GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1046
Also
upon looking at these things for the first time in forever, Super Mario
Sunshine somehow ranks lower in the GotD X-Stats than NSMBWii. I mean, GotD X-Stats are all kinds of messed up, but Sunshine is not looked upon favorably by the Mario fanbase. It wouldn't have lost to Halo 3 otherwise. Simple as that. --- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif |
From: Lopen | #150 Mario 1 gets respect but I don't think many people like it that much. HM's really the only person I've ever seen that reveres it as some sort of gameplay marvel more than being "classic." Can totally see it getting some Pac-Man syndrome. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. For one thing, not nearly as many people have played Pac-Man nowadays. Its playrate certainly isn't comparable on this site to Mario 1. But Mario 1 showed some legit strength in the 4-ways Games Contest that I don't think you can chalk up to simply "It only gets votes because it's well respected and not because people actually like it." It's definitely not in the Tetris tier. Mario 1 is still a good game, even by today's standards. This is a different situation. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
Eh,
the four way contest is like... SMB romping against a bunch of NES
games that very little of our userbase has played, then folding like
Pac-Man once it hit games that people have actually played and loved.
Not entirely fair because it was SFFed to hell, but... I don't know--
I'd trust it a lot more if I didn't suspect a lot of the NES
quadrant voting was franchise based. I'm pretty skeptical it'd do that
well in a generationless division free for all. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
From: Lopen | #153 SMB romping against a bunch of NES games that very little of our userbase has played Zelda 1 isn't an NES game that very little of our user base has played. And it folded because it hit Mario 3 and Mario World at the same time. It's not a matter of "It hit games people cared about so it looked bad." It was a matter of "It hit two games within its own series that are considered better than it," which is totally different. I mean, look at how Zelda 1 performed in that match. It nearly eliminated Mario 3 because of that. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
SMB1 is the best game in the series. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
From: LeonhartFour | #151 Also upon looking at these things for the first time in forever, Super Mario Sunshine somehow ranks lower in the GotD X-Stats than NSMBWii. This is also pretty terrible. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Yeah. I'm not saying I expect it to fold that
hard against games people have played. Well aware of the mass SFF
there-- I'm just saying that uh, put it in divisions full of 16 bit+
games and I don't think it looks nearly as strong as it did. Also uh SMB didn't really romp against Zelda. It romped against the other games, and had closeish bouts with Zelda. I mean I'm not saying it's full blown Pac-Man where anything with a following can beat it... just saying it's Pac-Man...ish. Change the other two games in that poll from SMB3 and SMW to Final Fantasy VI and Super Smash Bros Melee and I don't expect SMB to hold up much better. Largely speculation but not much else we can do but speculate! The data on SMB isn't particularly good. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
It romped Zelda the first time. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Ulti is that you --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3479 I'll call winning by 10,000 votes in a 4-way a romp regardless of what the percentages may say. --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
Anyway
uh, if anything Mario winning by a lot against Zelda + 2 fodder and
then winning by very little against Zelda + MM2 and Tetris lends support
to my theory, I think. And good thing you edited I was about to bust out a Knuckles Yuna 55-45 romping --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
That was a romp! Bigger margin of victory than Melee over MGS2, in fact...! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Also,
I don't know if it really supports your theory because Tetris is the
ultimate "We respect it but we don't really love it" game, so it's not
like it really changes the variables other than you've added two much
stronger games. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Added two much stronger games Mario lost like twice the ground Zelda did That's pretty much how the Pac-Man principle works, buddy. Crushes fodder, folds against stronger stuff more than he should. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Pac-Man doesn't even crush fodder because it IS fodder! --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
(also in terms of strict percentage Zelda 1 didn't even gain that much ground) --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonhjpguz.jpg |
(Also yes I realize I'm changing my story as need be to fit my argument deal with it) --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
Hey Pac-Man totally crushed that Mystical Ninja guy And uh Kyo Kusa-- man he only he got 62% on him? Awesome. Let's nominate Kyo again for a returner. KoF XIII boost let's do it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Well, I was talking about the game, not the character, but nevertheless. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
I
was talking about the character since that's where the whole point of
me comparing it to Pac-Man! Pac-Man the game doesn't get any factors
named after it unless we have "this game is really weak" factor which I
don't see coming into play unless we're having a dumbest acronym
competition. Gosh it's like I leave this topic for 1.7 years and people have forgotten all the terminology. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Well, they suffer from the same problems, only Pac-Man the character is slightly more popular because of his design. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Also, I think this may be our first legitimate offseason contest discussion in like two years holy crap --- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif |
I
wasn't even aware Pac-Man the game had any matches where it didn't look
bad for us to test that it actually had that going for it to be honest!
Turns out it totally owned Pong and Oregon Trail who knew. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Well I only come here for legitimate discussions why do you think I've disappeared for 1.7 years --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Also Mario 1 beats Halo because it's friggin' Mario 1 No logic necessary --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
From: Lopen | #173 Turns out it totally owned Pong and Oregon Trail who knew. This tells you how awful of an idea a 4-way Games Contest by era was. We can't even remember most of what happened, and we had to give an entire division to games that never would've made it in if they didn't have their own division! Man, I wonder what GotD would've looked like if it was divided by year. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif |
Halo has the power of believe. It doesn't even need logic, but it just happens to have some in this case. And now I leave to sleep and forget this topic exists once more, sending it plunging back into the dark ages. I hope you enjoy your eternity of Luster poll facts and inane LinkMarioSamus segues. Ha ha ha ha... --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
If
there's one thing to bet on in the case of Mario 1 vs. Halo 1,
it's...Mario 1 soaking up Halo's anti-votes. Plus Halo may have
overperformed during GOTD due to voters giving it extra respect (due to
the whole "GOTD boost" or something). Halo 1 vs. Mario Galaxy would be more debatable. Side question: Do you think Mario Galaxy would defeat Modern Warfare more easily now than Modern Warfare defeated Mario Galaxy in BGE2? Also, I honestly believe that Mario Galaxy boosted between BGE2 and GOTD due to NSMBWii and SMG2 coming out. Anyone else with me? |
From: Lopen | #177 I hope you enjoy your eternity of...inane LinkMarioSamus segues. From: LinkMarioSamus | #178 Well played. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
LMS is a Lopen alt confirmed --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
LeonhartFour posted... You know, I'm starting to worry that we're going to have to start waiting for GameSpot's annual farce of a contest every year before we get to have a contest of our own. All 3 of GameSpot's contests were announced in August, with 2 of those contests starting in early September. So if GameSpot doesn't announce their next contest by mid-September, I'm assuming they won't be doing a contest this year. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Do
Halo and Master Chief still get anti-voted? I figured a lot of it was
due to being the face of the XBox which shouldn't really matter anymore.
If it's due to being from and FPS game there a bigger targets for
people to direct their hate these days. --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
I
don't think they get actively anti-voted or anything, or at least not
as much as they used to, but they're still not all that popular, which
is part of the reason I don't really think Halo is THAT GAME to take
advantage of whatever "Pac-Man Factor" Mario 1 may or may not have. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
I
don't think they get anti-voted that much today. I have noticed the
anti-voting towards Halo and Master Chief has died down somewhat over
the past few years. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
With so much new discussion, I thought we had a contest-announcement....sorely disappointed! Speaking of which, I'm unconvinced GameSpot'll run another contest. They have refused to learn from their lessons each time despite countless feedback and allowed 4chan to completely embarrass their last contest; as if it wasn't bad enough Bub & Bob beat Master Chief and Sonic in their Heros-contest or General RAAM upset Sephiroth in the Villians-contest, but they literally had a Sidekicks-final of Launchpad McQuack VS Albert Einstein. That's not an L-Block-situation where the internet humorously rallied behind one character in GameFAQs's ninth contest (in a new contest-format that better allowed this rally's success) -- one site largely pulled the strings for multiple characters every contest to troll. GameSpot showed they weren't going to adjust around this glaring flaw (or their many others) and instead just stopped advertising the Sidekick-contest as it got worse. I don't think they'll return for more. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
If that's the case, we can finally say 4chan did something good. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
Bump --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
Man we really need a contest ;0 *sends feedback ticket begging* |
Prior
to the poll that started at 9:00 PM EST due to a glitch, all polls
normally started at 12:01 AM EST. After that one poll which started at
9:00 PM EST, we've gone back to a 12:00 AM EST starting time again. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Bump --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
I'm
noticing that the new polls are going up slightly earlier than usual.
Today's poll just went up at 11:59:43 PM EST, or about 18 seconds
earlier than usual. This could cause problems for the First Vote
contest, especially if the new poll does not go up consistently at
11:59:43 PM (or off by one second at the most). --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Looking at today's PotD.... Chun Li vs Ken... Who do you got? I would have gone with Ken but with these early result, I'm not so sure... --- Congratulation to SuperNiceDog. Guru Champ and Rivalry Rumble Master |
We
need a new contest. It feels like forever since the last one.
Probably because the rivalry contest didn't even feel like a real
contest. Crono/Mario VI. Bring it on. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
with sballen busy adding so many useless features to the site I don't think we are going to get a contest anytime soon. --- ... |
Today's
results make it seem the site still thinks "lolWoW", even if PC gaming
seems to be rising a little. Even so, I'd like to see a poll dedicated
to Mists of Pandaria hype. Just to compare it with this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4054 --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
When do we call it and say 2012 will be the first year without a contest? --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
If we don't get a contest announcement by the end of this month, I will say this will be the first year without a contest. Also, excellent vote totals on today's poll. Today's poll will be the first poll in nearly 3 months to break 50000 votes. The last poll to break 50000 votes was a continent poll. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
LeonhartFour posted... Basically, the contest has to start by the end of October, and I'd imagine Bacon would take about a month or so to get everything rolling, so if we've heard absolutely nothing by mid-October, I'd start worrying. This ^^ --- Congratulation to SuperNiceDog. Guru Champ and Rivalry Rumble Master |
When was the 2010 contest announced? That might give us a good idea of when we should start worrying. --- Current Let's Play: Legend of Mana - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3474994 Previous LP's: http://lparchive.org/search/Mega64#results |
Not_Wylvane posted... When was the 2010 contest announced? That might give us a good idea of when we should start worrying. September 1, 2010 The 2011 contest was announced on September 23rd, 2011. --- Pokemon VGC2012 Canadian Nationals - 8th place |
