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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1048
Steelers_Best posted... Separating WRPG and JRPGs huh? Thats probably the best way to do it, and it keeps Tales of Graces in the RPG poll! It still doesn't rule out the chance of a third RPG poll that includes the top 3 or 4 games from the Western and Eastern RPG polls. So we might end up with a "Best Role-Playing Game (Final)" poll. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Retro Analysis V: Liquid Snake Significant Results Frog – 50.05% Liquid Snake – 49.95% Alucard – 27.79% Liquid Snake – 27.79% Ness – 25.42% Zidane Tribal – 19.01% Stats Years Participated: 2004, Spring 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010 Win-Loss Ratio: 5-5 My Prediction Record: 7-3 Analysis Liquid Snake is one of those characters that I love to watch, but hate to predict. You almost have a better chance at flipping a coin when it comes to predicting his strength for any given year. Liquid’s first contest was in 2004 where he was one of a handful of characters that the board wanted to see. Sadly he was given a match against the board’s most hyped and rallied character, Frog. While most people expected Liquid to have decent strength it was not going to be close to Frog in which some people thought he could reach as high as Magus. Liquid had other ideas and essentially shocked the board and went toe to toe with Frog. In classic matches we usually have comebacks, but given that both characters had essentially the same vote trends we were treated with almost 24 hours of evenness. The largest lead was Frog’s mere 460 at late morning, which was a record for the closest wire to wire match that held until 2009. Liquid was able to take the lead and even tried to make a late comeback, but Frog was able to hold on for a slim 93 vote win. While most people believed that Liquid Snake’s x-stats were elevated due to Solid **** most people believed that Liquid was a strong character. So it was a shame that he was placed in the same division as Sephiroth and had no debatable matches, but that was essentially the villain’s contest in a nutshell. Liquid started off well almost breaking 80% on Officer Tenpenny, but by the second round it was clear that Liquid was nowhere close to his suggested 2004 value. After going even with Frog Liquid goes and puts up 55.62% against Lavos. Maybe I’m wrong, but my impression of Lavos is that he should not be anywhere that close to someone that should be Frog’s equal. Liquid then goes to show that performance was no fluke and gets tripled against Sephiroth. After a break Liquid Snake returned for the 2007 contest and was placed in one of the most debated four-packs of the first round. While the consensus was that Alucard would win while Ness would finish second, however Liquid was a popular upset pick plus the order was debated. The matched lived up to its hype with Alucard, Liquid and Ness all going even at the beginning. Ness would eventually lose pace and while he tried to create a comeback during the morning the match became a two-horse race. Alucard was able to build a lead of 400 before Liquid began cutting and took the lead himself by morning. He was able to build a lead of about 700 votes without much difficulty before Alucard finally began to stall and cut the lead. At the rate Alucard was cutting it looked like Liquid had this match won, but with just over 3 hours remaining and a 500 vote lead Alucard finally woke up and started making significant cuts. The pace was a little bit off with an hour remaining, but Alucard kicked it to an even higher gear and retook the lead with 10 minutes to go which sent the board into an even higher frenzy. Just before the final update Alucard had a lead of 17 and given the trend going on it looked like he had won. At the final update we were not only treated to the closest match and an even percent, but Liquid was able to pull off the 3 vote win. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
Even
though no one thought Liquid or Alucard had a chance in the next round
there was a bit of hype to watch them battle for third place. However we
were treated with one of the most unusual results, Alucard turned a 3
vote loss into a 9000 vote win. I still don’t know how to explain the
results. The result is too different to call it random variation, no new
releases that should make a difference and the picture doesn’t seem to
give one any more of an advantage between rounds. Best I can say is that
either Ness or Zidane held Alucard back or Master Chief or Yuna hurt
Liquid, either one doesn’t seem more likely. After flopping in the second round in 2007 the board did not have much confidence in Liquid Snake for 2008 despite the release of Metal Gear Solid 4 many people expected both Luigi and Bowser to defeat him in the second round despite LFF. Liquid then goes and surprises the board and puts up a very respectable performance against Luigi to the point where not only did it look like he had a chance of advancing he looked like he could outright win the match. The next round confirmed everyone’s suspicions and he had little trouble winning over both Luigi and Bowser. In round 3 Liquid took advantage of being the odd ball and put up a respectable showing against Mario and Mega Man X. In 2010 Liquid Snake had to qualify through the vote-in to reach the final bracket in which he finished third behind Frog and Rikku and barely defeating Big Daddy. Despite being a 15 seed he was considered the favourite against Altair, though the match was thought to be close. Altair while having some strength did not look to be that threatening and while Assassin’s Creed II was released the game was about Ezio, not Altair. After looking so good in 2008 Liquid goes and fails to break 41% on Altair. This would have been fine had this been an Altair boost, but he then goes and loses to Vivi in the next round and based on the four-pack stats Liquid was now expected to do worse against Donkey Kong than what he did against Luigi in 2008. I guess his performance in the vote-in was more accurate than what some of us would like to believe. It’s a bit hard to predict where Liquid will fall in the next contest, I guess he’s due for a good performance now. The only suggestion I would give for someone trying to predict his performance would be to be careful taking him over “casual” opponents and Final Fantasy VII. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
My
predition: If this does end up being a JRPG poll, I expect Xenoblade to
flop. I can't see a Wii only RPG doing well these days with how people
view the Wii. --- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/files/2013/01/lewis1.jpg We'll miss you, Ray |
Xenoblade... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4841 ...versus the sequels to Pokemon B/W and FFXIII... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4585 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4211 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4213 ...I'm liking Xenoblade, even though I have my own distrust for the Wii-exclusive poll. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
Xenoblade currently with a small lead over Pokemon B/W2. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
And now they're going head to head. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
This is a good battle for #1. Hopefully Persona 4 can get involved too. --- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/files/2013/01/lewis1.jpg We'll miss you, Ray |
Persona 4 with a great start too. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
...So does Persona have actual strength now to hang with Pokemon and demolish Final Fantasy? --- SuperNiceDog took my lunch money. |
Pokemon
has a strong board vote so I don't think it'll stay in the running.
Maybe if Xenoblade also has a strong board votes it'll become
competitive. --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
I
don't think Xenoblade will keep up for long at all, but we'll see. I am
surprised it's in 2nd so far though what with being a niche JRPG and a
Wii game on this site. I fully expected the more popular/known RPGs to
be crushing it. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
I feel Xenoblade may have a stronger board vote. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
Keep
in mind Pokemon BW2 is more like a special edition of Pokemon BW than
an actual sequel. It should be a fair bit weaker than Pokemon BW. --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
Checking the other poll, Xenoblade has a very strong Europe/Asia vote compared to its NA numbers. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Big Bob posted... ...So does Persona have actual strength now to hang with Pokemon and demolish Final Fantasy? Eh, not really. Persona has a loyal fanbase, Pokemon always does poorly in GotY polls AND is splitting with Xenoblade, and FFXIII-2 is complete trash, as shown by it losing to Tales of Graces. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png |
I
imagine the top three games all have strong board votes. Xenoblade had
the strongest immediate board-vote, so maybe it has a harder fall ahead
of it...but it's still anybody's game. Isn't Persona 4 Golden just on the Vita? --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
Very
early on, it seemed like Xenoblade had the stronger board vote, but
Pokemon came back and had the slight advantage for the past 2 minutes of
the board vote. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Checking the other poll, Xenoblade has a very strong Europe/Asia vote compared to its NA numbers. There's also probably like 10 votes from Europe right now so that can change quickly. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
It's
worth noting that there's supposed to be a big Pokemon announcement
that's coming up in a few hours. If it really is a big one, it might
help Pokemon BW2 a bit. --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
HaRRicH posted... Isn't Persona 4 Golden just on the Vita? Yep, but since it's just an improved port there's no reason anybody who played P4 can't vote for it. That's probably why it's looking so good since it's just the same game, but better aside from being on a device nobody wants. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
KamikazePotato posted... Checking the other poll, Xenoblade has a very strong Europe/Asia vote compared to its NA numbers. I'd blame that on Xenoblade being released in NA nearly a year after Europe/Asia/Australia. Keeping in mind that Xenoblade wasn't originally intended for the NA market until they protested against Nintendo. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Persona 4 falling back down to Earth ToG and FFXIII-2 may come close to it before this is over. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
You know, I just realized that Chaos Rings 2 made it over Paper Mario. That makes no sense. --- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/files/2013/01/lewis1.jpg We'll miss you, Ray |
Is Sticker Star even an RPG? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
From: KamikazePotato | #175 Is Sticker Star even an RPG? I haven't played it, but Gamefaqs lists it as a console style RPG on the site. http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/997828-paper-mario-sticker-star --- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/files/2013/01/lewis1.jpg We'll miss you, Ray |
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Well, either way, those reader ratings should tell you why its not on the poll. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
yeah that's lower than ff13-2 --- xyzzy |
swordz9 posted... HaRRicH posted...Isn't Persona 4 Golden just on the Vita? Improved ports generally do worse than their originals, don't they? --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
Xenoblade takes the lead again. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
calling it Xenoblade --- xyzzy |
From: Team Rocket Elite | #180 Improved ports generally do worse than their originals, don't they? I think it just goes to show how weak this crop of games are if an improved port of a game that doesn't have much strength to begin with is #3. --- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/files/2013/01/lewis1.jpg We'll miss you, Ray |
Early Europe statz: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4958®ion=EUR This reminds me of when we hand contests --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I have no clue, but if Persona 4 was your favorite JRPG there's no reason not to vote for Persona 4 Golden. I did. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
nah,
Persona is different than something like CTDS. Persona fans will vote
for Persona no matter the case. you saw it the other day when it won
best fighting game despite the fact that a fraction of the audience had
actually played it. --- xyzzy |
Persona the biggest standout in this poll, I think. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Now that I think about it, Tales of Graces f is also an improved port (although the original never came over here). --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
Pokemon
is going to gave to survive the night vote if it wants to win this.
Based on the vote totals that means it can't behind by more than a few
hundred votes unless Xenoblade really flops the day vote. *refreshes* Pokemon cut! --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
Oh hey, FF13-2 pulled ahead of Tales of Graces f. Good job!!! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
well one thing's for sure Mass Effect 3 is going to destroy the final --- xyzzy |
It's
a shame Graces isn't doing too well. I mean it never would on this
site, but it definitely has the best battle system out of these games.
If the plot was better it'd be an amazing game. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
#2: Borderlands 2 #3: probably Pokemon or Xenoblade, maaaaaybe Walking Dead but probably not --- xyzzy |
Graces
f has the absolute best RPG battle system I've ever played combined
with one of the dumbest RPG stories I've ever experienced. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
sounds like a Tales game though even the Tales fans are saying it's bad this time, so it must really be dreadful --- xyzzy |
so,
thinking about trends, Pokemon is traditionally a power hour/day vote
game that gets killed overnight, and Xenoblade is like the definition of
a Europe game. Pokemon probably falls off pretty hard soon, and P4 may
actually pass it overnight until the day vote blows it up big. contest matches! I remember these! --- xyzzy |
Night Vote vs. Day Vote wooo --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Holy crap, I didn't even notice how 'well' Chaos Rings 2 was doing. What's the record for worst performance in a poll thus far? --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
KamikazePotato posted... Graces f has the absolute best RPG battle system I've ever played combined with one of the dumbest RPG stories I've ever experienced. Yeah. If it was that battle system with Tales of Vesperia it'd be incredible. Graces f's plot is just really boring and predictable. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
KamikazePotato posted... Holy crap, I didn't even notice how 'well' Chaos Rings 2 was doing. What's the record for worst performance in a poll thus far? Before the current poll, I think this was the lowest this year: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4953 Unstoppable Gorg - 0.48% --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
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