Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1063

#51 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/13/2013 8:08:25 PM | message detail
Match XI: (6) Lucina vs. (13) Dracula vs. (22) Caim

Previous Contest

Lucina – N/A
N/A

Dracula – N/A
N/A

Caim – N/A
N/A

Analysis

While SBAllen has not allowed full representation of fictional characters he has allowed characters based on fictional characters so guys like Dracula and Hades are now able to participate in this contest. It is not Batman, but it is a start as he is slowly widening his acceptance.

Dracula is getting hyped to have similar strength as Alucard which is possible. Dracula has appeared in almost every single Castlevania game and in a match like this name recognition due to books and other media would possibly give him a boost. I personally do not believe he will be as strong as Alucard because he is a fan favourite in the series while Dracula is more of a final boss with some background story. Either way Dracula should have no problem winning this match and then losing in the second round.

Lucina should be stronger than Tharja and while she was able to win her match that was due to the weakness of her opponents. She was lucky enough to have Caim in her match, one of the few characters where I had no idea about the character or the game that he is from. Maybe it is because I have no idea about the game, but I feel Caim has the potential of being one of the weakest characters in the contest.

I assume Caim made the contest due to hype about Drakengard 3, but considering a character only needed between 10-15 nominations to make the contest I feel the hype will not help him avoid getting crushed. Dracula should have an easy time scoring a blowout, even if he is a flop.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Dracula > Lucina and Caim

charmander6000’s Prediction: Dracula – 59.67%, Lucina – 28.68%, Caim – 11.65%
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#52 | creativename | Posted 7/13/2013 8:20:50 PM | message detail
SuorGenoveffa posted...
...People seriously think anyone but Cage would be the strongest MK character behind Scorp/Sub?

I think there's a very good chance, yes. Johnny Cage was one of the most popular arcade characters. He was also by far the most liked character from the first movie (the non-sucky one).

Though beyond Sub-Zero and Scorpion, you likely have a cluster of characters at a similar strength level, Cage being one of them. Raiden and Reptile would also be in that cluster. I think Raiden or Cage is most likely the 3rd strongest.
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#53 | FFDragon | Posted 7/13/2013 8:20:58 PM | message detail
Is it bad I think Dracula could get 80+% here?
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#54 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/13/2013 8:23:23 PM | message detail
Breaking 80% essentially means you believe we would average 89% against the two characters.
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#55 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/13/2013 8:24:03 PM | message detail
Lucina should be able to pull like 20 herself.

That Caim guy is going to be totally pathetic, though.
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#56 | MegaWentEvil | Posted 7/13/2013 8:24:22 PM | message detail
Hi.
#57 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/13/2013 8:26:19 PM | message detail
I doubt Caim will be any worse than Welkin and he got around 10% on a guy stronger than Dracula.
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#58 | Sorozone | Posted 7/13/2013 8:40:24 PM | message detail
Raiden would easily by the third strongest MK character, than probably Reptile followed by Cage.
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#59 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/13/2013 8:45:20 PM | message detail
Dracula could probably get 80% on Caim alone. If you've got him breaking 80% against both of them, I hope you're entertaining Dracula > Sonic next round.
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#60 | creativename | Posted 7/13/2013 8:51:07 PM | message detail
Caim is getting 15% or less IMO. Not sure about Lucina. She could get mid 20's to upper 30's.
Sorozone posted...
Raiden would easily by the third strongest MK character, than probably Reptile followed by Cage.

I don't think it would be "easily"...if Raiden is stronger it would be very marginally. The strongest guys below the Sub-Zero/Scorpion tier will be pretty similar in strength.
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#61 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/13/2013 8:52:06 PM | message detail
Tonight will be a good test to see if fictional characters are actually worth anything. I'd love to see Lucina win this though.
#62 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/13/2013 8:53:04 PM | message detail
I don't think Dracula's really the test for this. For one thing, it's one specific version of Dracula. For another, I don't think if we were coming up with our "Noble Nine of Fictional Characters," anyone would put Dracula on it.
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#63 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/13/2013 8:54:05 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
It's coming from this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5141


That poll happened near the very end of the bracket entry period, so most people had already decided on Mega Man > Magikarp. If Magikarp had been in a vote-in poll and proceeded to dominate the poll, maybe there would have been at least one period to pick Magikarp.
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#64 | foxhead84 | Posted 7/13/2013 8:55:48 PM | message detail
What's SB logic in allowing Dracula but not Batman... Both did not originate from a video game...
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#65 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/13/2013 8:56:14 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
I don't think Dracula's really the test for this. For one thing, it's one specific version of Dracula. For another, I don't think if we were coming up with our "Noble Nine of Fictional Characters," anyone would put Dracula on it.


Probably not, but if he can't do a big number against a Fire Emblem character, thats not a very good sign for fictional character potential in the future. If he doubles Lucina or something though that'll be a good sign for them.
#66 | gearofages | Posted 7/13/2013 8:56:55 PM | message detail
Where can I find the pick percentage for each match?
#67 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/13/2013 8:57:52 PM | message detail
foxhead84 posted...
What's SB logic in allowing Dracula but not Batman... Both did not originate from a video game...


Dracula is a specific incarnation of the character within the universe of Castlevania, separate from the normal Dracula.
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#68 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/13/2013 8:58:16 PM | message detail
I feel like it's worth pointing out that as much as lol GameSpot contest, Dracula completely bombed there and Vader/Joker could have very well been the finals if it hadn't been for massive rallying for Kerrigan.

I won't be surprised if Dracula does really really poorly.
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#69 | foxhead84 | Posted 7/13/2013 8:58:55 PM | message detail
gearofages posted...
Where can I find the pick percentage for each match?


On the leaderboard, you can see the number of people who picked the character... but you have to manually divise that number by the total of bracket (15,254)
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#70 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/13/2013 8:59:09 PM | message detail
Dracula is the Tetris of fictional characters. Everyone knows him, but who really LOVES him?
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#71 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/13/2013 8:59:25 PM | message detail
foxhead84 posted...
What's SB logic in allowing Dracula but not Batman... Both did not originate from a video game...

Change Dracula's name to something random. Does he still look like Vlad the Impaler or Bram Stoker's Dracula or Bela Lugosi?
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#72 | gearofages | Posted 7/13/2013 9:00:05 PM | message detail
foxhead84 posted...
gearofages posted...
Where can I find the pick percentage for each match?


On the leaderboard, you can see the number of people who picked the character... but you have to manually divise that number by the total of bracket (15,254)


Thanks.
#73 | PrivateBiscuit1 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:00:25 PM | message detail
Dracula is also public domain.
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#74 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:00:26 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted






Lucina

56.76%

21 Votes





Dracula

37.84%

14 Votes

Your Pick





Caim

5.41%

2 Votes

Total Votes: 37
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#75 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/13/2013 9:00:28 PM | message detail
holy Caim
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#76 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:00:40 PM | message detail
Fire Emblem

Lucina
70%
14 Votes

Dracula
25%
5 Votes

Caim
5%
1 Votes
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#77 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:07 PM | message detail
lmao
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#78 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:14 PM | message detail
Wow Lucina was strong early. And lol at Caim being slaughtered.
#79 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:14 PM | message detail
How weak does Caim have to be to get 5% here?
#80 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:18 PM | message detail
Oh my god Caim is getting absolutely demolished lol
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#81 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:20 PM | message detail
STAND ASIDE TANNER

YOU HAVE SOME COMPETITION
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#82 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:27 PM | message detail
XD. Oh Caim.
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#83 | ChenKenichiFan | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:36 PM | message detail
*votes*

Oh. My god.
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#84 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:37 PM | message detail
lol Caim
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#85 | hellfire104 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:50 PM | message detail
Still perfect baby!
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#86 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:52 PM | message detail
Uhh...Caim.

The match started dude.
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#87 | Dr_Football | Posted 7/13/2013 9:01:54 PM | message detail
Hahahahahhahahahahhahaha
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#88 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/13/2013 9:02:08 PM | message detail
Somebody vote for this poor Caim bastard

pls
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#89 | GANON1025 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:02:13 PM | message detail
Oh Caim
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#90 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/13/2013 9:02:29 PM | message detail
Not surprised Lucina got the quick board vote, but yeah, Dracula's gonna win this easily and it's going to be PURE JOY seeing how long it takes Caim to get to 100 votes.
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#91 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/13/2013 9:02:30 PM | message detail
If Caim can keep this up (down?) then he's weaker than Tanner. Wow.
#92 | General_Zimbad | Posted 7/13/2013 9:02:33 PM | message detail
Probably because of bracket voters
#93 | NewerShadow | Posted 7/13/2013 9:04:05 PM | message detail
Chester > Caim?
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#94 | ShatteredElysium | Posted 7/13/2013 9:04:19 PM | message detail
TheKoolAidShoto posted...
Somebody vote for this poor Caim bastard

pls


I checked the result and did exactly that out of pity.
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#95 | hellfire104 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:04:45 PM | message detail
Are there ANY difficult picks in this division? I mean the only ones you could even remotely say are not givens are Phoenix and The Boss and even then I think it's pretty clear that at least The Boss will win fairly easily.
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#96 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:05:02 PM | message detail
CAIM HAS DONE IT!

HE HAS BROKEN FIVE PERCENT!
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#97 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/13/2013 9:05:10 PM | message detail
And Caim manages to break 5% before the freeze. But, yeah. Unless he has a good night run here, I think we're looking at below Tanner-level final x-stats here.
#98 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/13/2013 9:05:33 PM | message detail
I figure Lucina would do very well during the board vote.

Dracula's looking really good here.
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#99 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/13/2013 9:05:50 PM | message detail
Caim getting x10'd
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#100 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/13/2013 9:06:33 PM | message detail
Assuming Lucina drops from here, Dracula really could double her. That would be a really impressive result to me