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#1 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/19/2011 9:25:39 AM | message detail
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#2 | Emporer_Kazbar | Posted 12/19/2011 9:26:50 AM | message detail
In other news, it's back down to a 9-vote difference.
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#3 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:27:15 AM | message detail
I'm imagining in Waluigi voice "GANON GONNA WIN, WAHAHAHAHA"
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#4 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:27:17 AM | message detail
Literally laughing because he didn't have to lift a finger.
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#5 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:30:30 AM | message detail
That was a big lead change
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#6 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:30:51 AM | message detail
Stuffing!
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#7 | janembaman | Posted 12/19/2011 9:32:30 AM | message detail
Woke up at morning,Pokemon wins
Gets back from work,Final Fantasy wins

I hate this
#8 | tee316 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:33:42 AM | message detail
Wow Cloud is winning again.
#9 | Master Moltar | Posted 12/19/2011 9:34:03 AM | message detail
best edition
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#10 | spooky96 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:34:25 AM | message detail
By the end trainers will be back on top
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#11 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:35:39 AM | message detail
Looks like Cloud/Sephiroth had enough playing around.

Damn FFVII kiddy vote
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#12 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/19/2011 9:35:42 AM | message detail
#13 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:35:56 AM | message detail
Aw Cloud, let this be close for a while longer
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#14 | XxSoulxX | Posted 12/19/2011 9:39:36 AM | message detail
So HM gets his wish a few years late. Congratulations Ganondorf on a well deserved victory!

(I still think Mario/Bowser is going to win though)
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#15 | janembaman | Posted 12/19/2011 9:40:36 AM | message detail
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Based on previous Pokemon and FF matches,was this comeback expected?
And what about counter-comeback?
#16 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:42:22 AM | message detail
Based on previous Pokemon and FF matches,was this comeback expected?

Technically yes, but I'm still a bit surprised that they pulled it off.

And what about counter-comeback?

It's possible
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#17 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2011 9:43:45 AM | message detail
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Yeah and it's shame that this sorry ass for a contest wasn't given better bracket placings. Cloud on Mario/POkemon Side while Samus and Snake going to Links side would have made it A LOT better.

Except the whole point of the contest was for Cloud/Sephiroth to have a chance against Link. While the bracket could have been made better we can't make changes like that because we didn't know at the time.


Except if Cloud/Seph didn't have the wear-withall to get past Mario, they don't deserve a shot at Link.
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#18 | AnonGE007 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:49:54 AM | message detail
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#19 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 9:51:22 AM | message detail
Charizard is not Obeying. Cloud Used OMNISLASH
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#20 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/19/2011 9:52:12 AM | message detail
It's over.
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#21 | TRE Public Account | Posted 12/19/2011 9:52:23 AM | message detail
Ganondorf winning a contest due to being paired with Link pretty much means he'll never be able to get rid of his leech image.
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#22 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 9:53:22 AM | message detail
Link Vs. Miyamoto

Surely Miyamoto wins that.
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#23 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 9:54:28 AM | message detail

From: TRE Public Account | #021
Ganondorf winning a contest due to being paired with Link pretty much means he'll never be able to get rid of his leech image.


He has been in a Final before so he's got Experience.
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#24 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2011 9:55:02 AM | message detail
Will be interesting to see what, if anything the Trainers will be able to mobilize with the ASV, but the SNV should seal the deal for Clouderoth.
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#25 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/19/2011 9:55:43 AM | message detail
Gotta admit I didn't expect the comeback. If we still had a legit ASV coming up, I'd say Pokemon would have an excellent chance at this. Many schools are already out for Winter Break though. Cloud and Seph are favorites.
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#26 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:55:56 AM | message detail
If this match follows Trainers/Fighters trends, the Trainers are still favourites to win. Depends how big the ASV is today, of course.
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#27 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/19/2011 9:57:23 AM | message detail
To those saying that Mario is for sure stronger than Sephiroth now, are you just ignoring what happened the last time these two met? That's a long way for Seph to fall, even if it's been 6 years.
#28 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/19/2011 9:57:30 AM | message detail
I don't think either rivalry would draw an advantage from the ASV.
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#29 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/19/2011 9:58:17 AM | message detail
Yes, but last contest Seph got easily beaten by Snake, and could barely 55/45 Tifa.
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#30 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/19/2011 10:02:10 AM | message detail

From: TheOneAboveAll | #027
To those saying that Mario is for sure stronger than Sephiroth now, are you just ignoring what happened the last time these two met? That's a long way for Seph to fall, even if it's been 6 years.


Mario isn't "for sure stronger." He'd just be the board favorite if they ever met up, and deservedly so. It's much easier to ignore matches from six and eight years ago than to ignore the beating Snake gave Sephiroth two years ago. Snake won with 53%; it wasn't even close. Unfortunately for FFVII, it seems to have gotten even weaker since then, going from giving Link a respectable challenge to struggling with Pokemon. I might even give Mega Man the nod over Sephiroth at this rate. I don't think he's in that elite N9 tier anymore.
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#31 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 10:06:17 AM | message detail

From: TheOneAboveAll | #027
To those saying that Mario is for sure stronger than Sephiroth now, are you just ignoring what happened the last time these two met? That's a long way for Seph to fall, even if it's been 6 years.




6 years is a LOOONG time.

Mario Also jumped 10% on Crono in just 2 years. Seph would have beaten Solid Snake 55-45 maybe even more back in 06 or whenever that was. And he lost last year.

Mario Seph wouldn't even be close now imo. 55-45 Mario. Cloud/Mario is a different story.

In fact it would be the most epic thing seeing Mario beat Cloud 1v1...then finally people can let that "it came out on Sunshine day" thing go.
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#32 | Xuxon | Posted 12/19/2011 10:07:36 AM | message detail
Mario jumped 10% on Crono in ONE year, actually.
#33 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 10:10:31 AM | message detail | (edited)

From: PartOfYourWorld | #030
Mario isn't "for sure stronger." He'd just be the board favorite if they ever met up, and deservedly so. It's much easier to ignore matches from six and eight years ago than to ignore the beating Snake gave Sephiroth two years ago. Snake won with 53%; it wasn't even close. Unfortunately for FFVII, it seems to have gotten even weaker since then, going from giving Link a respectable challenge to struggling with Pokemon. I might even give Mega Man the nod over Sephiroth at this rate. I don't think he's in that elite N9 tier anymore.


I wouldn't. He's a bottom tier N9. Same with Sonic.Seph is still above those guys.

The problem with MM is he doesn't have any games boosts either. And he is terrible in Europe.
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#34 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 10:09:37 AM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #032
Mario jumped 10% on Crono in ONE year, actually.


That's even worse, and ok Crono declined ridiculously but the same % can be applied to seph but instead of 1 year over 5. It's plausible.
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#35 | Xuxon | Posted 12/19/2011 10:10:29 AM | message detail
Well actually it wasn't 10%. More like 7-8%. But it probably became 10% after 2 years, they just didn't have a direct match then.
#36 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/19/2011 10:10:34 AM | message detail
Predict this "end-game" of a non-Link CB:

Mario
Cloud Strife

Sephiroth
Mega Man

(Bowser/Tifa)
(Auron/Dante)

Vincent Valentine
Ganondorf
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Solid Snake
Samus Aran

Sonic the Hedgehog
(Charizard/Yoshi)

(Crono/Ryu)
(Pikachu/Missingno)

Squall
(Luigi/Zelda)

No one goes perfect through that minefield.
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#37 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/19/2011 10:16:16 AM | message detail
Mario jumping so much in 2005 was due to a site shift and a HUGE Nintendo boost. And Sephiroth still put up 56% on him that year. Mario went from beating Cloud to gettin only 39% on Seph next year. Mario performs very badly against Sephiroth for some reason. He might be better indirectly now, but I would still take Sephiroth over him head-to-head if it came up.
#38 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 10:19:41 AM | message detail | (edited)

From: Kotetsu534 | #036
Predict this "end-game" of a non-Link CB:

Mario
Cloud Strife

Sephiroth
Mega Man

(Bowser/Tifa)
(Auron/Dante)

Vincent Valentine
Ganondorf
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Solid Snake
Samus Aran

Sonic the Hedgehog
(Charizard/Yoshi)

(Crono/Ryu)
(Pikachu/Missingno)

Squall
(Luigi/Zelda)

No one goes perfect through that minefield.


Cloud
Seph
Auron
Ganondorf

Cloud
Auron

Cloud


Samus
Charizard
Crono
Squall

Samus
Crono

Samus


Cloud> Samus.

I don't think we need to see Missingno. in a contest again. It was a joke character that was funny for 1 contest.
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#39 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/19/2011 10:19:38 AM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld posted...
Gotta admit I didn't expect the comeback. If we still had a legit ASV coming up, I'd say Pokemon would have an excellent chance at this. Many schools are already out for Winter Break though. Cloud and Seph are favorites.

I don't know why people are saying this. Basically no schools are out yet.
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#40 | The_Djoker | Posted 12/19/2011 10:20:25 AM | message detail
Who goes to school the week leading up to xmas? I finished uni like 2 weeks ago.
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#41 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/19/2011 10:21:31 AM | message detail
Back when I was at school I just, sorta, stopped going once everything important was done. >.>
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#42 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/19/2011 10:22:32 AM | message detail
Mario
Cloud Strife

Sephiroth
Mega Man

(Bowser/Tifa)
(Auron/Dante)

Vincent Valentine
Ganondorf
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Solid Snake
Samus Aran

Sonic the Hedgehog
(Charizard/Yoshi)

(Crono/Ryu)
(Pikachu/Missingno)

Squall
(Luigi/Zelda)


Cloud
Sephiroth
Auron
Ganondorf
Snake
Sonic
Crono (I think Missingno. has real strength before the jokes even come in but I think Pikachu SFFs it to the ground.
Luigi

Cloud
Auron
Snake
Crono

Cloud
Snake

Cloud (barely, by next year that may be Snake)
#43 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/19/2011 10:23:40 AM | message detail
I finished uni

College=/=school.
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#44 | Haste_2 | Posted 12/19/2011 10:23:47 AM | message detail
Wish I had more time, but I gotta go in a minute....hmmmmm.....

It looks like Cloud/Sephiroth didn't get too many anti-votes, after all (round 1 aside)! Everyone in the Oracle challenge ignored past results simply because they thought Link/Cloud had to be pretty close.... but they were all wrong this time. And I thought I was crazy predicting Link/Ganondorf with 58% in the Oracle Challenge.... (almost all my other predictions WERE crazy, though) Looks like we should have predicted based on the stats, after all!

And, hey, today and yesterday predicts Mario gets about 47% on Link. Hey, what if Mario somehow manages to rSFF Link for the victory because people suddenly realize "hay Mario/Bowser is the better rivalry"? Dream on, Haste...
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#46 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2011 10:30:59 AM | message detail
Mario
Cloud Strife

Sephiroth
Mega Man

(Bowser/Tifa)
(Auron/Dante)

Vincent Valentine
Ganondorf
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Solid Snake
Samus Aran

Sonic the Hedgehog
(Charizard/Yoshi)

(Crono/Ryu)
(Pikachu/Missingno)

Squall
(Luigi/Zelda)

Then Mario and Samus in the finals
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#47 | swordz9 | Posted 12/19/2011 10:31:20 AM | message detail
Red/Blue is making a comeback.
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#48 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/19/2011 10:31:57 AM | message detail
#49 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/19/2011 10:32:24 AM | message detail
It's not even a comeback. Red/Blue are the heavy, heavy favorite right now. It doesn't matter if the ASV is diluted (which it might not be) if they're virtually tied when it happens. Cloud/Seph needed to build a lead. They didn't.
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#50 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2011 10:33:04 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
It's not even a comeback. Red/Blue are the heavy, heavy favorite right now. It doesn't matter if the ASV is diluted (which it might not be) if they're virtually tied when it happens. Cloud/Seph needed to build a lead. They didn't.

Except Cloud/Seph are going to rock the SNV. Pokenerds have no chance
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