GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1043 [Skyrim > Zelda] [Skyrim best ever]
FO3 vs Brawl in GotD still doesn't make sense though. You don't pull that off after struggling with Metroid Prime. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
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Arrow to the knee is fad alert. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Falcon Punch is a fad, but Melee and Brawl aren't. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
So is Portal weak because of its fads? --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
By
its nature of being a single-player RPG, Skyrim will stick with people
far longer than something like Call of Duty. I wouldn't be concerned
about its strength months from now, because people will always have fond
memories of the game. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
Oh whoops, I forgot I said Skyrim would be weak. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
I really want Batman to beat Zelda. That would be the greatest. --- Official Iron Man of C&GN "I use hand grenades for the Piccaso look." - Kroguys on home decoration in Fallout 3 |
I'd
still have trouble not taking SS in an actual match with a good pic.
Just remember Dissidia vs CoD. That was a bit of an extreme pic
advantage probably more so than this pic would be but still goty polls
don't matter. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis Congratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. |
Zelda could get doubled (currently hanging on to 33.7%). Welp. Also Wind Waker is an entrant (a bit like Majora's Mask pre-2010!) that's been screwed every contest its been in. In 04 it got Starcraft'd, in 09 it got SFF'd by Melee, in 10 it ran into Majora's Mask. Despite probably being SFF'd a bit, it still did better than MGS3. --- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. |
I'd still have trouble not taking SS in an actual match with a good pic. Over skyrim??? Youre really grasping for straws. Pathetic. Skyrim is better and more popular than ss. Deal with it. Also to the guy who said fo3 coming close to brawl makes no sense....it makes perfect sense. Metroid prime is legit. --- BRAVE VESPERIA! |
True/False: OOT/Skyrim is closer than Skyrim/SS. --- False obviously. Oot is still on a another level. Skyrim would do well to even avoid doubling. Skyrim however might become the strongest game of of the current century. It would still lose to some 90's games though --- BRAVE VESPERIA! |
no, I meant Oblivion could take Skyward Sword. actually, I think they'd be about equal. if SS bests WW and Skyrim gets 60%+ on SS, then Skyrim is an absolute monster. FFX couldn't get 60% on Wind Waker. nor could Majora's Mask. nor could Twilight Princess pre-SFF. maybe I'm taking a GOTY poll too seriously but I don't see why Skyward Sword would be strong when its best performance is 55%ish against Arkham City. Wind Waker has a way higher playrate and is on a platform the site at least kind of likes. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Skyrim > FF7 This must happen. --- Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Guru for a Super Bad Contest! |
Imagine if instead of Rivalry Contest we had BGE contest.Skyrim would rock! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Lightning Strikes posted... Dear god LMS. You are massively wrong. You are always massively wrong. Please cease embarassing yourself. I mean what the hell is this: LinkMarioSamus posted... Ye gods, what happened to Nintendo after 2003? Also, most professional critics probably don't consider there to have been a Wii game that's "really good" since Super Mario Galaxy, so ouch. The third highest reviewed game of all time came from Nintendo after SMG. http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/960551-super-mario-galaxy-2/index.html And here's two 2011 Nintendo offerings: http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/960633-the-legend-of-zelda-skyward-sword/index.html http://www.gamerankings.com/wii/960564-xenoblade-chronicles/index.html The latter being the highest reviewed JRPG ever made. I could go on about how wrong you are about reviewers and Nintendo games (for instance, KEY is the highest reviewed Kirby) but I won't. I don't want to give you the satisfaction on the chance that you are in fact the most elaborate, greatest troll the board has ever seen. Like I said, I just suddenly got a lot of nostalgia for the GameCube era out of nowhere. Also, Nintendo nowadays is just rehashing Mario, while nothing else compares to earlier standards (though the only Nintendo series I give a darn about right now are Mario platformers, Mario RPGs, Legend of Zelda, and Metroid). However, as for SMG2, yes, that game has a high Gamerankings score, but I don't give a darn about that and it's clear that no one else does. Just for reference, Galaxy 1 was pretty much the consensus choice for best Wii game of 2007, while in 2010: GameSpy's Best Wii Game Award: Kirby's Epic Yarn Game Informer's Best Wii Game Award: Donkey Kong Country Returns It probably doesn't help that I'm following a YouTube user who considers SMG2 to be a mere cash-in (despite SMG1 being his favorite Mario game and one of his favorite games of all time), but still. Also, for all its critical acclaim, SMG2 won very few GOTY awards. I'm sure SMG1 may have won twice as many. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Skyrim would get smashed by the serious games, its competition is deceptively weak here. --- Smurf The cream of Sonic Fanboyism. I liked smurf until he declared me worst user on board 8 - the jp |
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Oh
my god LMS you actually wrote that. That is complete logical junk. Just
because two sites preferred other games doesn't mean nobody liked SMG2.
That goes for GotY awards in general. And how do you go from saying
"reviewers think X..." then saying that it doesn't matter what reviewers
think? You just completely contradicted yourself! And for god's sake, stop. Form your own opinions, please. Please stop reading all this trash and watching these youtube videos if they're just going to sap what little independence you already had. BK_Sheikah00 posted... FO3 vs Brawl in GotD still doesn't make sense though. You don't pull that off after struggling with Metroid Prime. Metroid Prime is strong. It looked great in the 2004 BGE, and really the only thing suggesting that it ISN'T that strong is the SFF-fest it encountered in 2009. And to that I say... lol 4-ways. Anyway, Skyward Sword invariably looks better one-on-one. Just look at last year's polls and it's pretty clear how tomorrow will turn out. And could Oblivion beat Skyward Sword? No way. This is all Skyrim. But could Fallout 3 beat Skyward Sword? Perhaps. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
has LMS even played any of the Mario Galaxy games Galaxy 2 absolutely destroys Galaxy 1 - farrrrrr superior game. Definitely trumps it in level design (especialllllyy for 2D levels), obviously trumps it in powerups, it actually has a unique 120 Bonus Stars instead of just replaying the game as Luigi, and it has the god damn Yoshi. also how do you have nostalgia for the gamecube era haven't you just started playing video games this generation --- http://www.freewebs.com/guessmyusername/CD1_joohee0924.gif |
While we're at it, of course you're going to have more nostalgia for things that happened in the past! That's how nostalgia works! You can't have nostalgia for something happening right now, can you? --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
JJH777 posted... I'd still have trouble not taking SS in an actual match with a good pic. Just remember Dissidia vs CoD. That was a bit of an extreme pic advantage probably more so than this pic would be but still goty polls don't matter. That was a different circumstance; CoD became radically more hated after 2009's GotY-polls -- in fact, you could see it starting to lose its ground in the middle of the GotY-poll once the site saw it was the front-runner (the first time a blockbuster-FPS ever did so here): http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3726 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3727 Pic might have helped, too, but you can see CoD:MW1 flopping elsewhere in the GotD-contest as well. The series wasn't ever the same once it hit it big here. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
Nintendofear is so widespread that even a doubling doesn't convince people it's weaker. you guys!!!!!!!! Skyward Sword's at 56% on Batman. Wind Waker was at 56% on Oblivion. SS's being held down by Pokemon a little (though Pokemon's under 10%) but WW vs. SS is almost like Oblivion vs. Batman in a way. I'm curious to see how the final goes. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
GuessMyUserName posted... has LMS even played any of the Mario Galaxy games Galaxy 2 absolutely destroys Galaxy 1 - farrrrrr superior game. Definitely trumps it in level design (especialllllyy for 2D levels), obviously trumps it in powerups, it actually has a unique 120 Bonus Stars instead of just replaying the game as Luigi, and it has the god damn Yoshi. also how do you have nostalgia for the gamecube era haven't you just started playing video games this generation I've watched YouTube LPs of them both in the past few months and while I'm withholding full judgement, suffice to say Galaxy 1 is definitely not far inferior to its sequel. I honestly remember liking both games about equally. I only started "hardcore gaming" in 2008, yes, but beforehand I built up many strong memories of visiting peoples' homes and watching their gaming in the late '90s and early '00s (and I got a GameCube myself in Summer 2002), and those memories were arguably the biggest influence behind me getting into "hardcore" gaming and coming to these forums. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
god damn watching Let's Plays of people playing Mario Galaxy is not the same as actually playing it. especially with Mario games, which are all entirely about gameplay. where the heck do you get this crazy idea that watching people play games means is anything like playing video ga- From: LinkMarioSamus | Posted: 1/10/2012 8:58:11 AM | #323 rahhhhhh *punches a wall* --- http://gamercards.exophase.com/54552.png |
Hence why I said I'm withholding full judgement on the matter - because watching is not completely the same as playing. That said though, I have seen that SMG2 is not at all so superior to SMG1, and that WW is no death of Nintendo. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
oh you guys --- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker |
Pretty typical of this place that Skyward getting pounded must
be down to Skyrim being beastly rather than just accepting the obvious
conclusion. Yes SS would lose to all of Wind Waker, Fallout 3 and
Oblivion. Sheesh. Also not buying the "late in the Wii's cycle" business either, seems like another cop-out to hide from the truth of SS being less well received than previous Zeldas. Practically everyone on GameFAQs has a Wii and would walk over hot coals for a new Zelda game for gods sake. --- (\__/) Meet Ziggy,the Evil Bunny who wants to take over the world and eat the flesh of the weak. (='.'=] Put Ziggy in your sig to support his cause. |
LinkMarioSamus posted... Hence why I said I'm withholding full judgement on the matter - because watching is not completely the same as playing. That said though, I have seen that SMG2 is not at all so superior to SMG1, and that WW is no death of Nintendo. Okay, so ignoring how terrible you are with the gaming obsession despite not actually playing games, first, yes, SMG2 is quite a bit better than SMG. It's SMG with about twice as much content, even more variety and the worst parts (mantasssss) removed. How is that not much better? The only reason it didn't receive quite as much acclaim as the original is because the original is... the original. Coming first has its advantages, and pretty much the number one reason SMG2 was only third for GotY awards that year despite being easily the best reviewed game is that it was effectively a level pack. The best level pack ever, no doubt, but still. But the most important thing: I hope you realise that nobody but Ulti actually thinks that Wind Waker killed Nintendo. If anything, let's not kid ourselves, Nintendo's software output has improved massively over the last decade. I mean, you posted that ridiculous list, but asides from the completely arbitrary point of division and the blatant omissions of certain games, it completely ignored first party handheld games. Y'see, before the Gameboy Advance launched, starting around the mid-90's (if not earlier) Nintendo did very little by way of handheld games. It was Pokémon and that was it. Now, they put out just as many if not more first party games on handhelds as they do on consoles. That's just first party software though. If you did a poll asking which of the three main consoles had the best first party games, the Wii would win. Very easily. The reason it does so badly in polls like this is due to other factors, such as the lack of multiplatform games. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
__Smurf__ posted... Pretty typical of this place that Skyward getting pounded must be down to Skyrim being beastly rather than just accepting the obvious conclusion. Yes SS would lose to all of Wind Waker, Fallout 3 and Oblivion. Sheesh. Somebody's projectiiiiing... Seriously, look at the previous polls (sans Pokémon). Skyward Sword trashes everything in a typical Zelda-style beatdown, it's just... Skyrim goes beyond even that. 43% in one of these polls is amazing. I mean, while we are looking at fewer options, last year's equivalent had a winner with 24%, just over half that. Even Twilight Princess only pulled what Skyrim did with far weaker competition. Skyrim is an absolute monster when you compare it to everything else we've seen, and undoubtedly in the running for strongest game of the generation. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Skyward Sword is just weak. Quite embarrassing for a Zelda game. --- http://oi42.tinypic.com/11gn5ox.jpg |
Yes,
it's possible Skyward Sword is weak. But it's just as possible that
Skyrim really is strong. I'm not taking it over FFVII or anything crazy
like that, but I'll take it over Fallout 3 easily. It would probably
still lose to the big games of the past decade (Smash, FFX), but I'd
take it to hang with RE4 or the MGS games. --- SuperNiceDog owned me in the Guru. Or do I have to stop using the word "owned" in order to not offend black people due to slavery? |
Okay, my lists again, with everything outside the top 200 on unikgamer omitted: Mario Kart 64 Star Fox 64 GoldenEye 007 Banjo-Kazooie The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Super Smash Bros. Perfect Dark Banjo-Tooie The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask Conker's Bad Fur Day Paper Mario Super Smash Bros. Melee Metroid Prime The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker Mario Kart: Double Dash!! Since then, let's see: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Super Mario Galaxy Super Smash Bros. Brawl Super Mario Galaxy 2 It just gets worse. And as for handheld games, I don't hear about people praising the DS's and 3DS's Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games that much, and I don't give a darn about any other Nintendo franchise at this moment. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Ultimaphazon posted... Yes, it's possible Skyward Sword is weak. But it's just as possible that Skyrim really is strong. I'm not taking it over FFVII or anything crazy like that, but I'll take it over Fallout 3 easily. It would probably still lose to the big games of the past decade (Smash, FFX), but I'd take it to hang with RE4 or the MGS games. Unless GFAQs has suddenly flocked to Bethesda in the same way it flocked to Square when FFVII came out, I'm not going to take something that's going to go around losing awards to some Dark Souls thingy to be that strong. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
I'm
comparing SS through Arkham City more than I am Skyrim. I figure City
and Asylum are about as popular - maybe Asylum slightly moreso - so SS
is a bit better than Arkham Asylum. Fallout 3 probably takes SS based on
that, but not by a lot. total guesswork going off GOTY polls though. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Theres
only so weak a mainline Zelda game can be...WW level is about what I
think SS is. Wind Waker had lots of hate, and SS has gotten more praise
from whats from what I've seen, so I don't see any reason that WW should
easily beat SS or anything. This is just Skyrim beasting. Plus, I'd take Arkham City over Arkham Asylum. That game looks way stronger in the GotY polls than Asylum ever did. --- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17745029/1325834786563.gif http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Lightning Strikes posted... LinkMarioSamus posted... Hence why I said I'm withholding full judgement on the matter - because watching is not completely the same as playing. That said though, I have seen that SMG2 is not at all so superior to SMG1, and that WW is no death of Nintendo. Okay, so ignoring how terrible you are with the gaming obsession despite not actually playing games, first, yes, SMG2 is quite a bit better than SMG. It's SMG with about twice as much content, even more variety and the worst parts (mantasssss) removed. How is that not much better? The only reason it didn't receive quite as much acclaim as the original is because the original is... the original. Coming first has its advantages, and pretty much the number one reason SMG2 was only third for GotY awards that year despite being easily the best reviewed game is that it was effectively a level pack. The best level pack ever, no doubt, but still. Like I said, I'm withholding full judgement on this matter until I get around to playing both games again, but I'm 100% certain that SMG1 cannot be so far inferior. And like I said, I honestly remember liking both games about evenly. And I don't remember the manta ray segments to be so bad. But the most important thing: I hope you realise that nobody but Ulti actually thinks that Wind Waker killed Nintendo. Thank goodness, although as much of a Zelda mood as I am in now, I still get a bit of a sick feeling when I think about the franchise's seemingly overbearing popularity on sites like GFAQs, IGN, G4, and ScrewAttack - although when I think about the series on its own merits (like how I'm listening to OOT music now and how I was listening to WW music earlier), I remember that it truly does deserve it - although maybe not fully, and I can probably understand why guys like LeonhartFour and Ulti are upset at the series being so popular here. If anything, let's not kid ourselves, Nintendo's software output has improved massively over the last decade. I mean, you posted that ridiculous list, but asides from the completely arbitrary point of division and the blatant omissions of certain games, it completely ignored first party handheld games. Y'see, before the Gameboy Advance launched, starting around the mid-90's (if not earlier) Nintendo did very little by way of handheld games. It was Pokémon and that was it. Now, they put out just as many if not more first party games on handhelds as they do on consoles. I have not heard of any DS or 3DS game I'm interested in being "must-have" kind of things. That's just first party software though. If you did a poll asking which of the three main consoles had the best first party games, the Wii would win. Very easily. The reason it does so badly in polls like this is due to other factors, such as the lack of multiplatform games. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
GintokiSaotome posted... Theres only so weak a mainline Zelda game can be...WW level is about what I think SS is. Wind Waker had lots of hate, and SS has gotten more praise from whats from what I've seen, so I don't see any reason that WW should easily beat SS or anything. This is just Skyrim beasting. WW doesn't have that much hate, it's just that the hate is really loud (and completely undeserved). It's in the top 35 at unikgamer (and highest-rated post-2000 Nintendo game), and received monster critical acclaim upon release (and it deserves it all). --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
LMS is posting but I don't think anyone has read a word not sure why people think Zelda has a floor. we heard this with FF12/FF13 and whoops. here is where you say bubububut ZELDA but people aren't stupidly voting for these games. if there's a game they haven't played or don't like, they're not going to vote for it just because Zelda is in the title. I think SS is going to grow over time. that's the kind of game people are going to get to down the line. Skyrim just dwarfed everything this holiday season. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Skyward Sword is really strong. Hell it beat Ocarina in IGNs versus thing (though that is IGN we are talking about). I would say it would most likely beat TWW, TP and Oblivion. It's just Skyrim is a monster of a game that beats all. Here I would say it's third only to OoT and FFVII. Hell it might even take FFVII now a days. --- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! |
Well
Skyward Sword is the Zelda series' equivalent of Other M from what I've
heard (not that that's a bad thing, that game also doesn't deserve most
of its excessive hate), so no one cares. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Skyrim
will probably retain its popularity better than other WRPGs might.
Like most of the other strong games on the site, Skyrim seems to be a
pretty big "first" game for a lot of people, whether it be their first
Elder Scrolls game, first Bethesda game, first WRPG or whatever. --- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker |
I
would also argue that ScrewAttack is the more Nintendo place to go now a
days then Gamefaqs as Zelda was voted over Skyrim there. Not to say we
don't have a big Nintendo community cause we do most certainly. --- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! |
Skyrim is still in hype mode. SS will 60/40 Skyrim in the next contest. --- Black: 3310-7431-2094 |
Can
we quit making excuses for SS? And it's not like I don't have an issue
with this result, although it's more related to Skyrim than SS (or
maybe I'm just not interested in SS due to GT's review and
ScottishDuck17 stating that it would not be in his top 5 Zelda games,
which is pretty big seeing how he dislikes MM). But yeah, quit making excuses for SS and denying that your precious ZeldaFAQs has finally moved on so we can all think about the series more on its own merits instead of GFAQs popularity. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Also Skyrim got a 40/40 by Famitsu. When a Japanese oriented mag gives an American game a perfect score you know it has to be amazing. --- Burning Spies is one of my Specialties! |
damn you scottishduck17 --- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker |
UberPyro64 posted... Also Skyrim got a 40/40 by Famitsu. When a Japanese oriented mag gives an American game a perfect score you know it has to be amazing. First Western game to ever get a perfect score from them! --- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17745029/1325834786563.gif http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
But yeah, quit making excuses for SS and denying that your precious ZeldaFAQs has finally moved on so we can all think about the series more on its own merits instead of GFAQs popularity. So, shouldn't you play the game so you can judge it based on its own merits instead of a random site and random user? --- http://www.backloggery.com/myimmortal |
although
maybe not fully, and I can probably understand why guys like
LeonhartFour and Ulti are upset at the series being so popular here. uhhhhh --- http://www.miscupload.com/upload/452457071929141623517416.gif |
