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#201 | LeonhartFour | Posted 5/16/2013 1:38:48 PM | message detail
Guru support will get Yuri in for sure. Prinny bypassed the vote-ins altogether in 2010 with Guru support and that was with 5 times the amount of noms as we're getting this year.
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#202 | swirIdude | Posted 5/16/2013 1:59:47 PM | message detail
Yuri will be the first 2 seed to get doubled by a 15.
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#203 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/16/2013 2:00:53 PM | message detail
Yuri vs. CATS, let's do this.
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#204 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/16/2013 2:20:21 PM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
Yuri will be the first 2 seed to get doubled by a 15.


I feel like this happened already but I can't pin down where.
#205 | swirIdude | Posted 5/16/2013 3:05:22 PM | message detail
The Boss is the only 15 seed to ever beat a 2 seed. She beat Nathan Drake with 52.37% of the vote.
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#206 | swirIdude | Posted 5/16/2013 4:49:03 PM | message detail
How well would Lara Croft do, following the Tomb Raider reboot?
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#207 | Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 5/16/2013 4:59:26 PM | message detail
From: Justin_Crossing | Posted: 5/14/2013 7:07:43 PM | #166
It just occurred to me how crazy it is that B8 hasn't started a Recette rally

fun fact

if I won the last guru this is who we'd all be nominating right now
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#208 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/16/2013 5:01:29 PM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
How well would Lara Croft do, following the Tomb Raider reboot?


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#209 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/16/2013 6:20:17 PM | message detail | (edited)
For fun, here's a list of the largest seeding upsets in the first round.

16 Seed Brackets (2002, 2003, Games 04, 2004, 2010 and GotD)

9 > 8 (2003)
Pikachu - 31.33%
Fox McCloud - 68.67%

10 > 7 (2010)
Yuri Lowell - 21.30%
Tifa Lockhart - 78.70%

11 > 6 (GotD)
WWF No Mercy - 28.27%
Fire Emblem: PoR - 71.73%

12 > 5 (2002)
Terry Bogard - 35.23%
Aya Brea - 64.77%

13 > 4 (2003)
Sam Fisher - 33.75%
Magus - 66.25%

14 > 3 (2010)
Soap MacTavish - 38.25%
Big Daddy - 61.75%

15 > 2 (2010)
Nathan Drake - 47.63%
The Boss - 52.37%

16 > 1 (Games 04)
Halo - 49.83%
Starcraft - 50.17%

8 Seed Brackets (Villains, 2005, Series, 2006, Rivalry)

5 > 4 (2005)
Sarah Kerrigan - 21.00%
Vincent Valentine - 79.00%

6 > 3 (Villains)
Albedo - 31.56%
M. Bison - 68.44%

7 > 2 (Rivalry)
Tidus/Jecht - 40.36%
Big Boss/The Boss - 59.64%

8 > 1 (Never)
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#210 | Iamthekuzalol | Posted 5/16/2013 6:23:10 PM | message detail
Looks like Yuri gonna set a record.
#211 | foxhead84 | Posted 5/16/2013 6:24:44 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
For fun, here's a list of the largest seeding upsets in the first round.
14 > 3 (2010)
Soap MacTavish - 38.25%
Big Daddy - 61.75%


How does Soap manage to get a 3rd seed??? Was he a guru pick or something?
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#212 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/16/2013 6:27:03 PM | message detail
Soap is a character from Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. So he must have gotten a lot of casual support. Kind of like how Master Chief gets a high seed in our contests.
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#213 | abdou | Posted 5/16/2013 7:31:35 PM | message detail
we just reached 18000 nominations.
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#214 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/16/2013 8:27:35 PM | message detail
18000 is low, isn't it?
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#215 | Articuno2001 | Posted 5/16/2013 8:31:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's only 20% of what we had for the last Character Battle, which had 90,000 nominations.
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#216 | KamikazePotato | Posted 5/16/2013 8:32:52 PM | message detail
We don't even have a banner yet.
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#217 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/16/2013 8:33:29 PM | message detail
18000 is low considering we got about 90000 nominations for Character Battle 2010. Our traffic to the front page of the site has dropped off significantly since 2010, so we aren't getting as many nominations because site visitors can't find the nomination form.

Rivalry Rumble only had 14811 nominations, so at least we've gotten more nominations for this contest despite the fact our average vote totals are currently around 39000 (it was 50000 before the start of Rivalry Rumble).
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#218 | pjbasis | Posted 5/16/2013 10:16:46 PM | message detail
I hope Zael makes the vote ins
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#219 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/16/2013 10:19:08 PM | message detail
I sent Bacon my banners. I hope he throws them up somewhere.

I kinda like us having control over the bracket but getting more noms is probably for the best
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#220 | superange128 | Posted 5/16/2013 10:29:59 PM | message detail
yeah putting up banners would definitely help people get interested in nominating. People viewing the front page might not even know this is happening
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#221 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/16/2013 10:43:46 PM | message detail
Nobody even goes to the front page anymore. He needs either banner ads or that golden tab on top of the page again.

Though front page banners would help too cuz yeah nobody cares about contests and even less care if there are no big flashy banners.
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#222 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/16/2013 10:56:01 PM | message detail
ZenOfThunder posted...
Nobody even goes to the front page anymore. He needs either banner ads or that golden tab on top of the page again.


Something like this would catch their attention:

http://i.imgur.com/OvrN89E.png

Having that yellow banner on all pages of the site would help boost nominations.
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#223 | superange128 | Posted 5/16/2013 11:17:28 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
ZenOfThunder posted...
Nobody even goes to the front page anymore. He needs either banner ads or that golden tab on top of the page again.


Something like this would catch their attention:

http://i.imgur.com/OvrN89E.png

Having that yellow banner on all pages of the site would help boost nominations.


Oh yeah, I totally forgot that's been done before.

Maybe he can put something like that up tomorrow?
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#224 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/16/2013 11:21:52 PM | message detail
That yellow banner has been used whenever GameFAQs is in Read-Only mode.
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#225 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 5/17/2013 9:00:53 AM | message detail
How many nominations were there in Game of the Decade?
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#226 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/17/2013 9:16:26 AM | message detail
I had to look this one up, but there were 54577 nominations for Game of the Decade.
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#227 | LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2013 1:19:18 PM | message detail
Finally, let's talk about the Character Battle. We've gotten a huge number of nominees so far, but we definitely want to see more. After all, we need over 200 combatants to fill out our unique bracket we've made for this battle. :)

Also noms ending at the end of next week.
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#228 | Samurai7 | Posted 5/17/2013 1:20:58 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Finally, let's talk about the Character Battle. We've gotten a huge number of nominees so far, but we definitely want to see more. After all, we need over 200 combatants to fill out our unique bracket we've made for this battle. :)

Also noms ending at the end of next week.


Eight ways? lol
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#229 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 5/17/2013 1:22:42 PM | message detail
Really hoping he's just talking about people to fill up vote-in spots. Yeah, that's it. He wants stronger vote-ins. >_>
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#230 | LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2013 1:25:03 PM | message detail
Man, could you imagine what the vote-ins are going to look like if we have them with that many characters already in?
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#231 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 5/17/2013 1:51:04 PM | message detail | (edited)
On the bright side, maybe Guybrush will finally win a match!

e: Or CATS.
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#232 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/17/2013 2:08:25 PM | message detail
I just sent a message to Bacon asking if it was 256 characters and he said

"I don't recall saying it's 256 characters"

then I said "my mistake, I thought that's what you meant"

"nope, never said 256"
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#233 | superange128 | Posted 5/17/2013 2:09:34 PM | message detail
#234 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/17/2013 2:13:37 PM | message detail
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#235 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/17/2013 2:57:51 PM | message detail
Hrm...here's a crazy idea for you guys. Double Elimination bracket, bottom third seeds start in Losers already, two polls run concurrently, 12 hour matches until the semifinals (winners AND losers). Sounds like a logistical nightmare, but it's about the only thing I can think of that makes sense. Three-ways would be 196 characters so that's probably not it, but would be my pick if Bacon's counting in votings.
#236 | superange128 | Posted 5/17/2013 3:00:49 PM | message detail
Double elimination could be interesting I guess
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#237 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/17/2013 3:01:43 PM | message detail
superange128 posted...
Double elimination could be interesting I guess


Zidane/Ike double salty runback, you know you want in on that action!
#238 | Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/17/2013 3:04:31 PM | message detail
eh double elimination sounds way too messy
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#239 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/17/2013 3:07:00 PM | message detail
Masato_Tanaka posted...
eh double elimination sounds way too messy


Totally agree but

bacon

The man only has brilliant ideas or awful ones. Just look at how we went from GotD to Rivalry Rumble!
#240 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/17/2013 3:43:44 PM | message detail
With noms scheduled to close by the end of next week, we'll have enough time to reach 20000 nominations.

Over 200 characters in the bracket sounds interesting, but it will probably lead to a bad format again. I bet we might end up with 4-ways again, but with 12-hour matches in every round before the semifinals.
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#241 | Xuxon | Posted 5/17/2013 3:50:20 PM | message detail | (edited)
From: KanzarisKelshen | Posted: 5/17/2013 5:57:51 PM | #235
Three-ways would be 196 characters so that's probably not it, but would be my pick if Bacon's counting in votings.

3-ways would only be 196 if they were 3-way in the first round and 1v1 afterwards, with 12 hour polls (wait, that'd be 192. no idea where you got 196.)

243 would be the 3-way number all the way through with 24 hour matches, but then it'd only take a month. the most sensible sounding 3-way to me would be for 3 rounds, then 1v1 for the final 8. 216 characters, 24 hour matches, takes exactly as long as a 64 character 1v1.
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#242 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 5/17/2013 3:53:27 PM | message detail
20000 is pretty good considering everything. I think this contest will at least fare A LOT better than the Rivalry Rumble.

Of course, if Allen did another banner, that should push noms more to 25-30000...

What if it's battle royales, each with 8 characters eliminating two at a time. Probably not, but I expect something wacky at least.
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#243 | PrestonStarry | Posted 5/17/2013 4:42:05 PM | message detail
I really would like to see two polls / two matches being run at the same time.

It's something different and it would make it easier to spot cheating while votes are tallied in the polls.
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#244 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/17/2013 5:16:47 PM | message detail
The way the polls are positioned right now would make it a bad idea to have 2 matches running at the same time. The only way I would have 2 matches running at the same time is having the 2 matches side-by-side (next to each other). If our matches are set-up so there is a second match below the first match, the first match will get normal vote totals while the second match suffers from reduced vote totals. Put them side-by-side and you can reduce the chances of the second match suffering from reduced vote totals.
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#245 | Djungelurban | Posted 5/17/2013 8:22:11 PM | message detail
From: KanzarisKelshen | #235
Three-ways would be 196 characters so that's probably not it, but would be my pick if Bacon's counting in votings.

1*3=3
3*3=9
9*3=27
27*3=81
81*3=243

Thus three ways would work perfectly!
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#246 | LeonhartFone | Posted 5/17/2013 8:22:19 PM | message detail
How would you even make double elimination feasible with that many characters?
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#247 | LeonhartFone | Posted 5/17/2013 8:24:31 PM | message detail
Regardless I am expecting a totally new format so I don't think it'll be threeways or anything. Can't see Bacon trying to hype it up as something totally different if that were the case.
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#248 | xp1337 | Posted 5/17/2013 8:25:16 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFone | #246
How would you even make double elimination feasible with that many characters?

256 characters 1v1 double elimination 24 hour matches. After going without a contest for so long we get a year-and-a-half contest.

Seriously, you can't I think. Unless it's something like two polls a day + 12 hour matches.
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#249 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/17/2013 8:25:40 PM | message detail
Djungelurban posted...
From: KanzarisKelshen | #235
Three-ways would be 196 characters so that's probably not it, but would be my pick if Bacon's counting in votings.

1*3=3
3*3=9
9*3=27
27*3=81
81*3=243

Thus three ways would work perfectly!


You're assuming it's not 'top two advance'. Hence 192 (not 196, whoops).
#250 | Ngamer64 | Posted 5/17/2013 8:47:33 PM | message detail
3 ways would be awful, double elimination would take all year... guess we should be rooting for something totally out of left field at this point.
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