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#301 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/20/2011 9:04:32 PM | message detail
Cloud is taking one for the home team. He will sacrifice himself to get Link removed.

Cloud died for your sins.
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#302 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:04:36 PM | message detail
Thinking option 2 (No, because Link is the most popular) wins.
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#303 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/20/2011 9:04:39 PM | message detail
"No, I want to see him face Batman" should be an option
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#304 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2011 9:04:58 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #303
"No, I want to see him face Batman" should be an option


Good man.
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#305 | Lopen | Posted 12/20/2011 9:05:09 PM | message detail
It didn't happen for 14 hours, though. It happened for a few hours, then it bridged into ASV trends where Pokemon was naturally stronger. And then into the night where Pokemon was relatively weaker but still stronger than their mornings.

Don't see what's so weird about this! And I disagree with redsox that it "rarely happens." I may be wrong but I'd like stats-- I seem to remember it happening in every lead change ever that wasn't either early in the match or wasn't huge votal swing sweep through (usually during the ASV)
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#306 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/20/2011 9:05:15 PM | message detail
If Link, Cloud, and Mario get the boot, I can actually see a Pokemon entrant like Charizard winning. I'd pick Samus as the favorite, then Snake, and then either Sephiroth or Charizard.
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#307 | creativename | Posted 12/20/2011 9:05:57 PM | message detail
One has to note the absence of the non-VG originating characters option.

Augh. We're never going to have a decent contest again, are we?
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#308 | ZFS | Posted 12/20/2011 9:05:58 PM | message detail
the people have spoken link must go
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#309 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/20/2011 9:06:23 PM | message detail
Lol, this match has better early votals than a bunch of the actual tournament matches.
#310 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:06:37 PM | message detail
Come on, "Maybe", catch up!
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#311 | abdou | Posted 12/20/2011 9:06:40 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
One has to note the absence of the non-VG originating characters option.

Augh. We're never going to have a decent contest again, are we?


can you stop obsessing with that? jesus
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#312 | vcharon | Posted 12/20/2011 9:06:56 PM | message detail
Cloud can't even beat Pokemon, why does he deserve to be gotten rid of again?
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#313 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/20/2011 9:06:58 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
One has to note the absence of the non-VG originating characters option.

Augh. We're never going to have a decent contest again, are we?


Does Bacon even care about that option? It just seems like a stats topic thing
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#314 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/20/2011 9:07:04 PM | message detail
Just get rid of Link.

Mario and Cloud are debatable enough now that the winner of a Link-less bracket isn't certain at all. Could be any of Snake, Cloud, Mario or Samus.

Now is the perfect time for a standard 1v1 (maybe with 12 hour round 1) to settle the questions we've had since the 4-way trainwreck started.
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#315 | XIII_rocks | Posted 12/20/2011 9:07:04 PM | message detail
It depresses me that No will win this, because half the voters don't realise Link has won (almost) every single time...for 9 years
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#316 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/20/2011 9:07:05 PM | message detail

From: abdou | #311
can you stop obsessing with that? jesus


He can get in, too
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#317 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2011 9:07:10 PM | message detail
Not at all, it's the journey, not the destination 10.53% 86
No, it's a popularity contest, and he's the most popular 24.11% 197
Maybe, as long as he gets to face the winner in a bonus battle 17.26% 141
Yes, it ruins the whole contest if he wins every time 13.46% 110
While you're at it, get rid of Cloud, and maybe even Mario 34.64% 283
TOTAL VOTES 817

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#318 | Xuxon | Posted 12/20/2011 9:07:19 PM | message detail
for x-stats, why not just assume Mario/Pokemon SFF and Cloud/Seph = Trainers? Put Mario halfway between his raw value and adjusted based on Cloud/Seph/Trainers and assume Link/Mario SFF = Mario/Pokemon SFF. i don't see the need to think of it in any finer detail than that.
#319 | vcharon | Posted 12/20/2011 9:07:20 PM | message detail
Also, the last option is winning because it's totally the only way to anti-vote FF7 in the poll.
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#320 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/20/2011 9:07:29 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=4574&num=2

The updater is tracking today's poll, I see.
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#321 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/20/2011 9:08:26 PM | message detail
Just as I suspected: removing Link will kill votals even further.
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#322 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/20/2011 9:08:35 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #318
for x-stats, why not just assume Mario/Pokemon SFF and Cloud/Seph = Trainers? Put Mario halfway between his raw value and adjusted based on Cloud/Seph/Trainers and assume Link/Mario SFF = Mario/Pokemon SFF. i don't see the need to think of it in any finer detail than that.


Or we just don't worry about it since the stats for this contest are worse than useless.
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#323 | creativename | Posted 12/20/2011 9:08:39 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #1503
"No, I want to see him face Batman" should be an option


This option would be getting at least 25%, probably more like 30+%, I think.
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#324 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2011 9:08:55 PM | message detail
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#325 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2011 9:09:33 PM | message detail
'whoops'

thought the stats had updated already, too much haste.
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#326 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:10:39 PM | message detail
Don't see what's so weird about this! And I disagree with redsox that it "rarely happens." I may be wrong but I'd like stats-- I seem to remember it happening in every lead change ever that wasn't either early in the match or wasn't huge votal swing sweep through (usually during the ASV)

Don't have any stats, but as far as I can remember, it happens frequently, but rarely more than 1 hour, if that. It's usually not enough to significantly change the trends. And if it does, it's because there is a lot of rallying going on. The reason we get that barrier around 0 is rallying in the first place, so it wouldn't even hurt the argument that Trainers overperformed.

I am still too dismayed and horrified by Cloud/Sephiroth's horrible performance against Link/Ganon and Pokemon to give too much thought to the stats though. I never thought it was possible that Link would get 58%, or higher against C/S and Mario/Bowser.
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#327 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:10:54 PM | message detail
This option would be getting at least 25%, probably more like 30+%, I think.

More overestimation that people want a fictional contest. Outside of this board people probably don't care.
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#328 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:13:07 PM | message detail
After this though, it's clear that video game characters can no longer compete with Link, so bring on the fictional characters. Cloud getting 47% makes Link seem not invicible, 42% makes Link look unbeatable.
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#329 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/20/2011 9:13:11 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #323
This option would be getting at least 25%, probably more like 30+%, I think.


Doubt this. It would probably just confuse most people. The voters have no idea there's even a push to allow characters like Batman in the contests.
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#330 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:13:23 PM | message detail
It'll probably end up splitting about 1/3rd "Keep him", 1/3rd "Bonus match or remove" and 1/3rd "Off with Cloud's head!"
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#331 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:14:30 PM | message detail
I mean, I still can't imagine how Cloud/Sephiroth could do worse on Link/Ganon than Cloud against Link 1v1, which means that Cloud can't even break 42% against Link now. Which is.....ugh.
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#332 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/20/2011 9:14:32 PM | message detail
"No" has 1/3 of the vote right now. This is the best result anyone who follows these things could have hoped for.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
#333 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:14:36 PM | message detail
Damn FFVII and their always winning
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#334 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/20/2011 9:15:03 PM | message detail
Including that last option kinda kills the poll. It doubles as a magnet for contest haters who will vote for the most "anti-contest" option no matter what. This poll should have ended with the first four options.
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#335 | creativename | Posted 12/20/2011 9:15:14 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #1560
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=4574&num=2

The updater is tracking today's poll, I see.


Well it's only tracking the first two, but I'll keep it up until after the poll is done so we can see any trends. Then I'll delete it later.

From: charmander6000 | #1607
This option would be getting at least 25%, probably more like 30+%, I think.

More overestimation that people want a fictional contest. Outside of this board people probably don't care.


You're...kidding right? Casuals would eat that contest up, and the vote totals would definitely be higher.
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#336 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/20/2011 9:15:19 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
I mean, I still can't imagine how Cloud/Sephiroth could do worse on Link/Ganon than Cloud against Link 1v1, which means that Cloud can't even break 42% against Link now. Which is.....ugh.

I thought it was fairly obvious that Link/Ganondorf was stronger than vanilla Link.
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#337 | SuperNiceDog | Posted 12/20/2011 9:15:19 PM | message detail
people want Link in the contest so badly lol.... surprised Link out vote option is not winning.
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#338 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/20/2011 9:15:28 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
After this though, it's clear that video game characters can no longer compete with Link, so bring on the fictional characters. Cloud getting 47% makes Link seem not invicible, 42% makes Link look unbeatable.

If video game characters on a video game site can't beat him, nobody can.
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#339 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2011 9:15:29 PM | message detail
I don't think I ended up posting the Trainers/Cloud chart because my internet was acting up last night, so here are the last two charts of the contest:

Time | Red/Blue | Cloudoth | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 59.17% | 40.83% | 791 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 56.16% | 43.84% | 5264 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 49.91% | 50.09% | 11914 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 46.71% | 53.29% | 6362 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 49.32% | 50.68% | 15553 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 49.99% | 50.01% | 19662 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 50.18% | 49.82% | 4261 | (22:00-24:00)

Time | Mowser | Linkdorf | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 47.37% | 52.63% | 1085 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 44.87% | 55.13% | 5712 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 43.25% | 56.75% | 10817 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 43.43% | 56.57% | 5858 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 41.61% | 58.39% | 13864 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 40.94% | 59.06% | 16187 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 41.96% | 58.04% | 3160 | (22:00-24:00)
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#340 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:16:04 PM | message detail
I thought it was fairly obvious that Link/Ganondorf was stronger than vanilla Link.

Cloud/Sephiroth should be stronger than vanilla Cloud too.
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2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#341 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:17:03 PM | message detail
You're...kidding right? Casuals would eat that contest up, and the vote totals would definitely be higher.

Nope, create a poll asking for what format people want and I guarentee you that fictional characters would flop horribly.
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#342 | XIII_rocks | Posted 12/20/2011 9:17:05 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld posted...
Including that last option kinda kills the poll. It doubles as a magnet for contest haters who will vote for the most "anti-contest" option no matter what. This poll should have ended with the first four options.

Yeah this. Plus it's kind of illogical and shows how out of touch Bacon is with these things. We don't need to see Cloud gone.
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#343 | Ngamer64 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:17:31 PM | message detail
Was just about to say what yo posted. This is a pretty nothing result... when 79% of the site votes "no, I'm not interested in this Contest" beforehand, it's pretty obvious that whatever you set up as the most anti-Contest option is going to win the poll going away.
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#344 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/20/2011 9:17:36 PM | message detail
Eh. There's not really any evidence that they were. None of their results point towards it. I think they were probably the same as Cloud, Link boosted, Mario boosted a lot, Red boosted a LOT.
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#345 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/20/2011 9:17:48 PM | message detail
I mean, I still can't imagine how Cloud/Sephiroth could do worse on Link/Ganon than Cloud against Link 1v1, which means that Cloud can't even break 42% against Link now. Which is.....ugh.

Is it harder to picture than Red/Blue going even with Cloud/Sephiroth? Red/Blue shows that character strength can be radically different in this contest than in a normal character battle.
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#346 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/20/2011 9:18:23 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #341
You're...kidding right? Casuals would eat that contest up, and the vote totals would definitely be higher.

Nope, create a poll asking for what format people want and I guarentee you that fictional characters would flop horribly.


Because everything would get tripled by the "get rid of the contests" final option that Bacon will inevitably include. If you include Fictionals as part of three or four other options with no "negative" poll option, I can easily see it winning.
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#347 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/20/2011 9:18:40 PM | message detail
Yeah. I'd much rather ask people "What contest type do you want?" than this.
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#348 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2011 9:19:17 PM | message detail
The trend chart on Google Docs is fully up to date now as well.
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#349 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2011 9:20:11 PM | message detail
Although this poll at least seems to imply that there will be future Character Battles.
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#350 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/20/2011 9:20:32 PM | message detail
Although a games contest might win, because it'll probably be the only option for games. You know what, why don't we all think of a good poll for this, submit to Bacon, send him some money, beg him for the next 24 hours, paint his house, and see if he uses it?
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