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#101 | HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2013 9:16:27 PM | message detail
Excellent poll!

Skyrim's a beast. Ignoring the Nintendo-SFF, it's laying a strong beating on ME2 right now to easily be the site's biggest WRPG. Between that and breaking LoZ's GotY-streak last year (also with ease), Skyrim's got a hell of a resume for the next game contest.
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#102 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/11/2013 9:21:08 PM | message detail
TP now ahead of SMG, ME2 has a chance at beating both of them.
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#103 | JJH777 | Posted 1/11/2013 9:22:02 PM | message detail
Dang SMG falling fast... Was happy with it being 3rd. It's by far the best game in this poll.
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#104 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/11/2013 9:30:02 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728

Heck of a lot better than it looked here! Galaxy is impressing me, actually. It usually folds against Nintendo competition but is doing quite well for itself here. It might end right around ME2 here despite two stronger Nintendo games holding back. That means I probably would take it to beat every single non-Skyrim western game in a contest.
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#105 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/11/2013 9:35:28 PM | message detail
It's dawning on me right now that not only did a jRPG never win GOTY this generation, but the only one to even come close was barely released in the US and almost lost to Pokemon

What a bad almost-decade for Japanese RPGs, with no hope on the horizon.
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#106 | swordz9 | Posted 1/11/2013 9:38:07 PM | message detail
The last decade has had some great JRPGs. Just nothing that would ever be popular enough to win on this site is all.
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#107 | HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2013 9:38:27 PM | message detail
A poll for comparison with today's:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728

FFX has performed deceptively impressive in polls like this too; it won thanks to five Nintendo-games fighting among itself, and a possible anchor was Chrono Cross. Skyrim's in a similar position since it's an RPG dominating SSBB/LoZ:TP/SMG fighting it out among themselves. It's even got a possible anchor in ME2.
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#108 | WhiteLens | Posted 1/11/2013 9:41:52 PM | message detail
More like the only JRPGs that ever won GotY polls were Chrono Cross and FFX....

...And FFVIII if we go back one year:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38
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#109 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/11/2013 9:42:56 PM | message detail
WhiteLens posted...
More like the only JRPGs that ever won GotY polls were Chrono Cross and FFX....

...And FFVIII if we go back one year:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38


Wrestlemania 2000 > Super Smash Bros. I see nothing wrong with this.
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#110 | HaRRicH | Posted 1/11/2013 9:46:07 PM | message detail
WhiteLens posted...
More like the only JRPGs that ever won GotY polls were Chrono Cross and FFX....


Fun fact: no GotY-polls were held in 2000. SB just added CC to fill the gap, presumably because LoZ:MM and FF9 had their series already represented. FF8 and FFX are the only JRPGs to officially win GotY.
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#111 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/11/2013 9:55:51 PM | message detail
Me very surprised at Mario Galaxy's performance in this poll, especially in how it's managing to avoid getting SFF'd so badly by Brawl/TP like usual. Only two explanations for how this could happen:

-Metroid Prime and/or Wind Waker not being present in the poll does far more to help Galaxy than you'd expect.
-Galaxy has gotten a good boost since GOTD and is possibly only a step or two behind the strongest games in its series.
-Galaxy is now the most critically acclaimed game of all time according to Gamerankings, so it boosted just like that!

On the other hand, ye gods I expected much better from ME2 (currently the #2 game on unikgamer). What the heck is going on here? And no I don't buy two WRPGs sharing a fanbase...or I guess I probably would not have during BGE2009 (when we had WoW vs. Oblivion) - maybe now it makes more sense given how WRPGs are huge on this site. Then again, I would never have expected Skyrim to kill ME2 this badly. Then again, after ME3 maybe that series isn't as well-liked by GFAQs as it was back in 2010.
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#112 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/11/2013 10:00:42 PM | message detail
Since it's close and I'm bored:

1 Hour In:
East: 49.30%
West: 50.70%

Replace East with Nintendo and West with The World if it makes you feel better!
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#113 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/11/2013 10:01:33 PM | message detail
After one hour into this poll:

Skyrim has 64.64% on ME2 and 56.96% against Brawl. In an actual contest setting, I'd expect Skyrim/Brawl to be a closer match than that.
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#114 | Big Bob | Posted 1/11/2013 10:07:28 PM | message detail
Iunno, these days I might even take Fallout 3 to beat Brawl.
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#115 | Metal_DK | Posted 1/11/2013 10:07:48 PM | message detail
WhiteLens posted...
More like the only JRPGs that ever won GotY polls were Chrono Cross and FFX....

...And FFVIII if we go back one year:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38


damn. I didnt start posting on gfaqs till 2002, was gfaqs in its earliest days actually a sony haven? Then after the site started to blow the f*** up around 2001/2002 it became a nintendo site?
#116 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/11/2013 11:24:42 PM | message detail
Welp, ME2 > Mario Galaxy now.

Then again, another way of looking at it is ME2 struggling to beat a Mario Galaxy dealing with other Nintendo games, and somehow I still don't really buy into the whole Skyrim > ME2 SFF thing.
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#117 | redrocket | Posted 1/12/2013 1:40:26 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4962&region=ASI

Skyrim is actually dominating more in Asia.
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#118 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/12/2013 1:56:55 AM | message detail
It's weird to see a WRPG dominating in Asia, but that could be blamed on the Nintendo games being weak there.
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#119 | MirandaShepard | Posted 1/12/2013 2:44:46 AM | message detail
Wow, nice showing by Galaxy here. I'm rather impressed. Skyrim is a beast, of course. ME2 doubling up Borderlands makes ME3 look worse (as does Borderlands 2's showing in general).

Kinda weird seeing Call of Duty getting rocked so hard when it really has nothing hindering it, especially considering it took third in the GOTD poll after 2009.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728

Man, that series has really fallen.
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#120 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/12/2013 2:59:55 AM | message detail
There Leon.

Galaxy almost beating ME2 despite having both TP and Brawl, its two worst opponents, in the poll.

I hope you're happy with that!
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#121 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/12/2013 3:03:46 AM | message detail
I just said I was!

Well, I said I was impressed. That's not quite the same thing, I guess.

But yes, I'm happy.

Also Ocarina of Time is any Nintendo game's worst opponent let's get that straight
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#122 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/12/2013 3:32:21 AM | message detail | (edited)
But at the same time I'm kind of bummed out because we missed out on Mass Effect's peak and really seeing what ME2 could have done in a contest. Same with Shepard, although I suppose we did see him shortly after ME2 in 2010.

But that's true of a lot of things we've missed out on by not having a real contest in over two years now.

And it's depressing seeing this poll with 13,000 votes after 6 and a half hours. That's probably the most depressing part.
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#123 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/12/2013 5:08:36 AM | message detail
That should shut up the few Skyrim doubters that were still out there.

Even with all the LFF going on, it still also shows that any Brawl drop is just wishful thinking from the anti-fans and is simply another case of Board8 hearing itself in an echo chamber about how everybody hates Brawl. Granted, it's possible it still dropped, but it's still top of the Nintendo heirarchy and scoring an easy second, currently putting up 38.61% on Skyrim despite the LFF.

I'd be very interested to see Brawl/Skyrim in a contest setting, as they're the two strongest games of their generation. And also because Brawl/FO3 was an awesome match itself.
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#124 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/12/2013 5:15:55 AM | message detail
The funny thing is, going off of GotD, Brawl has if anything gotten stronger. Hard to believe it struggled to beat MGS4.

Then again, there's no denying that MGS4 dropped to hell (and speaking personally, thank goodness for that).
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#125 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/12/2013 5:53:25 AM | message detail
Dear god no, MGS4 is all kinds of awesome. It deserved to have that strength.

(and no I'm not one of those "MGS4 is a top 20 game" guys)
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#126 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/12/2013 5:58:30 AM | message detail
MGS4 sucks.

Its decline in strength is well deserved. I liked the first 40% of the game, sure, but after that... Some of the least fun I've ever had with a game.
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#127 | Zylothewolf | Posted 1/12/2013 5:59:48 AM | message detail
MGS4 deserves more praise, it's easily top 20 material.

It's sad that Brawl might be the most popular game this generation but we already knew that.
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#128 | transience | Posted 1/12/2013 6:09:30 AM | message detail
hey, cool poll. it's like Allen was reading this topic/my mind!

Skyrim showing it's legit. this poll is 3 Nintendo games, 3 WRPGs and MW2, and the WRPGs are winning in percentage. Skyrim and ME2 can hold its own against Brawl/TP/Galaxy, too. I'm sticking with my thoughts yesterday that Skyrim could hang with Brawl at the very least, and is a top 10 game on this website.
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#129 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/12/2013 6:17:18 AM | message detail | (edited)
Lightning Strikes posted...
MGS4 sucks.

Its decline in strength is well deserved. I liked the first 40% of the game, sure, but after that... Some of the least fun I've ever had with a game.


Okay fine, I'll admit that I still really enjoyed Acts 3 and 4. Then again I haven't picked the game back up since around the 20th of December or something since I got into other games.

Resident Evil 4, now there's a ridiculous overhyped (but still awesome) game that should decline in strength.
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#130 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 1/12/2013 6:20:30 AM | message detail | (edited)
I was sceptical of Skyrim holding its 2011 strength but 27% against this competition is no joke. It has won every poll it has appeared in handily. Wish we'd get to see how it fares 1v1 in a contest.

Edit: Forgot to add a "LOL 2012". Talk about a weak year.
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#131 | Metal_DK | Posted 1/12/2013 6:47:30 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
MGS4 sucks.

Its decline in strength is well deserved. I liked the first 40% of the game, sure, but after that... Some of the least fun I've ever had with a game.


Sucks is way too absurd to say about the game.

i agree that acts 1/2 had some great gameplay. Act 3 was probably the worst since it was just a covert follow/escort mission type. Act 4 was more for nostalgia and story than anything else, its gameplay though was pretty boring and non existent though.

Act 5's gameplay of getting inside the ship + gunfight with the frogs + screaming mantis was pretty great. Good combination of stealth, action, and a decent boss fight.

I'll admit MGS4 is the weakest in the series, but honestly the first two games are just really damn good. MGS3 I felt the series was somewhat getting weaker, although im pretty sure its by far the favorite one on b8.
#132 | Metal_DK | Posted 1/12/2013 6:48:16 AM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
I was sceptical of Skyrim holding its 2011 strength but 27% against this competition is no joke. It has won every poll it has appeared in handily. Wish we'd get to see how it fares 1v1 in a contest.

Edit: Forgot to add a "LOL 2012". Talk about a weak year.


one of the worst years in gaming. We've been having a lot of those lately......
#133 | HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2013 6:58:49 AM | message detail
While BL2 was never going to be competitive, there are a few factors to consider:

1) It relies on multiplayer while SSBB is in the poll.
2) It's part WRPG while ME2 and Skyrim are in the poll.
3) It's part FPS while CoD:MW2 is in the poll.

It's being tugged at in several different directions.
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#134 | transience | Posted 1/12/2013 7:10:40 AM | message detail
nah, that's excuses for BL2. it's just not on the level of these other games.

and this is just personal opinion, but BL2 will fade fairly quickly once the zeitgeist of the game dies off. I don't think people will look back on it in 10 years as an all-time game like you would a Skyrim or a Galaxy.
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#135 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2013 8:58:43 AM | message detail
Yeah even CoD4 did well before it dropped off the face of the Earth.

Too bad Skyrim doesn't really have a character to rally behind, would be interesting to see how one would perform.
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#136 | red sox 777 | Posted 1/12/2013 9:04:54 AM | message detail
Team Nintendo is a little over 45% now. Skyrim is crushing this poll- who takes it over Brawl? Melee? Is anyone bold enough to take it over CT/SMB3/SMW?
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#137 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/12/2013 9:24:51 AM | message detail
I'd probably take Skyrim over Melee, but not Brawl, even though Melee and Brawl are close as is. I think they're all pretty close together.

I'd also take all three over CT, as I don't think that game has really maintained its strength that well.
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#138 | Boudii | Posted 1/12/2013 9:28:20 AM | message detail
we really need a games contest, there are so many more matches that I would be interested in than in a character battle.
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#139 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/12/2013 9:58:01 AM | message detail
A game of the generation contest would be sweet.

Lots of good match-ups, lots of pretty strong games around the same level, and it's hard to say who would win.
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#140 | transience | Posted 1/12/2013 10:06:39 AM | message detail
too bad he ran this poll. an actual contest would have been a lot better. I would have been in the minority picking Skyrim, too!

I sent Allen a message saying I wanted a game contest and he responded "we do too".
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#141 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/12/2013 10:10:10 AM | message detail
I'd probably be the guy picking Skyrim to lose a round early. It worked with Prime > HL2. It's a big wager with this game; either this poll strength translates to contests and it can beat anything released 2001+, or it will be hit with a "Western game handicap" against Nintendo in a real contest.
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#142 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/12/2013 10:11:47 AM | message detail
Well, he ran Game of the Decade polls before that contest. There's still hope!

I personally think that Game of the Generation would be the single best option for a contest, especially if it starts around Spring when big name games like Tomb Raider and Revengeance have come out. It's good timing for one, it would have a lot of great contenders, and while I want another BGE, I'd rather a contest without a foregone conclusion.
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#143 | transience | Posted 1/12/2013 10:25:31 AM | message detail | (edited)
GOTG is inferior to a game contest with FF7 and OOT removed. here's a random round of 16 you could see:

Chrono Trigger
Mass Effect 2

Brawl
Mario 64

Final Fantasy X
Mario 3

Pokemon RBY
LTTP

Melee
Final Fantasy 6

Skyrim
Majora's Mask

Metal Gear Solid
Super Mario World

Resident Evil 4
Metroid Prime

and this is leaving out FF8, Zelda 1, Goldeneye, Mario Kart, MGS3, Oblivion, etc

edit: forgot LTTP so I switched TP with it
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#144 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/12/2013 10:23:22 AM | message detail
Game of the Generation would be very disappointing, especially after this long.
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#145 | Boudii | Posted 1/12/2013 10:25:09 AM | message detail
A Best Game Ever would be the best imo. Games strength change over time and new games are always coming, so there is nothing wrong with having a BGE contest every few years
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#146 | Big Bob | Posted 1/12/2013 10:40:58 AM | message detail
Character of the generation?

Granted, Commander Shepard would be a frontrunner...
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#147 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/12/2013 10:45:02 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
A game of the generation contest would be sweet.

Lots of good match-ups, lots of pretty strong games around the same level, and it's hard to say who would win.


If we had our "Game of the Generation" contest near the end of 2013, it would cover a total of 8 years worth of games, which is slightly less than the 10 years of games for GOTD.
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#148 | redrocket | Posted 1/12/2013 10:47:06 AM | message detail
All this ____ of the Generation talk needs to stop.
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#149 | swordz9 | Posted 1/12/2013 10:50:07 AM | message detail
Any contest where the final isn't pretty much the same dull match is fine with me. Even if strength changes over time BGE would still have a high chance of the same boring final rematch that has ended the same way for a while.
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#150 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/12/2013 11:01:04 AM | message detail
Most impressive game on that poll.... MW2. Jesus how the **** is it not getting mauled by more. Worst GOTY winner ever. On any site.
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