Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1061

#301 | PhoenixNine | Posted 7/12/2013 3:26:05 AM | message detail
AppreciateTrees posted...
PhoenixNine posted...
You guys really expected the largest gaming community in the world to not support their hero?

*shakes head*

This is legit. This is just the beginning. Get over it.


Yeah, the largest gaming community in the world rallied together to defeat the mighty Jak and ****ing Chie Satonaka.


You just wait and see by how much of a margin Draven kicks ass here. If this contest reaches enough LoL players Draven will destroy all opposition, including fan favorites like Link and Cloud.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't give a damn about who wins this contest (I pick my favorites and that would be Chie ;)).
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#302 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:26:09 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
Not that anybody actually cares, but if Bacon lets this result ride as legit, I'll be ducking out of this contest and will never come back for another one. If this were just a fun little contest just for the lulz, that'd be one thing. But when it's actually a contest for prizes and people are allowed to completely swing the results far, far, FAR outside the norm by pulling in outside voters, it makes a complete mockery of our attempt to have a legit and interesting competition.


Oh c'mon Greyfeld, stop being a whiny little loser already. It's been what, years and you've been the same in multiple sites? Nobody gives a damn. Man up already.
#303 | spooky96 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:27:07 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
spooky96 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
Nanis23 posted...
There is nothing bad about rallying
If Riot themselves had a in-game rallying then,and only then, I can understand people crying over it


It imbalances the results, and can be used to screw over people who made otherwise accurate picks.


But this is a popularity contest
Rallying is just giving the site to more people,and if the character is important to them they will vote for it


so you want draven winning the entire contest dont you


No I dont
But I dont think he need to lose to this crappy charcter either


Fair enough. Though if someone to be rallied, it better not be draven, should be an entire gimmick character such as ? Block or Magikarp or something.
#304 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:27:27 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I said basically 0, ngirl. As in, they might be gaining a vote or two every update but yeah. Draven's up ~120 from his normal intake and Jak/Chie aren't up by any noticeable amount. I don't think that's happened in any legitimate rally before. Usually all entrants increase a little and the rallied one increases a lot more.


I put that down to the fact that the opponents are Chie and Jak as opposed to anyone being rallied would ever give a f*** about.
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#305 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:28:13 AM | message detail
nintendogirl2 posted...
So what? There are people saying that they're voting Jak and not actually voting Jak? Surely the people saying they're doing so are actually doing so, so Jak must be higher than he'd be otherwise... right?

The idea is that the amount of people actually clicking through on these rallies and voting is near-negligible considering how many of the people actually posting in them have voted for Jak, and how said votes are barely if at all noticeable in the actual stats.
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#306 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 3:28:54 AM | message detail
Draven vs. Ryu (SF) vs. Mega Man X

2 Capcom characters vs. League of Draven, should be interesting.
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#307 | Lopen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:29:18 AM | message detail
Even if Draven got as much as 90% of rallied votes you'd still notice it in Jak/Chie's votes, though. I mean yeah they're fodder but yeah just not seeing it here.
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#308 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:29:50 AM | message detail
Yeah, it's like when the WoW/SMB rally had people voting for Mario in droves because it was f***ing Mario. If he opponent there was Adventure or an obscure Wonderswan game how many of the rallied votes does WoW hold onto?
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#309 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 7/12/2013 3:31:11 AM | message detail
put that down to the fact that the opponents are Chie and Jak as opposed to anyone being rallied would ever give a f*** about.

Yeah, and that's also why people need to relax about Draven > X. People actually do give a **** about X.
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#310 | Iamthekuzalol | Posted 7/12/2013 3:31:17 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
People getting mad cause their perfect bracket is in jeopardy.


This. The way i look at it, people getting mad at a legitimate and legalized rallying are worse than the ones that are doing the rallying.
#311 | xp1337 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:33:05 AM | message detail
Regardless of whether this is legit or not, what % do you think Draven ends up with here?
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#312 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:33:17 AM | message detail
And the LoL fans in this topic are no worse than this topic has been on days when Pokémon has won big in the face of something, or Mario/Samus or any other occasion where people have seen their character win when it was contested or an upset.
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#313 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 3:33:37 AM | message detail
This will be the highest vote totals so far in the contest, by far.
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#314 | Lopen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:33:54 AM | message detail
Man I have Chie I don't even have a horse in this race. I'm just telling it how it is.
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#315 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:34:31 AM | message detail
PhoenixNine posted...
You just wait and see by how much of a margin Draven kicks ass here. If this contest reaches enough LoL players Draven will destroy all opposition, including fan favorites like Link and Cloud.

This is seriously the funniest sentiment I've seen expressed in any contest in years.

I'm trying to think of a more overhyped character we've had since, like, 2003 when we had stuff like "Luigi is a major threat to Samus." Can't think of one. Though to be fair, I think the only board regulars I've seen saying stuff like this about Draven are big time LoL players, which is tantamount to me claiming No Mercy is gonna roll right over PoR.
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#316 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 3:34:35 AM | message detail
Robazoid posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Not that anybody actually cares, but if Bacon lets this result ride as legit, I'll be ducking out of this contest and will never come back for another one. If this were just a fun little contest just for the lulz, that'd be one thing. But when it's actually a contest for prizes and people are allowed to completely swing the results far, far, FAR outside the norm by pulling in outside voters, it makes a complete mockery of our attempt to have a legit and interesting competition.


You're literally complaining about rallying. How is 'LoL is the greatest game ever' worse than this?


This isn't "just" rallying. It's concentrated poll tampering. It's not like somebody got a couple hundred people to swing around and try to tip a match in the favor of their favorite character. They literally changed the recorded voting trends for this entire contest by pulling this crap. From here on out, the numbers of every character that has a direct match with Draven will be statistical anomalies and completely useless for study and dissection for future matches.

It also sets a precedent for rallying. What's the point in even entering these contests if a well-placed rally can turn a turbofodder character into a high-midcarder? Picking winners for any contest will be pointless, because it'll be based almost completely on luck.
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#317 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/12/2013 3:34:40 AM | message detail
I think Draven probably finishes around 39% because I expect the rally to continue for the reminder of this match. Draven's percentage gains have slowed down lately. Also, the last 3 updates have been 50% or less for Draven, so the rally is starting to slow down.
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#318 | voltch | Posted 7/12/2013 3:35:17 AM | message detail
All fanbases are equally bad :P
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#319 | xp1337 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:35:34 AM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
PhoenixNine posted...
You just wait and see by how much of a margin Draven kicks ass here. If this contest reaches enough LoL players Draven will destroy all opposition, including fan favorites like Link and Cloud.

This is seriously the funniest sentiment I've seen expressed in any contest in years.

I'm trying to think of a more overhyped character we've had since, like, 2003 when we had stuff like "Luigi is a major threat to Samus." Can't think of one. Though to be fair, I think the only board regulars I've seen saying stuff like this about Draven are big time LoL players, which is tantamount to me claiming No Mercy is gonna roll right over PoR.

As someone who had Kerrigan in that "historic" match, Kerrigan.
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#320 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 3:36:01 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Not that anybody actually cares, but if Bacon lets this result ride as legit, I'll be ducking out of this contest and will never come back for another one. If this were just a fun little contest just for the lulz, that'd be one thing. But when it's actually a contest for prizes and people are allowed to completely swing the results far, far, FAR outside the norm by pulling in outside voters, it makes a complete mockery of our attempt to have a legit and interesting competition.


Oh c'mon Greyfeld, stop being a whiny little loser already. It's been what, years and you've been the same in multiple sites? Nobody gives a damn. Man up already.


You don't ****ing know who the hell I am, so don't talk to me like you know me.
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#321 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 3:36:09 AM | message detail
Draven is a new-comer. And he just so happens to be above the fodder line. wh000ps.
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#322 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 7/12/2013 3:37:00 AM | message detail
...welp

thank god Im playing borderlands 2 now
I hate Noxus
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#323 | spooky96 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:37:05 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
I think Draven probably finishes around 39% because I expect the rally to continue for the reminder of this match. Draven's percentage gains have slowed down lately. Also, the last 3 updates have been 50% or less for Draven, so the rally is starting to slow down.


As soon as LoL fans realize that Draven is in danger, the rally will start again.
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#324 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:37:33 AM | message detail
Think 42/43 is probably the absolute cap for this match, but that's if the rally continues at this level for the rest of the match.
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#325 | Achromatic | Posted 7/12/2013 3:37:51 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Not that anybody actually cares, but if Bacon lets this result ride as legit, I'll be ducking out of this contest and will never come back for another one. If this were just a fun little contest just for the lulz, that'd be one thing. But when it's actually a contest for prizes and people are allowed to completely swing the results far, far, FAR outside the norm by pulling in outside voters, it makes a complete mockery of our attempt to have a legit and interesting competition.


Oh c'mon Greyfeld, stop being a whiny little loser already. It's been what, years and you've been the same in multiple sites? Nobody gives a damn. Man up already.


You don't ****ing know who the hell I am, so don't talk to me like you know me.


Dude, it is a rare day in hell when I agree with Kanz over there, but you are literally being melodramatic about an internet popularity contest where everyone is aware rallying can occur. Leave if you want, you are being a drama queen and no one will miss you if this is how you want to act.
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#326 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:38:01 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Not that anybody actually cares, but if Bacon lets this result ride as legit, I'll be ducking out of this contest and will never come back for another one. If this were just a fun little contest just for the lulz, that'd be one thing. But when it's actually a contest for prizes and people are allowed to completely swing the results far, far, FAR outside the norm by pulling in outside voters, it makes a complete mockery of our attempt to have a legit and interesting competition.


Oh c'mon Greyfeld, stop being a whiny little loser already. It's been what, years and you've been the same in multiple sites? Nobody gives a damn. Man up already.


You don't ****ing know who the hell I am, so don't talk to me like you know me.


Sorry, I think I do. Mythweavers? The name Azerian Kelimon ring any bells, that guy who helped you with your houserules repeatedly? You're just as whiny over there as you are here, and I think I'm sick and tired of your *****ing. If you're gonna pollute the air with your complaints, have the decency to pick a single forum and keep your whining there. Thanks, goodbye, and good riddance.
#327 | voltch | Posted 7/12/2013 3:39:11 AM | message detail
People gettin' mad over 2nd round fodder >_>
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#328 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 7/12/2013 3:39:23 AM | message detail
Maybe it's time for bed? We're all getting a little testy.
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#329 | Lopen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:39:38 AM | message detail
This match will finish at around 31k after Bacon strips Draven of 5k votes imhhho
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#330 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:39:55 AM | message detail
Also yeah, seriously, normally rational people are being way too defensive over Draven. Thanks to Draven's huge boost here, I have the right pick in the bracket and full points in my Expert Pick. I'm not holding on to a prayer that I get the match right. This just genuinely looks suspicious.
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#331 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/12/2013 3:40:12 AM | message detail
It's kind of sad that Chie is more likely to get successfully comeback-rallied than Draven is.

Good call, Ulti.

Also, I voted right when I got off work at 4:30. Jak was still winning and Draven was still losing to Chie. Quite a shock to see this when I get home! This is the weirdest trend chart I've ever done.
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#332 | voltch | Posted 7/12/2013 3:40:30 AM | message detail
(I think I picked Draven because of stream rallying logic or something stupid)
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#333 | Rad Link 5 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:41:16 AM | message detail
Although Greyfield is being embarrassing, yeah. He's making a bigger fool of himself than the "LoL is the greatest and gonna curb stomp Link" people.
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#334 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 7/12/2013 3:42:21 AM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
Although Greyfield is being embarrassing, yeah. He's making a bigger fool of himself than the "LoL is the greatest and gonna curb stomp Link" people.


There's more than one person who thinks that? -.-
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#335 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 3:42:28 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Greyfeld posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Not that anybody actually cares, but if Bacon lets this result ride as legit, I'll be ducking out of this contest and will never come back for another one. If this were just a fun little contest just for the lulz, that'd be one thing. But when it's actually a contest for prizes and people are allowed to completely swing the results far, far, FAR outside the norm by pulling in outside voters, it makes a complete mockery of our attempt to have a legit and interesting competition.


Oh c'mon Greyfeld, stop being a whiny little loser already. It's been what, years and you've been the same in multiple sites? Nobody gives a damn. Man up already.


You don't ****ing know who the hell I am, so don't talk to me like you know me.


Sorry, I think I do. Mythweavers? The name Azerian Kelimon ring any bells, that guy who helped you with your houserules repeatedly? You're just as whiny over there as you are here, and I think I'm sick and tired of your *****ing. If you're gonna pollute the air with your complaints, have the decency to pick a single forum and keep your whining there. Thanks, goodbye, and good riddance.


lol helped me with my houserules? You may know my screen name, but you have no idea what the **** you're talking about. The only times I've ever even bothered talking to you is when you tried running those FFRPG games, then ended up falling off the face of the earth like a freaking chump, leaving me and the rest of your players hanging out to dry.

Oh, and a couple times when we happened to be applying to the same game, since I generally try to be civil with people who aren't actively being douchebags. Unfortunately, you seem to have a hard time with that.
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#336 | gaara999999 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:42:43 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
Robazoid posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Not that anybody actually cares, but if Bacon lets this result ride as legit, I'll be ducking out of this contest and will never come back for another one. If this were just a fun little contest just for the lulz, that'd be one thing. But when it's actually a contest for prizes and people are allowed to completely swing the results far, far, FAR outside the norm by pulling in outside voters, it makes a complete mockery of our attempt to have a legit and interesting competition.


You're literally complaining about rallying. How is 'LoL is the greatest game ever' worse than this?


This isn't "just" rallying. It's concentrated poll tampering. It's not like somebody got a couple hundred people to swing around and try to tip a match in the favor of their favorite character. They literally changed the recorded voting trends for this entire contest by pulling this crap. From here on out, the numbers of every character that has a direct match with Draven will be statistical anomalies and completely useless for study and dissection for future matches.

It also sets a precedent for rallying. What's the point in even entering these contests if a well-placed rally can turn a turbofodder character into a high-midcarder? Picking winners for any contest will be pointless, because it'll be based almost completely on luck.


I think you are taking this popularity contest too seriously.
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#337 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 3:42:46 AM | message detail
Draven was the Guru favorite right?
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#338 | PhoenixNine | Posted 7/12/2013 3:43:55 AM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
PhoenixNine posted...
You just wait and see by how much of a margin Draven kicks ass here. If this contest reaches enough LoL players Draven will destroy all opposition, including fan favorites like Link and Cloud.

This is seriously the funniest sentiment I've seen expressed in any contest in years.

I'm trying to think of a more overhyped character we've had since, like, 2003 when we had stuff like "Luigi is a major threat to Samus." Can't think of one. Though to be fair, I think the only board regulars I've seen saying stuff like this about Draven are big time LoL players, which is tantamount to me claiming No Mercy is gonna roll right over PoR.


You don't understand the magnitude of LoL's community. Sheer numbers will overrun the competition.
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#339 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 3:45:16 AM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
Although Greyfield is being embarrassing, yeah. He's making a bigger fool of himself than the "LoL is the greatest and gonna curb stomp Link" people.


Only on GameFAQs would having a legitimate complaint about questionable voting trends be considered "making a fool of one's self."

Well, I guess reddit would too.

And 4chan.

Funny how all these websites seem to regularly interact with one another.
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#340 | nintendogirl2 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:45:44 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Draven was the Guru favorite right?


Gurus went 64% for Draven, 29% Jak, 7% Chie.
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#341 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/12/2013 3:46:49 AM | message detail
Rad Link 5 posted...
Although Greyfield is being embarrassing, yeah. He's making a bigger fool of himself than the "LoL is the greatest and gonna curb stomp Link" people.


It's a rare day when literally Kanzaris has to step forward to call someone out and lay the smackdown, yeah. On the plus side, if he's gone, nothing of value will be lost! On a different, more interesting note since Draven Being Over is a confirmed thing, can I throw something out? I think Teemo is not gonna do as well. Sure, his competition is way stronger to begin with, but I feel like Teemo is like Jak in a way. Liked, but not well-liked. There's too many jokes in the league community about his existence begin a global taunt, and wanting him gone or dead or something of the sort. Why do you non-League guys (and actually, my fellow summoners as well) think he's gonna do better?
#342 | jacko_vdz | Posted 7/12/2013 3:47:09 AM | message detail
God damn, Draven was at 20% last time I checked...

... uh, perfect bracket still alive I guess.

This contest is nuts...
#343 | Robazoid | Posted 7/12/2013 3:47:13 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
Rad Link 5 posted...
Although Greyfield is being embarrassing, yeah. He's making a bigger fool of himself than the "LoL is the greatest and gonna curb stomp Link" people.


Only on GameFAQs would having a legitimate complaint about questionable voting trends be considered "making a fool of one's self."

Well, I guess reddit would too.

And 4chan.

Funny how all these websites seem to regularly interact with one another.


You aren't even complaining about potential stuffing. Your actual opinion is that new people coming to the site don't deserve to vote.
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#344 | VeryInsane | Posted 7/12/2013 3:47:45 AM | message detail
I thought League players were too busy playing League to vote in this.

>_>

Oops.
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#345 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/12/2013 3:49:12 AM | message detail
Robazoid posted...
Greyfeld posted...
Rad Link 5 posted...
Although Greyfield is being embarrassing, yeah. He's making a bigger fool of himself than the "LoL is the greatest and gonna curb stomp Link" people.


Only on GameFAQs would having a legitimate complaint about questionable voting trends be considered "making a fool of one's self."

Well, I guess reddit would too.

And 4chan.

Funny how all these websites seem to regularly interact with one another.


You aren't even complaining about potential stuffing. Your actual opinion is that new people coming to the site don't deserve to vote.


No, that's not my opinion. But thanks for the straw man.
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#346 | xp1337 | Posted 7/12/2013 3:50:05 AM | message detail
PhoenixNine posted...
Rad Link 5 posted...
PhoenixNine posted...
You just wait and see by how much of a margin Draven kicks ass here. If this contest reaches enough LoL players Draven will destroy all opposition, including fan favorites like Link and Cloud.

This is seriously the funniest sentiment I've seen expressed in any contest in years.

I'm trying to think of a more overhyped character we've had since, like, 2003 when we had stuff like "Luigi is a major threat to Samus." Can't think of one. Though to be fair, I think the only board regulars I've seen saying stuff like this about Draven are big time LoL players, which is tantamount to me claiming No Mercy is gonna roll right over PoR.


You don't understand the magnitude of LoL's community. Sheer numbers will overrun the competition.

It's one thing to rally back from an embarrassment against Jak and quite another to take down Link. What's happened here wouldn't be enough. I mean, put Link where Draven is and Link would crush Jak and Chie, he wouldn't be hanging around 40%.
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#347 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/12/2013 3:51:08 AM | message detail
Going back to sleep. Lead is now at 736. gogogo Draven!
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#348 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 7/12/2013 3:51:34 AM | message detail
Whats this about a Draven rework
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#349 | KommunistKoala | Posted 7/12/2013 3:52:23 AM | message detail
#350 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 7/12/2013 3:52:33 AM | message detail
PhoenixNine is just trolling, I think.
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