GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1043 [Skyrim > Zelda] [Skyrim best ever]
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From: Menji76 | #002 Only if Skyrim's not involved. --- I want to be SuperNiceDog for Halloween! http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
From: Menji76 | #002 Man your trolling is so awful. --- "I wouldn't be shocked if you or Spiral faked flavor as town, you guys are lunatics." -neonreaper |
Part of me would love to see pull off another "upset." Even when it can't win, it wins. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Skyard Sword's issue is the console it's on. People hate the Wii enough to cancel out the Zelda love. Plus Skyrim really *is* the best game ever made. I exaggerate a lot, I know, but no game is better. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· Is a momentary gleam all you need? |
There's
no way Zelda can match this power. Best I'm hoping for is that it
manages something around 42-43% in the big poll (even that might be
unreachable if both Pokemon and OoT are there) and then ups that to like
46% in the final 3way. If it hits mid-40s in a 3way, I'd still probably
take it over Skyrim in a contest match several months from now. --- Yoblazer: http://oi42.tinypic.com/15douf9.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
From: pjbasis | #005 I wonder, if Skyrim wins but Zelda keeps it somewhat close (as I said, 46%), would Zelda be the underdog in a contest match six months from now? --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
If Zelda hits mid-40s in a 3way, I think that means it won, unless Batman gets like 2%. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
I think he means 46% on Skyrim. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "SuperNiceDog! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Yeah, relative to Skyrim. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
I know I'm just messin. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
YOU'LL MAKE A FINE RUG, CAT --- "There are no fingerprints deep under water, nothing to tie one to a crime And if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain." -Dethklok |
You remind me of my cousin's cat. Killed that, too. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z277/raptorlc/karma.jpg |
My favorite drinkin' buddy, let's get some mead! --- ·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯` "Ulti's 'look at how not-seriously I take myself' sig rotation!" -SantaRPG |
Can you roll a million cheese down a mountain in Skyward Sword? I don't think so. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
ganondorf title superior Anyway, the only game I can remember being this dominate during GOTY time was TP. That speaks highly to what Skyrim is doing here. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
CAN YOU PLAY AS LINK IN SKYRIM!? --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
pjbasis posted... CAN YOU PLAY AS LINK IN SKYRIM!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtG-9lm4t34 --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
I was going to make the next Stats topic with a similar title ("Zelda Lost!?" Edition) Also, I never knew Ulti liked to roleplay as a furry. --- Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Guru for a Super Bad Contest! |
From: UltimaterializerX | #006 No, SS's issue is that it's not that great of a game. I hate the wii but love games like Mario galaxy and Xenoblade. --- http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/shesafirinherlazeroer5x.gif |
I'm
with Smurf. GameFAQs isn't changing, it's just that Nintendo and Square
are sucking and western games are winning by default. that Skyward
Sword is even in contention says everything you need to know about our
site. the only western games that are surging are RPGs. Skyrim and ME2 are beasts, Fallout 3 is good and ME3 should be great if the game doesn't suck. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
From: The_Djoker | #021 Yep. The very fact that its the likely #2 game of the year is downright ludicrous from gamefaqs. No other site would do this. I'm not trying to rail hard on the game here and most including myself would have it a a top 10, but it would be naive to think that a comfortable #2 on gamefaqs isn't a very drastic overperformance compared to what it'd do someplace else. --- http://mypsn.eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/smurfsdabomb.png |
Portal should not be doing this bad. Screw you Batman. --- FF fans don't hang around the internet on a monday morning they are out doing shopping or asleep hungover from parties. They got lives. -The_Djoker |
From: __Smurf__ | #103 No other site would do this indeed. Which is why it won at G4! :) I always find it funny how their reaction was just to cry about Zelda fanboys, too. This mentality always annoys me: http://pichars.org/store/6732_original_1324416878138.jpg I mean, not liking something as much as everyone else, fine, but complaining about something being popular is a little absurd. Skyward Sword is a high selling, very highly rated game, and it was always going to be considered one of the best of the year. Anyway, on a more related note, some interesting patterns here. Skyrim not doing as well as it did yesterday. The competition is a little stronger, but not massively so. It makes me think that Skyrim is one of those hyper-dedicated fandom types of games that looks amazing with multiple options but not as good as the field reduces, while Nintendo games (Zelda included) tend to be more of a mass appeal kind of thing, and tend to do better with fewer options because the fanbase is very large, but not as dedicated. A good example would be last year's GotY polls. In the second final poll, ME2 utterly dominated. But in the final poll, with only 3 entrants, it still won but SMG2 kept it a lot closer, and one on one it may have been quite close. So although Skyrim will surely win these polls, I wonder how it would do against Skyward Sword one-on-one. It would still win, I think, but I'm not sure it would look as great as it does now. And speaking of that, jegus Portal 2, way to look increasingly worse with every poll. I take back every good thing I said about you in the last topic. The second it gets some decent competition it collapses utterly. Of course, we should have seen this coming after the second early GotY poll, where it lost a significant amount of its votes to "None of the above". --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Anyway, on a more related note, some interesting patterns here. Skyrim not doing as well as it did yesterday. I thought so too originally, but now it ended up still tripling Portal 2. Its doing just as well as yesterday, and still has all day to rise another 1% most likely. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
lol
I hadn't seen that G4 bracket thing. Skyward Sword was beating all of
Skyrim, Batman and Uncharted 3 by between 51-53%? hmm, what really looks
suspicious is the implication of legitimacy would mean all four of them
are on track for nearly tripling Portal 2. On a community like G4
crucifying Portal like that? In fact FIFA could apparently give Portal a
close match according to that. ^^ But yes I am just frustrated that there's people apparently enjoying a game I hate in a series I love, feels like I'm missing out. It's FFXII all over again. --- Smurf , The Cream of Sonic Fanboyism |
I think its funnier how Portal 2 is closer to Dark Souls than it is to Batman now --- http://img.imgcake.com/superangelo128/Higurashipicjpgaz.jpg Good job SuperNiceDog |
Yeah...Portal 2 is just not that strong, apparently. Shame. --- "The great GF...SuperNiceDog." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
I
was wrong about Portal 2. I thought it would enjoy its eight months
alone as the big 2011 game to beat Batman. Seems more like it was just
forgotten in the holiday rush. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
I don't think that's why. Portal 2 just never had a whole lot of traction when compared to the original. --- xyzzy |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4397 it's not like this was a dominating performance or anything. (I think we could compare that poll's strength to Skyward Sword and get a general idea of where it's at) --- xyzzy |
Portal
2 would have looked much better there if not for that stupid last
option. "None of the above" would do well in GotY voting every single
year. --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
Nah, I doubt it benefits significantly more than the other options if you remove "None of the above." --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and SuperNiceDog?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Special Bonus GotY poll: Skyrim vs "None of the above" --- Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Guru for a Super Bad Contest! |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #030 or that batman is better. Portal would still beat most games. Last year there wasn't anything close to ME2(apart from smg2 and rdr but not enough to beat it) so it won easily. It's got nothing to being forgotten and if it was then maybe its not as good as people think it is. --- http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/shesafirinherlazeroer5x.gif |
Just putting this out there: Skyrim is the definitive game of this generation, and will win the next Games contest*. *if it's another GotD contest. It won't be able to compete against nostalgia. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Djoker, is English your native language? --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
Wow,
you guys are really expecting a lot out of it. Let's see how badly it
beats Zelda in the final 3way first. If Zelda can hang in the mid-40s,
then it's still quite a tall order for Skyrim to take out Smash Bros,
TP, or FFX. Those games are a cut (or two) above the second-tier stuff
like RE4 and Kingdom Hearts, which are, in turn, a cut above the
strongest Western stuff before Skyrim. --- Yoblazer: http://oi42.tinypic.com/15douf9.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
I'm
basing my prediction off of how great the game is, and how popular it
is. You usually don't combine the two (games that are popular aren't
always well received and well received games aren't always popular).
Skyrim is amazingly good, and is definitely the most popular game this
year on just about every site. It caters directly to the GameFAQs crowd
as well. I've been saying since the original Skyrim trailers came out
that it would be one of the best games ever and I was only partially
right, because it IS the best game ever. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
From: LeonhartFour | #154 Maybe not benefit, as it is possible that people simply stopped caring after a few months, but it definitely lost more to "None of the above" than any other game in the previous poll. I mean it goes from clearly beating Pokémon to probably losing if you take out OoT. But given how badly it's done in these polls, maybe that is the case. Maybe it's just not as strong as it was when it came out. From: PartOfYourWorld | #159 Except Fallout 3 would beat all those second tier games. Skyrim would probably beat Fallout 3. Also Skyrim is a great game, but best game ever, I don't think so. Perhaps if it had a main quest worth more than half a damn, and for that matter a decent narrative and cast. And yes, I'm aware that that's also the case for every Elder Scrolls game. Hell, every Bethesda game (though less obviously so). If you're a sandbox fan, it's probably the best sandbox ever, but it kinda lacks in the core experience. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #038 No,But I tend to moss out words due to horrible typing skills. I was meant to say it's got nothing to do but forgot to type it. And TP Brawl aren't that strong. None of these games would be in the top 5 on this site, probably won't even be top 10. I still think it's early to judge Skyrim because it's GOTY poll where hype plays a big factor(See Modern Warfare 2) Where will Skyrim be in a years time? Don't know but I think it will place much higher than Fallout 3. I honestly don't think games like TP and Brawl would be locks to beat Skyrim. Certainly not TP when a lot of people prefer SS to TP. --- http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/shesafirinherlazeroer5x.gif |
Skyrim
has yet to lose a single update in this poll so far. Arkham City has
come within 11 votes of tying Skyrim on an update, but hasn't managed to
do any better than that on a single update. SKYRIM DOMINATION, MAN! Because today's poll is just 5 games, I'll do a trend chart later on. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
And
to think, the last games to be this dominant during GotY were actually
linear games with no side content and crappy stories(RE4 and TP). --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Lightning Strikes posted... Also Skyrim is a great game, but best game ever, I don't think so. Perhaps if it had a main quest worth more than half a damn, and for that matter a decent narrative and cast. And yes, I'm aware that that's also the case for every Elder Scrolls game. Hell, every Bethesda game (though less obviously so). If you're a sandbox fan, it's probably the best sandbox ever, but it kinda lacks in the core experience. Bashing Skyrim for not focusing on one aspect of the game is like bashing Zelda for not being a great multiplayer game. Skyrim is amazing at what it focuses on, and thats a giant sandbox world. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
From: Lightning Strikes | #025 A Zelda fanboy blindly defending SS, why I never. Anyone who uses "very highly rated" to defend their argument is automatically wrong. Notice how I never bring up any of Skyrim's review scores, even though all of them are between 93 and 100? It's because the game wins on its own merit, something the Zelda series hasn't done since Majora's Mask. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· The moon lights away while she's howling at it. |
Ulti, you are unfathomably ridiculous. Like I can't believe how wrong you are about Zelda. It's something the Zelda series hasn't done since Oracle of Ages and Seasons! --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
I
think Zelda will get a close second but the fanboys will whine about it
for a long time. I go to ZeldaInformer, and in the comments section in
an article commenting on how Skyrim won GOTY on some site, all the
top-rated comments were by people who hated on Skyrim and clearly never
played nor intended to play it. Plus, from what I know, ZeldaInformer is
the least fanboyish of the big Zelda sites. I loved playing Skyward Sword but the only way I can see it winning is if the entire Nintendo fanbase on this site rallied against Skyrim. And Skyrim will never win GotD after what will happen, because when that time comes everyone will complain about how BETHESDA ALWAYS WINS!!! --- SuperNiceDog has won. |
From: FateStayAlbion | #205 I'm not bashing Skyrim, it's still one of the best games of the year. But I found the main quest, story, and characters to be lacking. And you can say, "oh that's not the point of the game", but that doesn't stop them from being in the game, and frankly, not that good. If you're going to put something in a game, you should do it well. Skyrim still has a main quest, and it's a fairly large part of the game. And it's just not great. From: UltimaterializerX | #206 I'm not saying SS is good because it's got good reviews. I'm saying that complaining about a game that got an excellent reception pretty much across the board being popular is silly. Of course the games that a lot of people like will have a lot of people who like them. Also, I think it's pretty insulting to say that that reception was not earned. People like things because they like them. And that's in general BTW, not just talking about critics, before you go off on a bribery conspiracy theory. And no, I am not a fanboy of Zelda, any more than you are of Skyrim. It's not perfect, but it's an awesome game with some of the best level design I've ever seen, an awesome combat system, the best use of motion controls ever, a great story... There are niggles, but I found it to be an awesome experience because it's just a really well made game, not because of some sort of silly series loyalty. I myself like the games that I think are good. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
The fact that Skyrim can be buggy to some people and not buggy to others? That's the only fact here. Saying morrowind is better isn't a fact. But keep reassuring yourself with the elitist talk. I didn't say anything about bugs the stuff I was talking about effects everyone playing on PC. The default fov being what it is on consoles on PCs as well, the mouse by default moving significantly faster horizontally than it does up/down, the interface for the PC version being unusable with a mouse since they used the same interface across the versions, the fact that a mod has already been released that doubles performance, the 360 controller being enabled by default (even if you don't have one plugged in already) which screws with the mouse/keyboard controls. It is worse than Morrowind in every way besides prettiness and combat. That is not debatable. I guess some people prefer those things over everything else though so the general statement is an opinion. Lack of content relative to the other TES games is a fact as well. Morrowind has over 450 quests and doesn't have any radiant quests. Skyrim has slightly over 200 quests including radiant quests which means like ~120 actual quests. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis Congratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. |
