Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1062

#301 | pjbasis | Posted 7/12/2013 9:26:53 PM | message detail
If you take Ryu and X as equal...how does Jigglypuff vs. Face McShooty go
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#302 | Kibago | Posted 7/12/2013 9:26:57 PM | message detail
those doubling-the-other-two-combined updates. whew
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#303 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/12/2013 9:27:44 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
creativename posted...
Kibago posted...
I'm not saying Jigglypuff is strong, necessarily, but that she has to have at least a little bit of strength. as said above, she's obviously stronger than Yuri = her 'floor' is probably beating him, what, 60-40?

I'd be curious to see how Crono/X would go now

Crono/X - night match or day match?

I'd take X in a day or 24 hour match. Crono isn't himself anymore, even if he is still up there in strength he isn't top tier, sadly.

I could see him winning a night match though. Mega Man does bad in Europe right?


Mega Man X 42.60% 32,195
Crono 57.40% 43,380
TOTAL VOTES 75,575

I dont think the xstats for that one are that far off tbqh.


Do you also take Crono to get 47% on Sephiroth?
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#304 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/12/2013 9:29:17 PM | message detail
I see MMX > Crono 53-47 in anything but a night match. A night match would be closer, but I still got MMX.
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#305 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/12/2013 9:29:25 PM | message detail
How much does Mudkip get if he's in Jiggly's place?
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#306 | Xuxon | Posted 7/12/2013 9:30:20 PM | message detail
i'm kind of surprised so many people had Jigglypuff over 30%. i had her at 31% and thought i was being very optimistic about her strength - like almost Mewtwo level.
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#307 | pjbasis | Posted 7/12/2013 9:31:16 PM | message detail
....you think Mewtwo would only get 31% here?
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#308 | Xuxon | Posted 7/12/2013 9:32:49 PM | message detail
well, not with how weak Welkin turned out to be, but most people didn't predict that either.
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#309 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/12/2013 9:33:29 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
i'm kind of surprised so many people had Jigglypuff over 30%. i had her at 31% and thought i was being very optimistic about her strength - like almost Mewtwo level.


I think I had the highest Oracle prediction for Jigglypuff and the lowest for X. Yeah my Oracle is screwed.
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#310 | WhiteLens | Posted 7/12/2013 9:35:01 PM | message detail
After 4 matches of either getting a 0 or -1, I'll finally gain some goddamn points in the Expert Challenge! I guess I should be glad that I didn't get a -6.

Next contest, time to get Roy and Pichu in as a way to get every SSB character in a contest (except for ROB since I doubt he'd be eligible). And odds are they'll probably be rallies for Wii Fit Trainer and Villager.
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#311 | Xuxon | Posted 7/12/2013 9:36:33 PM | message detail
Popo hasn't been in either... or Ivysaur
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#312 | Achromatic | Posted 7/12/2013 9:36:36 PM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Achromatic posted...
creativename posted...
Kibago posted...
I'm not saying Jigglypuff is strong, necessarily, but that she has to have at least a little bit of strength. as said above, she's obviously stronger than Yuri = her 'floor' is probably beating him, what, 60-40?

I'd be curious to see how Crono/X would go now

Crono/X - night match or day match?

I'd take X in a day or 24 hour match. Crono isn't himself anymore, even if he is still up there in strength he isn't top tier, sadly.

I could see him winning a night match though. Mega Man does bad in Europe right?


Mega Man X 42.60% 32,195
Crono 57.40% 43,380
TOTAL VOTES 75,575

I dont think the xstats for that one are that far off tbqh.


Do you also take Crono to get 47% on Sephiroth?


Without SFF? Absolutely.
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#313 | Sorozone | Posted 7/12/2013 9:38:00 PM | message detail
Welkin is absolutely dreadful. lol

Maybe Jiggs is really this weak. Of course there is the possibility of some SFF Smash thing going on.

But I'm going to lean on Jigglypuff just being a lot weaker than expected, if only to make me feel better about my Ryu pick. >_>
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#314 | jacko_vdz | Posted 7/12/2013 9:38:57 PM | message detail
Haha someone trying to rally for Welkin on /v/.
#315 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/12/2013 9:39:32 PM | message detail
Regardless, this definitely isn't a good first look for PokeFEAR
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#316 | pjbasis | Posted 7/12/2013 9:44:08 PM | message detail
Is X still gaining percentage?
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#317 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 9:45:23 PM | message detail
Some boring matches coming up.
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#318 | pjbasis | Posted 7/12/2013 9:46:07 PM | message detail
I'm really looking forward to how Dracula and Barret do
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#319 | Kibago | Posted 7/12/2013 9:46:53 PM | message detail
X wants that 66%
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#320 | jacko_vdz | Posted 7/12/2013 9:48:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
MegatokyoEd posted...
Regardless, this definitely isn't a good first look for PokeFEAR


I definitely overestimated Jigglypuff/underestimated X, but I don't think this says much about Pokemon at all.

I don't think Smash exposure is neccesarily worth much. She's definitely never been one of the more popular smash characters, especially amongst casuals.

And by no means is Jiggs a fan favourite or anything. Yes she's in RBY, but she's not a starter/legendary/joke/glitch.
#321 | backinblack167 | Posted 7/12/2013 9:48:38 PM | message detail
What's the consensus on Fei Fong Wong vs. Dan Hibiki?
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#322 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 9:49:43 PM | message detail
Fei got this Id.
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#323 | Kibago | Posted 7/12/2013 9:50:59 PM | message detail
there's 66%
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#324 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/12/2013 9:51:03 PM | message detail
I'm even more worried about my Squirtle > Dante pick now.
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#325 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 7/12/2013 9:51:05 PM | message detail
Yeah... dunno why I was ~19% optimistic for Welkin on my Oracle. Maybe because all the fodder matches jRPG characters were looking a little better. This is essentially Yoshi / Sol / DF all over again.
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#326 | Nintendoboy375 | Posted 7/12/2013 9:52:27 PM | message detail
Welkin finally cracked 500 votes.

I had about 15% for Welkin for my Oracle pick.
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#327 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/12/2013 9:54:50 PM | message detail
Also, there's a couple more Mega Man/Pokemon matches coming up. Magikarp never really stood a chance against Mega Man, but the Mega Man/Zero/Charizard match looks more interesting.
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#328 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 9:55:53 PM | message detail
Mega Man is going to beast against Nintendo now that he has SSB4.

I don't think Charizard is the favorite anymore.
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#329 | Sorozone | Posted 7/12/2013 10:07:04 PM | message detail
So, Sly and Lugia.

Safe to say that Jak exceeded expectations. Can Sly do the same?
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#330 | creativename | Posted 7/12/2013 10:15:58 PM | message detail
Wow, MMX going on a rampage now. Relative to pre-contest expectations this is definitely the star performance of the contest so far.
Dilated Chemist posted...
Mega Man is going to beast against Nintendo now that he has SSB4.

I don't think Charizard is the favorite anymore.

I wasn't even aware that he was in SSB4...is that original Mega Man or MMX? (not that it really matters, I think people treat them almost identical anyway)

But yeah, right now it's looking like MM might actually have a good shot at beating Charizard.

I still got Charizard there - I mean seriously, Zero?? That's just cruel to MM - but, if he's boosted by SSB4, he could SFF Charizard and escape with the win despite the heavy Zero LFF.
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#331 | pjbasis | Posted 7/12/2013 10:17:41 PM | message detail
Maybe I should have taken Mega Man > Charizard!
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#332 | FFDragon | Posted 7/12/2013 10:26:41 PM | message detail
seriously though what's a welkin

I've vaguely heard the name Valykrie Chronicles, but it was from Mercs

There was something about a chick who blew up tanks but that's all I remember.
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#333 | Sorozone | Posted 7/12/2013 10:29:43 PM | message detail | (edited)
Main character.

The girl who blew up tanks: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100813123818/valkyria/images/f/f6/Vc-selvaria-bles-lance.jpg

She would probably do the best out of any of the characters from the series.
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#334 | General_Zimbad | Posted 7/12/2013 10:31:03 PM | message detail
Can't wait for division 6, going to make or break brackets.
#335 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 10:46:03 PM | message detail
Mega Man has SSB4.

Zero has UMvC3.

Charizard has Pokemon X/Y.
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#336 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 10:50:30 PM | message detail
General_Zimbad posted...
Can't wait for division 6, going to make or break brackets.


Looking at that Division I could only get 2 points. The only locks I see are Crono & Pikachu in Round 1. Sora should beat Scorpion, so that should be a lock too. And the winner of that has Round 2 in the bag (vs. Booker/Gilgamesh, Groose/Yoshimitsu). So that's 5 points that are pretty much guaranteed. Every other match is debatable.
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#337 | Silverflash-x | Posted 7/12/2013 11:03:50 PM | message detail
With the ending of that last match, I'm officially the last person on the Expert leaderboard. I really didn't think that Isaac was going to be that strong. :(

So, Fei > Dan?
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#338 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/12/2013 11:30:48 PM | message detail
X kicking ass and taking names. If only we could get a contest where he's not fed to Link.
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#339 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/13/2013 12:00:33 AM | message detail
Biggest POKEFEAR supporter here
Jigglypuff is doing as expected
#340 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/13/2013 12:14:57 AM | message detail
Mega Man/X > Pokemon
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#341 | LordOfDabu | Posted 7/13/2013 12:20:59 AM | message detail
Mega Man has always been the king of blowouts
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#342 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/13/2013 12:26:57 AM | message detail
Crono vs. Pikachu vs. Zero

Who ya got?
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#343 | paulg235 (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/13/2013 12:27:22 AM | message detail
Pikachu
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#344 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/13/2013 12:31:31 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Crono vs. Pikachu vs. Zero

Who ya got?

I think Crono is probably around Pikachu's level, but in that situation I think he could easily pull off an LFF win. Unless he's done a 2005 Magus.
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#345 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/13/2013 12:50:14 AM | message detail
Crono is going to be so weak this year lol
#346 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/13/2013 2:00:08 AM | message detail
I kinda wanna pull the trigger on Zero there. No real reason why, just a sudden gut feeling that he could do it. I wonder why...
#347 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/13/2013 2:08:57 AM | message detail
I'd love to see MMX against Vincent/Squall/Sonic/Crono. We need to find out how strong he actually is.

Mudkip should get in again and hopefully avoid major LFF. In 2008, Mudkip would break 40% on X according to x-stats site.
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#348 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/13/2013 2:11:24 AM | message detail
Crono would beat Pikachu and Zero no doubt. The only reason he can lose to Pikachu is because Magus is the worst possible anchor for him. If Otacon is there, Crono wins.
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#349 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/13/2013 2:15:11 AM | message detail
Why people still consider Crono to have a noble niner power anymore
#350 | creativename | Posted 7/13/2013 2:29:25 AM | message detail
ctesjbuvf posted...
Crono would beat Pikachu and Zero no doubt. The only reason he can lose to Pikachu is because Magus is the worst possible anchor for him. If Otacon is there, Crono wins.

Nah, Frog is probably worse. Both Frog and Magus are likely weaksauce now, but Magus especially has become garbage, and he was always weaker than Frog IIRC.

I seriously don't think Magus even hurts him that bad - Magus is weak, plus he'd get SFF'd down to holy hell. It just so happens that this is likely enough to cost him the match, only because him and Pikachu are so close in strength.

I'd like to say Crono beats Pikachu straight up...but we don't know how much he's declined. I think Missingingno>Pikachu, so last contest Crono would have beaten Pikachu. This contest, it's much murkier.
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