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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1043 [Skyrim > Zelda] [Skyrim best ever]

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#401 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/11/2012 12:16:14 AM | message detail
I doubt this is due to Skyrim domination.

Other games have dominated that poll just as badly.
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#402 | Yuri_LowelI | Posted 1/11/2012 12:31:26 AM | message detail
I'm sure we'd all rather see Zelda vs. Skyrim head to head


If you want to see zelda get destroyed sure.
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#403 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/11/2012 2:54:32 AM | message detail
Well, now I have nothing to do here.

Back to lurking and occasional posting until the next contest.
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#404 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 1/11/2012 4:22:04 AM | message detail
I wonder what SBA made of the poll Ng suggested.
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#405 | __Smurf__ | Posted 1/11/2012 4:22:29 AM | message detail
Monitor GOTY!

This series of GOTY polls has been one disappointment after another. Too many interesting polls and valid games cut, and we still get 3 days of Original/Download/Mobile polls.
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#406 | transcience | Posted 1/11/2012 4:25:33 AM | message detail
Skyrim was only a few votes away from doubling Skyward Sword. so close!
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#407 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/11/2012 10:35:17 AM | message detail
And Skyward Sword came very close to reaching 10000 votes, but fell just short there.
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#408 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/11/2012 2:45:43 PM | message detail
__Smurf__ | Posted 1/11/2012 7:22:29 AM | message detail | quote
Monitor GOTY!


Not sure why you said that.


Also, prizes should be announced sometime this week, because I got this message from last week:

Message From GameFAQs on 01/06/2012

Will put up full stats when the contest data gets finalized (next week)


I was asking about getting some stats for the final match of the contest.
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#409 | Ngamer64 | Posted 1/11/2012 4:08:15 PM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
I wonder what SBA made of the poll Ng suggested.

*checks*

Contrib Desc POTD Submission: What new Contest would you to see GameFAQs host in 2012?
Status Rejected
Status Detail Rejected for posting on GameFAQs
Submission ID 2364
Admin Notes Too_Narrow


Narrow? It covered Characters, Characters Minus Link, All Fictional Characters, Games, AND Systems. How much more broad could you get?!

He must have meant narrow in terms of "there wouldn't have been enough interest in this poll since 79% of the site hated my last Contest." Which is... pretty embarrassing, though accurate!
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#410 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/11/2012 4:32:43 PM | message detail
Bacon tends to reject a lot of poll ideas. I've had problems getting poll ideas accepted in the first place. I think I've probably made about 10 suggestions total and only had 2 of them get accepted. These are the ones I've had accepted so far:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4273
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4462

The first one had really good vote totals because it was near the beginning of 2011 when the average vote totals were over 60000 at the time. Not to mention it was a poll that would have brought in good vote totals.
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#411 | Ngamer64 | Posted 1/11/2012 4:49:46 PM | message detail
Speaking of SB, he seemed to take some of our suggestions regarding tightening up the GotY schedule, so I'll give him my suggestion for next year.

- do we REALLY need a separate poll for Best Mobile Game? considering it only got 16k votes, I'd say "no." let's continue to streamline by merging that with Handhelds

- very nice work with the Handhelds merge BTW, would have been awful to sit through DS/3DS/PSP/Vita polls this year/next year

- merging down to Best System Exclusive was a great idea, hope that continues going forward

- some people probably want to kill Best Original, but I still like it... worth losing one day to promote originality amidst a sea of sequels IMO!

- two days for Multi-Platform was great, but he needs to be willing to swap games around instead of just splitting alphabetically. Battlefield 3 losing votes to Modern Warfare was bad enough, but then he piled on Bulletstorm, Crysis, Deus Ex, AND Dead Space on top of that. ...and then Day 2 didn't have a single FPS. whereas D1 had zero fighters and then D2 was Mortal Kombat and MvC crippling each other with King of Fighter piling on. just swap MK with MW3 and we get much more accurate percentages from all 4 games!

- I'm fine with not having a GotY "Final" day with just 3 options, and am against the Multi-Platform Final day. instead of that I'd like to see...

* an 8 game mini-bracket featuring the winners of Portable/Original/DLC + the top two Exclusives and the top three Multiplatform. with 1v1 matches it would only take 7 days to run, meaning GotY polls overall would run for 15 days. Considering they ran for 14 days in 2009 and 16 days in 2010, that seems pretty reasonable!

+ (he'd just need to set the 2 Exclusives and 2 Multi-Platform that already played each other on opposite sides of the bracket to avoid one "repeat" day. though sometimes the 10way result between the two might have been close and making it a 1v1 instead could go either way, in which case even a repeat would be fine)

Now THAT would be something new to look forward to every year!
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#412 | HeroicGammaRay | Posted 1/11/2012 4:55:12 PM | message detail
goty polls should just be done by genre. going by platform is completely arbitrary when there's no similarity in how the various games play (not even platform! 'downloadable' and 'original' games get their own days for god knows what reason)
#413 | Ngamer64 | Posted 1/11/2012 5:01:39 PM | message detail
Based on my suggestion, our 2011 mini-bracket would have been

1. Skyrim
8. Bastion

4. Uncharted 3
5. Pokemon Black/White

3. Batman: Arkham City
6. Portal 2

2. Skyward Sword
7. L.A. Noire

(only things we'd have seen before would be SS/Uncharted and Skyrim/Portal; with this setup they couldn't happen again until the Finals)

That looks pretty fun from where I'm sitting! Except that Skyrim would have of course blown everyone out... but imagine how great it could be next year, if there's no runaway GotY favorite by December!
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#414 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/11/2012 6:35:04 PM | message detail
"Too narrow" is Bacon's response for not using a poll when he just doesn't want to use it.

I've had that one several times.
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#415 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/11/2012 6:36:15 PM | message detail
I've had "Too_Broad" before on some of my suggestions. Sometimes, I've had poll suggestions that are rejected without Bacon providing a reason.
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#416 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/11/2012 9:43:45 PM | message detail
I just got internet connection in my new place and don't feel like reading through 9 pages of likely pointless discussion. Anything important happen in this topic that I should be aware of?
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#417 | pjbasis | Posted 1/11/2012 9:44:30 PM | message detail
Nope.

Though Skyrim would be a very interesting entrant in a new games contest.
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#418 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 1/11/2012 9:46:57 PM | message detail
Eh, I can't see Skyrim being much better than Oblivion by the time we get another game contest. It's very much the product of hype and won't be nearly as impressive next year.
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#419 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/11/2012 10:16:44 PM | message detail
Given that Skyward Sword was extremely well-received and did worse compared to Skyrim post-release than pre-release, I don't see how that shows Skyrim being a result of hype.
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#420 | pjbasis | Posted 1/11/2012 10:39:45 PM | message detail
I can easily see Skyrim being above Wind Waker.
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#421 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/12/2012 4:12:20 AM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #416
I just got internet connection in my new place and don't feel like reading through 9 pages of likely pointless discussion. Anything important happen in this topic that I should be aware of?


Skyrim's going to beat FF7 in the next games contest, and that's pretty much it.
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#422 | HaRRicH | Posted 1/12/2012 4:54:20 AM | message detail
It's hard to say Skyrim's not going to last, considering it's probably the game with the most replay value this year. Besides that, it was the most hyped game this holiday season pre-release and doubled the competition post-release despite this being a great year for games. It's been well-received practically everywhere with some rumblings about it being among the best games ever, and it's an RPG on GameFAQs to boot. Don't let it being a WRPG fool you -- ME2 won last year's GotY easily and we saw FO3 end up doing surprisingly well on SSBB. It even broke mainline-LoZ's undefeated streak during a fantastic year for the series.

Skyrim's legit. I don't know about it being the strongest game of the generation necessarily, but it's a contender and will remain one.
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#423 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/12/2012 6:18:07 AM | message detail
To be honest, one could very well say that GameFAQs has taken a while to light up to just about every console Zelda game except for Twilight Princess, and that one was practically "what the fans demanded".
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#424 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/12/2012 6:19:27 AM | message detail
Skyrim being the top game of the generation is difficult to find fault with at the moment because it's either Skyrim or Brawl, and every point except 'Skyrim doesn't have Link' and 'lol Western games' heavily favors Skyrim.
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#425 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/12/2012 6:36:18 AM | message detail
Or maybe Skyward Sword and Arkham City are just really that weak?
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#426 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/12/2012 6:42:46 AM | message detail | (edited)
If Skyward Sword is just damn crap, then the Wii is in full 'so bad that no game of quality can even be worth a vague damn' mode, which is a huge, huge point in Skyrim's favor. Nintendo being irrelevant is not a good thing for Brawl!
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#427 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 1/12/2012 7:08:57 AM | message detail | (edited)
There's a floor to how weak decently/well received main entries to non-fodder franchises like Portal, Uncharted, Batman/Arkham and Zelda can be. That floor is sufficiently high that Skyrim is, at worst, very strong.
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#428 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2012 6:42:53 AM | message detail
Need to catch up with this topic.

From: Lightning Strikes | #117
Just for the record, Fallout 3>any Elder Scrolls game. In story as well as gameplay, as badly as that story ends.

But yeah, if you don't like sandbox games (and/or oldschool dungeon crawlers) you won't like Skyrim.

And frankly, I don't see why simply having a sandbox means you can't do core experiences well. Plenty of games do both, why can't TES?


Haters

gon

f***in

hate
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#429 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2012 6:44:04 AM | message detail
yoblazer, your issue is the same thing every TES newbie has an issue with: STOP PICKING EVERYTHING UP.
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#430 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2012 6:49:38 AM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #255
You are always massively wrong. Please cease embarassing yourself.

The third highest reviewed game of all time


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#431 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 1/12/2012 7:00:55 AM | message detail
Anyway so yeah, it's hilarious people actually made excuses for SS during that BEAT-EM-DOWN, but what else can you expect on Nintendo 8?

SS might be a fine game for all I know, but Skyrim is assuredly better, more popular and stronger in a contest. Deal with it.
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#432 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/12/2012 7:43:13 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #431
SS might be a fine game for all I know, but Skyrim is assuredly better, more popular and stronger in a contest. Deal with it.


SS isn't that great but yeah Skyrim destroys it.
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#433 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 1/12/2012 8:47:38 AM | message detail
I am sure that most Zelda drones wouldn't able to vote in the poll,that is why when they came again and see the results whine...
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#434 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/12/2012 10:00:07 AM | message detail | (edited)
Adding up vgchartz's sales for the PC, 360, and PS3 versions of Skyrim means it's already pretty close to FFVII's sales. (9.57 million vs. 9.72 million) Once it clears that, I think it'll be the best selling RPG that does not have Pokemon in the title of all time.

...And Skyrim's sales in Japan are negligible so more of that than usual is coming from the west.

I would not be surprised at all if we have a new elite game.
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#435 | Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 1/12/2012 12:11:52 PM | message detail
BUT don't forget that it doesn't have a main character so it can't be so strong I believe.Also best selling WRPG then?Nice.
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#436 | GranzonEx | Posted 1/12/2012 12:14:33 PM | message detail
Sales numbers don't mean anything on this site unless the game sold less than 10k. This place is powered by nostalgia.
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#437 | wg64Z | Posted 1/12/2012 12:32:07 PM | message detail
Adding up vgchartz's sales for the PC, 360, and PS3 versions of Skyrim means it's already pretty close to FFVII's sales. (9.57 million vs. 9.72 million) Once it clears that, I think it'll be the best selling RPG that does not have Pokemon in the title of all time.

Uh...wut?

Warcraft?
#438 | ZFS | Posted 1/12/2012 12:34:39 PM | message detail
Skyrim will likely outsell WoW in the following year.
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#439 | Achromatic | Posted 1/12/2012 12:47:18 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #438
Skyrim will likely outsell WoW in the following year.


Uh, no.
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#440 | ZFS | Posted 1/12/2012 12:54:07 PM | message detail
How much do you think WoW has sold, exactly? It's not much higher than Skyrim is now. The next time you hear Bethesda mention its sales it'll be past the 15 million mark.
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#441 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/12/2012 12:57:11 PM | message detail
Hi Ulti. You realise I said that because LMS was talking about what reviewers think, right?

And it's not a matter of haters hatin'. Skyrim is a great game. But it's frankly lacking compared to what it could be. There are a lot of areas it just doesn't do particularly well. It does an amazing job at creating an immersive world, but does a poor job of a lot of other things, including creating a good main experience. And the reason this stops it from being the best game ever is simple. There are huge open world RPGs that have more content than Skyrim but also manage to have important things like robust main quests, compelling narratives, a memorable cast of characters... There was even one released in the last year.

http://allrpg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/xenoblade-artwork-2.jpeg

GOTY 2011, ladies and gentlemen.

Anyway, contest related. Even if SS and Batman WERE really weak (and they're not) 43% is flat-out incredible. It's better than TP and RE4 did, and I don't think anybody will argue that Skyrim's competition was weaker than that of either of those. Hell, take out Pokémon and SS breaks 30%, a lot better than some winners.

Thing is, we've seen games that are known to be very strong do worse than Skyrim with garbage competition. Nobody here would take Gears of War over even SFF'd SS. Skyrim's floor is TP, let's put it that way. That's already around top 10 game on the site.
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#442 | JJH777 | Posted 1/12/2012 2:00:34 PM | message detail | (edited)

From: ZFS | #440
How much do you think WoW has sold, exactly? It's not much higher than Skyrim is now. The next time you hear Bethesda mention its sales it'll be past the 15 million mark.


Judging by the fact there was once 11 million active players I'd be shocked if it hadn't sold at least twice that. How many people do you really think keep playing it for more than a few months after buying it? I'd be shocked if it was more than half.
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#443 | GintokiSaotome | Posted 1/12/2012 2:53:50 PM | message detail | (edited)
WoW probably has at least 25 million sales itself, and almost 50 million if you count its expansions. Don't forget that many Chinese farmers get banned over and over again and need to buy new copies to play again, so that artificially raises its sales too.
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#444 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/12/2012 3:14:07 PM | message detail
Ha, yeah, I forgot about WoW. Whoops.
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#445 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/12/2012 9:01:38 PM | message detail
#446 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/12/2012 9:02:23 PM | message detail
Loopy or Pippin should be winning.
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#447 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/12/2012 9:36:34 PM | message detail
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#448 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 1/13/2012 5:00:58 AM | message detail
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#449 | HeroicGammaRay | Posted 1/13/2012 7:41:10 AM | message detail
i would put 'xbox' on here honestly
#450 | pjbasis | Posted 1/13/2012 8:33:16 AM | message detail
I would put Playstation on here honestly.
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