Click Here

GameFAQs Contests

Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038

First | Previous | Page 4 of 10 | Next | Last
#151 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:38:15 PM | message detail
So you think Cloud alone is stronger than Mario, yet Cloud paired with the 3rd/4th strongest character is weaker than Mario paired with someone who isn't even in the top 10?
---
:>
Click Here
#152 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/17/2011 8:38:37 PM | message detail
Xuxon | Posted 12/17/2011 11:33:33 PM | message detail | quote
did you just say you expect Cloud/Seph to end up 4th in the stats? how is that even remotely possible with how Link is going to SFF Mario?


If the Trainers/Cloud match was used to do an indirect comparison of Mario to Link, we can bypass the Link/Mario SFF when someone does the adjusted x-stats.
---
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ!
#153 | Xuxon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:38:48 PM | message detail
unadjusted stats from last year say Samus 60-40's Mario. not much SFF? really?
#154 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:39:44 PM | message detail
Mario is terrible against Link. Link will set new records for final match percentage and percentage against Mario if he wins here.
---
:>
#155 | Lopen | Posted 12/17/2011 8:41:14 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #151
So you think Cloud alone is stronger than Mario, yet Cloud paired with the 3rd/4th strongest character is weaker than Mario paired with someone who isn't even in the top 10?


Uh... it's pretty clear that this contest doesn't work that way. Otherwise Cloud would beat Link. Among other results that haven't happened. I'm taking this contest to be more like a series contest with a twist than a character contest, based on how results have gone. Super Mario Bros as a series is really close to Final Fantasy as a series, and would beat FF7 alone, so yeah.
---
No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
#156 | Lopen | Posted 12/17/2011 8:43:06 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #153
unadjusted stats from last year say Samus 60-40's Mario. not much SFF? really?


Really? I didn't think it was that bad. In any case I didn't say there wasn't SFF I was just saying that it's exaggerated. And it is. Especially if you buy the "Samus is stronger indirectly" theory.
---
No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
#157 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:45:40 PM | message detail
This isn't about series unless the trainers are in the match, the end. It's clear some characters really fell off because they had terrible partners, but in general the strongest characters all won because they've always been the strongest characters here.

Characters are in the matches; this is a character battle. It doesn't mean Cloud can beat Link just because Sephiroth is there (I still don't see any logic saying why someone who'd vote Link over Cloud suddenly wouldn't because they see someone else from Cloud's game sitting there).

Link still wins.
Mario still loses to everyone here.

There's no logic to suggest Mario can resist SFF from Link... look at the last contest for your proof. Mario struggled against a Pokemon fueled rally entrant but still ended up with a win, without being able to SFF a Nintendo counterpart very well. He himself was drilled into the ground by Link, scoring his worst 1v1 percentage against him. Link has only looked even more invincible during this contest and has yet to be held under 75%.
---
:>
#158 | pjbasis | Posted 12/17/2011 8:46:24 PM | message detail
Cloud
"Link!"

(Link stops, then looks back over his shoulder at Cloud. Cloud rushes
him, preparing to kill. Link neatly stabs Cloud through the chest
with the Master Sword. He lifts the sword, and Cloud with it, off the ground.)

Link
"Don't... push... your luck..."

(Cloud dangles there for a few moments, then by sheer will alone, brings
himself back to the ground. Link's sword arm begins to tremble. Cloud
reaches up and grasps the sharp edge of the Master Sword.)

Link
"...It can't be!"
---
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png
#159 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/17/2011 8:48:04 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: The upcoming match will fail to break 1000 votes at the freeze.

Given how bad the votals have been, no match in this contest has reached 1000 votes at the freeze. The Trainers in round 1 came the closest to 1000 votes.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=4518&num=2

That was only 946 votes right there.
---
Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
#160 | Lopen | Posted 12/17/2011 8:49:55 PM | message detail
Sephiroth there presumably adds a lot more than Ganondorf, considering Cloud/Seph is a 55-45 match. It'd be silly to assume everyone who would vote for/against Cloud in a given match doesn't flip their vote if Seph's there. So if you think this is a character battle through and through you should expect Cloud to have a good chance.

I'm saying it's a series contest for a lot more than the trainers. Blowouts from the fighting game guys, new pairings doing poorly, Donkey Kong looking respectable. There are a lot of results that make more sense if you think of it as a series contest more than a character contest or even "rivalry factor"
---
No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
#161 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/17/2011 8:50:57 PM | message detail
There's still some that don't make sense.

I, for one, am not taking Phoenix Wright > Half-Life, or Castlevania > Chrono Trigger.
---
Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ.
(Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!)
#162 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:51:14 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat kind of sucked in the series contest, did it not?
---
:>
#163 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:51:45 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat > Resident Evil is never happening either.
---
:>
#164 | Xuxon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:51:52 PM | message detail
MK didn't even make it into the series contest.
#165 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:53:40 PM | message detail | (edited)
It must be MK I recall not doing very well in a games contest. The logic this is a series contest doesn't make much sense to me.
---
:>
#166 | Lopen | Posted 12/17/2011 8:53:39 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat (series) vs Resident Evil 4 in a series contest, though? Yeah I take MK there.

That match makes even less sense if you try and boil it down to characters. Sub-Zero arguably doesn't even beat Leon Kennedy and Scorpion isn't that much stronger than Ada Wong either.
---
No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
#167 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:54:47 PM | message detail
Mortal Kombat as a series wouldn't beat Resident Evil 4 in a poll.
---
:>
#168 | pjbasis | Posted 12/17/2011 8:55:16 PM | message detail
#169 | Lopen | Posted 12/17/2011 8:56:10 PM | message detail
In a series contest it would, though!

And I realize it doesn't make sense to have RE4 in a series contest-- which is the only reason MK wins that.
---
No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
#170 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/17/2011 8:56:15 PM | message detail
Okay, showtime.
---
2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#171 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/17/2011 8:58:18 PM | message detail
Gerudo Valley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0aEj85ifY
Aerith's Theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3gMMQqMVnQ

There's a silkiness to Gerudo Valley that chimes with Link/Ganon's easy victory. Aerith's Theme is obviously appropriate in mourning Cloud/Seph's chances' death.
---
Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ.
(Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!)
#172 | Xuxon | Posted 12/17/2011 8:58:18 PM | message detail
Okay Lopen, how about Portal vs Earthbound? That would be a demolition in a series contest, but Ness broke 40 on account of being the strongest single character in the poll.
#173 | TheOceIot | Posted 12/17/2011 8:58:37 PM | message detail
Speaking of music, here's a version of the Legend of Zelda theme that a few people I know recorded a while back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5RI7CA9Pl4

It's piano and guitar and sounds pretty awesome if you ask me.
---
you just can't live in that negative way...make way for the positive day
#174 | Lopen | Posted 12/17/2011 9:00:13 PM | message detail | (edited)
Ness is stronger than GLaDOS? I'm not sure I buy that.

I also don't buy Portal demolishing Earthbound in a series contest either. Portal's too new to demolish much of anything aside from the most obscure in that format, even if the games are loved.
---
No problem!
This is a cute and pop genocide of love!
#175 | abdou | Posted 12/17/2011 8:59:30 PM | message detail
I have this bad feeling Link will do even better than he does on Cloud 1vs1

this isn't going to be fun
---
...
#176 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 9:00:30 PM | message detail
He will, I'm just going to hope he can stay below 60%.
---
:>
#177 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:16 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 61.54% 24
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 38.46% 15
TOTAL VOTES 39
---
"The great GF...Bahamut."
"...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..."
#178 | paulg235 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:16 PM | message detail
Link vs. Ganondorf 61.54%

16
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 38.46%

10
TOTAL VOTES 26
---
The Gamer In Me
His dark secret is he's really Spark Brushel in disguise. If people knew, he'd be ruined. - Spiral on the black psyche locks
#179 | Some_Character | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:23 PM | message detail
Link vs. Ganondorf 63.64%

14
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 36.36%

8
TOTAL VOTES 22
---
SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo.
BlAcK TuRtLe grabbed the Guru victory, slow but steady.
#180 | tennisboy213 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:25 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 56.14% 32
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 43.86% 25
TOTAL VOTES 57
---
Red vs. Blue what is even special about this. -ZFS
here's a guy that doesn't get it! No desire to be the very best! -SHINE GET 64
#181 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:26 PM | message detail
7th vote, 2nd for Cloud/Seph. Not bad.
---
Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ.
(Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!)
#182 | SuperNiceDog | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:28 PM | message detail
lol link with 62 percent when i voted
---
MMM... cookies
#183 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:32 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 58.18% 32
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 41.82% 23
TOTAL VOTES 55

There's that FFVII super-early vote.
---
2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#184 | spooky96 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:45 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 56.1% 69
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 43.9% 54
TOTAL VOTES 123

Oh no.
---
...
#185 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/17/2011 9:01:49 PM | message detail
#186 | vcharon | Posted 12/17/2011 9:02:20 PM | message detail
Looks like this might be just out of the "maybe they have a shot range" of most of you.
---
:>
#187 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:02:21 PM | message detail
2 perfects, looks like the winner will be perfect this contest
---
BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls
Rivalry Rumble: 117/144 Today: Cloud/Sephiroth
#188 | pjbasis | Posted 12/17/2011 9:02:33 PM | message detail
#189 | Surskit | Posted 12/17/2011 9:02:42 PM | message detail
well it's over

gg all, best contest ever
---
Surskit
.-#Elements of Water#-.
#190 | ZFS | Posted 12/17/2011 9:02:49 PM | message detail
Haha. Link is nearing 60%. This is kind of awesome.
---
"When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it."
#191 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/17/2011 9:02:50 PM | message detail
Also looks like a couple of perfect Battle Challengers picked the Trainers or forgot to make a pick.
---
http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif
#192 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:02:56 PM | message detail
Link now rocketing up with the rest of the first update.
---
2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud.
Link 6, Cloud 2
#193 | CP724 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:01 PM | message detail
yeah cloud needs to get this up to 44% before the freeze to have any kind of chance.
#194 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:04 PM | message detail
#195 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:06 PM | message detail
#196 | paulg235 | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:13 PM | message detail
FINALLY, I make it back onto the leaderboard.
---
The Gamer In Me
His dark secret is he's really Spark Brushel in disguise. If people knew, he'd be ruined. - Spiral on the black psyche locks
#197 | GranzonEx | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:28 PM | message detail
Skyward Sword ladies and gentlemen.
---
Black: 3310-7431-2094
#198 | SuperNiceDog | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:40 PM | message detail
Master sword right into Cloud&Sephy's hearts! boom
---
MMM... cookies
#199 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:52 PM | message detail
Link vs. Ganondorf 60% 261
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 40% 174
TOTAL VOTES 435

And there's that 60%.
---
Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~
Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ!
#200 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/17/2011 9:03:52 PM | message detail
Link vs. Ganondorf 60% 261
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 40% 174
TOTAL VOTES 435
---
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png