Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1060

#101 | swordz9 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:48:05 AM | message detail
Who would rally against a girl who loves meat and can kick tanks and giant robots into orbit. Rallying could do anything and LoL is pretty popular off this site at least. I don't think it'll be a huge victory for Draven if he wins like some people think though. I expect it to be about as close as Tharja/Juliet/Tina.
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#102 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 9:49:47 AM | message detail
Many people believed that Tiny Tina was not well-liked with fans of Borderlands 2.

Yeah, she almost came in 1st.
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#103 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:50:02 AM | message detail
I find it hard to understand why people like FFVIII
But I find it impossible to understand why people like Rinoa
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#104 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/11/2013 9:50:26 AM | message detail
Almost came in first because the other 2 characters were weaker than we expected.
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#105 | pyresword | Posted 7/11/2013 9:51:16 AM | message detail
Dear lord the things you can learn from these maps. Hero is currently winning 6/50 states. Also, a vote was cast from Tanzania before a vote was cast from New Hampshire, which is the only state that has yet to vote.
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#106 | scaryice | Posted 7/11/2013 9:52:01 AM | message detail
I was joking about PS All Stars, but it is pretty impressive that half the characters from that game are in the contest:

Big daddy
Cole
Dante
Drake
Isaac C.
Jak
Kat
Kratos
Raiden
Ratchet
Sackboy
Sly

I don't think Kat gets in without that for sure. If you count Cole/Evil Cole as one character, then 12/23 made it in. Too bad Sweet Tooth has never been in a contest.
#107 | Lopen | Posted 7/11/2013 9:53:27 AM | message detail
Like honestly if Draven were rallied against a character that was actually popular like say Link I could see Link's percentage actually going up from the rally. Draven's only in the contest because the League fanbase couldn't decide on a character the fanbase actually likes and fell back on the meme guy(s). Thing is people don't actually like the character. In fact the meme is almost like, negative, because it's kinda about the guy being OP (which means most people hate him unless they play him)

Only reason I think he has a chance is because well who cares about the other two. A Draven rally might work just because "who are these other two"
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#108 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 9:54:35 AM | message detail
Do you know anyone who is a big Jak fan?
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#109 | pjbasis | Posted 7/11/2013 9:55:03 AM | message detail
Do you know anyone who is a big Tiny Tina fan?

Neither do I
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#110 | Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 7/11/2013 9:55:19 AM | message detail
All the intangibles point to a Draven Victory. I have Jak in my bracket, but at this point I'm convinced that a rally will win it for Draven.
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#111 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 9:56:48 AM | message detail
So, Draven slightly edges out Jak.

Really though, Chie could pull an upset and take 2nd.
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#112 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/11/2013 9:57:09 AM | message detail
Just chiming in with Chris to say that DQV is amazing and so is Hero.
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#113 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2013 10:01:44 AM | message detail | (edited)
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
LoL is the #3 game on the site.


No.
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#114 | 2Dover3D | Posted 7/11/2013 10:01:48 AM | message detail
I'm going with Chie out of pure fanboyism. But I went with Tharja due to the same reason and I went with Hero in 2nd due to my strong anti-FF8 sentiment, so I'm feeling good about it.
#115 | Xuxon | Posted 7/11/2013 10:03:00 AM | message detail
i have Draven in last atm. going for 3 matches in a row of 0 points despite picking in all of them.
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#116 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:07:20 AM | message detail
So 2 things.
1)How many people fell of the leaderboard?
2)First match that the lower seed is winning.
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#117 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:07:30 AM | message detail
MarioSuperstar posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
LoL is the #3 game on the site.


No.

Yes. You can argue how much this means, but it's true.
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#118 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2013 10:10:34 AM | message detail
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
MarioSuperstar posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
LoL is the #3 game on the site.


No.

Yes. You can argue how much this means, but it's true.


Being on the most popular game list doesn't mean squat in these contests. People have used that excuse for years and it's never amounted to anything. Top FAQs an Top Hits don't relate to how popular the game is relative to other games.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4779

This is more of an accurate representation of what to possibly expect from this game in terms of actual play rate. It's probably not as low as that now, though.
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#119 | hylianknight3 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:11:07 AM | message detail
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#120 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 10:12:48 AM | message detail
Chie for 1st. Who's doing it?
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#121 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2013 10:13:19 AM | message detail
And to add on to that, not many PC characters have hope in doing much in these contests. Gordon Freeman is the best we have. Everything weaker has been fodderline at best. Diablo carried the game's name at least.
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#122 | xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:15:11 AM | message detail
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
MarioSuperstar posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
LoL is the #3 game on the site.


No.

Yes. You can argue how much this means, but it's true.

That depends entirely on how you mean that statement.

I mean if someone were to ask "What's the #1 game on this site" I don't think the right answer is "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" in the context of contest discussion. It's "Ocarina of Time."
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#123 | hylianknight3 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:15:27 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Chie for 1st. Who's doing it?


My currently perfect negative bracket.
#124 | ZFS | Posted 7/11/2013 10:16:08 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
I might even play DQV if it has a big amazon price drop again. The P3&4 silent protagonist trio are my favorite silent protagonist, but then again there aren't a whole lot I really care about anyways.


Worth the $40 it's going for on Amazon. Can't get a better DS, or 3DS, game.
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#125 | xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:16:20 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Chie for 1st. Who's doing it?

I am.

Expert Challenge I currently am banking on, we'll see if that changes.
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#126 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:16:53 AM | message detail
MarioSuperstar posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
MarioSuperstar posted...
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
LoL is the #3 game on the site.


No.

Yes. You can argue how much this means, but it's true.


Being on the most popular game list doesn't mean squat in these contests. People have used that excuse for years and it's never amounted to anything. Top FAQs an Top Hits don't relate to how popular the game is relative to other games.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4779

This is more of an accurate representation of what to possibly expect from this game in terms of actual play rate. It's probably not as low as that now, though.

My point was that the game has an active fanbase that could rally for Draven, and as we have seen today, rallies can put you over in close matches. I'm not arguing that masses of casuals are going for Draven.

And again, you said "no" as if to indicate that it was not the #3 game on the site, which is false. No need to strawman me.
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#127 | Lopen | Posted 7/11/2013 10:17:30 AM | message detail
I've got Chie winning. I think P4's fanbase on the site is just barely enough to put her over Jak, who lost to Lloyd a few years ago. Should be close though.

Draven's going to be a joke and will probably struggle to break 25%.
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#128 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:19:01 AM | message detail
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#129 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 7/11/2013 10:21:16 AM | message detail
Wow okay, I thought Hero was a b8 thing and destined to fail.

So what, will Spring Breeze Dancin' pull these shenanigans too?
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#130 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2013 10:22:59 AM | message detail | (edited)
When you said "it's a matter of whether LoL fans care about Draven or not" I was under the impression that you literally thought it was the #3 game of the site in popularity.

Even if LoL fans did care, Draven could still lose, because it's not the #3 most popular game overall on the site. It's just the most searched game. Big difference especially when it comes to actual play rate.
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#131 | ZFS | Posted 7/11/2013 10:24:43 AM | message detail
I don't see the deal with Draven, other than being from League of Legends, which doesn't seem like the sort of game that GameFAQs would take to. A PC exclusive MOBA isn't part of the typical wheelhouse for this site. Jak is kind of whatever - he's so far removed from being relevant and I don't know anyone who actually loves the guy. Chie always seemed like the right choice for that match.
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#132 | OlDirtyNumbers | Posted 7/11/2013 10:25:29 AM | message detail
Can someone link me to the expert challenge leader boards? I can't find them on mobile
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#133 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/11/2013 10:25:43 AM | message detail
I think Draven's 3 Seed has a lot of people psychologically freaked out, when all is means is that he got a rally on a forum during the nomination period.
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#134 | Korayashi | Posted 7/11/2013 10:26:01 AM | message detail
IngmarBirdman posted...
Wow okay, I thought Hero was a b8 thing and destined to fail.

So what, will Spring Breeze Dancin' pull these shenanigans too?


Wouldn't that be great?
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#135 | xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:28:01 AM | message detail | (edited)
OlDirtyNumbers posted...
Can someone link me to the expert challenge leader boards? I can't find them on mobile

They're on the same page as the bracket challenge leaderboards. I don't think there is a separate link.

But here's that link just in case: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/cb9_leaderboard
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#136 | Lopen | Posted 7/11/2013 10:28:11 AM | message detail
If Draven was a character with a good design that the fanbase actually liked like Garen I'd be more inclined to back him. There's definitely potential for a league character to be able to beat a couple of fodder characters. I just don't think Draven is the guy, though.
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#137 | swordz9 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:28:21 AM | message detail
ZFS posted...
swordz9 posted...
I might even play DQV if it has a big amazon price drop again. The P3&4 silent protagonist trio are my favorite silent protagonist, but then again there aren't a whole lot I really care about anyways.


Worth the $40 it's going for on Amazon. Can't get a better DS, or 3DS, game.

That's more than twice what I'd want to pay for a game in a series I haven't enjoyed much. Between 3, 4, 7 and 8 the only one I have liked is 8 and 4&8 are the only ones I finished.
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#138 | redrocket | Posted 7/11/2013 10:29:42 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
If Draven was a character with a good design that the fanbase actually liked like Garen I'd be more inclined to back him. There's definitely potential for a league character to be able to beat a couple of fodder characters. I just don't think Draven is the guy, though.


Why didn't they nominate Garen then?
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#139 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/11/2013 10:29:44 AM | message detail
The LoL fanbase definitely likes Draven, but it's in that 'fan favorite' way and not an 'icon' way. I probably would've taken Garen there, yeah, but not Draven.
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#140 | redrocket | Posted 7/11/2013 10:31:02 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
ZFS posted...
swordz9 posted...
I might even play DQV if it has a big amazon price drop again. The P3&4 silent protagonist trio are my favorite silent protagonist, but then again there aren't a whole lot I really care about anyways.


Worth the $40 it's going for on Amazon. Can't get a better DS, or 3DS, game.

That's more than twice what I'd want to pay for a game in a series I haven't enjoyed much. Between 3, 4, 7 and 8 the only one I have liked is 8 and 4&8 are the only ones I finished.


What was it that made 8 enjoyable for you?
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#141 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 10:31:02 AM | message detail
The reason I picked Jak over Chie was because P4 can be divisive with its female characters. You're talking about an ensemble cast to begin with, but then you have to realize that even fans of P4 may vote against Chie because they shipped Yukiko or Rise or Naoto. You're not just dealing with the character as a Persona 4 proxy, but also as a shipping proxy.
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#142 | swordz9 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:32:31 AM | message detail
redrocket posted...
What was it that made 8 enjoyable for you?

Compared to the others it being 3D and having voice acting helped. Also had characters I liked enough to say I like them. Basically it felt more like the JRPGs I like than the other DQs do I guess.
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#143 | pyresword | Posted 7/11/2013 10:34:48 AM | message detail
People on this board are seriously underestimating Draven. He has a better chance of winning his round 2 match then he does of losing his round 1 match.

Also I'm fairly certain Draven is at absolute worst in the top 10% of champions as far as who would do well in this contest. I can't think of many that would do better then him except like Ashe or something
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#144 | Lopen | Posted 7/11/2013 10:35:09 AM | message detail
People didn't nominate Garen because Draven has the meme and Garen doesn't. There was squabbling over which League guy to back so yeah the ones with the memes were the fallbacks.

Draven and Teemo aren't the two strongest LoL offerings though. Probably not even top 10, though honestly once you get past the first few the strength difference is gonna be minor anyway.
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#145 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:35:34 AM | message detail
Rinoa starting to make cuts?
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#146 | Korayashi | Posted 7/11/2013 10:35:35 AM | message detail
Hero keeps suffering from cuts. He's down 31 votes in 15 minutes. That's no good.
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#147 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/11/2013 10:37:31 AM | message detail
I'm surprised people didn't try to get a female like Ahri or Sona in. Boobs would help, I think.
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#148 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 10:37:31 AM | message detail
I wish I liked the DQ series, I really do. But it always felt like they slapped a fist full of anime stereotypes onto 2-dimensional characters, then shoved them into a pretty world where the bulk of the game is spent grinding out experience points.

I don't mind a game with stereotypes... or grinding... as long as the story or characters are interesting, and the gameplay is fun. But when neither of those things are true, it makes it hard to care.
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#149 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/11/2013 10:38:17 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Many people believed that Tiny Tina was not well-liked with fans of Borderlands 2.

Yeah, she almost came in 1st.


Yet more fuel on the fire for Vaas to beat out his group of turbocrap.
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#150 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/11/2013 10:38:27 AM | message detail
Hey

Play Dragon Quest V
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