Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1064

#451 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/15/2013 9:31:25 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
So this Dunban ultra fodder or just getting SFF'd to death?


It's less than ideal conditions for him in this match, thats for sure. No real need to speculate with Shulk and Reyn around but it'd be very disappointing if the level of Xenoblade support was this low.
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#452 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/15/2013 9:32:17 AM | message detail
There are 3 RPG characters here.Vincent is from the most popular RPG series,and the other 2 from not so popular series.
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#453 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 9:32:49 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
There is no way Shulk loses to Ratchet.


Ratchet's probably stronger than Jak so don't be so sure.


Jak didn't beat Chie by that much. Shulk is surely stronger than her.

Anyway, regarding Dunban, accounting for SFF it looks like he'd at least beat Kerrigan, so while he is very weak, he's not that terrible.
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#454 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/15/2013 9:32:53 AM | message detail
Isn't Xenoblade the game that the internet ****stormed and had Operation Rainfall and everything?
Then I really expected it to be stronger
#455 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/15/2013 9:33:43 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
--Smurf-- posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Wait, Vincent couldn't even double KOS-MOS, Ganondorf actually scored 70% on her back then.

Don't worry, leave it to FF7 defense squad to spin this one.


all the tjf/rally/racist/sff stuff to account for these poor performances are getting a little bit draining. It doesn't seem to be just FF though with Nintendo also looking poor so far. Seems to be the beginning of a real shift against the long established order.


When has Nintendo looked poor? It's won almost every match it's had, with Waluigi doing far better than he had any right to.


Link, Marth, Lucina, Olimar. Tharja struggled much more than expected.

Waluigi is a joke character who probably transcends voting patterns somewhat.
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#456 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/15/2013 9:34:09 AM | message detail
I feel like people who expected much from Xenoblade should remind themselves that Xenoblade nearly lost to Pokemon Black/White 2. It's a very small Wii release that only did as well as it did in the GOTY final (the only time where it showed anything resembling strength) on reputation. Their characters were always going to be weaker versions of Tales characters.
#457 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 9:34:29 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Isn't Xenoblade the game that the internet ****stormed and had Operation Rainfall and everything?
Then I really expected it to be stronger


It got number 2 in last year's GOTY polls, beating games like Mass Effect 3. It's not the game's strength that is in question.
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#458 | dethfdddddh | Posted 7/15/2013 9:34:52 AM | message detail
--Smurf-- posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
--Smurf-- posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Wait, Vincent couldn't even double KOS-MOS, Ganondorf actually scored 70% on her back then.

Don't worry, leave it to FF7 defense squad to spin this one.


all the tjf/rally/racist/sff stuff to account for these poor performances are getting a little bit draining. It doesn't seem to be just FF though with Nintendo also looking poor so far. Seems to be the beginning of a real shift against the long established order.


When has Nintendo looked poor? It's won almost every match it's had, with Waluigi doing far better than he had any right to.


Link, Marth, Lucina, Olimar. Tharja struggled much more than expected.

Waluigi is a joke character who probably transcends voting patterns somewhat.


Fire Emblem characters and Olimar are fodder.
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#459 | Achromatic | Posted 7/15/2013 9:34:56 AM | message detail
Okay I think Vincent is starting to warm up now.
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#460 | xp1337 | Posted 7/15/2013 9:35:01 AM | message detail
Yeah, Xenoblade is that game, but we're talking about a match in which Vincent (FFVII) is present and even more problematic for Dunban is that KOS-MOS is here, also from the Xeno series, and almost certainly the strongest character the series fields here.
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#461 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2013 9:37:48 AM | message detail
Avoiding a doubling from the star of one of the biggest current-gen game franchisees is disappointing?

Lol Fire Emblem characters.
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#462 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 9:37:53 AM | message detail
--Smurf-- posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
--Smurf-- posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Wait, Vincent couldn't even double KOS-MOS, Ganondorf actually scored 70% on her back then.

Don't worry, leave it to FF7 defense squad to spin this one.


all the tjf/rally/racist/sff stuff to account for these poor performances are getting a little bit draining. It doesn't seem to be just FF though with Nintendo also looking poor so far. Seems to be the beginning of a real shift against the long established order.


When has Nintendo looked poor? It's won almost every match it's had, with Waluigi doing far better than he had any right to.


Link, Marth, Lucina, Olimar. Tharja struggled much more than expected.

Waluigi is a joke character who probably transcends voting patterns somewhat.


I don't know what matches you watched. Link was Link. Marth did fine, and Phoenix is basically Nintendo anyway. Lucina also looked fine, that was all Dracula. And Tharja put away the opponent people expected her to lose to easily, it was just that Tina was kind of crazy.

The real question mark here though is Olimar. He did waaaaaaaay better than projected. Now Shepard, that was a disappointing performance.
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#463 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/15/2013 9:38:03 AM | message detail
Huge update for Vincent. He is rising fast now that we're out of the board vote. If he keeps this up, he should break 55%, but 60% is not happening.
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#464 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/15/2013 9:38:26 AM | message detail
dethfdddddh posted...
--Smurf-- posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
--Smurf-- posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Wait, Vincent couldn't even double KOS-MOS, Ganondorf actually scored 70% on her back then.

Don't worry, leave it to FF7 defense squad to spin this one.


all the tjf/rally/racist/sff stuff to account for these poor performances are getting a little bit draining. It doesn't seem to be just FF though with Nintendo also looking poor so far. Seems to be the beginning of a real shift against the long established order.


When has Nintendo looked poor? It's won almost every match it's had, with Waluigi doing far better than he had any right to.


Link, Marth, Lucina, Olimar. Tharja struggled much more than expected.

Waluigi is a joke character who probably transcends voting patterns somewhat.


Fire Emblem characters and Olimar are fodder.


If condensed to just Link and Marth it's still two suggestions for Nintendo performing poorly and none against.
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#465 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/15/2013 9:40:27 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
There is no way Shulk loses to Ratchet.


Ratchet's probably stronger than Jak so don't be so sure.


Jak didn't beat Chie by that much. Shulk is surely stronger than her.

Anyway, regarding Dunban, accounting for SFF it looks like he'd at least beat Kerrigan, so while he is very weak, he's not that terrible.


Why is he surely stronger than her? And by enough to beat Ratchet, if he is?

Xenoblade sold around the same, if not less than Persona 4. It's release in America was Gamestop only.

The only thing we have to say it has strength is the GOTY poll, which I put zero stock in for anything.

Especially when it's biggest competition after Borderlands 2 in the final poll was the game that inspired the entire internet to rage in fury.

Don't forget that Mass Effect 3 not only easily beat it in the poll with more options but Xenoblade struggled to barely beat Walking Dead.
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#466 | --Smurf-- | Posted 7/15/2013 9:42:57 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
--Smurf-- posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
--Smurf-- posted...
ZinsanityCraze posted...
Wait, Vincent couldn't even double KOS-MOS, Ganondorf actually scored 70% on her back then.

Don't worry, leave it to FF7 defense squad to spin this one.


all the tjf/rally/racist/sff stuff to account for these poor performances are getting a little bit draining. It doesn't seem to be just FF though with Nintendo also looking poor so far. Seems to be the beginning of a real shift against the long established order.


When has Nintendo looked poor? It's won almost every match it's had, with Waluigi doing far better than he had any right to.


Link, Marth, Lucina, Olimar. Tharja struggled much more than expected.

Waluigi is a joke character who probably transcends voting patterns somewhat.


I don't know what matches you watched. Link was Link. Marth did fine, and Phoenix is basically Nintendo anyway. Lucina also looked fine, that was all Dracula. And Tharja put away the opponent people expected her to lose to easily, it was just that Tina was kind of crazy.

The real question mark here though is Olimar. He did waaaaaaaay better than projected. Now Shepard, that was a disappointing performance.


Right, right so the Nintendo characters just looked bad because of strong Phoenix, Dracula and Tiny performances rather than weakness on their side? They're the constant and everyone from different fanbases are the unexpected anomalies?
It's all perspective at this point with limited evidence but the fact that every non-fodder character performance by Nintendo in this contest has been underlined by a "well the victor was just stronger than expected" should be setting off a few alarm bells.
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#467 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/15/2013 9:43:26 AM | message detail
I really don't know what to think about Vincent performance here
If Dunban is LFFing KOS MOS,then she can be only 200 votes apart from Vincent
Which would mean that in 1vs1 he would only...52/48 her?
#468 | dethfdddddh | Posted 7/15/2013 9:45:08 AM | message detail
Smurf, Yoshi did great. Sonic and Megaman are basically Nintendo and dominated as well.

Who was expecting great performances from the Fire Emblem cast?
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#469 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 9:45:23 AM | message detail
Okay. Waluigi. Tharja and Olimar, as said. Yoshi was the big one, great performance. Even Jigglypuff, given her dreadful vote-in performance a few years back. I really don't get why those two either. Getting 70% in a 3-way with a character from your own game in the poll is kind of nuts.

Nintendo is being Nintendo. I see no clear change one way or the other.
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#470 | dethfdddddh | Posted 7/15/2013 9:45:54 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I really don't know what to think about Vincent performance here
If Dunban is LFFing KOS MOS,then she can be only 200 votes apart from Vincent
Which would mean that in 1vs1 he would only...52/48 her?


Xenoblade is gutter trash.
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#471 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/15/2013 9:47:28 AM | message detail
Even if Nintendo has theoretically looked weaker this year (which I'm not sure I agree with), what's the endgame for this discussion here? There weren't a ton of debatable matches that involved Nintendo characters in the first place. Link's still not going to lose. It doesn't really matter.
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#472 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 9:48:48 AM | message detail
Also, it's not every. Dracula was expected to look great. Tina shocked everyone, what are you on. Phoenix... Eh, a little better than I thought but not by much. He's basically Nintendo, too, which is the thing.
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#473 | dethfdddddh | Posted 7/15/2013 9:50:28 AM | message detail | (edited)
Why bother judging Nintendo before the rest of the Mario cast, Zelda cast, Samus and Kirby perform?
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#474 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/15/2013 9:53:20 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
Okay. Waluigi. Tharja and Olimar, as said. Yoshi was the big one, great performance. Even Jigglypuff, given her dreadful vote-in performance a few years back. I really don't get why those two either. Getting 70% in a 3-way with a character from your own game in the poll is kind of nuts.

Nintendo is being Nintendo. I see no clear change one way or the other.


I have no idea what to expect from Yoshi anymore. There are times when he is pretty darn impressive and times when he seems much worse.
#475 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/15/2013 10:04:52 AM | message detail
Anyone losing confidence in Reyn winning should rethink their reconsiderations. You don't have to be strong to win that match at all theoretically speaking.
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#476 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/15/2013 10:08:37 AM | message detail
dethfdddddh posted...
Nanis23 posted...
I really don't know what to think about Vincent performance here
If Dunban is LFFing KOS MOS,then she can be only 200 votes apart from Vincent
Which would mean that in 1vs1 he would only...52/48 her?


Xenoblade is gutter trash.


Well,
I think that 70% of the votes Dunban got would go for KOS MOS,if not more
Seeing as how both of them from the same series..
#477 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 7/15/2013 10:18:27 AM | message detail
After looking at this match, pretty convinced that Cloud would beat Link even without the presence of Mario. I mean, 59% on a slightly LFFed KOS-MOS man, what a beast Vincent is.
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#478 | CasanovaZelos | Posted 7/15/2013 10:26:39 AM | message detail
Poor Dunban, but characters are definitely not the strength of Xenoblade.
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#479 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/15/2013 10:36:07 AM | message detail
I really doubt the Xeno overlap is as intense as some of you are acting like.
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#480 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/15/2013 10:37:42 AM | message detail
KOS-MOS would beat Shulk.
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#481 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/15/2013 10:42:25 AM | message detail
What would KOS-MOS get on Fei Fong Wong?
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#482 | Ytterbium_70 | Posted 7/15/2013 10:47:48 AM | message detail
KOS-MOS would probably go 63-37 on Fei
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#483 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 10:50:41 AM | message detail
So on another topic entirely, I did some lol x-stats for tomorrow's match.

Alucard is projected to get 60.3% on The Boss.
Dracula got 62.8% on Lucina.

Chrom>Lucina, and presumably Dracula>Alucard, so I am thinking Chrom will take it. I could be wrong but I don't get the confidence in The Boss for that match.
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#484 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/15/2013 10:51:47 AM | message detail
Does Mewtwo break 75% tonight?
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#485 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/15/2013 10:53:19 AM | message detail
Alucard = Dracula > The Boss > Chrom > Lucina
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#486 | superange128 | Posted 7/15/2013 10:54:40 AM | message detail
as much as I'd like Chrom to win The Boss most likely has it
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#487 | Sorozone | Posted 7/15/2013 10:55:55 AM | message detail
Well my Dunban > KOS-MOS pick is really working out!

If it's any consolation for the people who picked Reyn to win his match, it is a night vote. I would suspect Xenoblade characters to be much stronger at night.
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#488 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 10:57:10 AM | message detail | (edited)
Even if we assume Alucard=Dracula, as well, Chrom would only need to get 51% on Lucina to be projected equal to or better than The Boss.
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#489 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/15/2013 10:58:27 AM | message detail
Alucard > Dracula, if you think Dracula comes anywhere close to Alucard then Chrom wins.
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#490 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 7/15/2013 11:01:00 AM | message detail | (edited)
Which brings me back to the deleted part of that post, why Alucard>Dracula? I can't think of a reason he would be stronger. At least not significantly so.
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#491 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/15/2013 11:03:50 AM | message detail
Alucard is a fan favourite, a main character and has made multiple appearances in other games while Dracula is essentially an endgame boss that is mentioned a few times throughout each game. People may know him, but do they care about him.
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#492 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/15/2013 11:09:49 AM | message detail
Time for fun with lol X-Stats.

If you assume 75% of Dunban's votes go to KOS-MOS, that puts her at 44.24% here, which if you assume constant Vincent puts her slightly above Big Boss.
#493 | SnoicFactor | Posted 7/15/2013 11:12:58 AM | message detail
I'm thinking Vincent might get beat soundly now by Sonic after this match.. In the Sonic/Vinent/Bowser match. What do you guys think?
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#494 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/15/2013 11:13:18 AM | message detail
Why would we assume that. Most of his votes would likely go to Vincent since Vincent is much stronger anyway and since they have more overlap (male RPG side characters). The "Xeno" overlap is not a very reasonable thing to assume.
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#495 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/15/2013 11:13:53 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Alucard is a fan favourite, a main character and has made multiple appearances in other games while Dracula is essentially an endgame boss that is mentioned a few times throughout each game. People may know him, but do they care about him.


Do people really care about any of the old Belmonts..?
#496 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/15/2013 11:14:25 AM | message detail
Vincent can do it.Sonic nowdays is Nintendo and along with Bowser,Vincent can slip by.But still Sonic is the favorite.Also all 3 FF 7 characters broke 50% in their matches.Very nice.
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#497 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/15/2013 11:14:50 AM | message detail
Project X Zone Factor
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#498 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/15/2013 11:15:19 AM | message detail
ChenKenichiFan posted...
Why would we assume that. Most of his votes would likely go to Vincent since Vincent is much stronger anyway and since they have more overlap (male RPG side characters). The "Xeno" overlap is not a very reasonable thing to assume.


Hence why I said lol X-Stats! It's more to point out how silly this match is than anything.
#499 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/15/2013 11:15:46 AM | message detail
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#500 | SnoicFactor | Posted 7/15/2013 11:15:51 AM | message detail
Play Shenmue series.
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