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#401 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:16:05 PM | message detail
here's an after-the-fact reaction: does anyone think Xenoblade is hurting ME3?
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#402 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:16:18 PM | message detail
I don't know any of these games' trends. What time does TWD do best in? ME3? Xenoblade? AC3?
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#403 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:16:35 PM | message detail
Why would it?
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#404 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:16:53 PM | message detail
both RPGs, of course
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#405 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/9/2013 9:17:43 PM | message detail
But Borderlands is also a sequel! It's like I said earlier: this year doesn't have a Skyrim to decimate everything. In fact, there are only three "big name" games in this poll, and the one that didn't receive fan and industry criticism is the one leading comfortably. Walking Dead and Xenoblade are taking advantage not only of their excellent reputations, but of the very weak opposition. As you said, this is probably the weakest GotY ever and I'd love a follow-up poll asking "how many of our GotY nominees have you actually played?"
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#406 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:17:50 PM | message detail
The two games with the most overlap in this poll are Borderlands 2 and Mass Effect 3, I think. Both are FPS/WRPG hybrids. Then Xenoblade/Mario for being Wii exclusives. And neither of those are very big overlap, either. It's a pretty fair poll.
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#407 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/9/2013 9:17:51 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4960&region=US

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#408 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:19:52 PM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | #402
I don't know any of these games' trends. What time does TWD do best in? ME3? Xenoblade? AC3?


We don't really have trends for the games themselves. If you want stats for the series themselves...

Assassin's Creed has usually had a good day vote and an okay night vote. Mass Effect has relatively balanced trends.
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#409 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:20:04 PM | message detail
so if this holds, is Halo 4 the #2 GOTY?
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#410 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:20:56 PM | message detail
From: PartOfYourWorld | #405
But Borderlands is also a sequel!


A sequel that was better received than the original, if I recall correctly.

Which would be a big deal here.
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#411 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/9/2013 9:21:22 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #402
I don't know any of these games' trends. What time does TWD do best in? ME3? Xenoblade? AC3?


We don't really have trends for the games themselves. If you want stats for the series themselves...

Assassin's Creed has usually had a good day vote and an okay night vote. Mass Effect has relatively balanced trends.


Isn't Assassin's Creed usually an 'everything but the board vote' series? I mean, it's stronger during the day than overnight, but it usually bombs the board vote. Here, the board vote was it's only sign of life.
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#412 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:22:16 PM | message detail
From: transience | #409
so if this holds, is Halo 4 the #2 GOTY?


Halo 4 got 37%~ on Borderlands 2.

ME3 currently has 40.5%~.
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#413 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:22:39 PM | message detail
Halo 4 being the #2 GotY means that Far Cry 3 would be the #3, and I can't really see that happening on GameFAQs.

I don't know man, GotY polls are weird.
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#414 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:23:46 PM | message detail
close! ME3 will make it closer.

since these games are so weak and, like yoblazer said, a lot of people haven't played them, I kinda wonder if the final GOTY poll ends up being radically different. I doubt it, but these games wouldn't break the GameFAQs top 50 strongest games.
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#415 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:23:51 PM | message detail
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #411
Isn't Assassin's Creed usually an 'everything but the board vote' series? I mean, it's stronger during the day than overnight, but it usually bombs the board vote. Here, the board vote was it's only sign of life.


Ezio had a bad board vote against Simon Belmont, but that was a weird poll that started like 10-15 minutes late, if I recall correctly, so I wouldn't count it. He did pretty bad for the first few hours against Zelda, but he was much better after that.
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#416 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:25:11 PM | message detail
I wonder if Borderlands 2 beats ME3 1 v 1. I'm not sure it would.
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#417 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/9/2013 9:25:16 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
I don't know any of these games' trends. What time does TWD do best in? ME3? Xenoblade? AC3?


Trends for The Walking Dead:

EBV | 43.58%
PHV | 41.16%
FNV | 44.47%
BSV | 44.70%
DSV | 45.77%
ASV | 46.42%
SNV | 46.46%

Terrible Power Hour, but it does have an excellent day vote. The poll happened on a weekend, so the day vote starts in the morning.
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#418 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/9/2013 9:25:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, this is just a crummy year. The biggest games disappointed us and it made people CONFUSED AND ANGRY

To think that with a proper ad campaign and release, Xenoblade might be challenging for GotY.
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#419 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:26:24 PM | message detail
Well, GOTY results rarely hold serve in actual contests.

Or rather, they rarely hold up over time. Remember MGS4 and Brawl going neck and neck in 2008? How do you figure that one goes now?
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#420 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:26:40 PM | message detail
'A proper ad campaign' for Xenoblade, the game that almost didn't get released while already being translated. Those are some big dreams, yo!
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#421 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:26:59 PM | message detail
I dunno. Brawl and MGS4 both have dropped off about equally.
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#422 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:27:23 PM | message detail
From: transience | #421
I dunno. Brawl and MGS4 both have dropped off about equally.


I don't think Brawl would be in danger of losing to SOTC in anything any time soon.
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#423 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/9/2013 9:27:36 PM | message detail
Shadow of the Colossus beats BOTH now.
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#424 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/9/2013 9:27:39 PM | message detail
Another GotY result not holding up would have been Galaxy > CoD4, which reversed itself in the BGE 2009 contest.
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#425 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/9/2013 9:28:48 PM | message detail
MGS4 would probably keep it relatively close with Brawl because of Brawl factors, but I don't think the result would ever be in doubt.
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#426 | UltimaterializerX (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/9/2013 9:29:04 PM | message detail
Did people really hate the ending THIS much?
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#427 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:29:06 PM | message detail
remember when we got 1600 votes in 5 minutes for the L-Block matches? yeah
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#428 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:29:14 PM | message detail
From: -LusterSoldier- | #424
Another GotY result not holding up would have been Galaxy > CoD4, which reversed itself in the BGE 2009 contest.


And I think had pretty much reversed itself back by GOTD. I don't think anyone takes CoD4 to win that match now.
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#429 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:29:37 PM | message detail
From: UltimaterializerX | #426
Did people really hate the ending THIS much?


They must have.

Because the first 99% of the game is amazing.
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#430 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:30:07 PM | message detail
GotY polls are largely decided by people who haven't played everything. ME3 isn't getting voted in by people who only know about the ending.
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#431 | UltimaterializerX (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/9/2013 9:30:49 PM | message detail
I'm currently in the first 99% of the game!

It takes some getting used to, but once you do it's solid.
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#432 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/9/2013 9:31:48 PM | message detail
Am I the only guy here who has put lots of time in Xeno and ME3? Think KP would have too, but I dunno. The fanbases seem mutually exclusive even here.
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#433 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:31:50 PM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | #430
GotY polls are largely decided by people who haven't played everything.


Yeah, which is why I don't think these results will hold up over time as more and more people play the games instead of voting based on any number of other factors (or maybe voting for the only game out of the lot they've played, like me!). New games are weird like that. Even characters from new games are weird like that. Remember Lightning getting 38% on Sonic before FFXIII even came out in America?
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#434 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:32:14 PM | message detail
I wonder if ME3 soured people on ME2. that was a top 5 game this gen as of just a year or two ago.
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#435 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:32:58 PM | message detail | (edited)
Haven't played ME3 quite yet, but it's literally the next game I'm going to play. Otherwise, yeah. Not the two most overlapping fanbases.
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#436 | UltimaterializerX (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/9/2013 9:32:54 PM | message detail
From: PartOfYourWorld | #432
Am I the only guy here who has put lots of time in Xeno and ME3? Think KP would have too, but I dunno. The fanbases seem mutually exclusive even here.


I'm playing Xenoblade once I finish up the R&C series and mail it back to Leon.
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#437 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:34:55 PM | message detail | (edited)
I would like to play Xenoblade eventually, but I have a lot of other games to play before I get there. Plus, I don't have as much time to sink into a game like that nowadays anyway. It'd probably take me two months at least to beat it.

I also keep hoping it'll eventually get a price drop, but I'm probably dumb for trying to wait for that.
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#438 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:34:51 PM | message detail
Nintendo game exclusive to a retailer? you'll be seeing a price raise before a price drop.
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#439 | transience | Posted 1/9/2013 9:35:57 PM | message detail
ME3 is locked into second. it's shooting up now that the early vote is going away.

Xenoblade looks good for third.
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#440 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/9/2013 9:36:24 PM | message detail
transience posted...
I wonder if ME3 soured people on ME2. that was a top 5 game this gen as of just a year or two ago.


It's a shame we never got to see Mass Effect 2 in real action pre-ME3. The only things we have to judge it on are Mass Effect 1 in GOTD and Shepard getting beaten pretty badly by Pikachu despite Mass Effect 2 being a fairly recent release (I think?).

Now if Mass Effect things bombs in a contest we'll never know if it's because Mass Effect 2's strength was exaggerated or because Mass Effect 3 caused a big drop.
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#441 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:36:25 PM | message detail
Yeah I would at least buy it now if you're interested. I bought Xenoblade months before I got around to it because I was scared the price would skyrocket.
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#442 | swordz9 | Posted 1/9/2013 9:36:27 PM | message detail
Persona 4 Arena is the only game in the poll I've played aside from an XCOM demo. I have AC1, but haven't played it yet. The only games in the poll I'd play aside from P4A are The Walking Dead and XCOM. Not really interested in the rest.
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#443 | xp1337 | Posted 1/9/2013 9:37:10 PM | message detail
From: PartOfYourWorld | #432
Am I the only guy here who has put lots of time in Xeno and ME3? Think KP would have too, but I dunno. The fanbases seem mutually exclusive even here.

I think they're the only 2012 games I've actually played (and beaten)! But then... I'm not sure I qualify as "here" generally.
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#444 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:37:24 PM | message detail
From: transience | #438
Nintendo game exclusive to a retailer? you'll be seeing a price raise before a price drop.


Yeah, I know, but I'm cheap nowadays. I find it hard to pull the trigger on a game for more than like 25 bucks unless I really want it.

I want Xenoblade, but I don't really want it. Despite all the high praise it gets, I'm partially concerned that it wouldn't be the type of RPG I go crazy over based on what I know about it.
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#445 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:37:30 PM | message detail
transience posted...
ME3 is locked into second. it's shooting up now that the early vote is going away.

Xenoblade looks good for third.


Not really. It's been keeping the same 20-ish vote lead for a while now, and Xenoblade probably has the better day vote. And Europe vote.

I wouldn't count out The Walking Dead, either. It has nowhere to go but up.
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#446 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:38:43 PM | message detail
Also, I don't think ME3 would sour people on ME2. If anything, I think it'd stabilize it. ME2 is now clearly the favorite game of the series.
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#447 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2013 9:40:00 PM | message detail
I don't think ME2 will be affected much, but I could see it drop a bit. If the conclusion is disappointing in a series like that, where everything builds off of everything else, it can easily hurt the series as a whole.
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#448 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/9/2013 9:40:20 PM | message detail
From: transience | #438
Nintendo game exclusive to a retailer? you'll be seeing a price raise before a price drop.


Yeah, if you manage to find a sealed $50 copy at GameStop, jump on it. There's no guarantee that Nintendo re-releases it in any form.

Anyway, Xenoblade and ME3 are quite dissimilar and left very different imprints on me (still not done with Xenoblade, but I'm at the very end). ME3 is gaming's biggest rollercoaster - rarely has a game peaked higher and crashed lower. There are probably fans out there who consider the mid-game climax to be the best gaming moment ever, and the ending to be the worst. The disparity is that extreme.

Xenoblade has just been consistently awesome.
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#449 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/9/2013 9:41:54 PM | message detail
ME3's ending really isn't that bad.

But the internet makes it out to be that bad, unfortunately.
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#450 | swordz9 | Posted 1/9/2013 9:42:40 PM | message detail
The cheapest you'll probably find Xenoblade is $40-$45 used unless people sell it cheaper on ebay or something. I see copies of it at every GameStop I go to, but maybe it's just not big in my area.
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