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NM4 posted... Voted for Sonic solely because of how good that retro pic is. This is your friendly reminder that everyone should play Sonic Generations. --- Leonhart posting from his phone |
Fou Lu posted... Who submitted those disgusting pictures for Alucard, Dracula, and Simon Belmont? They should have the Lords of Shadow versions, not the ones from IGA's Castlevania. SImon Belmont doesn't wear a gimp suit. This is the best picture for Dracula to have. You want him to look like a normal Dracula, not like Gabriel Belmont. --- You think this is over because I am dead. It's not over. The games have just begun. |
Ultimaphazon posted... Dan sucks and I'm happy to see him fail. At last! Someone who shares my loathe for the gay wannabe version of Ryu! --- SuperNiceDog wags his tail better than your regular, standard dog. -If someone scares the hell out of you, then are you protected by God? |
Really
impressive performance by Sonic here. I'm getting worried about Vincent
being able to beat him even with Bowser in the poll. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. |
How would Id (Xenogears) do? Or Grahf and Citan Uzuki? --- Pts: 10/10 Today's Picks: Dracula & Barret Wallace IX: Link/VV/BB/SS/Cloud/Sora/Samus/Mario/Zard |
LOLContests posted... Really impressive performance by Sonic here. I'm getting worried about Vincent being able to beat him even with Bowser in the poll. Yeah, Vincent might have trouble with Mewtwo with Pokemon X/Y hype. --- Pts: 10/10 Today's Picks: Dracula & Barret Wallace IX: Link/VV/BB/SS/Cloud/Sora/Samus/Mario/Zard |
LOLContests posted... Really impressive performance by Sonic here. I'm getting worried about Vincent being able to beat him even with Bowser in the poll. Let's wait until we see how Vincent does first. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
Really want to see how Sephiroth does against Midna/Little Mac. --- Pts: 10/10 Today's Picks: Dracula & Barret Wallace IX: Link/VV/BB/SS/Cloud/Sora/Samus/Mario/Zard |
How would you rank the FF7 cast? Cloud > Sephiroth > Tifa > Vincent > Aeris > Cid > Barret --- Pts: 10/10 Today's Picks: Dracula & Barret Wallace IX: Link/VV/BB/SS/Cloud/Sora/Samus/Mario/Zard |
DC, just saw your sig. Big Boss > Seph? Seriously? --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
Vincent is stronger than Tifa. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
Cloud > Sephiroth > Tifa = Vincent >> Aeris >> Cid > Barret is my guess. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
ctesjbuvf posted... Vincent is stronger than Tifa. This is only possible with some serious SFF/Missingno revenge shenanigans considering that Seph got over 60% against Vincent and 56% against Tifa. --- Harmony is peace. Peace is unity. Unity is harmony. I tell this to the King Nook. He ask me to leave. |
I
think tifa just handles sff better whereas Vincent is slightly stronger
against non-sff. Sephiroth is an unfair comparison as Vincent/seph are
much more similar than sephiroth and a pair of boobs --- http://img.imgcake.com/KommunistKoala/koalajpgehsa.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/KKpngat.png |
Oh sure, if we only look at how they did against Sephiroth. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
There's a small chance of Lucina upsetting Dracula. Very small. Like, I can hold it on my fingertip. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima SuperNiceDog: Bracket: Good, Taste: Bad |
Don't
let the degree of SFF fool you into thinking it means Tifa beats
Vincent. Vincent has looked stronger than Tifa in pretty much every
contest they've shared, at least to me. This Mewtwo > Vincent hype is kinda silly. That's Pokefear gone wrong. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Tifa/Vincent is tough to decide because last time we saw Tifa in a no-excuses match against an elite was 2005. Hell, it's been 7 years since Vincent had a real 1v1 match, and since then FFVII anti-voting has become way, way stronger. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
ctesjbuvf posted... DC, just saw your sig. Big Boss > Seph? Seriously? Yup. --- Pts: 10/10 Today's Picks: Dracula & Barret Wallace IX: Link/VV/BB/SS/Cloud/Sora/Samus/Mario/Zard |
There's
a better chance of Squirtle beating Dante than Mewtwo beating Vincent,
isn't there? (Not saying that is likely either, though.) |
Well, when it's FFVII vs. FFVII, the anti-voting factor doesn't matter as much...! I'm just saying I'd pick Vincent > Tifa in a head to head match. He's looked like the better of the two to me. No slight to Tifa, mind you. She's strong, too, but I give the edge to Vinny. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Squirtle has one wild card factor that would enable him to beat Dante, and that's Dante getting a DmC pic. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Also, just throwin' this out there... Fei/Dan or Jiggly/Welkin: Who's better? --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
ctesjbuvf posted... Oh sure, if we only look at how they did against Sephiroth. It's not like we can make a better comparison for Vincent in the last 5 years. But I'm actually leaning toward SFF/Missingno. revenge shenanigans, though this is hardly reliable. --- Harmony is peace. Peace is unity. Unity is harmony. I tell this to the King Nook. He ask me to leave. |
LeonhartFour posted... Also, just throwin' this out there... Jiggly/Welkin by far. --- SuperNiceDog wags his tail better than your regular, standard dog. -If someone scares the hell out of you, then are you protected by God? |
Impressive show by Sonic. The first in years for him, I'm a little worried for Vincent. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Started this discussion in a topic asking whether Garrus could pull off the upset against Sub-Zero. How many characters can you come up with who are stronger than the protagonist of their games? I can't think of many, and most of the ones I can come from the same game. So far I've got Auron, Rikku, and Yuna all being stronger than Tidus. I think Kratos Aurion is stronger than Lloyd, but honestly it doesn't matter because Tales characters are all weak anyway. It's hard to name just one protagonist from Final Fantasy VI but Kefka, the main villain, is the strongest entrant it's produced. And, um...pretty sure that's it unless you want to use technicalities like that now that we've seen Pokémon Trainer Red in the contest, we get to include any Pokémon that are stronger than him. ...Oh, shoot, I forgot about Vivi! That was a rather glaring mistake, which I have now edited into my post in the other topic. Still, I'm only up to six, and of those six, half are from FFX and two of the other three are also from FF games. --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
does
Sonic have a good shot at beating Link's ~21k votes for most votes so
far? 8,370 about a quarter of the way in seems encouraging --- Leafs / Raptors / Blue Jays / TFC / Argos / Tottenham We'll get 'em next year. |
By
far? I'd say Welkin's easily the weakest of the four. I think it goes
Jiggly > Fei > Dan > Welkin there, and I don't think Jiggly's
as far ahead of Fei as some will naturally assume because of Pokemon. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Sonic almost right at the doubling now. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Mewtwo isn't beating Vincent. Even with FF7's drop in strength and PokeFear, that just isn't happening. And as said, Seph/Vincent is an unfair comparison. Seph is far more likely to SFF Vincent than Tifa. Anyone could have told you that before the matchups happened. Everyone was predicting Seph to SFF Vincent into the ground. Vincent actually did better than expected. Here's the Oracles for those matches: www.oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SpC2k10&type=match&match=93 www.oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SpC2k10&type=match&match=120 The consensus was Sephiroth over Vincent with 68.37%. Against Tifa it was only 63.85%. Some of that is people downgrading Seph because of underperformance against Vincent, but most of it is people realizing Vincent was much more vulnerable to Seph than Tifa was. I'd say Vincent was just a tiny hair stronger than Tifa, in indirect matchups. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour posted... Also, just throwin' this out there... Welkin is so bad that this might be a tie. I would have loved to have seen the Sonic/Crono/MM divisions all beside each other as 7-9 so we could see them have a war - a little unfair to let one of them into the finals, sure, but would have made for a fun semifinal to predict (Sonic, Crono, MM, Vincent, Charizard, Pikachu, Sora...) --- Leafs / Raptors / Blue Jays / TFC / Argos / Tottenham We'll get 'em next year. |
LeonhartFour posted... By far? I'd say Welkin's easily the weakest of the four. I think it goes Jiggly > Fei > Dan > Welkin there, and I don't think Jiggly's as far ahead of Fei as some will naturally assume because of Pokemon. I think Jigglypuff would pretty much ahead Fei. Welkin's weak, yeah, but a JRPG character beating a really weak Street Fighter character is pretty embarrasing. ...Or GameFAQs has a pretty good taste, you choose. --- SuperNiceDog wags his tail better than your regular, standard dog. -If someone scares the hell out of you, then are you protected by God? |
Not
sure how this is embarrassing for Fei or Dan! This is expected. We
could turn it around and have a weak Street Fighter beat a niche JRPG
character if we had Dan vs. Welkin! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Whoa, nearly a 75% update for Sonic (and a sub-10% update for Dan). I actually do wonder if the old school Sonic pic is helping him here. It's probably negligible, but still, that's a nostalgic look for those who like the Genesis games. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
LeonhartFour posted... Not sure how this is embarrassing for Fei or Dan! This is expected. We could turn it around and have a weak Street Fighter beat a niche JRPG character if we had Dan vs. Welkin! Yeah, but do you really have that much faith in Fei being at least semi-strong?? --- SuperNiceDog wags his tail better than your regular, standard dog. -If someone scares the hell out of you, then are you protected by God? |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... Started this discussion in a topic asking whether Garrus could pull off the upset against Sub-Zero. I doubt Liu Kang will ever be stronger than Sub & Scorp, & I can't think of anyone that could be stronger than Nightmare from Soul Calibur. That's all I can think of, at least when it comes to characters of relative strength. --- Now Awaiting: Tales of Xillia, Squigly patch for Skullgirls |
red sox 777 posted... Impressive show by Sonic. The first in years for him, I'm a little worried for Vincent. You actually had Vincent in that match? LeonhartFour posted... Don't let the degree of SFF fool you into thinking it means Tifa beats Vincent. Vincent has looked stronger than Tifa in pretty much every contest they've shared, at least to me. Except that's exactly what it means. Or more accurately, the fact that SFF adjustments are essentially guesswork means that you can pretty much claim anything you want about a character's current strength if their most recent match was an SFF match. "Pretty much every contest they've shared." Except clearly not 2010 because they had a common opponent and Tifa did better. In 2008 Tifa was stuck with Sephiroth from the very beginning, so there aren't really any meaningful conclusions you can draw from that, but Vincent managed to lose a match he'd won the previous year in only slightly less favorable conditions. Yes, both of the other contestants in the 2007 match had SNES overlap with Crono while only one of the ones in the 2008 match did, but the common wisdom is that Crono's been getting weaker every year as his game continues to age. Vincent's last appearance in a game is getting longer and longer ago, too. 2007 oh wait Tifa wasn't in that one because I don't know. Should be a point to Vincent, sure, but you said "that they shared", so it isn't. Not 2006, either, because Tifa remains the only non-Noble Niner to break 49.5% in a 24-hour match with a Noble Niner even now. And Samus won that contest, so it's not like you can make the x-stats say that Vincent's loss to Sonic was actually better, even if his one win in the contest was better than anything Tifa could've picked up on the female side. 2005? Okay, sure, 2005. Both of them crushed in the first round and beat some pretty nice characters in later rounds. Vincent's win over Squall, close as it was, is probably more impressive than Tifa's win over Luigi, and Vincent put up a better percentage on Crono than Tifa did on Sonic. 2005 was eight years ago. Tifa's received games since then--KHII, Dissidia 012, etc. Vincent, unless he was in Theatrhythm or something, I'm pretty sure hasn't had anything new since Dirge of Cerberus. He's declining. Need more proof? Just last contest, Vincent was an 8-seed and Tifa was a 10. Both far lower than their contest strength warrants, but those were the seeds. This contest, Tifa improved to a 7, which even considering the difference in the number of characters on each seed line is no worse than an 8 in a 128-character battle. Vincent's a 23. Because he's still a strong character, he'll perform far above his seed, but the fact remains that he slipped all the way down to a 23 in the nomination process. (Maybe. We're pretty sure that some of these seeds were "fixed", but the assumption would be that everything else is legit, which means his seed probably isn't that far off from a 23.) --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
Nightmare for sure is the class of SC as far as contest strength ... unless you count Link --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
StarStormScream posted... TsunamiXXVIII posted...Started this discussion in a topic asking whether Garrus could pull off the upset against Sub-Zero. Agreed, but we haven't actually seen Liu Kang in a contest. (Also, it's hard to name just one protagonist for most fighting game series. I think MK has about five of them. So I'm treating Sub-Zero > Scorpion as the "protagonist is better" relationship.) --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
First
of all, nominations means nothing, but SFF os harcore against FF there
too, so if you really want to throw it out there, Vincent would get SFFd
harder in nominations, same reason as with Seph. Samus had Zero Suit pic in that match with Tifa you know. If you actually want to use that then Tifa should be stronger than a bunch of NNers. Didn't really draw out much of the rest. I'll give you that Tifa having more games favor her, but it really isn't enough. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
TsunamiXXVIII posted... Started this discussion in a topic asking whether Garrus could pull off the upset against Sub-Zero. Auron comes to mind. --- Pts: 10/10 Today's Picks: Dracula & Barret Wallace IX: Link/VV/BB/SS/Cloud/Sora/Samus/Mario/Zard |
thats why we never get Cait Sith --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, 49ers and Lions win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) Professional UotY Mentor to Leo3Leo, McFlubbin and Jeff Zero |
Advokaiser posted... Yeah, but do you really have that much faith in Fei being at least semi-strong?? Noticeably stronger than Welkin. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
I wouldn't be surprised if Fei was closer to Jiggly than Welkin to Dan. --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
while
Garrus most likely won't be stronger than Shepard he's the only one I
can think of who would even come close to Shep's strength He's the only partner who, from what I've seen is almost universally liked and is one of the few who can be a squadmate in all 3 games. While Sub-Zero is decently iconic, the fact of the matter is that his "notable" wins are against characters who like to choke (Master Chief and Tidus). Subby can't even beat Sora with Squall in the poll That said I personally think it'll be close and more people on this site would care about Western RPGs then Fighting games even if Mortal Kombat 9 was pretty well-received. --- Want any VNs pre-patched? PM me. List of VNs can be found by clicking on my username. |
Oh yeah, SNES factor matters very little if it matters at all. --- *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5141 Magikarp got 83.74% against Dan, while Sonic currently getting 83.31% against him. However, Magikarp probably overperformed in that 9-way poll because there were no pictures, so you have some characters underperforming. When you have no pictures, casuals have to vote based on the character names and Magikarp has the most name recognition there. Mega Man is slightly stronger than Sonic, although that probably has changed because of Capcom neglecting Mega Man lately. Mega Man is very likely to win his match against Magikarp just because I think Magikarp overperformed in the 9-way poll. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Any
recent neglect by Capcom was probably erased from Mega Man's
announcement in Smash Bros. People don't really think Magikarp might
actually win that match, do they? --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
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