GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1042
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Wii has as console exclusives arguably the two most popular series and
maybe even as high as 3 of the top 4 actual console series on this site.
Not to mention it had maybe the most-looked forward to game ever.
Well-loved series' tend to lead to people owning the only console one
can play said series on. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
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Literally the 520,652nd post in one of these contest topics. Wow, guys. |
Just
a few days before GotY voting begins, I'm wondering if anyone here
would seriously consider taking Skyrim over Brawl or Twilight Princess
in a match. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
Definitely not Brawl. Twilight Princess maybe if was held right now. Next time a contest is held? Nope. It'll be stronger than Oblivion, but there's a lot of room between getting Ulti blowed out by WW and beating TP. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #153 Not yet. Skyward Sword might just be a weak entrant, honestly, especially considering this site abandoned the Wii a couple years ago. Relatively speaking, that is. It could be an ME2/Galaxy 2 situation. --- SuperNiceDog forced me to retreat in shame from the Guru: http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
At the very most, Skyrim will not be stronger than Fallout 3 in a contest, and it already lost to Brawl in GOTD. I assume Skyward Sword will at least be above the fodder line in a general games contest. Regardless of what you think about Skyward Sword's strength, it's still a console Zelda game, which really makes a big difference in the strength of a Zelda game. The portable Zeldas are weak and would be thrashed in a contest (except for Link's Awakening). Being from the most popular series on this site along with being on a console will at least assure every console Zelda game will be automatically granted enough strength that it becomes very likely it will be above the fodder line. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Why
is it impossible for Skyrim to be stronger than Fallout 3? Skyrim seems
bigger right now than Fallout 3 ever was. I wouldn't feel 100%
comfortable taking anything other than OoT and FFVII over it, right at
this moment. The TP/FFX/MM/Brawl/Melee tier of entrants are strong, but
not invincible beasts. Remember that Brawl/MGS4 GOTY poll? Brawl won,
but barely, and Skyrim's closer to its peak right now than MGS4 was
then. --- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. |
Skyrim
also seems to be closer to this game's tastes than Fallout 3, as I
think the site generally prefers fantasy settings (at least I do). Not
sure why it has to be weaker. --- SuperNiceDog owned me in the Guru. Or do I have to stop using the word "owned" in order to not offend black people due to slavery? |
Skyrim should
grow to be the strongest Western game of all throughout the next year.
It may in fact hold that distinction now, but I'd still feel uneasy
taking any Western game (including it) over the established Japanese
elites. Pre-Skyrim, the strongest Western game was either Fallout 3,
Oblivion, Portal, or Mass Effect 2, and there are a half dozen Zeldas
alone that would take any of them. The site is just crazy for the older
stuff from glorious nippon. Only one time has a Western game - Starcraft
- truly broken through, and it got totally b****ed by FFVIII for
payback. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/29/2011 5:29:25 AM | message detail | quote Why is it impossible for Skyrim to be stronger than Fallout 3? I never said it wasn't impossible for that to happen. I'm always a little wary towards picking recently released games over established games that have been tested in a contest format already. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I get the vibe that Skyrim isn't stronger than Fallout 3 yet,
but will have potential to grow with time to the point where it'll be
the strongest Western game. I think by the time the next contest rolls
around, Skyrim could beat WW and score 48% on TP. Then again, I'm usually wrong about these things. --- Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Guru for a Super Bad Contest! |
Fallout
3 got pretty close to Brawl. If Skyrim is stronger........does that
mean it can hang with MM and FFX? That would really be something. Of
course, if it can beat SS, then it should be in that range, so perhaps
it isn't so strange. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Long posts about contests that aren't crew write-ups or PCAs are awful. There are no exceptions. That's completely false. Those make up most of the best posts in this topic. (I'm not talking about LMS ramblings on VG magazine rankings) --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
Fallout
3 had some wonky matches at the end. A game that scores almost 46% on
Brawl should manage more than 52% on Metroid Prime. I think Oblivion
would give F3 a pretty respectable fight, and Wind Waker (a game that
would be quite lucky to be the #5 Zelda) gave Oblivion an easy 56%
beating. IMO, Fallout's final ranking is inflated, and Skyrim would have
to be a good deal stronger just to hang with Zelda titles in that 3-5
range. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
I
suspect Skyrim and ME2 (maybe ME3, too) will pass FO3. FO3 was
basically restarting a niche series, whereas Skyrim and ME2 already had a
good establishment for their fanbases and the directions they wanted to
go. Skyrim also has a good shot at winning GotY here like ME2 did,
which is something FO3 failed to do. Not that established sequels or
GotY-awards always decide what are the strongest games here (hello,
CoD:MW2), but FO3 seems like it's helped open the doors for other WRPGs
to become more successful -- like Oblivion and SW:KotOR before it. It'll remain a milestone-game, but it's not unbeatable in its genre. Whether you consider the chances it was over-rated against SSBB, Skyrim meeting the hype in a very competitive holiday season as its front-runner, and/or the chance ME2 boosts after ME3 anything like how ME1 did after ME2...eh, I think FO3 could lose those match-ups now or in the near future. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
Yeah, I don't buy Fallout 3's final match against Brawl either. But hopefully we'll get a Games Contest in the near future to find out! --- "I can set you free, SuperNiceDog." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Skyrim the strongest Western game losing by at least 10 old japanese games.Makes sense. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I think they meant besides crew write-ups, PCAs, AND red sox elaborate Hyrule history excerpts. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
I thought it was commonly accepted that Fallout 3's performance on Brawl was bogus? Antivoting etc. --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. The guru champ isn't such a SuperNiceDog, he made me change my sig! |
The
big flaw with arguing GotY awards for ME2/Skyrim > FO3 is that if
the Wii doesn't completely die off Skyrim and Mass Effect 2 get
dominated by Skyward Sword and Galaxy 2, with maybe Mass Effect 2 able
to make it close to Galaxy 2. Mass Effect 2 didn't even exactly light
the world on fire against a game that was about as hyped here as Marvel vs. Capcom 3. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
One
feather in ME2's cap is the performance of the original Mass Effect in
an actual 1v1 games contest. It delighted fans and surprised critics by
scoring 46% on Portal, which went on to prove its own worth by scoring
almost 45% on RE4. Among B8ers, ME2 is unanimously considered to be a
stronger contest force than the original, and it doesn't need to be that
much stronger to threaten or beat Portal. If it beats Portal, then it
starts falling in the range where it would give RE4 a good showing. Unfortunately, I think ME2 missed its best time to excel. Whether the upcoming ME3 is a gem, a dud, or anything in between, I think it'll probably end up siphoning some of 2's popularity. I just have a feeling that new, rapid-fire, direct sequels in series with an ongoing plot might work that way. For example, I wouldn't expect Skyrim to negatively affect Oblivion's popularity, but I think Uncharted 3 may indeed do that to Uncharted 2. EDIT: Does anyone else think this unsubstantiated theory could hold some water, or am I on crazy street here? --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
Probably depends on how well liked Mass Effect 3 becomes but it shouldn't steal too much popularity overall --- http://img.imgcake.com/superangelo128/Higurashipicjpgaz.jpg Good job SuperNiceDog |
Note that Portal might have boosted again since GotD from Portal 2 and continued Portal giveaways. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO SUPERNICEDOG NO PEACE] |
I
feel like rapid-fire sequels run the risk of getting a CoD/Madden
perception. If ME3 is a dud or even just ok, it wouldn't surprise me to
see a big drop for ME2. Maybe if ME3 outshines ME2 massively it could
siphon some of the other's popularity, but on a site like this old beats
new pretty easily, and I'd expect ME3 to help ME2 more than hurt. Although quite frankly if the Rivalry Rumble really was an extension of games/series, that's a really bad sign for damn near everything recent. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Now this is an unexpected poll. Seems like Bacon has replaced "Got iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad?" with this poll instead. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I didnt evne know Windows phones existed --- http://img.imgcake.com/superangelo128/Higurashipicjpgaz.jpg Good job SuperNiceDog |
I knew they existed, because this isn't the first time that "Windows Phone" has been in a GameFAQs poll. But, I'm still not sure what we'll get for tomorrow's poll. It will be an original poll idea, although I'm probably expecting a new idea for a "Got Console?" poll that has never been used before. Something like "Got iPod Touch/iPad?" might even be possible. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Last
year the poll on New Year's Day was "Best DS Game". Perhaps he'll
replace that with "Best 3DS/DS Game?" I don't think anyone wants to sit
through Pokemon Black/White blowing out the likes of Okamiden, Dragon
Quest VI and Radiant Historia in a Best DS Game poll, but seeing it up
against OoT3D, SM3DL and MK7 could be interesting. --- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2623 We had a best PS3 game poll for 2006, even though the PS3 had only been out for less than 2 months prior to that poll. Granted, that poll was total trash and only had 5 games. The 3DS has the advantage of being released during the early part of this year and there are definitely enough 3DS games to make a poll that has more than 6 games in it. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
GameFAQs console ownership rates as of the end of 2011: Wii: 69.03% PS3: 63.28% X360: 58.67% 3DS: 33.55% Pretty complete turn around from the PS3 against the 360. With the Wii more or less static at this point (on GameFAQs), it wouldn't shock me if the PS3 was able to get very close to it over the next couple of years. Other point to note is the strong start by the 3DS, and with continued momentum and games for series GameFAQs likes coming out (Resident Evil, Kingdom Hearts, Paper Mario...) throughout the next year it should climb quickly. --- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. |
Wasn't
expecting this poll. But there's even less need for a poll like this
considering how unpopular tablet computers are on GameFAQs. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
I
don't think ME2 will be that much affected by ME3. People will still
have fond memories of ME2, no matter how good/bad ME3 is. And I'd pick ME2 over Galaxy 2 in an actual match, but that's more because I don't have much faith in Galaxy 2's strength. It's a game I'm sure people love, but I don't think it's a game people are passionate enough about to vote for. --- Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Guru for a Super Bad Contest! |
PartOfYourWorld posted... Pre-Skyrim, the strongest Western game was either Fallout 3, Oblivion, Portal, or Mass Effect 2 You forgot Half-Life 2, Metroid Prime, and GoldenEye! --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
LinkMarioSamus posted... PartOfYourWorld posted... Pre-Skyrim, the strongest Western game was either Fallout 3, Oblivion, Portal, or Mass Effect 2 You forgot Half-Life 2, Metroid Prime, and GoldenEye! Fallout 3 beat MP, which beat HL2, so that disqualifies them from being the strongest Western game. Goldeneye probably would beat Fallout 3, though. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
I've
probably said it many times before, but I personally think that Fallout
3 and Metroid Prime were both receiving "artificial" boosts from those
franchises having releases right before GOTD, so Half-Life 2 could beat
them both now, especially now with Valve being more relevant than in
2010. Although Fallout 3 > Metroid Prime > Half-Life 2 makes the most sense anyway. And I thought that Metroid Prime > Oblivion was certain - Oblivion did worse against Wind Waker than Metroid Prime did, and the latter has more reason to be SFFd (unless you think Legend of Zelda and Elder Scrolls share a "casual RPG fanbase" of sorts). --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Not sure I'd take Half-Life 2 to beat Portal, personally. --- All SuperNiceDog does is win! http://www.miscupload.com/upload/452457071929141623517416.gif |
I'm
really looking forward to seeing how Skyrim does in the GotY polls.
Obviously it won't mean as much as if it was a true contest, but if it
can easily beat Skyward Sword again after both are out (like another
60-40), I'd feel safe saying its the strongest Western game. Even in
GotY polls, I couldn't see any of the other Western games demolishing a
main line Zelda game like that. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
No
mainline-LoZ game has ever lost GotY here before, so a victory over
LoZ:SS at all will be impressive...and the hype-polls suggest it could
be an easy beat-down, too. Time will tell, of course, but the winner of
a year this stacked and varied should be quite strong anyway. We not
only get deja vu from 2009's best games... --> CoD:MW3, second sequel to 2009's GotY --> Uncharted 3, sequel to 2009's runner-up --> Batman: Arkham City, sequel to B:AA which arguably could've been 2009's runner-up --> Dragon Age 2, sequel to 2009's #3 game --> Assassin's Creed: Revelations, second sequel to AC2 which arguably could've been 2009's #3 game ...we also have three unrelated front-runners: --> Portal 2, following the still-growing original --> LoZ:SS, another mainline-LoZ game that sold tons despite Wii-hate --> Skyrim, which has taken The Elder Scrolls to another level I think all of them except DA2 were well-received, so whatever survives will command some respect. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/31/2011 1:49:33 PM | message detail | quote I'm really looking forward to seeing how Skyrim does in the GotY polls. If we do 3 days of Multi-Platform polls, like we had for the GotY 2010 polls, Skyrim could possibly get above 30% in the Multi-Platform poll. Even Fallout 3 couldn't manage 30% here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3358 Skyrim will probably be in Day 2 of the Multi-Platform polls, but it's very unlikely it will get above 30% in the final Multi-Platform poll, like this poll we had for GotY 2010: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4213 That poll took the top 7 games from Day 1 and Day 2 of the Multi-Platform polls. --- Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ |
I just realized Skyward Sword sold the least of all the games you mentioned there. Times have changed. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
ZFS posted... I just realized Skyward Sword sold the least of all the games you mentioned there. Times have changed. Holy moly. I understand it was still the fastest-selling LoZ-game to date, too! --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate SuperNiceDog's Guru-choice, then Epona. |
It sold less than Dragon Age 2, Uncharted 3, Batman: Arkham City, and Portal 2? No way........... --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
red sox 777 posted... It sold less than Dragon Age 2, Uncharted 3, Batman: Arkham City, and Portal 2? No way........... It got killed by Tales in Japan, too! http://www.gamespot.com/news/big-in-japan-nov-21-27-skyward-sword-6346904?tag=result%3Btitle%3B3 http://www.gamespot.com/news/big-in-japan-sept-5-11-tales-of-xillia-6335611?tag=result%3Btitle%3B3 Skyward Sword first week: 194,978 Tales of Xillia first week: 525,605 Zelda really doesn't have impressive sales anymore. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Yep! Uncharted sold 700k in the US in November, SS sold about 650k. AC Revelations sold three times that! --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
Less than 200k first week in Japan? Didn't Wind Waker get around double that? --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
3D Zelda isn't too popular in Japan. Both Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks outsold TP, WW, and SS. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
Zelda isn't as popular in Japan as it is in America anyway. --- "Stay with me until the end, SuperNiceDog. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
I
know Zelda isn't popular in Japan (Chrono Trigger > any Zelda game
in sales in Japan) but getting half of Wind Waker's sales is pathetic. --- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. |
If only Tales games sold 2.5 times as many copies as Zelda here --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
