Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1060

#301 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/11/2013 7:46:08 PM | message detail
I think this next match might have the lowest votals so far unless it's really close and rallies occur.
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#302 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/11/2013 7:49:16 PM | message detail
In before Draven gets last place
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#303 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 7:52:09 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/954437-league-of-legends/66704540

300+ votes
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#304 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/11/2013 7:54:29 PM | message detail
Is he seriously getting less than 70% of the voters on the LoL board to vote for him? Wow, he's screwed
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#305 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 7:55:48 PM | message detail
That is an active board.
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#306 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/11/2013 7:56:18 PM | message detail
I think comparing Demifiend and Chie is going about it the wrong way. Technically, Persona isn't even part of the Shin Megami Tensei series (it was only labeled that way for American release back when Atlus was new in publishing games in America to give it more exposure), and Persona is a far bigger deal than Shin Megami Tensei has ever been. Having a popular fighting game last year with Chie as the most played character is also going to help her too (something I noticed you didn't point out). She's not really aimed at the same gamers that play normal Megaten games.
#307 | Sorozone | Posted 7/11/2013 7:56:34 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Is he seriously getting less than 70% of the voters on the LoL board to vote for him? Wow, he's screwed


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/643003-fire-emblem-awakening/66688743
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#308 | spooky96 | Posted 7/11/2013 7:57:50 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
Then00bAvenger posted...
Is he seriously getting less than 70% of the voters on the LoL board to vote for him? Wow, he's screwed


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/643003-fire-emblem-awakening/66688743


Haha.
#309 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/11/2013 7:59:09 PM | message detail
Pfft, Tharja doesn't need FE fan votes, she squeaked by on her looks
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#310 | spooky96 | Posted 7/11/2013 7:59:31 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Pfft, Tharja doesn't need FE fan votes, she squeaked by on her looks


Her pic was terrible.
#311 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/11/2013 8:02:30 PM | message detail
Hey man, she got that yandere meme both hands on her face look.

Everyone loves yandere
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#312 | spooky96 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:03:41 PM | message detail
Oh well. Maybe I should say I found it terrible.
#313 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 7/11/2013 8:06:03 PM | message detail
I was sort of joking.

But yeah, Getting nearly 2/3rds of the FE fanbase and getting 2/3rds of the LoL fanbase are pretty different. IIRC LoL has like a 15% play rate on this site so he's going to need all the LoL fan support he can get
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#314 | JakTretton | Posted 7/11/2013 8:06:29 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Hey man, she got that yandere meme both hands on her face look.

Everyone loves yandere


http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=571491
#315 | Surskit | Posted 7/11/2013 8:08:23 PM | message detail
Tharja had even less % of the FE:A board voting her and you know how that turned out!

This match is really quite difficult. I feel like Chie is very much second-place material since she will have a fixed amount of backers no matter what, especially in a night match. I just don't feel that amount will be enough to snag first, though, unless votals are really ****. And even if she gets second place, who the heck gets last?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2878

I'd take Lloyd over Chie in a heartbeat, and Jak did come remarkably close to him, and I believe he had a decent match against Ness once. The question is just how much weaker Jak has become since 2007. While not as relevant as then, he's still been releasing games (I believe there was an HD remake collection?). So, uh... how do I even gauge the care levels?

And then there's Draven. A huge wildcard. People either calling him a turd or taking him to first place. People are taking last July's playrate to say Draven will suck it up, but that playrate might have increased since then. Even then, LoL does have one of the most active communities in the site at the moment, and we can't just overlook that entirely. Then again, huge 100+ character cast makes Draven possibly forgettable to the average LoL player. I feel like anybody who played Jak & Daxter or Persona would vote for one of those before Draven.

I JUST HAVE NO IDEA SCREW THIS
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#316 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/11/2013 8:10:44 PM | message detail
It should be mentioned that 4chan loves Persona 4 if it comes down to a close match between Chie and Jak.
#317 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:10:44 PM | message detail
I am completely prepared for one of these characters to just come out and stomp this poll. No idea which, though.
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#318 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 8:13:03 PM | message detail
Sorozone posted...
Then00bAvenger posted...
Is he seriously getting less than 70% of the voters on the LoL board to vote for him? Wow, he's screwed


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/643003-fire-emblem-awakening/66688743


It's too bad that Chie is stronger than Tharja, making this whole discussion moot.
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#319 | LeonhartFone | Posted 7/11/2013 8:13:31 PM | message detail
Another bank for me
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#320 | Nintendoboy375 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:17:39 PM | message detail
I'm so conflicted on this match.

45 minutes to go and I feel confused. Blagh.
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#321 | BeTheMan | Posted 7/11/2013 8:19:26 PM | message detail
Nice level of support, but the votals are less than inspiring:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/641695-persona-4-golden/66705910
#322 | Surskit | Posted 7/11/2013 8:21:57 PM | message detail
I feel like Chie > Jak > Draven at the moment.

- Chie would benefit the most out of the night match. She'll likely get all the JRPG and animu support, and she's susceptible to possible rallying.
- Jak couldn't have fallen off that much since 2007, but the loss of strength will hopefully be enough to give Chie the edge.
- Draven will disappoint and be one of those "this guy would win anywhere but on GameFAQs" cases, and we'll feel silly for overhyping him. Maybe he'd do some damage during a day match, but on a night match it's definitely Chie zone for the first few hours. A quick look at the maps tells us Europe has played LoL even less than the US.
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#323 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 8:24:08 PM | message detail
BeTheMan posted...
Nice level of support, but the votals are less than inspiring:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/641695-persona-4-golden/66705910


Anybody basing their choices on game board polls are in for a rude awakening.

This isn't to say that Draven couldn't win, but just because the LoL board is more active doesn't mean that the LoL community is going to turn out en masse to vote for a character from their game.
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#324 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/11/2013 8:24:23 PM | message detail
LeonhartFone posted...
Another bank for me


one less bracket, etc
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#325 | LeonhartFone | Posted 7/11/2013 8:26:07 PM | message detail
Better than -6
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#326 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/11/2013 8:27:17 PM | message detail
and far worse than +6!

/neverbanking
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#327 | Nintendoboy375 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:28:27 PM | message detail
I wouldn't say that banking takes you out of the running. This match is going to wreck a lot of people, and I highly doubt anyone is going to have a perfect bracket for the entire contest. If you're confident in your 1st place character, it might be worth it to make an attempt for 2nd/3rd place, since you won't be able to lose any points.
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#328 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/11/2013 8:28:38 PM | message detail
Banking is pretty much the surefire way to lose in the Expert Challenge. You can't win without taking risks.
#329 | Sorozone | Posted 7/11/2013 8:30:04 PM | message detail
Nintendoboy375 posted...
If you're confident in your 1st place character, it might be worth it to make an attempt for 2nd/3rd place, since you won't be able to lose any points.


This is they way I see it.

I'm just ending up with 0's though because I keep missing on the 2nd and 3rd spot. :\

Not that I was confident in Tharja, nor am I with Draven, but I'm not banking, ever.
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#330 | xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:32:29 PM | message detail
I told myself I'd follow the statistics on this and just bank if I had no idea what would happen, but that didn't hold up.

time to go ALL IN on Chie > Jak > Draven

-6 here i come. =(
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#331 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/11/2013 8:36:27 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
Banking is pretty much the surefire way to lose in the Expert Challenge. You can't win without taking risks.


I will have to bank on this next match, but only because it's a total crapshoot where all 3 characters have an equal chance of finishing in any order.
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#332 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/11/2013 8:37:11 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
CrushDavis posted...
Banking is pretty much the surefire way to lose in the Expert Challenge. You can't win without taking risks.


I will have to bank on this next match, but only because it's a total crapshoot where all 3 characters have an equal chance of finishing in any order.


But if you pick the right order, you get an advantage over everyone who didn't. If you just play it conservative, you'll never get ahead of the pack.
#333 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 8:37:22 PM | message detail
Draven > Chie > Jak
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#334 | Dr_Football | Posted 7/11/2013 8:38:07 PM | message detail
Im still humored that everyone is still saying banked, when your really just skipping a day, or holding steady
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#335 | creativename | Posted 7/11/2013 8:38:09 PM | message detail
Looks like Aerith stomped Rinoa into the ground juuuust enough to let Hero win...I should have really seen this coming, I mean there's not one FF forum you can frequent where Aerith wouldn't stomp Rinoa into dust. Literally. Probably not even the FF8 forums.

Put Rinoa against virtually anyone but Squall/Aeris/Tifa, and she'd likely do substantially better.

Also I overlooked the fact that "Hero" basically represents the whole DQ series. Whoops.

...Anyway, I have a felling an unusual number of people are going to get -6's on the Draven/Chie/Jak match.

That match screams "completely random winner". It's almost impossible to put the three in any sort of order. Is anyone here not banking that match?

I mean I could see someone picking 1st place, but how the hell do you pick 2nd and 3rd? Picking 1st but banking 2nd and 3rd seems the way to go if you really want to risk something, I think.
#336 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 8:38:37 PM | message detail
BeTheMan posted...
Nice level of support, but the votals are less than inspiring:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/641695-persona-4-golden/66705910


Haha.
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#337 | xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:39:49 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
CrushDavis posted...
Banking is pretty much the surefire way to lose in the Expert Challenge. You can't win without taking risks.


I will have to bank on this next match, but only because it's a total crapshoot where all 3 characters have an equal chance of finishing in any order.


But if you pick the right order, you get an advantage over everyone who didn't. If you just play it conservative, you'll never get ahead of the pack.

If you truly have no idea where anyone will place and you're reduced to just guessing, it's best to bank, you're expected to lose points if you go for it.
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#338 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/11/2013 8:41:44 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
CrushDavis posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
CrushDavis posted...
Banking is pretty much the surefire way to lose in the Expert Challenge. You can't win without taking risks.


I will have to bank on this next match, but only because it's a total crapshoot where all 3 characters have an equal chance of finishing in any order.


But if you pick the right order, you get an advantage over everyone who didn't. If you just play it conservative, you'll never get ahead of the pack.

If you truly have no idea where anyone will place and you're reduced to just guessing, it's best to bank, you're expected to lose points if you go for it.


If you're only guessing, you have just as good of a chance of getting +6 as you are -6. I guess if you want to play it safe and stay alive longer it might be in your best interest to bank, but if you really want to go for it and try to win, its best to take those chances since theres how you win these kinds of contests.
#339 | Nintendoboy375 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:41:46 PM | message detail
If I was perfect already, then I would bank on this match.

Since I've had two consecutive +0s, I can't really afford to do that. I need to make up for lost ground, or else I'll just always be behind. I wish I had gotten the +6 for this match, since it wasn't all that debatable. We wrote off Hero too easily.
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#340 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 8:43:25 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Looks like Aerith stomped Rinoa into the ground juuuust enough to let Hero win...I should have really seen this coming, I mean there's not one FF forum you can frequent where Aerith wouldn't stomp Rinoa into dust. Literally. Probably not even the FF8 forums.

Put Rinoa against virtually anyone but Squall/Aeris/Tifa, and she'd likely do substantially better.

Also I overlooked the fact that "Hero" basically represents the whole DQ series. Whoops.

...Anyway, I have a felling an unusual number of people are going to get -6's on the Draven/Chie/Jak match.

That match screams "completely random winner". It's almost impossible to put the three in any sort of order. Is anyone here not banking that match?

I mean I could see someone picking 1st place, but how the hell do you pick 2nd and 3rd? Picking 1st but banking 2nd and 3rd seems the way to go if you really want to risk something, I think.


After pulling 0 points on two matches in a row, I feel like I have to take a shot on this match or risk losing all chance of ever catching back up.
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#341 | WhiteLens | Posted 7/11/2013 8:44:11 PM | message detail
No Pick > Chie > Chie

I will either gain a point, lose a point, of keep a perfect bracket. Sounds good to me!
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#342 | Iamthekuzalol | Posted 7/11/2013 8:44:15 PM | message detail
Go home or go big. Banking's for the weak!

Guys, get ready to get that legendary -6.
#343 | xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2013 8:44:54 PM | message detail
CrushDavis posted...
xp1337 posted...
CrushDavis posted...
-LusterSoldier- posted...
CrushDavis posted...
Banking is pretty much the surefire way to lose in the Expert Challenge. You can't win without taking risks.


I will have to bank on this next match, but only because it's a total crapshoot where all 3 characters have an equal chance of finishing in any order.


But if you pick the right order, you get an advantage over everyone who didn't. If you just play it conservative, you'll never get ahead of the pack.

If you truly have no idea where anyone will place and you're reduced to just guessing, it's best to bank, you're expected to lose points if you go for it.


If you're only guessing, you have just as good of a chance of getting +6 as you are -6. I guess if you want to play it safe and stay alive longer it might be in your best interest to bank, but if you really want to go for it and try to win, its best to take those chances since theres how you win these kinds of contests.

No you don't.

Let's arbitrarily say it ends up Chie > Jak > Draven

There are 6 possible outcomes:

C/J/D = +6
C/D/J = 0
J/C/D = -4
J/D/C = -6
D/C/J = -6
D/J/C = -2

Only one of those outcomes results in a positive score (+6). Another results in a 0. The rest you lose points on, two of which are -6.

Obviously you don't want to bank all the time, but there shouldn't be all that many matches where you're reduced to pure guessing.
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#344 | creativename | Posted 7/11/2013 8:44:56 PM | message detail
BTW, the hell is up with the terrible fonts? "Aerith" Looks like Re...lowercase 'r'?...ith.

If you asked me to figure out what name that was without a picture, I would be completely lost. I would say "Jumble of Tetris blocks" and be forced to leave it at that.
#345 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 8:45:08 PM | message detail
Nintendoboy375 posted...
If I was perfect already, then I would bank on this match.

Since I've had two consecutive +0s, I can't really afford to do that. I need to make up for lost ground, or else I'll just always be behind. I wish I had gotten the +6 for this match, since it wasn't all that debatable. We wrote off Hero too easily.


Yeah, I'm kicking myself over that one. The thing is, I totally considered taking Hero in second, but then I was like, "Nah, he's too weak to take second place, even on an SFFed Rinoa." I completely underestimated his strength, and it bit me in the butt.
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#346 | CrushDavis | Posted 7/11/2013 8:49:24 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
No you don't.

Let's arbitrarily say it ends up Chie > Jak > Draven

There are 6 possible outcomes:

C/J/D = +6
C/D/J = 0
J/C/D = -4
J/D/C = -6
D/C/J = -6
D/J/C = -2

Only one of those outcomes results in a positive score (+6). Another results in a 0. The rest you lose points on, two of which are -6.

Obviously you don't want to bank all the time, but there shouldn't be all that many matches where you're reduced to pure guessing.


Ah yeah, thats right. Well, I guess there is more risk with banking... but I don't mind, I'm still going with Chie/Jak/Draven tonight. If I lose the bet, oh well, but if I win I'll likely be on the leaderboard so its worth the gamble!
#347 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 8:51:13 PM | message detail
You can only pick 1st and get either +3 or -3.

You can only pick 2nd and get either +2 or -2.

You can only pick 3rd and get either +1 or -1.
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#348 | Xuxon | Posted 7/11/2013 8:52:47 PM | message detail
From: creativename | Posted: 7/11/2013 11:44:56 PM | #344
BTW, the hell is up with the terrible fonts? "Aerith" Looks like Re...lowercase 'r'?...ith.

draven's is even worse. looks like E-Payer or something
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#349 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 8:54:34 PM | message detail | (edited)
My bracket has Jak, but on my expert I'm taking Chie/Jak/Draven. After thinking about it a bit, I decided that Jak has fallen out of relevance and between Persona 4 and League of Legends, he's probably not going to get a whole lot of "don't care" votes. Also, I don't feel like his mascot power is very strong.
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#350 | pjbasis | Posted 7/11/2013 8:54:48 PM | message detail
Hopefully this match is more initially exciting.

Morning comebacks are fun to wake up to, but it's not a good time to be watching
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