GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1042
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Ganondorf > Sephiroth. Link for most attractive character. 2012 is locked up EITHER WAY. --- My weapons are USELESS against SuperNiceDog! |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #001 This is pretty awesome, I must admit. --- - |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #001 Link's doom draws nigh...as long as Bacon allows the doom in. He probably won't :\ --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Where's the "Though my legs keep aching" image from? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/452/linkkeepson.jpg hahaha excellent. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog |
Why isnt there a fictional character poll??? If people see the words vader and batman theyll go nuts over it The sad thing is allen will do a regular character contest with no changes. |
creativename posted... From: Ngamer64 | #1809 What new Contest would you like to see GameFAQs host in 2012? * A new regular Character Battle * A Character Battle, but with former winners removed (Link, Cloud, etc) * A Battle featuring ANY Characters who've been in video games (eg Batman, Darth Vader, Gandalf) * A new Best Video Game Contest (from all eras) * Best. System. Ever. I like! Well done. Okay, submitted this as a PotD suggestion. I'll let you know what SB says about it (if anything). Should have fixed the mistake before submitting it. --- SuperNiceDog owned me in the Guru. Or do I have to stop using the word "owned" in order to not offend black people due to slavery? |
From: creativename | #005 Just some fan art I grabbed from a YouTube video. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
So I went from about 60th to 20th with a straight pick on Link. Nice. --- Every Supernicedog has its day. |
Man
Link broke the record of Sephiroth in Villains Contest?And people say
that he must stay?Lol the drones.Also 37.5% for Link?Seems normal. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Great pic and poll idea. Hope it gets implemented in the next couple of days. --- Menji~ by Ctrl-Alt-Del http://img.imgcake.com/menjipngre.png |
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #011 No he had to break 58.17% and finished at a mere 57.72%. Seph is still barely the king of slaughtering the field. --- I tried to have a fierce rivalry with SuperNiceDog, but he made me look worse than a GameFAQs Contest! |
Oh
nice then!Man amazing then!But I am sure that if the same contest
happened today,Sephiroth would be barely able to beat Bowser and Ganon. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I do like how I had Jill and Conker in 2 of my first 3 battle picks and still managed a top 20 finish. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
That link in the opening post reminds me of Sonic Adventure's theme song for some reason. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
GameFAQs
will be on a light updating schedule through the rest of the year for
our annual holiday break, with our Best of 2011 voting beginning on
January 1st. GotY polls confirmed to start on January 1st. But it's not really a surprise here, because it's been like that for the past few years. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
If
they get rid of all the previous winners i might actually see Squall
make the Semi finals instead of always being destined for the quarter
finals at best.O and non of this boys and girls having seperate brackets
crap either he got screwed in that one contest. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Funny/siggy.jpg |
The past winners?Let us see.Zelda as a series,FF as a series,Link,Cloud and Sephiroth.These are the winners. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Can't
complain about a 5th place finish in the battle contest. Now I just
have to hope at least two of the four who tied for first are somehow not
eligible... though a $20 gift card is nothing to sneeze at. --- 128 character battle royale? My head hurts. RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05 |
The
more I think about it, the more I think an all-fictional CB would be an
exercise in futility. I can't see anybody above say, Yoshi, losing to
Batman. Maybe it's just me, but I don't really care for any fictional VG
characters that we haven't already seen. It would have a decent mid-tier competition, but this site is first and foremost a gaming site, and that will only get more and more apparent as the years go on. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
2012 Final Four 1 Link 1 Batman 1 Simba 1 Rainbow Dash SO MUCH FUN ON A VIDEO GAME SITE!1 Although for the record I do think that non-VG characters would be anti-voted to hell, this is a video game site after all. I'd literally take a Dante or a Sora over Batman who is supposedly called out as the strongest of the other media chuckle brigade. I do actually like the idea of a "most attractive character" contest, could have some seriously hilarious implications. --- Smurf , The Cream of Knuckles Fanboyism |
I
personally don't like the idea of having non game characters in the
contest.There's nothing that can really be done i mean sure you can take
link out but this site is full of drones that will just vote for the
next best alternative every year until that gets boring. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Funny/siggy.jpg |
Today's
poll has finally fallen behind the Trainers/Cloud match in votes (as of
12:45 PM). And considering there were about an extra 3000 votes in the
second half of Trainers/Cloud due to the rallying, today's poll will
almost definitely finish under 60000 votes. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Yeah,
I know I'm in the minority here, but I personally can't support
including the "non-originating from video games" clause. In that case,
Bacon might as well include all fictional characters regardless of
appearing in video game or not, because would people really vote
Superman based on his appearance in Superman 64 instead of his
comics/books? GameFAQs is a site for gamers. The last I want to see on this site are comic book characters and Disney characters that I can't care less about duking it out in the quarterfinals. If I did, I'd just go to imdb.com or whatever other site that caters to this. Instead, retire Link, bring back 4-ways, get game contests back again, etc but please don't change the core of the contests. --- If an active verb shows action, then a passive verb shows passion |
From: minishcap2005 | #025 Agreed, it'd be a horrible sight to behold. I suppose my main grievance is the excitement and the expectation some people have here that comic book, movie etc characters could do really well. The idea that gaming fans would have an inferiority complex or a preference towards characters of another medium would be a really bad situation, and pretty sad for our medium in general. I'd like to think if this idea did go ahead the non-VG originated gang would fall flat on their face. Nothing would make me happier than seeing Phoenix Wright knock out Batman. Though ideally I'd rather support an idea that could make a good contest and not just something that I hope will fail to wave an "I told you so" flag at everyone. --- Smurf , The Cream of Sonic Fanboyism |
Where did the lines from that image come from, yo? --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8FP0ZXQNIbc/TMPB4sM45cI/AAAAAAAABMk/NT3A1UHgh2Y/bwk.gif |
Gamers
can like things other than games. There's no reason being a big movie
fan should disqualify someone from being a gaming fan. You may find the
possibility of non-VG characters being more popular than VG characters
on a gaming site sad but that doesn't mean it can't be true. --- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket. Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! |
Where did the lines from that image come from, yo? They are from the EVO 2k11 theme, I think. --- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket. Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! |
From: UltimaterializerX | #027 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3j7rvNfvTU I just changed the last line. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
I
don't see the problem.ALL VG characters should be eligible.I mean Simba
was in a video game right?So why not take place?Everybody in! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
TRE, you really are god tier. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #031 Because you're either asking people to make a very difficult distinction of voting for a character based in another medium purely on their video game side entry. Or you're asking them to vote on a characters multi-media presence using a video game appearance as some sort of token qualifier. If its going to happen I'd rather it happened as an open multi-media character battle. Rather than trying to masquerade the likes of batman and simba as video game characters. --- Smurf , The Cream of Sonic Fanboyism |
Cloud,Mario,Link,Sephiroth have been in movies and in shows too.Isn't it the same? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Cloud,
Mario, Link, Sephiroth gets votes based primarily on their video game
works. Batamn and Superman get votes primarily on their non-video game
works and are just using their video game appearance to get into the
contest. --- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket. Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! |
Ok lets move onto the GOTY polls Top 5 in strength for me is.. 1. Skyrim 2. Zelda 3. Batman 4. Portal 2 5. Dark Souls Obviously a Multiplat poll will ensure the Final is Zelda Vs Skyrim. I wouild have liked to see Zelda vs. Batman. Would be close. |
From: TRE Public Account | #035 while this is true....i would say recently both the acclaimed Arkham games wil boost Batman A LOT. If we always had fictional characters then a 2008 Batman would be considerably Weaker than a 2011 Batman. |
Dark
Souls won't do much. Its got the hardcore vote but the first game got
tripled by Uncharted 2... no reason to think Uncharted 3 couldn't outdo
the 2nd game too. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/fs.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
It's
worth remembering that Batman could probably be a low midcarder just
off the Arkham games - remember, Asylum got 40% on Fallout 3, and the
second one has, if anything, been received better. Mickey Mouse, Donald
Duck and Goofy could probably be not-fodder based just off the Kingdom
Hearts series. Can't think of any other examples of non-VG originating
characters having independent VG strength though. --- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. |
Are there any fictional character worth anything that haven't been in a video game? --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
Looks
like I missed some.... interesting.... arguments over x-stats
adjustments. So, apparently it's nuts to think Mario/Bowser avoided SFF
against Link, and it's also nuts to think the Red/Blue did not
overperform significantly against Cloud/Sephiroth. And it took a long
time for somebody (Xuxon) to bring up Mario vs. Trainers -- maybe it was
even more inaccurate than Cloud/Sephy vs. the Trainers. Not that I
believe it, but the possibility needed to be thrown out there. So, I will ask this question: Would it be nuts to think that Mario/Bowser vs. Cloud/Sephiroth result could possibly be outside the 51.5%-53.5% range? Considering how far everyone has been off trying to predict Linkondorf vs. Clouderoth, Trainers vs. Clouderoth, and Linkondorf vs. Mowser, I think chances are pretty good it of it being outside that range. I would still bet on it being somewhere inside that range, myself, though. I mean, I still can't imagine how Cloud/Sephiroth could do worse on Link/Ganon than Cloud against Link 1v1, which means that Cloud can't even break 42% against Link now. Which is.....ugh. I want to bring up something else not mentioned. I had a hard time believing this pre-contest, myself. In retrospect I'm not as surprised, thought. If we were in the year 2002 when FF7 was still relatively fresh in gamers' minds, Cloud/Sephiroth would have been a force to be reckoned with. Today, though, I think that most gamers haven't played FF7 in such a long time that they don't really care about the story anymore, which would affect a plot-driven rivalry like Cloud/Sephiroth. (This also makes me wonder if Frog/Magus could have been quite a bit stronger back then, too....) Still, like others have stated, maybe the explanation could be that rivalries across multiple games mean that much more. The effect of something relatively simple like a single character (Cloud) is much harder to erase in a game that hasn't been played for a long time. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
People
are misinterpreting what "While you're at it, get rid of Cloud, and
maybe even Mario" means or certainly what a lot of the voters will have
viewed it to mean. I don't take it as a vote for literally removing those 3 guys, more of a vote at how futile such a process would be. If you remove Link, it'll create another Link that'll have to be removed, after which we'll have a 3rd Link. There'll always be a dominant force unless you remove all of the elite characters. Link isn't the sole problem, the very fact that we've had a seldomly touched noble nine structure for nearly 10 years is more the issue at hand. Popularity isn't fluctuating enough and the guys at the top are maintaining their position over time. Taking one, two or three of them out won't change anything. Taking all of them out will just leave us with proxys for them all dominating the contest. The Ganons and the Vincents of this world will mop up the competition instead. There's good evidence of the proxy voting factor of tournament finals devoid of Link by the Zelda and Ganon overperformances in the female/villains brackets. --- Smurf , The Cream of Sonic Fanboyism |
From: charmander6000 | #040 Not many but that isn't the point. How the contest is framed is very important. Is it in the context of video games or multimedia. --- Smurf , The Cream of Knuckles Fanboyism |
From: Kotetsu534 | #039 Right. I think the range in possible strength is massive. That said, I'm not quite as optimistic as creativename. I realize there's a chance that these characters could be anti-voted and rallied against because they are non-gaming characters on a gaming site. I don't think the odds of this happening are very big (it sure didn't happen on GameSpot), but if it does, the anti-fictional sentiment would be way more powerful than any strength these guys could get from their actual games. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
From: __Smurf__ | #042 You're overthinking this. The "anti-contest" option always wins, or at least has always won for a long time. That option is the most "anti-contest" one in this poll. If you throw in a sixth option saying "get rid of them all, I'm sick of these contests," that one would be winning and the Link/Cloud/Mario option would probably be in last place. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4476 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4454 Batman Arkham City doubled Dark Souls in both of those hype polls. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4507 Skyrim >> Zelda >> Uncharted 3 > MW3 = Assassin's Creed: Revelations. Skyrim will crush the multiplat poll(s), Zelda and Uncharted will make the final from their exclusive polls (along with Gears of War 3). If SBA's taking more than one multiplat game, then it's down to Portal 2 and Arkham City to fight it out. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4397 Portal 2 was easily the strongest game from the first seven months of the year. Only question is whether the releases of Zelda and Skyrim have done enough to see Zelda overtake Skyrim. I doubt it. --- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. |
The
difference between Link and other strong characters is that it is
really hard to see Link lose. Even after a Link-less bracket gives us a
winner the winner probably won't be guarenteed to win the next contest
unlike Link. Of course game releases will be a major factor on whether the trend we see today will continue. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. |
From: FateStayAlbion | #038 nah. I'd definitely take DS over Uncharted 3 on this site. DS is probably 2-3x more popular than Souls and UC3 isn't as popular as UC2. This is a hardcore site and DS was really popular on here. Even pre hype polls didn't do too bad but i think it surpassed hype. Plus it's not a PS3 exclusive either. |
From: Kotetsu534 | #046 Hype polls are what people hype. After they've played the game it becomes different. Did FF13 thrash Mass Effect 2 becaue it destroyed it in Hype polls? Also Revelations would be REALLY weak. It wasn't anywhere near as liked as AC2 or Brotherhood. Are you honestly saying Modern Warefare 3 would be in the top 5? I'm sorry but it wouldn't even be close. I'd take Dark Souls to beat MW3 on this site 1v1 easily. Also you have weigh in what game met it's hype, Skyrim stil huge favourite. Zelda imo isn't going to be strong enough to Beat Skyrim. |
Oh, and the x-stats that Leonhart posted... 1. Link vs. Ganondorf – 50.00% 2. Mario vs. Bowser – 42.28% 3. Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth – 41.74% 4. Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue – 37.51% 5. Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake – 31.62% 6. Ryu vs. Ken Masters – 29.98% 7. Samus Aran vs. Ridley – 29.58% 8. Mega Man X vs. Zero – 28.19% 9. Big Boss vs. The Boss – 27.52% 10. Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion – 26.67% 11. Crono vs. Lavos – 26.08% 12. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Dr. Robotnik – 24.88% 13. Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily – 24.74% 14. Chris Redfield vs. Albert Wesker – 23.90% 15. Terra Branford vs. Kefka Palazzo – 23.19% 16. Alucard vs. Dracula – 22.40% 17. Tidus vs. Jecht – 22.22% 18. Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O’Donnell – 21.00% 19. Frog vs. Magus – 20.94% 20. Pac-Man vs. Blinky – 20.47% 21. Chell vs. GLaDOS – 20.31% 22. Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy – 19.91% 23. Sora vs. Riku – 19.63% 24. Lloyd Irving vs. Kratos Aurion – 19.50% 25. Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth – 19.41% 26. Kratos vs. Zeus – 19.38% 27. Dante vs. Vergil – 19.30% 28. Donkey Kong vs. K. Rool – 18.94% 29. Kirby vs. Meta Knight – 18.81% 30. Raiden vs. Vamp – 18.38% 31. Jim Raynor vs. Sarah Kerrigan – 17.32% 32. Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen – 16.87% 33. Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja – 16.77% 34. Ness vs. Giygas – 16.63% 35. Luigi vs. Waluigi – 16.53% 36. Ike vs. Black Knight – 16.51% 37. Commander Shepard vs. Saren Arterius – 16.47% 38. Yuna vs. Seymour Guado – 16.40% 39. Amaterasu vs. Orochi – 16.31% 40. William B.J. Blazkowicz vs. Adolf Hitler – 15.63% 41. Jill Valentine vs. Nemesis – 15.62% 42. Ezio Auditore da Firenze vs. Rodrigo Borgia – 15.08% 43. Crash Bandicoot vs. Dr. Neo Cortex – 14.93% 44. Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez – 14.79% 45. Arthas Menethil vs. Illidian – 14.70% 46. Leon Kennedy vs. Ada Wong – 14.28% 47. Conker vs. The Great Mighty Poo – 13.40% 48. Katherine vs. Catherine – 13.38% 49. Siegfried Schtauffen vs. Nightmare – 13.24% 50. Bartz Klauser vs. Gilgamesh – 12.85% 51. Earthworm Jim vs. Queen Slug-for-a-Butt – 12.38% 52. Meat Boy vs. Dr. Fetus – 11.87% 53. Ramza Beoulve vs. Delita Hyral – 11.73% 54. The Kid vs. The Guy – 11.46% 55. Banjo vs. Gruntilda – 11.14% 56. Captain Falcon vs. Black Shadow – 11.03% 57. Ratchet vs. Dr. Nefarious – 11.01% 58. Tom Nook vs. Crazy Redd – 10.73% 59. Laharl vs. Mid-Boss – 10.49% 60. Professor Layton vs. Don Paolo – 10.03% 61. Dan Hibiki vs. Sagat – 9.94% 62. Vyse vs. Galcian – 9.89% 63. Guybrush Threepwood vs. LeChuck – 9.20% 64. Sol Badguy vs. Ky Kiske – 6.72% Aside from Squall's division, they actually look pretty good to me. Everything else I could at least consider being accurate. (aside from Lloyd/Kratos). Adjusting Mario or the Trainers makes the numbers look worse to me. So, for the most "official" stats, I vote simply adjusting Cloud/Sephiroth vs. Squall/Seifer and leaving everything else alone. At least everyone can agree on that. Moving Mario up 1-2% or something just because we are positive of Link/Mario SFF, though....I just don't think it's significant enough to really warrant doing an adjustment. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
