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What is the biggest possible upset in this contest to you guys? And I'm talking points wise, so moreso upsets in the later rounds then the round 1/round 2 stuff.
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Mega Man to the finals when Lightning beats charizard/zelda and clears the path for Mega Man to beat mario/samus

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whee.
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Mega Man would get LFF'd by Mario and Samus, too, though!
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Whoa are you really thinking Lightning over Zard/Zelda is possible or are you just ****ing with me? Cause damn that seems like a stretch haha.
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Not nearly as bad. Get that "basically Nintendo" stuff out of my face, it is gross.

(My bracket is filled with a few odd ball stuff like that just to try to predict some fun upsets)
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Masato_Tanaka posted...

Whoa are you really thinking Lightning over Zard/Zelda is possible or are you just ****ing with me? Cause damn that seems like a stretch haha.

I am going with it, yes. Lightning being pretty strong, Zard coming back to earth, Zelda not being particularly exciting.

It is my upset special!... Which will probably crash and burn.
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Not nearly as badly, true, but even when presented with a similar opportunity in the past, Mega Man couldn't take advantage of it.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2911
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Haste_2 posted...

Wait, there are voters from Greenland?

Yes, there are voters from Greenland. Greenland has voted in most of our polls over the past 30 days.
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Masato_Tanaka posted...

What is the biggest possible upset in this contest to you guys? And I'm talking points wise, so moreso upsets in the later rounds then the round 1/round 2 stuff.

I feel like there's more potential for upsets this year than normally, simply because of the 2.5 year gap between character battles. Some characters are gonna be stronger than we think. New characters probably won't shock anyone, simply because they're too new and not enough people have played those games.

However, I think some returning characters from this generation are good bets to be stronger this time around. People like Drake, Glados, Lightning, and Shepard. I actually have Drake winning two matches in my bracket, we'll see how stupid that looks in a couple weeks. Still have Charizard over Lightning, though I'm tempted to change it. Hmm...

As for points-wise, since I don't have a second Nintendo character with Pikachu/Sora, I have Pikachu winning the division. That's not too popular according to the BOP:

29-Sora
10-Pikachu
09-Crono
01-Steve

What day do matches start?
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June 9th at 12 AM EDT.
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July, not June.
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July 8 9 PM PST/ July 9 Midnight EST?
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Oh s***, my bracket was set as a fun entry. Good thing I caught that!
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Can Fox wins his match?There is his enemy there and Blue too.What do you think?
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I feel pretty confident about Fox winning. Blue shouldn't be that strong on his own, likely weaker than Red, and Fox will probably SFF Wolf way more than Wolf will LFF Fox. LFF would be more likely to happen if they were from different Nintendo series. But pretty much everyone will side with Fox here.
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I'm pretty sure Fox is strong enough that Blue has to be stronger then Red in order to win. I currently have Fox, but I think its entirely possible that Blue ends up stronger and wins. I wouldn't pick Blue though unless you think he ends up noticeably stronger then Red or you think that both trainers have received a massive boost since 2010. (I should clarify I think both are definitely possible, however)
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Achromatic posted...

Mega Man to the finals when Lightning beats charizard/zelda and clears the path for Mega Man to beat mario/samus

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whee.

...It's Mega Man. Last time he shared a poll with Zero, he ended up narrowly losing to the Weighted Companion Cube (although that was just a weird poll in general--somehow Zero actually went from getting doubled by Snake while advancing in second place the previous round to not getting doubled by Snake while being SFFed into 4th place by Mega Man, which either means that Mega Man was holding Snake back and actually could've beaten Snake straight-up without Zero there or Snake was SFFing someone, probably Hayabusa, into the ground in R2. Judging by the way Snake's percentage relative to the Cube shot up the next round when the Mega Man duo was replaced with Cloud and Mewtwo, the "logical" conclusion, which makes no sense at all, is the former. Though you could probably use Pikachu's knockout of L-Block that year to make a case for "Pokémon is the anti-joke factor; Mewtwo weakened WCC"...again, maybe it's best to just say "lol fourways" rather than trying to figure that stuff out). Also, remember that that wasn't even the only time Zero stood up to SFF.

Summer 2004 Contest Round 3: Mega Man defeats Zero with 56.01% of the vote.

That still ranks among the ten closest SFF 1v1 matches involving a Noble Niner. It's among the five closest if you exclude Cloud vs. Sephiroth matches due to both being Noble Niners, or if you exclude Crono vs. New Square matches. Here's the list of closest same-company Noble Nine matches (sorry, fans of the "Mega Man and Sonic are basically Nintendo" theory, but matches between them and true Nintendo characters aren't going to be here).

1. Cloud vs. Sephiroth 2003, 51.89% victory for Cloud
2. Mario vs. Charizard 2010, 53.59% victory for Mario
3. Crono vs. Auron 2006, 54.50% victory for Crono
4. Samus vs. Zelda 2006, 55.27% victory for Samus
5. Crono vs. Vincent 2005, 55.38% victory for Crono
6. Cloud vs. Sephiroth 2004, 56.00% victory for Cloud
7. Mega Man vs. Zero 2004, 56.01% victory for Mega Man
8. Sephiroth vs. Tifa 2010, 56.16% victory for Sephiroth
9. Mega Man vs. Ryu 2006, 58.04% victory for Mega Man
10. Samus vs. Ganondorf 2005, 59.66% victory for Samus

(The next one's Mario vs. Samus 2005, 59.79% victory for Mario, because lol at Mega Man-Ryu being on this list, even though they are both Capcom.)

Now go back to any contest where you can make a legit comparison between the two main Mega Man series. Spring 2006, the series contest itself, is the only one where Classic looks better. X and Zero both outperformed their classic counterparts in the 2010 X-stats--heck, MMX managed to do better against Link in 2010 than Mega Man did in 2004, even though Capcom's gross mismanagement of the franchise would lead you to expect that a Link-Mega match wouldn't be anywhere near as close in 2010 as in 2004--and Team MMX easily outperformed Team Mega in Rivalry Rumble, by the simple logic that Team MMX not getting doubled by Team Mario while Team Mega got tripled by Team Link could only possibly favor Team Mega if Team Mario can't break 40% on Team Link, which they easily did. Yes, it would be a far clearer comparison if Mega's partner was Protoman, the classic series counterpart to Zero, but it's still not a promising sign. The practical upshot of this is that Zero's extremely dangerous for Mega Man, probably even moreso than Magus is for Crono, but the fact that we're favoring Char over Zelda probably means Mega's screwed no matter who wins that match because while Char's suspected to have an inflated value, I'd easily take Zelda's known strength over Zero-leeched Mega.
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ctesjbuvf posted...

I feel pretty confident about Fox winning. Blue shouldn't be that strong on his own, likely weaker than Red, and Fox will probably SFF Wolf way more than Wolf will LFF Fox. LFF would be more likely to happen if they were from different Nintendo series. But pretty much everyone will side with Fox here.

...I don't think that's how it works. LFF is just the flip side of SFF. If there's any SFF involved, and the poll isn't a 1v1, then there's also LFF involved. Now, this match is a little weird because there are varying degrees of SFF, in that all three characters are from the same company but two are from the same game. I think you're probably right that Fox will be able to handle it, but that's not the way it works.
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Didn't Zelda put up consistently disappointing performances last time?
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Didn't Zelda put up consistently disappointing performances last time?

Only if you believed the 2006 poll or if you thought Zelda was equal to the square near-elites.
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Pretty sure that's how it works when there's only Nintendo characters in the poll. Unless Fox SFFs both Blue and Wolf, but SFF usually doesn't hurt Pokemon.
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pyresword posted...

I'm pretty sure Fox is strong enough that Blue has to be stronger then Red in order to win. I currently have Fox, but I think its entirely possible that Blue ends up stronger and wins. I wouldn't pick Blue though unless you think he ends up noticeably stronger then Red or you think that both trainers have received a massive boost since 2010. (I should clarify I think both are definitely possible, however)

I don't think it would have to be a massive boost. For one thing, Fox's only new game since 2010 was the 3DS rerelease of SF64, which doesn't really help him in this particular match since that was pretty much Wolf's defining game as well. And if you look at the X-Stats, Red wasn't that far behind Fox in 2010. I do think that Blue should be weaker than Red, so Fox shouldn't have too much trouble winning this, but unless you think Wolf is going to be a complete nonentity and won't hurt Fox any more than a random non-Nintendo fodder would (or, heck, even a random non-Star Fox Nintendo fodder), it probably wouldn't be wise to dismiss Red's chances if he were in that spot.

(Although actually, there is reason to suspect that Wolf is a complete weakling. Fox/Wolf was a little under 61% against Yuna/Seymour before getting just over 35% in a loss to Ryu/Ken. Given the "rivalry/not-a-rivalry" contest boost thing, the fact that Yuna almost broke 40% on Fox with an anchor like Seymour probably means that the voters either didn't consider Fox/Wolf a sufficient "rivalry" either (which probably means that Fox is getting more of his strength from Smash than he is from his own games) or Wolf was weak on his own--or that Fox would get fairly well pasted by Yuna 1v1. None of these is very promising, though. Still, just to be sure, let's look at the X-Stat calculator, using 2010 stats:

Ryu vs. Fox McCloud: Ryu wins with 53.56% of the vote
Yuna vs. Fox McCloud: Fox wins with 59.10% of the vote

...Yeah. I was surprised to see that Fox was that close to Ryu--and based on who they eventually lost to, there's no real reason to think that one of them is somehow skewed (though I suppose the same can't be said for Yuna, who lost in an SFF match in 2010)--but the additions of Wolf and Seymour only skewing the match results by 1.82% from the projected 1v1 suggests that Wolf was a fairly large anchor on Fox in Rivalry Rumble as well. (I re-did the Fox-Yuna projection using raw X-stats instead of SFF-adjusted ones, and it showed Fox winning by more 1v1 than he actually did in Rivalry Rumble. Then I checked how the adjusted X-Stats were reached, and I suspect that Yuna's adjusted value probably should be even higher than it is--most of the adjustments were made at a far higher-up level, so the fact that Yuna lost to a freakin' FF7 character isn't really taken into account. If you take the "FF7 > FFnot-7" factor into account, Yuna's probably still pretty strong. So I guess that's a little consolation for Wolf.))
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It wouldn't surprise me if Blue was stronger than Red. He's always been the most popular villain in the series. The only thing Red has going for him over Blue is Brawl exposure.
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I actually flipped to Blue for that match since Fox didn't look that stellar in recent contests, and because Wolf LFF will probably make up for the gap between Red and Blue.

It's funny that I think Pokemon's being overrated, yet I still have them winning most of their debatable matches, only because I think their opponents look even worse
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Big Bob posted...

It wouldn't surprise me if Blue was stronger than Red. He's always been the most popular villain in the series. The only thing Red has going for him over Blue is Brawl exposure.

I'm very sure Red is stronger because main character case. This way of thinking screwed us over before. How many Mario fans actually like Mario the most, ask around, you'll find little, yet he's a lot stronger than Luigi, Yoshi, Bowser etc. Magus stronger than Crono? Yeah, that went well. None of these were even close.
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There are cases where this is true, and Pokemon can be one of them.

Red is a silent protagonist that is more of an avatar and personality-less. Especially because the game doesn't have an emotionally involved plot. Who actually names him Red?

I'd assume they wouldn't be too far off in strength, though it's not close to taking down even an LFF'd Fox.
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Red is pretty iconic though, and Ash is based off of him. That fact that he's a silent protagonist likely doesn't change anything.
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ctesjbuvf posted...

Pretty sure that's how it works when there's only Nintendo characters in the poll. Unless Fox SFFs both Blue and Wolf, but SFF usually doesn't hurt Pokemon.

...Touché. SFF doesn't usually hurt Pokémon, so...wait, no, I don't think that matters at all. If you have all Nintendo characters and two of them are from the same Nintendo series, the two from the same series are still going to hurt each other more. I think. I mean, we don't really know for sure because the only test case for this--two characters from a single Nintendo series and a third character from a different Nintendo series--involved both Link, who SFFs everything Nintendo into the ground, and a Pokémon, which as we stated before generally is good at avoiding Nintendo SFF. Not to mention the non-Nintendo character was more than strong enough to get second place even without Link's presence. (Link/Vincent/Bidoof/Zelda 2007. Link did smash Zelda into the ground and she finished a distant fourth, but Vincent's second-place total was more than double Bidoof's third-place total.)

Um...a full list of previous fourways with at least three true Nintendo characters.

Bowser/Mewtwo/Ryu/Toad 2007: Oops, I stand corrected. And...this might enforce my point, though again, Pokémon's SFF resistance plays into it. Toad's fourth-place percentage is so horrible that it's tough to say he really hurt Bowser that much, but Ryu absolutely crushed Bowser here and Mewtwo got far closer than you'd expect.
Banjo/Falcon/Fox/Wario 2007: Technically, three different series, but Falcon's easily drawing the greatest portion of his strength from Smash--and not unexpectedly, Falcon got crushed here, which might explain why he's been consistently underestimated since (easily handled Diddy in '08 and upset Riku and then broke 30% on Cloud in 2010). And if you're really paying attention there is a bigger overlap between Fox and Falcon than between Fox and Wario or Falcon and Wario.
Luigi/Mudkip/Pit/Tingle 2007: Four different series, technically--wait, we really have had such a match!--but Pit's another one who's there on the strength of Brawl and Americans hate Tingle, who also had the misfortune of not being the only "joke" character in the match. Pokémon takes advantage again, except not really because it's Pit and Tingle and they weren't winning anything anyway.
Sephiroth/Meta Knight/Fox/Wario 2007: Technically three different series, but this was the age of Brawl hype which was probably at least partially responsible for Meta Knight making his contest debut here. Fox smashed the other two Nintendo characters again.
Link/Bidoof/Vincent/Zelda 2007: Talked about above.
Luigi/Mudkip/Ganondorf/Vergil: Pokémon couldn't take advantage here. I don't know, maybe if the fourth character was strong enough to eat up more than 15.86% when faced with triple Nintendo, Mudkip could've used its JokeFEAR/PokéFEAR to cause an upset, but...

Well, Ganondorf did beat Luigi in that poll, only to lose in the next round. So maybe Mudkip hurt Luigi more than Ganondorf.
Mario/Zelda/MMX/Mudkip 2008: Three different series, and for the record, Zelda did get third place in that one over Mudkip. If anything, this shows that three different series means they'll finish in the "proper" relative order, unlike in Link/Bidoof/Vincent/Zelda.
Link/Mario/Samus/Crono 2008: Three different series/Link SFFs everything. Is there even a reason why Link's presence would affect one of those two more than the other?
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The point is that Wolf will probably be hurt a lot more by Fox than Fox will be hurt by Wolf.

I think the Bowser/Mewtwo/Ryu/Toad match proves my point the most. Toad probably did nothing against Bowser here. Bowser still lost to Ryu in the following round and Shadow probably wasn't the cause.
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Not_Wylvane posted...

I actually flipped to Blue for that match since Fox didn't look that stellar in recent contests, and because Wolf LFF will probably make up for the gap between Red and Blue.

It's funny that I think Pokemon's being overrated, yet I still have them winning most of their debatable matches, only because I think their opponents look even worse

Really? Aside from Rivalry Rumble, he's looked pretty good--and like I stated above, using 2010 stats, Fox is projected to do far better on Ryu 1v1 than Fox/Wolf did against Ryu/Ken and Fox is only barely projected to do worse against Yuna 1v1 than Fox/Wolf did against Yuna/Seymour. The fact that Fox came far closer to his 1v1 projections against Yuna than he did against Ryu tells me that Wolf was actually a far bigger anchor than any of us would've expected going into the contest. (Of course, this has the unfortunate side effect of suggesting that Fox draws more of his strength from Smash than he does from his own games.) Let's see...

2010: Fairly solid win over Lloyd, fairly solid loss to Snake. No shame in losing to Snake, even if it is a doubling.
2008: Comes a distant second to Sora in R1 but handily beats out Chris Redfield for the second slot, then ends up in fourth place when R2 ends up double-Square vs. double-Nintendo. The two Square characters finished 1-2, though, and second and third were closer to first and fourth respectively than they were to each other. I guess you have to parse it like this: Squall and Sora have always given each other a good match, which can be dangerous for them in fourways if there's someone that can take advantage of the vote splitting (like when Mewtwo took advantage of triple Square the following round) but was a blessing here where the other two characters were also SFFing each other, and Fox is lower on the Nintendo totem pole than Yoshi, but not to an outstanding degree.
2007: Fox spends the first two rounds smacking down lesser Nintendo characters like a Nintendo elite, then runs into an actual Nintendo elite and folds like a lawn chair. Though "smacks down" is a relative term for Round 2 because Sephiroth was eating up over 57% of the vote in first place.

2002 and 2003 are probably too long ago to really look at. 2002 had him barely avoiding a tripling against Cloud in the first round, while 2003 had him handily beating Pikachu back when Pokémon was still hated before getting absolutely hammered by Link, master of absolutely hammering Nintendo characters.

My conclusion: He's a semi-decent midcarder. His series isn't that high up the Nintendo hierarchy, so he's weaker than the midcarders from Nintendo's big three series (Mario, Zelda and Pokémon--Metroid is probably also a "big series" but I'm pretty sure it has no midcarders, as Samus is in the Noble Nine and Ridley, who's probably the #2 character from the series, is high-end fodder) and also Kirby, but he can put up gaudy numbers against Nintendo fodder and his fellow Smash-dependent midcarders (Yes, after 2010, Falcon actually does have a case for potential midcarder status), and he probably won't struggle any more or less than other comparable Nintendo midcarders in matches against non-Nintendo opponents.
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ctesjbuvf posted...

Big Bob posted...

It wouldn't surprise me if Blue was stronger than Red. He's always been the most popular villain in the series. The only thing Red has going for him over Blue is Brawl exposure.

I'm very sure Red is stronger because main character case. This way of thinking screwed us over before. How many Mario fans actually like Mario the most, ask around, you'll find little, yet he's a lot stronger than Luigi, Yoshi, Bowser etc. Magus stronger than Crono? Yeah, that went well. None of these were even close.

True. Main protagonists are often considered "bland"--hence Mario rarely winning his series' popularity polls--but they still come out on top. Even Tidus, who has a reputation for underperforming relative to the rest of his game, often ends up on top in the X-Stats.

2004: Auron legit outperforms Tidus. Auron outperforming Tidus is one of the few exceptions that we've come to expect.
2005: Tidus actually is the strongest FFX character.
2006: Okay, yes, Yuna, Auron and Rikku all outperformed Tidus here in the raw X-Stats, thanks to Tidus's 27.98% egg against Squall--a worse percentage than Rikku got in her loss to Samus, the eventual bracket champion. But look at that again.

27.98% loss...to Squall. As in, another Final Fantasy main protagonist. That's probably one of the worst possible opponents Tidus could have.

2010: Raw X-Stats say that only Auron outperformed Tidus among FFX characters. Leon's adjusted X-Stats say Rikku did as well because the entire Chaos Division was underrated in the raw X-Stats due to Sonic's gross underperformance in the contest quarterfinals against Link. CN's, while less drastic in the adjustment made to Sonic's percentage, say the same thing. ...I think I might've disproved my own point, especially because I'm not entirely convinced that even the adjusted 2010 X-Stats aren't underrating Yuna. She lost to Zack Fair. FFVII is something like 13-3 in character battle matches against characters from other FF games, 15-4 if you include matches against Kingdom Hearts characters. And all of those losses (regardless of whether you're including the KH bouts or not) belong to Aerith, who lost 1v1 to Auron and also managed to advance in second place behind Squall in a fourway so she could get beaten by both Squall and Sora the next round. Yes, the fact that FFVII has two Noble Niners certainly helps, but Zack's gone 3-0 against FF characters. Vincent's beaten probably the strongest FF-not7 character 1v1. Yuna's adjusted number is indeed well above her raw number because she's behind both Link-Mario and Mario-Mega Man, but the lack of a direct adjustment for having to face an FF7 character is troubling.

...And now I've found the X-Stats for the two 4-way contests. The raw ones for 2007 have Tidus behind Yuna and Auron and barely ahead of Rikku. The adjusted ones...have Rikku ahead of both Tidus and Yuna. 2008, Auron was the only one besides Tidus who made the bracket. So...yeah, I'm all out of ideas.
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Auron above Tidus is the rare exception to what I said. But Tidus isn't at all iconic anyway.
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So, back to 12 hour matches.

Which characters will take advantage of this lovely format... during the night/day?
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Phoenix Wright
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And on the subject of FFVII, will Barret be stronger than Aerith?
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Very unlikely, but he shouldn't have any problems winning his first round match regardless.
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Can't say for sure, but i would take Aeris and maybe Cid over Barret. Depending on how well Dracula performs, i might consider taking him over Barret.

Edited : As in second place.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Auron above Tidus is the rare exception to what I said. But Tidus isn't at all iconic anyway.

Also Tidus gets anti-voted.

Speaking of which, while I'm still picking Sub-Zero over Garrus, I feel there has to be some significance in the former's only two notable wins being over anti-voted characters. Just throwing it out there.

One big argument for Fox winning his match: he's simply a lot better known and way more conspicuous in Nintendo media than whoever this Blue guy is. That has to count for something, right?
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Blue was here. Red is a loser!
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Hey guys. I was doing my bracket and noticed that most favor Pit over Cecil in the BOP. I was surprised by this. Is this because of Kid Icarus: Uprising? How popular was that game? I've never heard of it, but then I don't really follow gaming anymore.

Another thing that really surprised me was Sora being a very large favorite over the Pikachu/Crono winner. I assume this is a day match? Though even a day match wouldn't help Sora so much over Pikachu. Why so much faith in Sora?

And how do you change your pick for a round 1 match after you've finished your bracket? I'm an idiot and can't figure it out >_>

Also is there anything like the BOP for the Expert Challenge? I've never heard of most of the characters that would be in 2nd/3rd place, so right now I have tons of "No Picks".

And will you be able to change your picks for the Expert Challenge up to the day before the actual match? Like with that other side contest from a few years back, I forget what it was called. The one where you picked the winner in-contest and longer streaks of picking right got you lots of points.

most favor Pit over Cecil in the BOP

It's probably some combination of Pit being the only Nintendo option, expecting the Dissidia boost to wither, and thinking Uprising really matters.

Another thing that really surprised me was Sora being a very large favorite over the Pikachu/Crono winner. I assume this is a day match? Though even a day match wouldn't help Sora so much over Pikachu. Why so much faith in Sora?

Round 3 and onward is 24 hour matches, actually. And it's because of LFF.

If Crono gets to Sora then most people would probably say he wins yeah but he has to stop day match Pikachu first, with Magus potentially holding him back, which is pretty tough. And if people are down enough on Chrono Trigger to pick Magus to lose to Otacon, they probably figure Crono has a good shot at losing to Pikachu during a day match even if Magus isn't there.

Fox was worth in the high 30's on Pikachu in 2010 even if you assume Pikachu didn't overperform on Sprite Snake (and obviously Pikachu did), and we've seen Yoshi fail to SFF Fox before, so Fox LFF probably screws Pikachu in Round 3. Have Pokemon Trainer Blue in the match instead? Now you've got an entrant even more likely to LFF Pikachu.

So to sanely pick against Sora you probably have to believe one of:
1. One of either Crono or Pikachu are strong enough that they would just stomp this division if it weren't for LFF, therefore they still have a chance even with it.
2. Otacon is going to beat Magus but Crono is still good enough to beat Pikachu, even during the day.
3. Someone non-Nintendo is going to win the bottom third of Division 6 therefore making Pikachu/Sora relatively fair. Nathan Drake is probably the best candidate, so that probably isn't happening.
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Uprising was a big deal when the 3DS was first announced, though once it was released nobody really seemed to notice, even though I hear it's a solid game.

As for Sora, Kingdom Hearts 3 was finally announced. Also, most people have Pikachu over Crono, and with Blue or Fox being the third, that opens a good opportunity for Sora to sneak by.
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