Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1058

#1 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/9/2013 11:47:04 AM | message detail
Reminder: Alan Wake is getting quadrupled by Waluigi.

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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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#2 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 7/9/2013 11:48:57 AM | message detail
TOO BAD

WALUIGI TIME
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#3 | The_Djoker | Posted 7/9/2013 11:50:28 AM | message detail | (edited)
This will go down as the worst contest of all time.

eDIT: 2nd worst after Rival Battle.
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#4 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 7/9/2013 11:51:23 AM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
This will go down as the worst contest of all time.

eDIT: 2nd worst after Rival Battle.


Have you done anything besides whine today? Every time I see you in a topic, you're whining about yet another thing.
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#5 | Zylothewolf | Posted 7/9/2013 11:51:43 AM | message detail
Alan Wake > Tanner
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#6 | superange128 | Posted 7/9/2013 11:51:57 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
The_Djoker posted...
This will go down as the worst contest of all time.

eDIT: 2nd worst after Rival Battle.


Have you done anything besides whine today? Every time I see you in a topic, you're whining about yet another thing.


most likely trolling, I even almost responded to him
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#7 | special_sauce | Posted 7/9/2013 12:40:40 PM | message detail
Man I wish I had played Alan Wake more than a day before the contest
I forgot to change my expert bracket once I realized what a ****ing terrible character / game Alan Wake is

God it's the worst.
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#8 | Articuno2001 | Posted 7/9/2013 12:44:05 PM | message detail
I still have Alan Wake sitting in my backlog.

one of these days
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#9 | Polycosm | Posted 7/9/2013 12:47:07 PM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
This will go down as the worst contest of all time.

One less bracket?
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#10 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/9/2013 12:50:21 PM | message detail
superange128 posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
The_Djoker posted...
This will go down as the worst contest of all time.

eDIT: 2nd worst after Rival Battle.


Have you done anything besides whine today? Every time I see you in a topic, you're whining about yet another thing.


most likely trolling, I even almost responded to him


Naw, this dude is consistently terrible, has been for months.

special_sauce posted...
Man I wish I had played Alan Wake more than a day before the contest
I forgot to change my expert bracket once I realized what a ****ing terrible character / game Alan Wake is

God it's the worst.


I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all this top tier music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeSUvoY2oUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M1k1tgq87g
#11 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 7/9/2013 12:58:34 PM | message detail
So what does everyone make of this battle so far?

I'm pretty impressed by Waluigi, I think he could win a match against some fodder opponents, maybe even beat guys like Pac-Man possibly. Raiden looks ok, but I still can't really gauge his strength very well.

And is Link getting 72% still a bit low for him? I think it just means Isaac has more strength than we thought he would honestly.
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#12 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 7/9/2013 12:59:55 PM | message detail
Masato_Tanaka posted...
So what does everyone make of this battle so far?

I'm pretty impressed by Waluigi, I think he could win a match against some fodder opponents, maybe even beat guys like Pac-Man possibly. Raiden looks ok, but I still can't really gauge his strength very well.

And is Link getting 72% still a bit low for him? I think it just means Isaac has more strength than we thought he would honestly.


Link is fine. Hard to gauge Raiden, but I think he's being hurt by the lack of casual voters.
#13 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 7/9/2013 1:01:24 PM | message detail
just got back from work lol alan wake

I'm postin these everywhere cuz I have no idea if anyone's seen them yet or not:

http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5145.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5146.jpg

my kain
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#14 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/9/2013 1:01:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think people just forgot what the threshold for blowouts in multi-way battles it (I know I did). Link "only" managed 70% in his best 4-way showing with a character that would probably lose to Tingle, and that was a 24 hour match. He surely would have hit 75% or better today if the match kept going.
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#15 | The Mana Sword | Posted 7/9/2013 1:02:00 PM | message detail
oh god femshep
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#16 | swirIdude | Posted 7/9/2013 1:03:18 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
just got back from work lol alan wake

I'm postin these everywhere cuz I have no idea if anyone's seen them yet or not:

http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5145.jpg
http://img.gamefaqs.net/images/cbnine/battle/5146.jpg

my kain


Literally just went to those URLs a few minutes ago and they weren't up =O
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#17 | swirIdude | Posted 7/9/2013 1:03:18 PM | message detail
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#18 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/9/2013 1:04:37 PM | message detail
First time Shepard gets a FemShep picture. Would be interesting to see how it affects Shepard. At least Shepard is getting that picture in round 1, as he has no chance of losing to Olimar or Kain in this match.
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#19 | swirIdude | Posted 7/9/2013 1:05:00 PM | message detail
Can't wait to see if Shepard suffers from the FemShep pic. I imagine Allen will use one again next round for a three-way female battle and it may be Shep's undoing.
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#20 | SonicRaptor | Posted 7/9/2013 1:06:27 PM | message detail
Masato_Tanaka posted...
So what does everyone make of this battle so far?

I'm pretty impressed by Waluigi, I think he could win a match against some fodder opponents, maybe even beat guys like Pac-Man possibly. Raiden looks ok, but I still can't really gauge his strength very well.

And is Link getting 72% still a bit low for him? I think it just means Isaac has more strength than we thought he would honestly.


Waluigi is doing what I expected. Everyone thought the guy was going to flop this contest because of the perception Nintendo fandom doesn't really like him, but it didn't turn out that way at all. He would for sure win fairly handily against fodder opponents. Raiden is also doing what I expected, nothing really of note there.

Yes, Link getting 72% is very low because not only are Isaac and Tingle really fodder characters Tingle's inclusion alone should have gotten Link many more votes. As you mentioned, the theory now is maybe Isaac is just stronger than we thought (Binding of Isaac does have a fanbase) rather than Link getting anti-voted by people that don't want to see him win again or Nintendo being unpopular at the moment due to the Wii U's struggles. We'll see in R2 which theory holds, I guess.
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#21 | pyresword | Posted 7/9/2013 1:06:55 PM | message detail
God I picked Aerith as soon as brackets were up, and I never looked back until I changed to Shepard with 6 hours before brackets closed. I am going to be so upset if I get that pick wrong because of FemShep.
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#22 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/9/2013 1:18:29 PM | message detail
EXPERT Challenge: Solaire vs. Demi-Fiend

Who ya got?
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#23 | SonicRaptor | Posted 7/9/2013 1:19:54 PM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
EXPERT Challenge: Solaire vs. Demi-Fiend

Who ya got?


Solaire > Demi-Fiend because Dark Souls has a pretty damn tight-knit fanbase to say the least. You cannot mention Dark Souls without them coming out of the woodwork.
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#24 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/9/2013 1:23:32 PM | message detail
lol Female Shepard, I was already expecting Shepard to underperform to the board's standard.

Also for the last two hours Raiden has gotten 55.35% on Waluigi, not quite the percent he had before the rally, but he has been increasing since then.
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#25 | Zylothewolf | Posted 7/9/2013 1:27:04 PM | message detail
FemShep is the only Shepard. Jennifer Hale > Whoever did the male voice.
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#26 | SonicRaptor | Posted 7/9/2013 1:27:14 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm calling this match as Waluigi being stronger than we all predicted and Alan Wake is predictably fodder.
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#27 | Iamthekuzalol | Posted 7/9/2013 1:47:14 PM | message detail
I think Raiden looks fine here, Waluigi's probably stronger than what people are willing to give credit for and he was inflated earlier thanks to /v/ rallying.
#28 | pirate109 | Posted 7/9/2013 1:48:16 PM | message detail
Gah need Raiden to stay below 48
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#29 | LionInAComa | Posted 7/9/2013 1:48:23 PM | message detail
adam Wake, more like adam weak am i rite
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#30 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/9/2013 1:51:56 PM | message detail
Waluigi literally broke 40% in a poll before Wario did.
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#31 | foxhead84 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:16:54 PM | message detail | (edited)
It sucks that we can't see our current score in the expert challenge... (we can for the bracket)

It will be hard to keep track of it as we progress
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#32 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/9/2013 2:28:12 PM | message detail
The expert challenge score will hopefully show up in a few days, we can hope.

Anyone banking on Tharja/Juliet/Tina?
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#33 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:29:54 PM | message detail
If Raiden hadn't a game,would he win in this poll?
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#34 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:30:56 PM | message detail
I am, but I'm playing it relatively safe in the first round.
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#35 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:37:43 PM | message detail
I have no idea how Tharja/Juliet/Tina is going to end up. We have a supporting TJF character from a reasonably popular and well-liked game, a TJF main character from a reasonably popular game that got mediocre reviews, and a minor character from the GotY 2012. I have Tharja in my bracket, but I'm skipping this one for the Expert challenge.
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#36 | TheArkOfTurus | Posted 7/9/2013 2:40:15 PM | message detail
I don't know how much it's going to matter, but less than 20% of ME3 players played as Female Shepard.

(Major Mass Effect 3 spoilers in the link)

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Impressive-Mass-Effect-3-Stats-Now-Available-via-Infographic-339992.shtml
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#37 | pyresword | Posted 7/9/2013 2:40:39 PM | message detail
Not banking in a single match. Go big or go home.

I should mention this strategy has already lost me three points in the first match
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#38 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:45:55 PM | message detail
If FemShep was on round 2 that would be bad,but since it is in the first round it doesn't affect anything.
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#39 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:50:41 PM | message detail
A problem for Tharja is that she could lose her TJF. This is her in-game picture and I wouldn't put it past SBAllen to use it.

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_89096.jpg
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#40 | Nanis23 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:52:12 PM | message detail
I am actually very interested in watching how Fire Emblem Awakening characters will do
They got like..3 characters in? and pretty high seeds too
But this is just one game and a fresh one,so I wonder...
#41 | jacko_vdz | Posted 7/9/2013 2:54:55 PM | message detail
Wake up to see Alan Wake actually doing worse than SFF'd Tingle.
#42 | superange128 | Posted 7/9/2013 2:57:07 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
A problem for Tharja is that she could lose her TJF. This is her in-game picture and I wouldn't put it past SBAllen to use it.

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_89096.jpg


that's why I hope SBAllen uses the match pic I made out of this for maximum enjoyment

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/vir9F7bcONA/maxresdefault.jpg
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#43 | jacko_vdz | Posted 7/9/2013 3:01:18 PM | message detail
Seriously though, I'm putting that performance by Link down to anti votes. I just can't see Isaac being worth a damn thing, and lol tingle.

I still would love to see Link get beaten, but I think he's going to look a lot better later on when anti votes don't matter so much, similar to FF7/Pokemon in previous contests.
#44 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/9/2013 3:01:47 PM | message detail
Raiden really killing it now, 61.75% on Waluigi in the last 30 minutes (though only 52.73% in the 30 minutes before that, I assume rallying in that blip)
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#45 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/9/2013 3:02:55 PM | message detail
Seriously though, I'm putting that performance by Link down to anti votes. I just can't see Isaac being worth a damn thing, and lol tingle.

I agree, Thrall broke 20% on Link in the first round in 2010 too and that didn't stop him.
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#46 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/9/2013 3:15:58 PM | message detail
Almost 68% update there.
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#47 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 7/9/2013 3:16:12 PM | message detail
Who's the least-voted contest entrant of all time? With vote totals like these I would be surprised if the record wasn't broken this summer.
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#48 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 7/9/2013 3:31:31 PM | message detail
With these votals, my tiebreaker looks pretty bad. Hopefully, votals will go up in later rounds as usual and there'll be some rallying for Snake/Cloud and then rallying for Link later in the match so that my tiebreaker will still look decent.

Not that it matters very much.
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#49 | superange128 | Posted 7/9/2013 3:33:20 PM | message detail
yeah I assume a big part of the low votes is lots of fodder. Once we get to all (or mostly) noble 9 matches we should be getting at least 50,000
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#50 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 7/9/2013 3:37:10 PM | message detail
superange128 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
A problem for Tharja is that she could lose her TJF. This is her in-game picture and I wouldn't put it past SBAllen to use it.

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_89096.jpg


that's why I hope SBAllen uses the match pic I made out of this for maximum enjoyment

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/vir9F7bcONA/maxresdefault.jpg


That would be for naught if he put it alongside my Juliet.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b621/NurseScrewberry/juliet2_zpscb63da02.png
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