Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1052

#251 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:04:21 PM | message detail | (edited)
pjbasis posted...
Such a disappointing loss.

Who else is in that category?


Vincent
Tifa
Ryu
Missingno (technically, but only one contest lol)
Edit: Forgot the Zard, but see Missingno

I think that's it.
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#252 | pjbasis | Posted 6/5/2013 10:05:09 PM | message detail
Damn you Vincent.


And people really think Barret is gonna be that far below Tifa and Vincent? Come on
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#253 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:07:13 PM | message detail
The only poll we have to base Barret's popularity on says he's bottom-tier for FFVII.

Of course, lol All Those Ways and 2002, but Barret would do pretty well to be on par with 2010 Cid.
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#254 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:07:30 PM | message detail
Such a disappointing loss.

Who else is in that category?


Not counting one shot fodder characters like Tanner and characters who've only been in one 1-on-1 contest (i.e., those who debuted in 4-way years and thus have only been in 2010):

The Noble Nine themselves (minus Crono)
Vincent
Zelda
Tifa

Pretty sure that's the list unless I'm forgetting someone. Kirby would be on that list if he hadn't lost to Squall in 2004, and a couple of characters are only one loss away from being on that list as well (Bowser losing to Charizard in 2010 knocked him off the list, for instance).
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#255 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:08:09 PM | message detail
Ryu lost to Bowser in 2005. He's another one of those guys who's only one loss away from being on the list.
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#256 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:09:23 PM | message detail | (edited)
Augh, that's right. I forgot the list Ryu (was) on was the 'finished above 40% all the times one before 2010.
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#257 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:09:11 PM | message detail
And yeah, I expect Barret to be the weakest FFVII character we've seen thus far, not counting the Midgar Zolom.
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#258 | pjbasis | Posted 6/5/2013 10:10:31 PM | message detail
Barret weaker than Cid?

I just can't believe it! This guy is in the beginning of the game!
He's iconic!
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#259 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:10:35 PM | message detail
Augh, that's right. I forgot the list Ryu (was) on was the 'finished above 40% all the times one.

Kirby is STILL on that list!

Heck, Squall is the only loss keeping him from being on the "Finished at least 45% in every match" list as well and just barely at that, since he got 44.99%.
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#260 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:12:08 PM | message detail
Man, I've missed discussing contest stats.

I feel like I'm getting my second wind!
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#261 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:12:51 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=845

I mean, I know this poll is absolutely terrible to use, but unlike others this one has held up pretty well aside from Tifa. If we want to argue Cloud hurt Tifa more than usual in here because plot (and thus Cloud/Tifa hurt Barret as much), Barret's probably around the Cid/Red level.

That's a lot of assumptions to make for a decade+ year old poll though, but I don't think it's necessarily unreasonable.
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#262 | Menji76 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:14:25 PM | message detail
3-ways actually sounds like a fun idea to me. I take it we're not guessing 2nd place based on the bracket entry test?
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#263 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 6/5/2013 10:15:23 PM | message detail
Correct, 2nd place is irrelevant in this contest.
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#264 | pjbasis | Posted 6/5/2013 10:15:43 PM | message detail
If you know it's so terrible don't even use it!

We don't have to bring up those Mario polls where Yoshi takes first right
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#265 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:15:57 PM | message detail
Well, we've seen things can change quite a bit over the years. We saw Mario make big leaps and bounds in the Mario character poll over the years.

But again, yeah, I don't have high hopes for Barret. I'd be kind of surprised if he goes out in round one though unless he gets a tough draw like Cid did.
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#266 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:17:27 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
If you know it's so terrible don't even use it!

We don't have to bring up those Mario polls where Yoshi takes first right


I already said it's probably terrible, BUT it held up well!

Unless you were one of those who ignored it and took Kerrigan over Vincent in 2005.
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#267 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:18:59 PM | message detail
Man, Vincent/Kerrigan was such an amazing match. The overreactions were glorious.

And then Tifa quadrupled Vyse a few days later and everyone was like "Did the FFVII fans just give all their support to Vincent and Tifa now that Cloud and Sephy are retired?"

So good.
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#268 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:20:25 PM | message detail
And then Vincent and Tifa got 'embarrassed' by Dante and Luigi relative to the overreaction, respectively.
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#269 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:20:59 PM | message detail
Especially Luigi in Tifa's case.

remember when people were seriously picking KOS-MOS to win that match
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#270 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:23:21 PM | message detail
I didn't show up on this board until Magus/Knuckles, so no!

I will always take solace in the fact that even though my instincts said Kefka > Crono was a lock, those same instincts said Mario was going to run wild on the main bracket.
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#271 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:25:30 PM | message detail
Ha, at this point we've been here so long I forget when people joined.

But yeah, there were people seriously taking KOS-MOS > Luigi as an upset, because Luigi's X-Stat value in 2003 was pretty sucky (He finished below friggin' Donkey Kong). Of course, this was before we knew anything about the Nintendo Boost.
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#272 | CybrMonkey | Posted 6/5/2013 10:25:31 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...

remember when people were seriously picking KOS-MOS to win that match


It was the fanboy in me.
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#273 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:27:48 PM | message detail
I'll be fair and say that I'll probably take any FFIV-related win I can remotely justify, so I can't really insult people for considering KOS-MOS > Luigi for similar reasons.
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#274 | pjbasis | Posted 6/5/2013 10:29:18 PM | message detail
I didn't start posting here till Charizard was finishing up his run.

What a shame GotD was the only good thing I saw live.
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#275 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:30:20 PM | message detail
Well, it's not like I haven't made my fair share of bad contest blunders myself. My very first bracket, the original Games Contest, was a disaster. I had Mario 3 winning the whole thing, Tetris beating Zelda 1, Kingdom Hearts in the Elite Eight, yikes.

I did manage to get the Final Four totally correct though!
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#276 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:34:13 PM | message detail
Serious non-fanboy talk though, I was most hyped about seeing how Mario/Samus/Snake/Cloud would shape up so seeing that both Mario and Samus are in purely to be Link-fodder is really, really disappointing and that alone makes this a terrible bracket to me.

Unless we get a Cecil/Kain/Rydia first-round match, which would be funny and awesome you should do that Bacon so I become happy.
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#277 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:36:36 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm very disappointed we didn't get some form of Cloud/Sephiroth vs. Snake vs. Samus/Mario. Wasted opportunities there. I think Bacon intentionally wants Mario to be in the final to at least try to make people pause a LITTLE bit before automatically picking Link to win the whole thing.
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#278 | pjbasis | Posted 6/5/2013 10:36:38 PM | message detail
Samus is Mario fodder you mean
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#279 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:38:24 PM | message detail
Well, yes, but Samus is Mario-fodder just to make sure she doesn't interfere in the plan of 'Link/Mario/CloudSnake' finals.
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#280 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:38:40 PM | message detail
I'm actually kind of curious to see how well Samus holds up to Mario. I mean, she's not going to win, of course, but she held up pretty well in 2008.
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#281 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/5/2013 10:39:06 PM | message detail
Who will be the first NN to lose?

This could be interesting.
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#282 | Pirateking2000 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:39:48 PM | message detail
I hope Link is knocked out in round 1 somehow

mmmhmm
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#283 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:40:32 PM | message detail
Link vs. Missingno vs. L-Block ROUND ONE
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#284 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:41:32 PM | message detail
I honestly would not be surprised if Bacon intentionally put either L-Block or Missingno in Crono's division.

God, the debates that would spawn.
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#285 | Pirateking2000 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:41:48 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Link vs. Missingno vs. L-Block ROUND ONE


what about ? Block VS L Block VS Link

Seriously the uproar of Link somehow losing in Round 1 would be delicious
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#286 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:42:28 PM | message detail
I don't want to see Missingno in Crono's division, honestly. Put him in Mega Man or Sonic's division. Heck, put him in Snake or Samus's division to see what it can really do.
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#287 | Korayashi | Posted 6/5/2013 10:42:37 PM | message detail
I would not be surprised if Bacon intentionally put both L-Block and Missingno in Crono's first match. SJF?
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#288 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:43:14 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
I don't want to see Missingno in Crono's division, honestly. Put him in Mega Man or Sonic's division. Heck, put him in Snake or Samus's division to see what it can really do.


It was more 'to spawn a debate on Snake/Cloud/BlockMissingno' than anybody thinking Crono could hold either of them off.
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#289 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:44:10 PM | message detail
Well, I wouldn't expect to see a second miracle L-Block run unless the internet suddenly starts caring about GameFAQs again. Missingno could do some damage though.
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#290 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 6/5/2013 10:46:00 PM | message detail
Korayashi posted...
I would not be surprised if Bacon intentionally put both L-Block and Missingno in Crono's first match. SJF?


JLF would be a better term for that. Joke Leech Factor.
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#291 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/5/2013 10:46:10 PM | message detail
This bracket is gonna be so unpredictable.
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#292 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/5/2013 10:46:29 PM | message detail
And the Oracle Challenge...
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#293 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:46:47 PM | message detail
I just realized Crono's division is the sixth one.

...Would Bacon really make Missingno the sixth seed of the sixth division?
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#294 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 6/5/2013 10:48:07 PM | message detail
Dilated Chemist posted...
And the Oracle Challenge...


A new scoring system would need to be created for this Oracle Challenge. There's already a topic about that right now.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66366793
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#295 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:48:19 PM | message detail
Oracle is less fun when it's not 1-on-1, in my opinion.

Doesn't mean I'm not going to participate, but still.
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#296 | Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/5/2013 10:49:07 PM | message detail
Cool. Thanks, Luster.
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#297 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2013 10:51:07 PM | message detail
I hope Bacon reveals the 2s and 3s relatively early in the afternoon tomorrow since I have to work. I don't want to have to catch up the day after!
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#298 | superange128 | Posted 6/5/2013 10:53:03 PM | message detail
I'm going to guess 2s sometime between 11AM-1PM PST and 3s sometime between 3PM-5PM PST
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#299 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/5/2013 10:53:58 PM | message detail
I was thinking that I might take a joke character over Samus now, but I decided against it in the end since jokes fall off the map too quickly.
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#300 | Iamthekuzalol | Posted 6/6/2013 1:02:55 AM | message detail
Let's hope Bacon put Squall in Crono's division. Crono vs Squall would be fun, regardless of the outcome, either of them would aid Snake in beating Cloud.