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#351 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/10/2012 9:09:05 AM | message detail
transcience posted...
LMS is posting but I don't think anyone has read a word
I read LMS's posts. Now I hate myself and want to die. LMS, if you are reading this, please take people's criticisms of you to heart. They exist for a reason. I normally hate it when people get harassed on here... But you deserve it, and I think you need to think about why that is.

But yeah, Skyrim. I assure you, Skyrim's performance here is 100% legit. Its performance is as good as TP's in 2006, and I think we can all agree that even SFF'd SS would trash FFXII, and Batman would beat it as well.

TP is kind of a monster, and I'd take Skyrim over it based on this. I'd take it over FFX too because of that. Brawl not so sure, but maybe.
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#352 | GintokiSaotome | Posted 1/10/2012 9:11:24 AM | message detail
Talking about Twilight Princess' GotY polls..

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2629

Its amazing how far the Elder Scrolls series has come in 5 years.
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#353 | transcience | Posted 1/10/2012 9:13:50 AM | message detail
Elder Scrolls/Street Fighter would still be a 65/35 match, and there would still be a crapload of whining.

it'd just be of the "sf lost?!" variety this time.
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#354 | GranzonEx | Posted 1/10/2012 9:16:50 AM | message detail
TP is a monster, but it would get smashed by FFX. It takes a special kind of monster to beat things on FFX tier. Skyrim in hype mode can do it.
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#355 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/10/2012 9:22:41 AM | message detail
GintokiSaotome posted...
Talking about Twilight Princess' GotY polls..

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2629

Its amazing how far the Elder Scrolls series has come in 5 years.


It gets better.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2626

Yes, that's Oblivion getting killed by Gears of War. Speaking of which, I really don't know why Oblivion was in both the PC and the 360 polls that year rather than the multiplatform poll. It probably would have won that one given how hilariously weak it was. Lego Star Wars won! Very easily!

And yeah, FFX is stellar, but based on (non-Brawl) performances last year... I'd take TP. Hard to say, but I think 69% on Dragon Age beats 71% on Borderlands.
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#356 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/10/2012 9:56:35 AM | message detail
LMS actually almost got annoying for a second, but then he made a surprise turn toward hilariously unaware.

Whether he's an amazingly elaborate troll or just an overeager kid more passionate about gaming culture than about gaming itself, either way he's the gift that keeps on giving.
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#357 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 1/10/2012 10:01:23 AM | message detail | (edited)
I think the TP/FFX comparisons lean slightly towards FFX. Primarily 56.6% on RE4 vs. 57.1% on KHII. RE4 was able to beat KHII twice in 4-ways, where it would seem KH is a stronger force.

It wouldn't surprise me if any match between MM, FFX, Brawl, Melee and TP went any way. I could even see TP turning that defeat to Brawl around.
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#358 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/10/2012 10:05:53 AM | message detail

From: GranzonEx | #354
TP is a monster, but it would get smashed by FFX. It takes a special kind of monster to beat things on FFX tier. Skyrim in hype mode can do it.


TP is not a monster.. Wouldn't even be top 10 on this site. FFX? barring ridiculous zelda ralllying yeah FFx is up there.


From: GintokiSaotome | #352
Talking about Twilight Princess' GotY polls..

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2629

Its amazing how far the Elder Scrolls series has come in 5 years.


The single biggest reason it's bigger now is due to the 360, which is far more popular than original xbox.

Lets be honest here, if Skyrim only comes out on PC and PS3 it doesn't win GOTY. If it only came out on 360 it probably still wins GOTY.
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#359 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/10/2012 10:11:18 AM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #357
I think the TP/FFX comparisons lean slightly towards FFX. Primarily 56.6% on RE4 vs. 57.1% on KHII. RE4 was able to beat KHII twice in 4-ways, where it would seem KH is a stronger force.

It wouldn't surprise me if any match between MM, FFX, Brawl, Melee and TP went any way. I could even see TP turning that defeat to Brawl around.




I don't know. TP / MM would be a comfortable win for MM. But the rest yeah would be close.
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#360 | foxhead84 | Posted 1/10/2012 10:39:55 AM | message detail
The_Djoker posted...
Lets be honest here, if Skyrim only comes out on PC and PS3 it doesn't win GOTY. If it only came out on 360 it probably still wins GOTY.

How can this be true after yesterday's poll?
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#361 | GintokiSaotome | Posted 1/10/2012 10:45:59 AM | message detail
Top 10 Games
01 Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim X360
02 Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PC
03 Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PS3
04 Star Wars: The Old Republic PC
05 Zelda: Skyward Sword WII

I think Skyrim would be okay without the 360 version.
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#362 | The Mana Sword | Posted 1/10/2012 11:09:27 AM | message detail
Sounds like a fix for the PS3 version of Skyrim should be coming this month.
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#363 | GintokiSaotome | Posted 1/10/2012 11:11:57 AM | message detail
The Mana Sword posted...
Sounds like a fix for the PS3 version of Skyrim should be coming this month.

I'm hoping. I got PS3 version since I just bought a PS3 beforehand (that was a mistake), and I stopped playing at a little over 100 hours since the lag eventually got too crazy to handle. Hopefully that patch actually fixes unlike the previous patches.
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#364 | GaryOak151 | Posted 1/10/2012 11:15:11 AM | message detail
Oblivion came out for the 360...
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#365 | The Mana Sword | Posted 1/10/2012 11:17:59 AM | message detail
Whoops, posted that in the wrong topic, but I guess it works here too.
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#366 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/10/2012 11:40:38 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/10/2012 9:37:52 AM | message detail | quote
That's just first party software though. If you did a poll asking which of the three main consoles had the best first party games, the Wii would win. Very easily. The reason it does so badly in polls like this is due to other factors, such as the lack of multiplatform games.


The GameCube had the same problem with multiplatform games and it was never embarrassed in a System of the Year poll like the Wii has for the past 3 years. Yeah, the GameCube was always defeated by the PS2 every single time in System of the Year, but it never got less than 15% until the GotY 2005 polls (by then, Nintendo had announced their next console).

There's obviously more to the Wii sucking on GameFAQs than just the lack of multiplatform games.

__Smurf__ | Posted 1/10/2012 9:44:59 AM | message detail | quote | (edited)
Also not buying the "late in the Wii's cycle" business either, seems like another cop-out to hide from the truth of SS being less well received than previous Zeldas. Practically everyone on GameFAQs has a Wii and would walk over hot coals for a new Zelda game for gods sake.


The Wii might have almost 70% ownership on this site, but most of this site has given up on the Wii so much that they are so busy playing games on the PC, PS3, or 360 to pick up the latest Zelda game and get their Wii hooked up (if it isn't already hooked up).
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#367 | pjbasis | Posted 1/10/2012 2:28:31 PM | message detail
What is this notion about your console being hooked up or not hooked up being some sort of indication of how much you play it?

I set up all my consoles on different TVs around the house all the time or based on what games I'm playing!
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#368 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/10/2012 2:38:19 PM | message detail
This is much worse than I expected from Zelda. It would need the performance of its life to reach even 40% on Skyrim in a final 3way. I'm still convinced that Zelda has some real power. Just throwing a blind dart out there, I'd say that this comfortable win over Batman puts it around Fallout 3's level. That's not terrible, but it does paint a very clear picture about TES's strength.

Right now, this game is a monster. You'd be hard pressed to argue against it competing with the Melee/Brawl/FFX/TP tier, if not outperforming them all. The question is if it can carry this same GotY strength into a contest and whether it will lose some of its pop over time.
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#369 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 1/10/2012 2:45:38 PM | message detail
Depends when the next Games Contest is, I'd suggest. If we get one in the next six months it's not likely to have dropped much. If we're well into next gen hype by then I think Skyrim's status might have worn away a bit.

On a side note, the faster we have a proper contest to wash away the revolting aftertaste of the Rivalry Rumble, the better.
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#370 | whatisurnameplz | Posted 1/10/2012 2:53:23 PM | message detail

From: transcience | #331
LMS is posting but I don't think anyone has read a word


He's the only person on my ignore list.

And SS will be a lot like Majora's Mask where it won't be as popular at first but will get more popular over time. Just compare these two polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1225
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4188
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#371 | pjbasis | Posted 1/10/2012 2:56:58 PM | message detail
Ocarina of Time is also the worst opponent for MM.
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#372 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/10/2012 2:57:35 PM | message detail

From: foxhead84 | #360
How can this be true after yesterday's poll?


What do you mean? What does PS3 being the best system have anything to do with Skyrim?

Ok maybe it wouldn't lose GOTY, but if you did a poll which system you play Skyrim on then 360 would win(on this site). The 360 boards are more popular too way more than PS3. The sales are also bigger on 360.

If you take Skyrim away from 360 it has a bigger effect than taking away say the PS3 or PC version. That's my point. It wasn't a factual statement just one that could happen. There are more 360 Skyrim players on this site.


Oblivion came out for the 360...

When it was a launch console hardly anyone owned.
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#373 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/10/2012 3:00:22 PM | message detail
Oblivion was a very slow-burn kinda release , which explains the beatdown Street Fighter gave TES in 2006. I bet TES would have done better in a 2009 rematch poll (after SFIV and before Skyrim was even announced) simply because of how much Oblivion's popularity grew in those years. In 2006, it was pwned by Gears of War lol
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#374 | whatisurnameplz | Posted 1/10/2012 3:02:18 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #371
Ocarina of Time is also the worst opponent for MM.


But even then MM got 40% on it in the finals of the IGN Zelda tournament.
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#375 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/10/2012 3:03:22 PM | message detail | (edited)

From: PartOfYourWorld | #368
This is much worse than I expected from Zelda. It would need the performance of its life to reach even 40% on Skyrim in a final 3way. I'm still convinced that Zelda has some real power. Just throwing a blind dart out there, I'd say that this comfortable win over Batman puts it around Fallout 3's level. That's not terrible, but it does paint a very clear picture about TES's strength.

Right now, this game is a monster. You'd be hard pressed to argue against it competing with the Melee/Brawl/FFX/TP tier, if not outperforming them all. The question is if it can carry this same GotY strength into a contest and whether it will lose some of its pop over time.


Even if it does it's still going to be stronger than FO3. Also again...tP isn't on the FFX level. I don';t know why people think TP is some elite tier game. It's probably weaker now than it was last year.

From: pjbasis | #371
Ocarina of Time is also the worst opponent for MM.


Just about everything would look bad against OoT.

But even then MM got 40% on it in the finals of the IGN Zelda tournament.

That's IGN.
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#376 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/10/2012 3:03:42 PM | message detail

From: The_Djoker | #375
I don';t know why people think TP is some elite tier game.


Probably because it's performed like one for the most part.

Depending on your definition of "elite," I guess.
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#377 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/10/2012 3:07:20 PM | message detail

From: The_Djoker | #375
tP isn't on the FFX level. I don';t know why people think TP is some elite tier game.


Because a lot of people think that 57% on KHII and 57% on RE4 are comparable performances. There's no reason to think that FFX and TP aren't close in strength. In a match tomorrow, I'm sure most people here would take FFX at night and TP in the day. That means they're really close.
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#378 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/10/2012 3:07:23 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #376
Probably because it's performed like one for the most part.

Depending on your definition of "elite," I guess.


Well if we put Brawl/Melee and FFX on the same level(which they are) TP has to be below that. And if we include TP then Fallout 3 is on that level too. If Brawl did get Backlash then TP didn't do that well on it. I'd say Brawl/Melee/MM and FFX were the strongest games of the last contest. TP would lose to all those games 1v1.

Of course Brawl might have sunk really low we don't know.
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#379 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/10/2012 3:08:19 PM | message detail | (edited)
TP being a little weaker than FFX, Majora, and Melee/Brawl isn't "non-elite."
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#380 | The_Djoker | Posted 1/10/2012 3:20:15 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #379
TP being a little weaker than FFX, Majora, and Melee/Brawl isn't "non-elite."




The only games i'd consider "elite" from last year would be MM FFX and Melee/Brawl. I can't put TP on that sorry.

Because a lot of people think that 57% on KHII and 57% on RE4 are comparable performances.

Except they're not. 57% on RE4 at night vs 57% on KH2 during the day.

Also i'm using pure % here. Melee and Brawl was 1000 votes, FFX/MM was 200 though would be around 800 without rallying. and Brawl/FFX would be under 1000 too. TP got beat by Brawl by a good 3000 despite Brawl Backlash and SFF factor.

Maybe it's just be being biased against TP. I thought it was the worst 3D zelda after all.
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#381 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/10/2012 4:10:27 PM | message detail
Of course it's just you being biased against TP.

It routinely looked equal to FFX and put up an extremely respectable performance against Brawl despite SFF (and the absence of a bandwagon). It looked like an absolute monster in 2010. How is that not elite?
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#382 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/10/2012 4:59:35 PM | message detail

From: The_Djoker | #380
Maybe it's just be being biased against TP.


Oh good, I'm glad you said it so someone else didn't have to.
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#383 | GuessMyUserName | Posted 1/10/2012 5:46:26 PM | message detail

From: The_Djoker | Posted: 1/10/2012 6:20:15 PM | #380
The only games i'd consider "elite" from last year would be MM FFX and Melee/Brawl. I can't put TP on that sorry.


why

Maybe it's just be being biased against TP. I thought it was the worst 3D zelda after all.


oh, right
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#384 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/10/2012 6:16:38 PM | message detail
It could be worse. He could be biased against Brawl.
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#385 | GintokiSaotome | Posted 1/10/2012 7:18:47 PM | message detail
Bacon has streamlined some of the stuff this year with the GotY, so I hope he goes all the way and makes it a 1v1 final match. Batman isn't gonna be competing, and I'm sure we'd all rather see Zelda vs. Skyrim head to head.
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#386 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/10/2012 7:28:37 PM | message detail
This year, we will only be spending 11 days on the GotY polls, compared to 16 days last year. So although it's a good improvement, I would have preferred to see 9 or 10 games in today's poll instead of 7.
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#387 | red sox 777 | Posted 1/10/2012 7:31:58 PM | message detail
If we use the same standards for elite with games as we traditionally have for characters (Noble Nine), then elite would mean roughly top 10. So, TP probably wouldn't be elite under those standards.
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#388 | GintokiSaotome | Posted 1/10/2012 9:01:21 PM | message detail
#389 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 1/10/2012 9:02:06 PM | message detail
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#390 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 1/10/2012 9:03:26 PM | message detail
I guess it's a bit too streamlined now. Maybe he didn't think it was necessary due to Skyrim's large lead.
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#391 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/10/2012 9:03:45 PM | message detail
I guess it was clear enough how a final poll would go that Bacon decided to not bother with a Top 3 poll. Not a terrible idea since the top 3 in last poll had like 85% on the votes.
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#392 | Articuno2001 | Posted 1/10/2012 9:05:22 PM | message detail | (edited)
"I've printed out at least huge FAQ" nice proofreading there, SBAllen
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#393 | GintokiSaotome | Posted 1/10/2012 9:04:35 PM | message detail
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#394 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/10/2012 9:04:37 PM | message detail
We've officially hit the dead zone and will only be lulled out of sleep by contest news or E3, whichever happens first. Hopefully 2012 treats us better.
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#395 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/10/2012 9:04:45 PM | message detail
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"I've printed out at least good FAQ" nice proofreading there, SBAllen


Blame the user that submitted the poll for making that mistake.
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#396 | red sox 777 | Posted 1/10/2012 9:05:36 PM | message detail
No final GOTY poll? Bacon wants to save Skyrim > SS for the next contest?
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#397 | ZFS | Posted 1/10/2012 9:06:15 PM | message detail
Skyrim dominated so much that another run wasn't even necessary, it looks like!

What a follow up poll.
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#398 | Eternal_Debate | Posted 1/10/2012 9:35:39 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/contribute/submit_potd.php

Says there that what you submit will most likely be edited, so yeah, blame Allen for the mistake.

Skyrim would've won pretty easily anyway.
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#399 | LeonhartFour | Posted 1/10/2012 11:09:04 PM | message detail
Yeah, most poll options get edited before Bacon puts them up.
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#400 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/10/2012 11:53:15 PM | message detail
I probably expect a lot of user submitted polls for the next few days because of all the poll submissions during the contest.
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