Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1066

#101 | hawk533 | Posted 7/16/2013 1:08:33 PM | message detail
So tonight's match should be more interesting, right?

If Garrus is near Shepard that is. I haven't played Mass Effect, so I don't know if he's more likable or not.
#102 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:09:14 PM | message detail
It'll be interesting to see what Garrus is worth, at least. Can't see him winning though.
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#103 | Sorozone | Posted 7/16/2013 1:09:31 PM | message detail
He is one of the most likable if no the most. I expect decent strength from him, don't expect him to win.
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#104 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:11:10 PM | message detail
Although if Garrus wins, it'd make me feel a lot better about Shepard > Aerith next round.

It also means I have to sing "I am the very model of a scientist salarian" for Board 8.
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#105 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:13:30 PM | message detail
izNotPerfect posted...
Well there goes my awesome expert leaderboard spot :'( Damn you, Chrom.

Gotta climb my way back.


You had Chrom > The Boss?
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#106 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 7/16/2013 1:14:01 PM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Big Boss > Sephiroth

Well, the Boss and (I think) Raiden surpassed expectations while Vincent and Barret have laid eggs. This might maybe be sort of possible now, I suppose.


Raiden definitely did quite well based on the first 15 minutes of the poll(before the 4 chan interference)

Still too early to say, but i do think Big Boss > Sephiroth has potential.
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#107 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:14:26 PM | message detail
Frank West, UMvC3 boost
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#108 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:15:05 PM | message detail
I think Big Boss (or Kirby, depending on what you think) will need a little bandwagon help to win.

Of course, nobody is easier to bandwagon against than Sephiroth, so...
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#109 | izNotPerfect | Posted 7/16/2013 1:25:18 PM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
izNotPerfect posted...
Well there goes my awesome expert leaderboard spot :'( Damn you, Chrom.

Gotta climb my way back.


You had Chrom > The Boss?

lol wat? No. I had The Boss > Heavy > Chrom
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#110 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:25:30 PM | message detail
Edgeworth vs. Agent 47, who ya got?

I got Morrigan winning.
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#111 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:25:57 PM | message detail
izNotPerfect posted...
Dilated Chemist posted...
izNotPerfect posted...
Well there goes my awesome expert leaderboard spot :'( Damn you, Chrom.

Gotta climb my way back.


You had Chrom > The Boss?

lol wat? No. I had The Boss > Heavy > Chrom


Oh.
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#112 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/16/2013 1:28:38 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
It'll be interesting to see what Garrus is worth, at least. Can't see him winning though.


Honestly, Garrus could win that. This is eerily reminiscent of how Scorpion tore up the bracket one year, then the next year he was put against a fan favorite from a popular series in round one and lost. Simiarly, Sub-Zero has gotten upset victories but only over characters who suffer from anti-voting, and now he's being put against a fan favorite from a popular series.

Uh oh?
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#113 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:29:13 PM | message detail
Agent 47 has a better chance of beating Morrigan than he does of losing to Edgeworth.
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#114 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:31:06 PM | message detail | (edited)
Chrom has the lowest % of all Fire Emblem characters who had a match already.

Tharja - 36.21%
Marth - 36.07%
Lucina - 34.69%
Chrom - 30.31% (currently)
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#115 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:32:33 PM | message detail
MGS characters

Raiden - 49.77%
The Boss - 45.72% (currently)
Big Boss - ???
Solid Snake - ???
Otacon - ???
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#116 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:33:34 PM | message detail
Big Boss is breaking 60%. Solid Snake too. Otacon, who knows.
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#117 | paulg235 | Posted 7/16/2013 1:35:41 PM | message detail
The Boss' performance here gives me more confidence in Otacon against Magus.
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#118 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:37:35 PM | message detail
Eh, I'm not sure this performance says a lot about Otacon. Magus is stronger than Chrom or Heavy, and Otacon will be weaker than The Boss. There's plenty of room to fall in between for Magus to win.
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#119 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/16/2013 1:39:04 PM | message detail
To be fair Chrom had tougher opponents than Tharja and Lucina. Marth is a bit debatable after Nightmare flopped.
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#120 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:42:22 PM | message detail
Marth's opponents are probably pretty close to Chrom's overall, although I'd give his the edge because I'd go Phoenix > Boss and Nightmare > Heavy.
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#121 | hawk533 | Posted 7/16/2013 1:44:47 PM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Edgeworth vs. Agent 47, who ya got?

I got Morrigan winning.


After Phoenix Wright's performance, I'm going with Edgeworth. If he's improved as much as Phoenix did, I think Edgeworth takes it.

I also have Morrigan winning.
#122 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:48:38 PM | message detail
Nah, Edgeworth won't do as well as Phoenix, for a number of reasons.
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#123 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/16/2013 1:49:07 PM | message detail
While Phoenix looked good, I'm not sure how much it will translate to Edgeworth, his boosts were from games that Edgeworth was not present in.

Agent 47 received a new Hitman game in 2012 as well.
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#124 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/16/2013 1:49:49 PM | message detail
Edgeworth's spinoff sold really poorly and they never brought the sequel to America.

Also, he doesn't have as much internet fame or appearances in other games like Phoenix having Ultimate Marvel.
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#125 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:50:20 PM | message detail
Well, it's not just that. Phoenix is the face of Ace Attorney. Even people who don't play the games know him. Remember that well over half the site is familiar with the "Objection!" meme. It might be a bit of a stretch to call Phoenix iconic, but he's more recognizable to the average gamer than Edgeworth is, by a long shot.
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#126 | Qwaar | Posted 7/16/2013 1:51:05 PM | message detail
I'm swating over Garrur or Sub-Zero. Originally had Garrus, switched to Sub-Zero a few days ago, now not sure.
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#127 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:51:25 PM | message detail
Morrigan > 47 > Edgeworth

Let's go TJF!
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#128 | KommunistKoala | Posted 7/16/2013 1:53:13 PM | message detail
The more important question is will Archer get enough support to beat Meta-Knight with Bowser there
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#129 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:54:12 PM | message detail
KommunistKoala posted...
The more important question is will Archer get enough support to beat Meta-Knight with Bowser there


I was just thinking of that. But Archer should be turbofodder. The only other match we can go off of is Aeris/Rinoa/Hero, and I think we just waffled there.

Meta Knight should be able to beat Archer.
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#130 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2013 1:55:43 PM | message detail
KommunistKoala posted...
The more important question is will Archer get enough support to beat Meta-Knight with Bowser there


Before the contest, I would've said no, but after Hero and Reimu, I'm not so sure now.
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#131 | izNotPerfect | Posted 7/16/2013 1:57:29 PM | message detail | (edited)
I have Morrigan > Edgeworth > 47

easy pick, next.
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#132 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:58:06 PM | message detail
Archer is from Fate/Night? Never played it.

I think he's gonna look to be like Demi-Fiend in this field. People know who Meta Knight is from SSB. And well, Bowser is King Koopa.
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#133 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 1:59:21 PM | message detail
izNotPerfect posted...
I have Morrigan > Edgeworth > 47

easy pick, next.


No way does Agent 47 finish last here. He has a better chance at winning.
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#134 | Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 7/16/2013 2:06:42 PM | message detail
Would be surprised if archer was weaker than Reimu, but his competition is stronger
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#135 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/16/2013 2:07:14 PM | message detail
Watch Archer get over 20%.
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#136 | 2Dover3D | Posted 7/16/2013 2:10:02 PM | message detail
Archer should be a lot stronger than Reimu. It helps he's actually had some localized games like Fate/Extra and Fate/Unlimited Codes.. also, Fate/Stay Night is one of the most watched anime among Western anime fans on MyAnimeList. Touhou doesn't really have anything localized.
#137 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/16/2013 2:14:50 PM | message detail
#138 | Zabie_W | Posted 7/16/2013 2:17:42 PM | message detail
2Dover3D posted...
Archer should be a lot stronger than Reimu. It helps he's actually had some localized games like Fate/Extra and Fate/Unlimited Codes.. also, Fate/Stay Night is one of the most watched anime among Western anime fans on MyAnimeList. Touhou doesn't really have anything localized.


I don't know, Archer might had some things localized, but I can't see Fate being more popular than touhou.

Personally, if it wasn't because Bowser and Metaknight might LFF each other and that anti-nintendo votes don't have any other receiver than Archer, I could see him going below 10% but because of that, I think he'll get 15 or so.
#139 | hawk533 | Posted 7/16/2013 2:20:55 PM | message detail
#140 | superange128 | Posted 7/16/2013 2:22:45 PM | message detail
Zabie_W posted...
2Dover3D posted...
Archer should be a lot stronger than Reimu. It helps he's actually had some localized games like Fate/Extra and Fate/Unlimited Codes.. also, Fate/Stay Night is one of the most watched anime among Western anime fans on MyAnimeList. Touhou doesn't really have anything localized.


I don't know, Archer might had some things localized, but I can't see Fate being more popular than touhou.

Personally, if it wasn't because Bowser and Metaknight might LFF each other and that anti-nintendo votes don't have any other receiver than Archer, I could see him going below 10% but because of that, I think he'll get 15 or so.


they're both fairly popular but I feel like GameFAQs would more likely have more Archer/Fate Stay fans than Touhou fans
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#141 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 7/16/2013 2:44:15 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
14------348--------98.28
13------1102------97.19
12------2075------95.04
11------3031------92.48
10------3042------89.74
9--------2450------85.92
8--------1511------84.71
7--------862--------82.13
6--------431--------73.78
5--------214--------77.10
4--------91----------65.93
3--------42----------54.76
2--------33----------21.21
1--------7------------14.29
0--------15----------0.00

-3s and better stay above 90. -4s were pretty close to doing the same. Unsurprisingly an easy match.

No one fell off the Top 49.
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#142 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/16/2013 2:50:07 PM | message detail
The only match except the first one that nobody fell off the leaderboard?
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#143 | Pizzaknight | Posted 7/16/2013 2:52:29 PM | message detail | (edited)
http://thengamer.com/xstats/?name1=Agent%2047&year1=2005c&name2=Miles%20Edgeworth&year2=2010c

I know those are lol x-stats, but I just want to make the point that we don't have any hard evidence indicating that 47 would defeat Edgeworth, or vice-versa. Hell, I could see any of those three characters winning the match.
#144 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/16/2013 2:52:12 PM | message detail
Morrigan Capcom-SFF's Edgeworth!

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yeeeeeah

And as bad as Agent 47's last game was, it's still exposure! Edgeworth doesn't get exposure like ever.
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#145 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/16/2013 2:53:31 PM | message detail
Comparing x-stats that are 5 years apart generally does not work. I think a simpler comparison would be:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2077
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3747

Neither lit up the house, but I think 47 did better there. You can make cases about him dropping or Edgeworth boosting, though.
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#146 | LeonhartFone | Posted 7/16/2013 2:53:51 PM | message detail
Technically Edgeworth has had recent exposure! He was confirmed to be in AA5 not long ago.
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#147 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/16/2013 2:56:58 PM | message detail
My division one expert picks were a small disaster (http://i.imgur.com/Ycbg17k.png), but I'm working on a perfect through division two. I'm lost on nearly all of the division three matches, though.

Morrigan > Agent 47 > Edgeworth?
Ness > CATS > Locke?
Elizabeth > Poison > Thrall?
Kirby > Terra > Peach?
Wheatley > Crash > Tommy?
I have f*** all idea what to do with Spyro, Clementine and Reyn.
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#148 | Achromatic | Posted 7/16/2013 2:58:30 PM | message detail
I literally disagree with you on almost all of those.
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#149 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/16/2013 3:03:21 PM | message detail | (edited)
In 2007 Agent 47 got 41.54% against Midna
In 2008 Edgeworth got 37.59% against Midna

A lot has happened since then though.

Edit: Wrong numbers for Edgeworth and Agent 47
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#150 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/16/2013 3:00:29 PM | message detail
Garrus vs. Chrom
Sub Zero vs. The Boss
Frank West vs. Heavy

Sub-Zero > 45%? I think Garrus is gonna be way stronger than Chrom. And Frank West probably beats Heavy too. UMvC3 hype!!!
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