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#351 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 5/6/2013 5:53:14 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
We start off with the 2010 bracket then added characters from 2008 then 2007 (though SBAllen seems to have missed some characters)

Thus 245 is the cut-off for characters that have appeared in a bracket. Based on the groupings of games 246-256 were probably added before nominations open while everything else seems to be added after nominations opened


Do you know which ones he missed? He should probably be told to add them in.
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#352 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/6/2013 6:00:52 PM | message detail
Do you know which ones he missed? He should probably be told to add them in.

Raiden and Lara Croft, but he added those I'll have to check in a bit.
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#353 | LordOfDabu | Posted 5/6/2013 6:03:02 PM | message detail
Diablo also I think
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#354 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 5/6/2013 6:23:06 PM | message detail
What.

Anyway, now I gotta figure out some unique characters to nominate.
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#355 | Kibago | Posted 5/6/2013 6:24:44 PM | message detail
hey guys don't forget science the bear
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#356 | ffmasterjose | Posted 5/6/2013 8:34:36 PM | message detail
Is there any FF7 characters that we're pushing for this year? not named Cloud of course.
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#357 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/6/2013 8:36:10 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
New additions:
332 - Teemo - League of Legends
333 - Dracula - Castlevania


No new characters have been added since Dracula. Maybe we'll get more additions to the database tomorrow.
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#358 | Xuxon | Posted 5/6/2013 8:38:08 PM | message detail
From: ffmasterjose | #356
Is there any FF7 characters that we're pushing for this year? not named Cloud of course.

Barret was one of the NRT winners
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#359 | Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 5/6/2013 8:41:15 PM | message detail
We have a contest!

This is huge guys. We could have had no contests ever.

Now Allan can cement his position as greatest administrator of all time by giving us Yoshi/Crono, which we should have had last time except Missingno messed it up.
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#360 | ffmasterjose | Posted 5/6/2013 8:46:11 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
From: ffmasterjose | #356
Is there any FF7 characters that we're pushing for this year? not named Cloud of course.

Barret was one of the NRT winners


Thanks. Giving Barret a nom then.
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#361 | pjbasis | Posted 5/6/2013 8:50:37 PM | message detail
What does it take to get into the database?
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#362 | IloveYoda | Posted 5/6/2013 8:52:26 PM | message detail
Pretty sure Allen has to add them manually. I know they aren't added automatically when they get a certain number of noms, unless it's been updated since the last contest.
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#363 | ffmasterjose | Posted 5/6/2013 8:56:04 PM | message detail
THE STATS TOPIC IS SO ALIVE

AGAIN! </Jericho>
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#364 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/6/2013 9:00:20 PM | message detail
So I've checked to see what characters are missing from the 2007 and 2008 contest.

From 2008 SBAllen left out Jinjo and Kain Highwind

From 2007 SBAllen left out Agent J, Bidoof, Daxter, Diablo, Haseo, Matt, Midgar Zolom, Nathan Hale, Serge, Tingle, Toad and Vergil.
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#365 | Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 5/6/2013 9:24:23 PM | message detail
one request though

can we do our job and get CATS a 16 seed again?

That's when the contest will REALLY be back.
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#366 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/6/2013 9:29:50 PM | message detail
If SBAllen does a vote-in CATS will lose again, we'll have to give him a 12/13 seed.
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#367 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/6/2013 9:32:48 PM | message detail
If we do vote-ins for this contest, the 15 and 16 seeds will be decided by the vote-ins. Also, it's possible that the 13 and 14 seeds might come from the vote-ins as well.
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#368 | superange128 | Posted 5/6/2013 9:42:05 PM | message detail
#369 | Ngamer64 | Posted 5/7/2013 3:36:06 AM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
There are currently 331 characters in the database.

Any one remember how many there were last time? I think the list is on the Wiki somewhere.

Looks like the full list wasn't saved on the wiki, but I talked about it on the page discussing our 2010 Board 8 noms.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Board_8%27s_2010_Nominations#Suggestion_List_Info

The list started with 244 names and that was everyone from 2007+ 2008 along with some 2008 rallies that didn't quite make the cut, plus a few more that SB added himself before getting any input.

He input some more during the first 48 hours of nomination to reach a total of 255. So yes he appears to have lost this list and decided to just recreate it himself (which would be fine except for the handful of characters he missed).
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#370 | SuperNiceDog | Posted 5/7/2013 3:50:46 AM | message detail
Sup guys! new contest yay!
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#371 | Haste_2 | Posted 5/7/2013 9:57:26 AM | message detail
Wish it was a game contest....
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#372 | SuperNiceDog | Posted 5/7/2013 10:35:36 AM | message detail
nominate Yuri Lowell(Tales of Vesperia), and you'll have a supernice day! =)
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#373 | Haste_2 | Posted 5/7/2013 10:42:19 AM | message detail
SuperNiceDog posted...
nominate Yuri Lowell(Tales of Vesperia), and you'll have a supernice day! =)
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#374 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/7/2013 11:04:05 AM | message detail
So Lugia wasn't the guru pick?
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#375 | superange128 | Posted 5/7/2013 11:05:51 AM | message detail
it was but he said that was just something he came up with really quick

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66141960
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#376 | abdou | Posted 5/7/2013 11:17:48 AM | message detail
didn't yuri already make the contest once and got steamrolled?

it's better than a pokemon I guess
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#377 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 5/7/2013 11:24:05 AM | message detail
Yeah, Lugia is the much better pick. It doesn't affect me either way as I didn't enter the guru last year, but Yuri got absolutely flattened by Tifa, who isn't even Noble Nine. Lugia could be pretty good and we've never had a Gen II rep before. I definitely urge SuperNiceDog to reconsider. Ultimately the choice is his, but think Yuri may be a waste.
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#378 | Advokaiser | Posted 5/7/2013 11:55:40 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Fictionalized representations of historical characters (Nobunaga from the Onimusha series) are acceptable, as are public-domain characters in the context of a game (Dracula from the Castlevania series)

I wonder how we can exploit this rule...


Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan come to mind...
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#379 | Advokaiser | Posted 5/7/2013 12:00:07 PM | message detail
Yay! My very first official Character Battle in GameFAQs! Plus, I get to nominate 15 characters? Man...!

I don't know whether to feel excited or worried though... everyone seems to have the stats dominated and all.
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#380 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/7/2013 12:00:08 PM | message detail
Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan come to mind...

Wouldn't call them historical yet
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#381 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/7/2013 12:39:07 PM | message detail | (edited)
Ngamer64 posted...
The list started with 244 names and that was everyone from 2007+ 2008 along with some 2008 rallies that didn't quite make the cut, plus a few more that SB added himself before getting any input.

He input some more during the first 48 hours of nomination to reach a total of 255. So yes he appears to have lost this list and decided to just recreate it himself (which would be fine except for the handful of characters he missed).


It's possible he lost the list as a result of GameFAQs moving over to the AWS servers. In fact, it was the Trainers vs. Cloud/Sephiroth match that had several minutes worth of votes deleted from the database when GameFAQs was moved over to AWS. So that match was showing incorrect results and SBAllen had to correct the final result.


Also, the current nomination total is at 6639. We'll pass 7000 nominations before the 24 hour mark for sure.
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#382 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/7/2013 12:48:35 PM | message detail
Where'd this news of a new character battle come from?
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#383 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/7/2013 12:50:03 PM | message detail
The news came from this topic:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/66135749

I can't blame you didn't even see the sticky topic on this board.
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#384 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 5/7/2013 1:12:50 PM | message detail
More interesting would be figures like George Washington.
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#385 | Ngamer64 | Posted 5/7/2013 1:42:38 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
So I've checked to see what characters are missing from the 2007 and 2008 contest.

From 2008 SBAllen left out Jinjo and Kain Highwind

From 2007 SBAllen left out Agent J, Bidoof, Daxter, Diablo, Haseo, Matt, Midgar Zolom, Nathan Hale, Serge, Tingle, Toad and Vergil.

I spoke with SB about this, he said

"Characters are added whenever they reach a threshold of entries - no sense in adding them if nobody's suggesting them manually."

Which is a LOAD OF JUNK in my opinion. If I were an average B8er who had just tried to add Bidoof but found he wasn't in the system despite all 300 other previous entrants being there, I'd think SB must have removed him for a reason. Then I'd think, no sense in wasting a slot, and pick someone else instead. Plus seeing a name in the suggested list often reminds you of a character you hadn't thought of, and you end up nomming them.

This is the same logic he used to kick out Mario/Sonic. "Mario/Bowser got over twice as many nominations, so clearly that's the choice that GameFAQs prefers!" Yeah but you never added Mario/Sonic as an option so how many hundreds of users assumed that option was banned and picked something else?

Anyways not a big deal, doubt any of them would have made the cut aside from Diablo, just wanted to vent.
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#386 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/7/2013 1:43:44 PM | message detail
Kain made the vote-ins last time! (and almost got enough votes to get in, iirc)
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#387 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/7/2013 1:52:51 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Fictionalized representations of historical characters (Nobunaga from the Onimusha series) are acceptable, as are public-domain characters in the context of a game (Dracula from the Castlevania series)

I wonder how we can exploit this rule...


Besides the 2 examples given there, I don't know of any other characters that would fall under that rule. I don't think Dracula would be able to get in.
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#388 | LeonhartFour | Posted 5/7/2013 1:55:09 PM | message detail
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #386
Kain made the vote-ins last time! (and almost got enough votes to get in, iirc)


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3693

Eh, he was still decently behind Protoman and Ridley, who both got 16 seeds.
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#389 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/7/2013 1:55:47 PM | message detail
Most of those characters are turbo fodders that will probably never get enough nominations to even get close to a vote-in poll.

Diablo may reach the bracket without it (he can still be added), but the other characters are essentially doomed, which is a shame Toad could do some damage if he ever avoids a Nintendo character plus Kain, Serge, Tingle and Vergil are more than turbo fodder.
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#390 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/7/2013 2:07:53 PM | message detail
Wow, Ridley beat Lara Croft and Bayonetta in the vote-ins? I wouldn't take Ridley to repeat that performance, but man...

...obvious Ridley likes snatching ladies.
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#391 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 5/7/2013 2:12:07 PM | message detail
Yep.

Contest season is a good time to reinstate use of the ignore function.
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#392 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/7/2013 2:17:19 PM | message detail
To be fair that poll happened before the release of Bayonetta and the last two Tomb Raider games

Also lol 12-way polls.
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#393 | UltimaterializerX (Topic Creator) | Posted 5/7/2013 3:34:21 PM | message detail
So what is the Board 8 obligation? I know Epona, but who else? It's been ages.
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#394 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 5/7/2013 3:35:30 PM | message detail
From: UltimaterializerX | #393
So what is the Board 8 obligation? I know Epona, but who else? It's been ages.


Guru pick is Yuri Lowell.
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#395 | swirIdude | Posted 5/7/2013 3:39:14 PM | message detail
It's Lugia, don't be a liar.
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#396 | JJH777 | Posted 5/7/2013 3:42:40 PM | message detail
How many noms does a character usually need to get a spot in the bracket or vote-ins?
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#397 | SuperNiceDog | Posted 5/7/2013 4:04:52 PM | message detail
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
From: UltimaterializerX | #393
So what is the Board 8 obligation?


Guru pick is Yuri Lowell.


Yuri Lowell from Tales of Vesperia is the Guru nomination from 2011 Guru contest winner SuperNiceDog. Go YURI!
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#398 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/7/2013 4:09:07 PM | message detail
Current nomination database right now:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFdYeXoxbmcyYjJnMEZLYmhsTzFWS0E

No new nominations have been added to the list since yesterday.


So far, we are at 7134 nominations in the first 24 hours. Looking back at the archived stats topics, we had 6049 nominations after the 24 hours for the Rivalry Rumble contest.
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#399 | abdou | Posted 5/7/2013 4:13:35 PM | message detail
More nominations than Rivalry Rumble is not surprising at all, that contest did not generate excitement at all.
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#400 | Xeybozn | Posted 5/7/2013 4:14:28 PM | message detail
From: JJH777 | #396
How many noms does a character usually need to get a spot in the bracket or vote-ins?

Ocelot was the last character in the field before the vote-ins in 2010; he had 196 noms. I'd guess the number will be lower this year as long as it's still 128 characters. I don't think anybody knows the cutoff for making the vote-ins.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Winter_2010_Total_Nominations
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