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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1044
This rallying is just as obvious as the Starcraft/Melee cheating. Votes per update from 12:00 PM to 2:00 PM 12:00 PM - 166 12:05 PM - 153 12:10 PM - 172 12:15 PM - 146 12:20 PM - 165 12:25 PM - 146 12:30 PM - 167 12:35 PM - 175 12:40 PM - 168 12:45 PM - 200 12:50 PM - 675 12:55 PM - 535 1:00 PM - 472 1:05 PM - 402 1:10 PM - 439 1:15 PM - 458 1:20 PM - 398 1:25 PM - 367 1:30 PM - 375 1:35 PM - 360 1:40 PM - 304 1:45 PM - 342 1:50 PM - 344 1:55 PM - 377 2:00 PM - 382 Prior to the rally, we were getting between 140 and 200 votes per update. Then it spiked to a 675 vote update at 12:50 PM. We haven't had a legitimate 675 vote update (or more than that) since the OoT/FFVII bonus match. At 12:00 PM (before the rallying), this poll was only projected to get about 46000 votes and we have already passed 46000 with nearly 6 hours still left to go. It took until 6:26 PM to get another update with less than 200 votes in it. Last time an update had less than 200 votes was the 12:40 PM update. Even right now, the past few updates have had above average vote totals in them, suggesting that the rally hasn't died down completely. During the 675 vote update, the first poll option jumped from 26.15% to 27.25% in a single update. That was a 69.78% update. After that point, the first poll option was getting a lot of updates between 60% and 69% between 12:50 PM and 2:00 PM. The 2:56 PM update was the last update to have an update of 60% or more for the first poll option. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
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There
is a guy in one of these topics in Bioware forum that says<Gamefaqs
is still around?>Man some people...Gamefaqs can't die! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
More topics on the BioWare forums about today's poll: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10470632 http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10471720 http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10473064 http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/10475493 Someone on the BioWare forums posted a vote stuffing method that doesn't work at all. The post said "Hey guys, just so you know this poll is moronic, you can clear your cookies and continue to vote." Yeah, that trick doesn't work at all. The last poll option built up a maximum lead of 1917 at 12:35 PM. After that point, it took only 50 minutes to wipe out a 1917 vote lead. The lead was completely gone at 1:25 PM. I know vote totals are a lot lower here compared to Starcraft/Melee, but today's rally is more intense than the cheating in Starcraft/Melee. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I wonder what the vote totals would be like if there was a "I haven't played Mass Effect 3 option" --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. http://oi44.tinypic.com/lfdsi.jpg |
Probably not much different. You can have an opinion on the subject without playing the game. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Given
that today's poll would have gotten around 46000 votes without any
rallying, it would seem like the lack of a "I haven't played Mass Effect
3" option hasn't had much of an impact on the vote totals. I don't
think the poll would have gotten over 50000 votes even with a "I haven't
played Mass Effect 3" option. From the looks of it, today's poll should finish with about 56000 votes. So that means about 10000 rallied votes in this poll alone. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I think it would have a few thousand more at least. From: -LusterSoldier- | #403 This suggests a huge amount of rallying but it is still only beating most recently polls by like 7-8k votes and the facebook one only by 2k. I guess the remaining 3 hours will add a few thousand too though. --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. http://oi44.tinypic.com/lfdsi.jpg |
Of
course there was a huge amount of rallying. I made a post earlier
about the huge jump in the number of incoming votes after 12:45 PM. I'm not sure where this second wave of rallying came from. The rallying in the first 3 hours of this poll was nothing compared to this. I think the rally might have been an Origin rally, similar to the Steam rallies for Gordon in the GameSpot contest. Origin is EA's equivalent to Steam. I wonder if anyone who has Origin can check to see if they posted a rally for our poll. I don't see any rallies on the BioWare or Mass Effect 3 Facebook pages. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Wow,
yesterday's poll got an unusually high number of votes from Europe
because of all that rallying. Highest percentage of votes from Europe
in a full 24 hour poll: 19.53% - Do you think BioWare should change the ending of Mass Effect 3? 18.42% - Which classic EA franchise would you most like to see revived? 18.04% - Have you ever bought a game for your mobile phone? 17.40% - Are you wearing green today? 17.23% - BEST OF 2010: Best New Original Title 2 of those polls were in the past week, including yesterday's poll. The poll from yesterday easily smashed the previous record of 18.42%. Nearly 20% of the votes from Europe is a record that probably won't be broken for a long time. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Hourly trends for yesterday's poll: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg853/scaled.php?server=853&filename=masseffect3polltrends.png&res=medium Best thing about the second wave of rallying was that the 1:00-2:00 PM hour had more votes than the first hour of the poll. You normally don't see that happen in a poll. The first rally was so small that it didn't have any noticeable effect on the hourly vote totals, but the second rally was more obvious than the Starcraft/Melee cheating. The first option started off bad, but ended up getting a rally near the end of the Power Hour, which lasted until about 3:00 AM. After 6:00 AM, the first option totally collapsed. That lasted until about 10:00 AM, when the first option started doing better again. And then, the rally kicks in after 12:45 PM and continues for several hours. The rally started dying off big time after 6:00 PM. Only the last hour of the poll appears to be similar to the hours near the beginning of the poll. The fifth option started dominating the poll after 6:00 AM and easily crushed the morning vote. It was after 10:00 AM that the fifth option dropped off. Once the rallying kicked in, the fifth option got crushed by the rallying even though its vote intake remained stable after the rallying started. The fifth option starts doing better once the rallying wore off. The third and fourth options also did well in the morning vote and collapsed after the rallying kicked in. The second option had a good night vote, but it wasn't really affected by the rallying since it was receiving a slight boost in votes from the rallying. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
The people that visit this site really don't like changes. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I am so sick of seeing hype for this move everywhere, yahoo, ebay, even weather.com (wtf?) and now Gamefaqs -_- and I still have zero interest in it. --- ... |
Need to see a poll like this for The Dark Knight Rises when it releases. I fell the percentages might be a little different. If we're not in a contest by then, o' course. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information |
I
voted for the last option in today's poll because I've never heard of
"The Hunger Games" before. Also, polls for the next 3 days: 3/25/2012 - Have you ever intentionally destroyed one of your video games? 3/26/2012 - Do video games help you to relax? 3/27/2012 - Got 3DS? I guess the 3DS poll wasn't really a surprise, since it's been one year after being released. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
We need to have another contest soon so Luster can have someone to talk to. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy III (Solo Run) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3470220 |
We
should not have a contest anytime soon. Last one was utter failure in
term of interest and participation. I think we should wait for two more
years or so, let people actually miss having these contests, and then
start a character battle, one-on-one, no weird s***t or anything just
like good old days. --- ... |
He doesn't seem to mind. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Who breaks their games?Some people! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Alea Malum |
No contest for two years, you crazy? The last one just sucked is all, we can do better this year. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
The longer we go without one, the more people actually would want
a contest. I would rather have a contest where people actually get
excited (not just Board 8) and fill brackets than one where it seems
like we are the only bunch that actually cares.. --- ... |
From: Boudii | #421 This guy might be right. After all, GotD was just 7 months after CB8 and we all know how that contest sucked right? Meanwhile, we had to wait a full year for the Rivalry Rumble, the best contest ever. And let's not forget about that full month that Allen gave us for bracket-making. The wait sure kept us hyped. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
This
guy might be right. After all, GotD was just 7 months after CB8 and we
all know how that contest sucked right? Meanwhile, we had to wait a full
year for the Rivalry Rumble, the best contest ever. And let's not
forget about that full month that Allen gave us for bracket-making. The
wait sure kept us hyped. um that's what I am saying Mr. smartass. We had too many contests already we exhausted all good ones that we had to settle for something like Rivalry Rumble. We should wait for a while, so people actually miss having a contest, shocking idea eh? although with how we are losing tons of traffic/users by the day, I am not sure if we will ever have a contest that generate votes/excitements like the ones from 2007/8 . --- ... |
The thing is there is no proof that a significant portion of the rest of the site would even miss contests. You're saying it as if that many people actually cared about contests even back then. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Contests,
awaiting the next contest, and you guys are the reason I stay at
GameFAQs...and awaiting the next contest's the worst part. Bring on a real contest that people actually want, please! --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
We had too many contests already we exhausted all good ones that we had to settle for something like Rivalry Rumble. No. There are still some good ideas we haven't done yet (Like that 1-on-1, no era division games contest.) Rivalry Rumble sucked because it was a bad idea and it probably shouldn't have happened even if we had exhausted all decent contest ideas. For that matters it's been over two years since the last real character battle ended. How much longer do you propose we wait? --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO SUPERNICEDOG NO PEACE] |
Based
on the ending poll, I'd be terrified trying to predict ME3 in a
contest. I feel like it can't be weaker than ME1 but unless Portal is
way way weaker than GotD implied there's no way I see ME3 overcoming
anti-votes to be that strong. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png TRUE B8UCA Lightweight Champion. WORSHIP ME! |
Boudii posted... The longer we go without one, the more people actually would want a contest. I would rather have a contest where people actually get excited (not just Board 8) and fill brackets than one where it seems like we are the only bunch that actually cares.. People still want contests. We just want formats that don't suck. The problem is that Bacon has the same mentality you have and thinks that people don't want straight up contests, so he feels the need to contrive some lame gimmick to "spice" it up and keep people interested. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... Based on the ending poll, I'd be terrified trying to predict ME3 in a contest. I feel like it can't be weaker than ME1 but unless Portal is way way weaker than GotD implied there's no way I see ME3 overcoming anti-votes to be that strong. I don't think Portal is a significant or insurmountable hurdle for ME3. The game gets 60/40'd by FFX. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
For that matters it's been over two years since the last real character battle ended. How much longer do you propose we wait? If I could see one in 3-12 months, I'd honestly be happy. I just missed (most of) Rivalry Rumble, but I'm sort of glad I missed it. Lame contest to watch other than the Trainers. --- WTH Duke; just, WTH |
Rivalry Rumble blowed. Give us a real contest. 1vs1. The biggest bracket ever created. --- GT: TriggerTRE / PSN: SolidTRE Life is short. Smile while you still have teeth! |
I have identified 4 waves of rallying in the ME3 ending poll. First wave of rallying: 12:26 AM to 2:41 AM Estimated number of rally votes: 500 Second wave of rallying: 4:57 AM to 5:27 AM Estimated number of rally votes: 80 Third wave of rallying: 10:49 AM to 11:14 AM Estimated number of rally votes: 120 Fourth wave of rallying: 12:44 PM to 8:00 PM Estimated number of rally votes: 9300 votes Poll updates for the ME3 ending poll: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdEM5MUk3eF8zTG5Ob1BUalNoLW5tRFE To make it easier to see the rallying in action, I included a "Votes Per Update" column and each wave of rallying is highlighted in light blue. In the fourth wave of rallying, it's hard to tell when the rally is finally dead. The rally was most powerful at the very beginning and slowly loses strength as time goes on. By 8:00 PM, I'd say the votes per update have completely returned to normal levels. Even as late as 7:00 PM, the votes per update were still above average for a poll that should have gotten about 46000 votes without the rallying. The best part is seeing a 675 vote update in the poll, which was more votes than the first 5 minutes of the poll. The last legitimate 675 vote update in a poll outside of the first 2 hours would be in the FFVII/OoT bonus match (a match with nearly 156000 votes). A few updates in the middle of the day in that match went above 700 votes per update. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
LeonhartFour posted... WarThaNemesis2 posted... Based on the ending poll, I'd be terrified trying to predict ME3 in a contest. I feel like it can't be weaker than ME1 but unless Portal is way way weaker than GotD implied there's no way I see ME3 overcoming anti-votes to be that strong. I don't think Portal is a significant or insurmountable hurdle for ME3. The game gets 60/40'd by FFX. It's not so much thinking Portal is a monster as I don't feel remotely safe taking ME3 over anything of actual strength given that probably around a quarter of the voters will be voting anything over it, votals are completely dreadful, and Bioware's forums care enough about our site to rally against ME3 in very significant numbers. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png TRUE B8UCA Lightweight Champion. WORSHIP ME! |
By doing a Google search, I found the following sites discussing the ME3 ending poll: http://my.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/r8kjx/gamefaqs_poll_of_the_day_is_about_the_mass_effect/ http://www.unikgamer.com/forums/mass-effect-3-2532-p19.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/03/21/did-the-real-mass-effect-3-ending-go-over-everyones-heads/ http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467495 http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Bobthecatlol/mass-effect-3-response-to-journalist-comments-224397.phtml It seems like the Reddit link appears to be the main source of the fourth wave of rallying in the poll. The Reddit topic was created at 12:51 PM, just a few minutes after the fourth wave of rallying started. There were also posts on the Mass Effect Facebook page and some tweets on Twitter about the poll. Combined with BioWare's forums, the rallying in the ME3 ending poll was a collective effort by multiple sites. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I
think you're looking at it the wrong way if you think this means ME3 is
greatly disliked and will get actively anti-voted because of the
ending. For one thing, Bioware has said they already plan to address it,
so it may be a temporary issue anyway. Second, most people I have seen
really like ME3 even with the ending. In fact, that's part of the reason
they're upset about the way it ended, because they really like the
game. Either way, I'd be kinda surprised if ME3 was weaker than the
original. The series wasn't even that popular until ME2 came along
anyway, so I don't think ME1 has some sort of latent advantage because
it came first or something. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Luster how do you think the rallying in that poll compares to the rallying contest matches have gotten? --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. http://oi44.tinypic.com/lfdsi.jpg |
As
far as I know, only 2 contest matches have gotten more than 10000 rally
votes. The L-Block semifinal match in 2007 and the L-Block final match
definitely had over 10000 rally votes. I've heard that the L-Block
final in 2007 had somewhere around 30000 rally votes from outside
GameFAQs. In more recent contests after 2007, the Battletoads match in BGE2009 had about 3500 rally votes from 4chan. The Crono/Missingno match had about 2700 rallied votes based on an estimate from red sox. And TF2/Fable had about 1171 rallied votes based on an estimate from red sox. Hitler's round 1 match in Rivalry Rumble only had around 1500 rally votes because of 4chan. 10000 rally votes is something that should be feared big time in any contest match. If a contest match would normally get about 50000 votes without rallying, adding in 10000 rally votes would be enough to change the winner in a 58-42 match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Imagine if the matches were 2 or 3 days like Gamespot.How much rally there would be? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Isn't this pretty impressive for a system that's only been out a year? --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. http://oi44.tinypic.com/lfdsi.jpg |
I would say it's impressive. 3DS ownership just increased from 33.55% to 34.89% in the past 3 months. Safer_777 | Posted 3/26/2012 1:49:21 PM | message detail | quote Imagine if the matches were 2 or 3 days like Gamespot.How much rally there would be? It would be easier to rally on the second or third day because there would be way less votes coming in after the first day. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
This f***ing poll. --- Current Let's Play: Legend of Mana http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3474994 |
I voted for the last option in today's poll. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I voted last as well I hate it when parents choose ridiculous names for their children as if it is a game completely oblivious to how important it will be for the kid especially in his/her middle school and high school days. --- ... |
Man
people are really aggresive.You know what?I hope both Microsoft and
Sony do the same,meaning no used games/backwards compatibility.I want
then to see what people will say when they buy the consoles! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Safer_777 posted... Man people are really aggresive.You know what?I hope both Microsoft and Sony do the same,meaning no used games/backwards compatibility.I want then to see what people will say when they buy the consoles! Honestly Sony/Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot is pretty much the best thing that could possibly happen to the Wii U. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png TRUE B8UCA Lightweight Champion. WORSHIP ME! |
From: Safer_777 | #444 Either another video game crash occurs or suddenly Nintendo's once again the gamer's console, which would be hilarious. --- Current Let's Play: Legend of Mana http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3474994 |
What are people's thoughts on having two matches held simultaneously in a contest? With any variation; either only for certain amounts of rounds, with 12-hour matches so that we can double the amount of entrants, or just to keep the same amount of entrants and preserve an entire full day contest, etc. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Prior
to the 2010 character battle, we've discussed the idea of having 2
matches running at the same time. This has also been discussed a long
time ago, like back in 2004 and 2005. During the days where we used to have 2 polls running at the same time (an extra poll along with a contest match), the poll that was on the bottom had lower vote totals than normal. We haven't had 2 polls running at the same time since 11/4/2008 (the last time it happened). Most of the time we had 2 polls at the same time, the extra poll was usually a sponsored poll (used for advertising purposes). Here is an example of 2 polls running at the same time: Top poll: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1585 Bottom poll: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1623 In that situation, the contest match was below the extra poll and that caused the top poll to get nearly as many votes as the contest match. BGE 2004 was the only contest where some of the contest matches were located below the extra poll. In every contest after BGE 2004, the contest match was always located above the extra poll. Running 2 matches at the same time would be a bad idea, because that will lower the vote totals of the bottom match. Vote totals already suck big time and they will get even worse by running 2 matches at the same time. If this ever happens, it should only be for round 1. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
pjbasis posted... What are people's thoughts on having two matches held simultaneously in a contest? With any variation; either only for certain amounts of rounds, with 12-hour matches so that we can double the amount of entrants, or just to keep the same amount of entrants and preserve an entire full day contest, etc. Don't like it, don't want it. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Only way for it to work is if you redesign the front page and are then able to post 2 polls side by side. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
