Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1060

#1 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/11/2013 9:13:46 AM | message detail
There is a Hero in all of us.



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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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#2 | spooky96 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:14:26 AM | message detail
My Expert Challenge is screwed once again.
#3 | Denzokuken | Posted 7/11/2013 9:14:40 AM | message detail
Now we know why Rinoa never made a contest before. lol
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#4 | Achromatic | Posted 7/11/2013 9:14:44 AM | message detail
I do not give a single **** if this can't possibly last. No ****s are given. Every update the Hero is not doing horribly is a win for justice, glory, and the American way.
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#5 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 9:14:45 AM | message detail
Mine too.
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#6 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 9:15:05 AM | message detail
It's a little early to get all fatalistic, after what Tina pulled during the last match.
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#7 | Natwaf_akidna | Posted 7/11/2013 9:15:13 AM | message detail
WOO the fodder match was fun!
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#8 | KommunistKoala | Posted 7/11/2013 9:15:14 AM | message detail
Seriously though the font for this round ****ing sucks I CAN'T EVEN TELL WHAT THAT RIGHT NAME IS
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#9 | xp1337 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:15:26 AM | message detail
Well, my Expert Challenge is starting to take a very grim turn!

...At least I won't have lost points in a match yet!
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#10 | Kibago | Posted 7/11/2013 9:15:34 AM | message detail
is it too early to overreact and say there's a reason we never see non-Squall FF8 in these things? because...my god
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#11 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/11/2013 9:15:46 AM | message detail
Lopen posted...
I suspected this might happen. Not because anyone actually knows who Hero is, but because Aeris and Rinoa are basically the same character and it's an easy to dislike character. Hero could get 20% just on anti-votes


That's a very good point. I didn't even consider the idea of Hero getting votes because of "not-FFVII" or "not-FFVIII".
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#12 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:15:55 AM | message detail
The thing is, if you try to rally for Rinoa, won't the votes go to Aerith instead?
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#13 | Dilated Chemist (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/11/2013 9:16:54 AM | message detail
Seifer would've made some noise if he weren't up against a character that never loses in Round 1, and another character from Final Fantasy.
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#14 | GloriousSweater | Posted 7/11/2013 9:17:17 AM | message detail
This is some heavy standout factor for Hero against two Final Fantasy chicks. I wonder what percentage of the people voting for him have any idea which game he's even from. Still, Shepard will have a similar advantage next round against two RPG chicks (although it will be diluted since they won't both be from FF), so this doesn't bode very well for Aeris out the gate.
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#15 | Xuxon | Posted 7/11/2013 9:17:38 AM | message detail
From: Zabie_W | Posted: 7/11/2013 12:10:56 PM | #487
Xuxon posted...
From: Zabie_W | Posted: 7/11/2013 12:03:14 PM | #465
Then again, I'm from Europe (Spain to be exact) and we love our Fire Emblem. Had the Lucina v Dracula v Caim been a night match, I belive that Lucina would beat up the competition badly.

Alucard has one of the strongest night votes in the whole field. A day match is probably better for Lucina to be honest.


That's because he's the main character of the, for the most part, regarded as the best Castlevania game.

If it was Lucina vs Alucard, I would say Alucard would win, but Dracula is not Alucard. So I would not go with him.

obviously Alucard would stomp that match, that's not what i'm referring to. i'm just talking about Alucard's night strength relative to his own day strength. he has one of the strongest ratios there, so i'd expect Dracula to be similar.
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#16 | The Real Truth | Posted 7/11/2013 9:17:48 AM | message detail
Hero is also called Hero and if you've ever played any DQ game you know who he is.
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#17 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 9:18:00 AM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
The thing is, if you try to rally for Rinoa, won't the votes go to Aerith instead?


Depends on where you rally from. You'd have to get rallies from very specific boards to push Rinoa ahead without feeding Aerith.
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#18 | Lopen | Posted 7/11/2013 9:18:36 AM | message detail
Well I don't just mean they're girls from FFVII and FFVIII

I mean they're literally the same character. Rinoa is just a more intense version of it.
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#19 | junk_funk | Posted 7/11/2013 9:18:50 AM | message detail
I can't get it out of my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs-MeZBGJ_k
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#20 | superange128 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:18:55 AM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
This is some heavy standout factor for Hero against two Final Fantasy chicks. I wonder what percentage of the people voting for him have any idea which game he's even from. Still, Shepard will have a similar advantage next round against two RPG chicks (although it will be diluted since they won't both be from FF), so this doesn't bode very well for Aeris out the gate.


unless it's FemShep again hurhur
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#21 | GloriousSweater | Posted 7/11/2013 9:19:06 AM | message detail
Also, Rinoa is doing better against Aeris than we've typically seen from the FF7/8 split in the past. The Cloud/Squall and Cloud/Seph vs. Squall/Seifer matches have all ended in at least triplings, IIRC.
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#22 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/11/2013 9:19:29 AM | message detail
Unreal. Hero's gonna beat Rinoa. Well done. I had that in my expert until an hour ago then I changed it. Oh well. My only consolation is that Aeris>Rinoa>Hero was probably the most popular pick and that I won't lose too much ground on everyone else with this.
#23 | ffmasterjose | Posted 7/11/2013 9:19:43 AM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
Seifer would've made some noise if he weren't up against a character that never loses in Round 1, and another character from Final Fantasy.


Honestly, Celes is the only thing that screws Seifer. I would've definitely taken him to beat Knux if the third opponent had been a non-factor.
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#24 | scaryice | Posted 7/11/2013 9:20:21 AM | message detail
Rallied so hard last night for Tina, but it just fell short. #2 post on r/borderlands, #7 post on r/borderlands2. Got a link posted here too: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tiny-Tina/461805067171803. At the end I was trying to go into a couple Twitch streams and talk about it, but I don't think that helped. Oh well.

I guess maybe without any of that, Tharja just slowly gains throughout the entire night. Who knows. I had fun though. Sorry Tina, we almost did it!
#25 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/11/2013 9:20:22 AM | message detail
Yeeeeees Hero
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#26 | pyresword | Posted 7/11/2013 9:20:22 AM | message detail
That just dilutes the effect of rallying though it doesn't make them worthless. Final Fantasy is a large enough fanbase that I could easily see rallies still having an impact on the 2nd place match even if 2/3 of the rally votes go to Aerith
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#27 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/11/2013 9:20:47 AM | message detail
Second match in a row that I end up with 0 points in the Expert Challenge thanks to messing up 2nd and 3rd place. Damn, I think I'll just completely bank on the next match because these matches are really giving me a lot of trouble already.
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#28 | Iamthekuzalol | Posted 7/11/2013 9:21:07 AM | message detail
Voted for Rinoa but yeah, Hero's looking real good.
#29 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 7/11/2013 9:21:13 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
The thing is, if you try to rally for Rinoa, won't the votes go to Aerith instead?


Depends on where you rally from. You'd have to get rallies from very specific boards to push Rinoa ahead without feeding Aerith.


Not really. Even if 60% of votes from an attempted Rinoa rally went to Aeris, that's still a lot more votes coming in for Rinoa than you would have otherwise had. Remember, no one would think of getting Rinoa a win with a rally. They'd just need to push her past Hero.
#30 | homsar555 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:21:26 AM | message detail
Only one perfect -30 left.
#31 | vcharon | Posted 7/11/2013 9:22:34 AM | message detail
Yeah I'm not sure I get it... a character from a pretty old and niche game shouldn't be able to put up this performance. I'm still expecting this to die off, but maybe not.
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#32 | Zabie_W | Posted 7/11/2013 9:22:41 AM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
From: Zabie_W | Posted: 7/11/2013 12:10:56 PM | #487
Xuxon posted...
From: Zabie_W | Posted: 7/11/2013 12:03:14 PM | #465
Then again, I'm from Europe (Spain to be exact) and we love our Fire Emblem. Had the Lucina v Dracula v Caim been a night match, I belive that Lucina would beat up the competition badly.

Alucard has one of the strongest night votes in the whole field. A day match is probably better for Lucina to be honest.


That's because he's the main character of the, for the most part, regarded as the best Castlevania game.

If it was Lucina vs Alucard, I would say Alucard would win, but Dracula is not Alucard. So I would not go with him.

obviously Alucard would stomp that match, that's not what i'm referring to. i'm just talking about Alucard's night strength relative to his own day strength. he has one of the strongest ratios there, so i'd expect Dracula to be similar.


Fair point, although I personally belive that Dracula would not have a similar ratio compared to Alucard.

Then again, Lucina v Dracula is a day match so we will never know :V
#33 | Greyfeld | Posted 7/11/2013 9:22:50 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Unreal. Hero's gonna beat Rinoa. Well done. I had that in my expert until an hour ago then I changed it. Oh well. My only consolation is that Aeris>Rinoa>Hero was probably the most popular pick and that I won't lose too much ground on everyone else with this.


I considered the idea that Aerith would totally eat Rinoa's votes, giving Hero the chance to slip into second, but I threw it away because I assumed that Hero would be weak enough that no amount of SFF in the world could put him in that spot.

I should really learn not to underestimate the niche fanbases that make their home on this website.
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#34 | pjbasis | Posted 7/11/2013 9:23:35 AM | message detail
I think the truly surprising here is that Aerith isn't even doing that good a job of SFFing Rinoa.

That's pretty much where I expected Rinoa to be but Hero is just blowing that up!
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#35 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:23:46 AM | message detail
How many people fell off the leaderboard?
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#36 | swordz9 | Posted 7/11/2013 9:24:36 AM | message detail
I expect Rinoa to eventually pass Hero and then never let go of the lead. Hero won't last long.
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#37 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/11/2013 9:24:40 AM | message detail
junk_funk posted...
I can't get it out of my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs-MeZBGJ_k


did someone actually paste a rap song in the topic?

(I don't mean this in a degrading way btw Nas is a legend; just holy crap Board 8 links Nas to Dragon Quest)
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#38 | The Real Truth | Posted 7/11/2013 9:24:54 AM | message detail
vcharon posted...
Yeah I'm not sure I get it... a character from a pretty old and niche game shouldn't be able to put up this performance. I'm still expecting this to die off, but maybe not.


Because he's not just from one game. Reasons why he's in second here:

1. He's like a light version of Link. "Hero" is the default name of every DQ lead.

2. His name is Hero.

3. Rinoa is getting SFF'd.

4. Hero is an alternative to two FF chicks and the only dude in the match.

5. Rinoa looks like a dude in that picture.
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#39 | PSI_NESS | Posted 7/11/2013 9:25:39 AM | message detail
scaryice posted...
Rallied so hard last night for Tina, but it just fell short. #2 post on r/borderlands, #7 post on r/borderlands2. Got a link posted here too: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tiny-Tina/461805067171803. At the end I was trying to go into a couple Twitch streams and talk about it, but I don't think that helped. Oh well.

I guess maybe without any of that, Tharja just slowly gains throughout the entire night. Who knows. I had fun though. Sorry Tina, we almost did it!


Are you going to rally for face mcshooty and Jack too?
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#40 | MarquessLaus | Posted 7/11/2013 9:25:51 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Greyfeld posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
The thing is, if you try to rally for Rinoa, won't the votes go to Aerith instead?


Depends on where you rally from. You'd have to get rallies from very specific boards to push Rinoa ahead without feeding Aerith.


Not really. Even if 60% of votes from an attempted Rinoa rally went to Aeris, that's still a lot more votes coming in for Rinoa than you would have otherwise had. Remember, no one would think of getting Rinoa a win with a rally. They'd just need to push her past Hero.


I'd sure like to know what FF forums you frequent.
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#41 | pjbasis | Posted 7/11/2013 9:26:31 AM | message detail
At least I feel good about Shepard though!
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#42 | vcharon | Posted 7/11/2013 9:26:35 AM | message detail
Yeah no... he is not Link, even a light version. In name alone, but not in image, character, etc. Big difference.
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#43 | Achromatic | Posted 7/11/2013 9:27:08 AM | message detail
Actually let's get something straight. The Hero of DQV is vastly different from every other lead in DQ history and is in legitimate elite company in silent protagonists. Like, he is legitimately the best character here.

But hey if people need a Hero, I'm fine with that.
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#44 | vcharon | Posted 7/11/2013 9:28:32 AM | message detail
Cut by Rinoa.
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#45 | Achromatic | Posted 7/11/2013 9:28:40 AM | message detail
Hero % getting taken by Aerith, don't care, yayayay.
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#46 | pjbasis | Posted 7/11/2013 9:28:41 AM | message detail
I'm sure he's doing this well because he looks like a representative of the whole series.

I mean, he does look like all of them, especially the DQVIII guy
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#47 | muddersmilk | Posted 7/11/2013 9:28:57 AM | message detail
Come on Hero, you can do it!
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#48 | Xuxon | Posted 7/11/2013 9:29:04 AM | message detail
From: vcharon | Posted: 7/11/2013 12:28:32 PM | #044
Cut by Rinoa.

not a cut, but Hero's gains are slowing and he's bleeding %
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#49 | vcharon | Posted 7/11/2013 9:29:34 AM | message detail
"Whoops" at my quickmath there. But very slight gain there, stall.
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#50 | The Real Truth | Posted 7/11/2013 9:30:07 AM | message detail
I'm not calling him Link. All I'm simply saying is people know Hero is from DQ. DQ8 was pretty popular. Everyone who played that game can tell this guy is from DQ.
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