Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1061

#351 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 7/12/2013 3:52:57 AM | message detail
into?
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#352 | Lopen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:53:17 AM | message detail
Honestly more than the message Greyfeld is giving the most embarrassing thing is that this is what causes a man to snap? A random 1 point match between 3 fodders? Unless you're president of the Official Jak Fanclub of America I don't see what the huge deal is here!
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#353 | KommunistKoala | Posted 7/12/2013 3:54:26 AM | message detail
Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
into?


He gains fans or adoration or something for catching axes or killing minions

When he kills a champion those stacks convert into bonus gold
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#354 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:54:37 AM | message detail
You don't understand, Lopen! This sets a precedent!!
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#355 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 7/12/2013 3:54:40 AM | message detail
Going back to sleep. Lead is now at 736. gogogo Draven!

Me too. Have to be up in 5 hours :[
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#356 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 3:54:43 AM | message detail
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#357 | KommunistKoala | Posted 7/12/2013 3:54:50 AM | message detail
#358 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/12/2013 3:55:06 AM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
You don't understand, Lopen! This sets a precedent!!


Boy do I hate precedents

The worst
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#359 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/12/2013 3:55:33 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
Nanis23 posted...
There is nothing bad about rallying
If Riot themselves had a in-game rallying then,and only then, I can understand people crying over it


It imbalances the results, and can be used to screw over people who made otherwise accurate picks.


Why do you not see the lack of logic here
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#360 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 3:56:39 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Honestly more than the message Greyfeld is giving the most embarrassing thing is that this is what causes a man to snap? A random 1 point match between 3 fodders? Unless you're president of the Official Jak Fanclub of America I don't see what the huge deal is here!


Rather than making sweeping assumptions, why don't you ask for clarification of my stance if you don't understand it? Or is it just easier and more convenient to assume that I'm an idiot and keep the circlejerk going?
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#361 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:59:26 AM | message detail
We literally don't have contests without rallying.

I mean that is 100% the reason they still do contests. Increased site-traffic.

Saying we should have contests without rallying is like saying we should get paychecks without jobs.
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#362 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:59:32 AM | message detail
KommunistKoala posted...
And if he dies he loses half the stacks I believe


And as mentioned before, it's called League of Draven. And has his face as the ability portrait IIRC.

Greyfeld posted...
Lopen posted...
Honestly more than the message Greyfeld is giving the most embarrassing thing is that this is what causes a man to snap? A random 1 point match between 3 fodders? Unless you're president of the Official Jak Fanclub of America I don't see what the huge deal is here!


Rather than making sweeping assumptions, why don't you ask for clarification of my stance if you don't understand it? Or is it just easier and more convenient to assume that I'm an idiot and keep the circlejerk going?


Why don't you justify yourself, whiny boy? Your position was summed up succintly before as 'new people don't deserve to vote'. Correct that, then. And don't give us crap about 'skewing predictions' and ****. Explain to us why people randomly deciding to take to the site and vote are worth more than people told to go there and vote, who still have freedom to choose between characters as they like. Go on, whiner. We're all ears.
#363 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/12/2013 3:59:37 AM | message detail
Also, I agree about the obnoxiousness but I'm willing to put it aside. The sole aim here should be to stop Link at any cost. Now the ideal scenario is Snake being the one, because he's by far the best character with any top-tier contest strength. But I will throw my support behind the Draven cause if he becomes a viable anti-Link option.

Like I said, totally agree on the obnoxiousness but there's a greater good here.
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#364 | Lopen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:59:52 AM | message detail
Your stance is you're flipping out over a 1 point match involving 3 fodders. That was easy enough to glean so I don't need clarification thanks.
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#365 | Achromatic | Posted 7/12/2013 4:00:02 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
Lopen posted...
Honestly more than the message Greyfeld is giving the most embarrassing thing is that this is what causes a man to snap? A random 1 point match between 3 fodders? Unless you're president of the Official Jak Fanclub of America I don't see what the huge deal is here!


Rather than making sweeping assumptions, why don't you ask for clarification of my stance if you don't understand it? Or is it just easier and more convenient to assume that I'm an idiot and keep the circlejerk going?


This isn't a circlejerk btw. We are just stating that you are being pretty melodramatic over a poll. Well, I am stating that. I don't know what the other guys are stating.

Now if you want to plead diminished capacity due to having to deal with kanz we can talk a plea deal...!
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#366 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/12/2013 4:00:24 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
The sole aim here should be to stop Link at any cost.


I don't think I like you turning into The Illusive Man all of a sudden.

You've sacrificed too much.
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#367 | -Tofa7- | Posted 7/12/2013 4:00:44 AM | message detail
WTF HAPPENED
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#368 | redrocket | Posted 7/12/2013 4:01:34 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
Lopen posted...
Honestly more than the message Greyfeld is giving the most embarrassing thing is that this is what causes a man to snap? A random 1 point match between 3 fodders? Unless you're president of the Official Jak Fanclub of America I don't see what the huge deal is here!


Rather than making sweeping assumptions, why don't you ask for clarification of my stance if you don't understand it? Or is it just easier and more convenient to assume that I'm an idiot and keep the circlejerk going?


Assume?
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#369 | Gooper Blooper | Posted 7/12/2013 4:01:47 AM | message detail
Awesome result. Don't care about any of these guys (except Chie, a little, because of WVGCW) but this is exactly the sort of insane shenanigans needed to keep contests from being dull as dirt.
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#370 | armitage999 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:03:25 AM | message detail
VeryInsane posted...
I thought League players were too busy playing League to vote in this.

>_>

Oops.


I too thought that not enough LoL folks would hop on GameFAQs to throw a vote Draven's way. That and I somehow assumed Persona had a stronger fanbase, so I picked Chie to win in a squeaker over Draven. Darn it, I'm no expert!

Also, no offense, LoL is a fun game and all, but best community? Say whaaaaaaat?
#371 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 4:03:25 AM | message detail
-Tofa7- posted...
WTF HAPPENED


DOUBLE KILL
#372 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:04:08 AM | message detail
Link is Rafael Nadal and John Cena rolled into one. Of course XIII is hellbent on his destruction.

On the bright side, a few more championships, and Link will become Roger Federer combined with Ric Flair, which I think XIII will be more welcoming towards.
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#373 | Achromatic | Posted 7/12/2013 4:04:59 AM | message detail
By the way Draven is absolutely slaughtering in mainland Europe for those who care to look past simple rallying/stuffing thoughts.

Like, it is a clinic.
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#374 | izNotPerfect | Posted 7/12/2013 4:05:00 AM | message detail
Already I can't wait for Ulti's analysis on this one.
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#375 | XIII_rocks | Posted 7/12/2013 4:05:10 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
The sole aim here should be to stop Link at any cost.


I don't think I like you turning into The Illusive Man all of a sudden.

You've sacrificed too much.


Just how it is. It's not ideal, but Link winning in a final he might share with Mario is depressing and the bad ending for this contest.

Go. Draven.
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#376 | theawesomestevr | Posted 7/12/2013 4:05:25 AM | message detail
From: XIII_rocks | #363
Also, I agree about the obnoxiousness but I'm willing to put it aside. The sole aim here should be to stop Link at any cost. Now the ideal scenario is Snake being the one, because he's by far the best character with any top-tier contest strength. But I will throw my support behind the Draven cause if he becomes a viable anti-Link option.

Like I said, totally agree on the obnoxiousness but there's a greater good here.

If Draven were the one to take down Link, it would strip away any meaning such a momentous occasion ought to have for me.
#377 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 4:08:09 AM | message detail | (edited)
armitage999 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
I thought League players were too busy playing League to vote in this.

>_>

Oops.


I too thought that not enough LoL folks would hop on GameFAQs to throw a vote Draven's way. That and I somehow assumed Persona had a stronger fanbase, so I picked Chie to win in a squeaker over Draven. Darn it, I'm no expert!

Also, no offense, LoL is a fun game and all, but best community? Say whaaaaaaat?


There's a ton of idiots, but there's a ton of idiots everywhere. Look at Greyfeld, sharing space with guys like you, Rad Link, Ulti, XIII and all the others. Likewise, for all those idiots, LoL has guys like FD, Red13n, JC, and a ton of other good people, and that's without even getting into the many high-level players who crank out all the content for us scrubs to digest and learn. The only communities made up of mostly nice people are the dead ones, and LoL is full of great guys.
#378 | xp1337 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:06:02 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
The sole aim here should be to stop Link at any cost.


I don't think I like you turning into The Illusive Man all of a sudden.

You've sacrificed too much.


Just how it is. It's not ideal, but Link winning in a final he might share with Mario is depressing and the bad ending for this contest.

Go. Draven.

Counterpoint: If Link loses in this contest it just gives Bacon more reason to keep him for the next one.
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#379 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/12/2013 4:06:31 AM | message detail
Some random dude most of the board doesn't care about at all winning the contest is the bad ending for ANY contest.

Give me Link over Draven.

Yeah, I said it.
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#380 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 7/12/2013 4:06:46 AM | message detail
LoL is a fun game and all, but best community? Say whaaaaaaat?

Thats just Kanz saying something....wrong. Horrifically wrong.


Don't care about any of these guys (except Chie, a little, because of WVGCW)

Ditto. I dont care about any of these guys. But Chie's shenanigans in WVGCW made me vote her here.
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#381 | Lopen | Posted 7/12/2013 4:06:49 AM | message detail
Kanzaris doesn't actually connect to 85% of games so it makes sense that he'd underestimate how many terrible people are in LoL's community.
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#382 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:06:59 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
By the way Draven is absolutely slaughtering in mainland Europe for those who care to look past simple rallying/stuffing thoughts.

Like, it is a clinic.


BRITAIN HOLDS!
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#383 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 4:09:17 AM | message detail | (edited)
Achromatic posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Lopen posted...
Honestly more than the message Greyfeld is giving the most embarrassing thing is that this is what causes a man to snap? A random 1 point match between 3 fodders? Unless you're president of the Official Jak Fanclub of America I don't see what the huge deal is here!


Rather than making sweeping assumptions, why don't you ask for clarification of my stance if you don't understand it? Or is it just easier and more convenient to assume that I'm an idiot and keep the circlejerk going?


This isn't a circlejerk btw. We are just stating that you are being pretty melodramatic over a poll. Well, I am stating that. I don't know what the other guys are stating.

Now if you want to plead diminished capacity due to having to deal with kanz we can talk a plea deal...!


My "melodramatics" has nothing to do with a specific poll and everything to do with how letting this single result sit would throw the entire contest out of whack. But I keep hearing "lulz u kant keep pplz from voting!!" instead of actual reasonable discussion. I god ****ed HATE it when people put words in my mouth or don't actually LISTEN to what I'm ****ing saying. It gets under my skin faster than anything else, and totally makes me lose my cool.

Which is probably a bad thing on the internet, but silly me, I thought that people would actually be willing to talk.

The thing with Kanz is another issue altogether. He's being an instigative, lying sack of ****, and I should really just block him before I say anything that gets me a suspension.
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#384 | izNotPerfect | Posted 7/12/2013 4:07:45 AM | message detail
Draven just isn't stopping.

Does LoL rally power have a limit?
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#385 | Lopen | Posted 7/12/2013 4:08:25 AM | message detail
Not till they turn the proxy stuffer off
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#386 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/12/2013 4:08:40 AM | message detail
Draven didn't actually get over 50% that last hour. Rallying slowing down Jak comeback imminent
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#387 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:09:28 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
My "melodramatics" has nothing to do with a specific poll and everything to do with how letting this single result sit would through the entire contest out of whack.


...uh huh.
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#388 | Achromatic | Posted 7/12/2013 4:09:32 AM | message detail
Oh well you can pretty much ignore Kanz, I built up an immunity years ago. My personal problem with you is that you kind of ignore a fair bit of contest lore to have your position. Mario beat Cloud in 2002 due to an official Nintendo rally. Mario versus Crono in 2003 was a heavily rallied match that IMO Crono should have won. Frog has made suspicious comebacks, the backbone of L-Block's championship was the round he beat Link getting 30k more votes than any poll in this site's history. This contest is bathed in the blood of fairness. Objecting now is just silly.
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#389 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:09:39 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
armitage999 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
I thought League players were too busy playing League to vote in this.

>_>

Oops.


I too thought that not enough LoL folks would hop on GameFAQs to throw a vote Draven's way. That and I somehow assumed Persona had a stronger fanbase, so I picked Chie to win in a squeaker over Draven. Darn it, I'm no expert!

Also, no offense, LoL is a fun game and all, but best community? Say whaaaaaaat?


There's a ton of idiots, but there's a ton of idiots everywhere. Look at Greyfeld, sharing space with guys like you, Rad Link, Ulti, XIII and all the others. Likewise, for all those idiots, LoL has guys like FD, Red13n, JC, and a ton of other good people, and that's without even getting into the many high-level players who crank out all the content for us scrubs to digest and learn. The only communities made up of mostly nice people are the dead ones, and LoL is full of great guys.


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#390 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 4:10:36 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
Kanzaris doesn't actually connect to 85% of games so it makes sense that he'd underestimate how many terrible people are in LoL's community.


You wound me Lopen, but my Kanternet got fixed! (Well not now because I just moved and am on wireless, but otherwise!)
#391 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 4:12:08 AM | message detail
nintendogirl2 posted...
Greyfeld posted...
My "melodramatics" has nothing to do with a specific poll and everything to do with how letting this single result sit would through the entire contest out of whack.


...uh huh.


The backpedaling is so bad that he's totally scum.

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#392 | armitage999 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:12:24 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
armitage999 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
I thought League players were too busy playing League to vote in this.

>_>

Oops.


I too thought that not enough LoL folks would hop on GameFAQs to throw a vote Draven's way. That and I somehow assumed Persona had a stronger fanbase, so I picked Chie to win in a squeaker over Draven. Darn it, I'm no expert!

Also, no offense, LoL is a fun game and all, but best community? Say whaaaaaaat?


There's a ton of idiots, but there's a ton of idiots everywhere. Look at Greyfeld, sharing space with guys like you, Rad Link, Ulti, XIII and all the others. Likewise, for all those idiots, LoL has guys like FD, Red13n, JC, and a ton of other good people, and that's without even getting into the many high-level players who crank out all the content for us scrubs to digest and learn. The only communities made up of mostly nice people are the dead ones, and LoL is full of great guys.


Yeah, I probably wasn't playing in the right games. After awhile, with some of the folks I was up against, it became a matter of 'aaaaaa I don't have the time to deal with this and I have too many games to play!'

I'd feel the same about Minecraft but I didn't care for it all that much. What's been going on today's made me curious about what'll happen once it's Steve/Creeper's turn.
#393 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 4:16:54 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Oh well you can pretty much ignore Kanz, I built up an immunity years ago. My personal problem with you is that you kind of ignore a fair bit of contest lore to have your position. Mario beat Cloud in 2002 due to an official Nintendo rally. Mario versus Crono in 2003 was a heavily rallied match that IMO Crono should have won. Frog has made suspicious comebacks, the backbone of L-Block's championship was the round he beat Link getting 30k more votes than any poll in this site's history. This contest is bathed in the blood of fairness. Objecting now is just silly.


Ignoring Kanz would be far more likely if I didn't know he was also on another website I frequent. Mind, I don't stumble across him frequently, but it's a community that's rather prized in its ability for most people to civilly deal with one another. I hate the idea of having to block anyone on there.

As far as those old rallies are concerned, I wasn't around for any of them. I concede that they may be an occurrence that happens from time to time, but I've never seen a major swing like this since I've started frequenting the contests. Considering this is a gamefaqs contest, it doesn't feel right to have thousands of people who never frequent the site pop in and completely change the entire matchup.
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#394 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:18:09 AM | message detail
Honestly, I've come to the point where I've accepted Link winning as a fact of life. It doesn't bother me anymore. He earns it as much as anyone can earn a popularity contest, and hey, if the win is dominant enough, maybe Bacon finally brings back the Tournament of Champions or something similar! In the mean time, I just enjoy the small victories. Like my first successful rally. Actually I was probably happier with that than I would be with Snake beating Link, but I meant small in terms of scope, not joy.

So my point is I'm not going to root for Draven over Link just because Draven is not-Link. A world where Draven wins every contest is even more horrifying to me than the world we have now.
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#395 | Achromatic | Posted 7/12/2013 4:20:13 AM | message detail
There have been much bigger swings than this, I just listed a few examples off the top of my head. D.K. is a choke artist, Starcraft in 2004 as a 16 seed had some pretty grand rallying/cheating adventures. Sballen pretty much encourages this stuff to increase site traffic. Basically the money given out is out of GameFAQs pocket, and increased site traffic justifies that. Results shouldn't be sacred. Basically the reason a lot of us are rolling our eyes is this is pretty standard fair.

And I didn't mean literally ignore Kanz. Perhaps meditation, or therapy.
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#396 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:20:31 AM | message detail
#397 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/12/2013 4:22:00 AM | message detail
Well, one thing to draw from this is that anyone who entertained the idea of Yu beating Shadow should now perish the thought.

Also I've decided to just go all in on the Expert Challenge and predict everything because why not. It's not like I'm going to win anyway. Time to go crazy.
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#398 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/12/2013 4:24:57 AM | message detail
Sooo....I went to bed at 1am and Draven was getting curb stomped. Now he's in 1st place.

the hell happened
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#399 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 4:26:48 AM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
There have been much bigger swings than this, I just listed a few examples off the top of my head. D.K. is a choke artist, Starcraft in 2004 as a 16 seed had some pretty grand rallying/cheating adventures. Sballen pretty much encourages this stuff to increase site traffic. Basically the money given out is out of GameFAQs pocket, and increased site traffic justifies that. Results shouldn't be sacred. Basically the reason a lot of us are rolling our eyes is this is pretty standard fair.

And I didn't mean literally ignore Kanz. Perhaps meditation, or therapy.


I had to take therapy for my anger issues when I was a teenager. I'm far less liable to hurt people or break things when I'm pissed off these days, but I still have a quick temper. It's easier on me and my blood pressure if I can just avoid reading that sort of stuff altogether.

I do my best to be zen about this sort of thing, but when I get my trigger buttons pushed, it's sort of hard to reel myself back in. That's why I usually just walk away when I'm pissed about something. Gives me time to cool my head and think things through properly before I say anything I might later regret.

Personally, I prefer talking through issues like mature adults. Unfortunately, I don't think this is one of those times where it's actually going to happen.
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#400 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 4:27:18 AM | message detail
I've been predicting it all from the beginning because I figured I'd have to just to win.

This is only my fourth six-point match in seven matches. And I've had a zero-point match.

I think the emphasis is less on Expert and more on Challenge.
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