prevent me from being a huge fan of those games.

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#330 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/17/2013 8:09:03 AM | message detail
Damn Aeris is boned.
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#331 | 2Dover3D | Posted 7/17/2013 8:13:41 AM | message detail
So after this, how does everyone feel about the Epona/Mordin match now?
#332 | Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 7/17/2013 8:22:00 AM | message detail
Isn't mordin supposed to be weaker than garrus?

Either way that match was always entirely on how well epona channeled the oot vote
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#333 | HaRRicH | Posted 7/17/2013 8:46:37 AM | message detail
Male Shepard > Garrus > Female Shepard...Aeris is probably in trouble as long as Shepard gets his traditional pic.

Mordin's not worrying me yet about Epona though. Garrus and Wrex were the only ME-side characters I heard of before this contest, so I still don't expect much from Modin...and Epona is probably a clear step up from the likes of Midna.
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#334 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/17/2013 8:47:21 AM | message detail
Garrus has officially broken 45% on Sub-Zero. I'm very impressed by Garrus because it means he's above the fodder line.
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#335 | LeonhartFone | Posted 7/17/2013 8:48:31 AM | message detail
Garrus was above the fodder line a while ago.
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#336 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/17/2013 8:49:02 AM | message detail
Epona!

This is pretty impressive for Garrus though. He might be stronger than Shepard indirectly.
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#337 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/17/2013 8:49:36 AM | message detail
LOL Frank West though

It came at his dispense.
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#338 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/17/2013 8:51:35 AM | message detail
Sub-Zero vs. Aeris, who ya got?
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#339 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/17/2013 8:57:17 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Sub-Zero vs. Aeris, who ya got?


Aeris without a problem, but Shepard should be a good deal above Garrus. Shep is the main character, he's the one on the covers, he's the one in commercials, etc. I've been disagreeing with people who've called his/her Round 1 performance "poor." Shep got a bad picture and still managed 54% in a poll with a character that was clearly serving as a Nintendo magnet, albeit a weak one. With a traditional Male Shep pic, he may have pushed for the high 50s against competition that could have been stronger than Yoshi's (Yoshi scored 60%). That... easily establishes him as the favorite against Aeris imo, especially since the third character is another female jRPG representative.
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#340 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/17/2013 8:59:25 AM | message detail
Bowser > Meta Knight > Archer
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#341 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 7/17/2013 8:59:51 AM | message detail
Next match will be a snooze fest. I don't even think Archer will go low enough to make it entertaining.
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#342 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/17/2013 8:59:54 AM | message detail
Yes, i am hoping Tharja will somehow leech a bit off Aerith.
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#343 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/17/2013 9:00:17 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Bowser
72.73%
8 Votes
Your Pick

Archer
0%
0 Votes

Meta Knight
27.27%
3 Votes
Total Votes: 11
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#344 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/17/2013 9:00:25 AM | message detail
Bowser
70%
7 Votes
Your Pick

Archer
0%
0 Votes

Meta Knight
30%
3 Votes
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#345 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/17/2013 9:00:56 AM | message detail
Bowser
56.52%
39 Votes

Archer
21.74%
15 Votes

Meta Knight
21.74%
15 Votes
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Pts: 17/17 Today's Picks: Sub-Zero & Bowser
IX: Link-VV-BB-SS-Cloud-Sora-Samus-Mario-Zard
#346 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 7/17/2013 9:01:05 AM | message detail
Surprised Archer was beating Meta Knight for a bit
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#347 | ZeldaTPLink | Posted 7/17/2013 9:01:16 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Bowser - 60,53%
Archer - 26,68%
Meta Knight - 15,79%
#348 | voltch | Posted 7/17/2013 9:01:39 AM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Bowser
59.66%

71 Votes
Archer
20.17%

24 Votes
Your Pick

Meta Knight
20.17%
24 Votes

Total Votes: 119

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#349 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/17/2013 9:01:53 AM | message detail
Go Bowser!

Get over 60% like Yoshi. And hurt Sonic's chances of advancing! muahahahaha
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#350 | Ytterbium_70 | Posted 7/17/2013 9:04:32 AM | message detail
I'm actually betting Bowser > Vincent > Sonic for some reason
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