GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
From: The_Djoker | #206 "Bruce Lee" "Fictional Character" Also God and Jesus would be ineligible, Vegeta wouldn't, and I even have doubts about Goku (people hate DBZ to this day). I mean, yes, you probably could get 15 non-VG characters stronger than Big Daddy on this website if you tried. But what would adding them really accomplish? --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
 |
In that match, easily, easily the strongest fictional character XFD!!!!!!! Do you think site is full of 8 yr olds or something??? Santa would get stomped by random anime characters. In fact remove santa from my other list dont know y i put him there --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
Again,
people will recognize Batman, and they like Batman, but they won't be
passionate about Batman the way they are about Link and the Zelda
series. Batman's as recognizable as Pac-Man and Mario, but the devotion of his fanbase is between the two. People may like his comics, TV shows, movies, and games, but I really doubt voters will be as passionate about Batman from those forms as they will from a character whose high-quality games they grew up with when voting on a gaming site. I don't see many people caring enough about Batman to vote for him over Mario, let alone Link. Batman may have a chance against the weaker N9ers at best. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Batman The Joker Wolverine Gambit Nightcrawler Homer Simpson Bart Simpson Mickey Mouse Donald Duck Simba Gandalf Aragorn Darth Vader Obi-Wan Kenobi Han Solo Don't see any of them struggling to beat Ness or The Boss or whatever fodderline character you want to pick. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
From: The_Djoker | #153Lol @ link tripling goku/ vegeta. Good one. Theyd be one of tge strongest duos They would have been strong way back in the day. Quite beastly strong probably. But DBZ has been irrelevant for years. They wouldn't be close to one of the strongest non-VG originating duos anymore. Link/Ganon would destroy them. Yes, I do believe that would be a tripling. It would get ugly. Back in the day though, when DBZ was popular and Pokemon hated around here, they probably could have broken 40% on Link/Ganon. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] |
Also God and Jesus would be ineligible they were in some Bible game probably. totally eligible --- For your BlAcK TuRtLe. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
From: Haste_2 | #210 There was very possibly some minor SFF in Mario/Bowser vs. X/Zero. I think it is possible for Ryu/Ken to be stronger than X/Zero however. It's not like that sounds shocking or anything. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Adding
characters that we don't know the strength of adds unpredictability to
the contest. Unpredictable contests are fun. What's the point of
removing Link, since removing him only affects six matches at most? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
I
mean, yes, you probably could get 15 non-VG characters stronger than
Big Daddy on this website if you tried. But what would adding them
really accomplish? Interesting matches???? You have made 0 good points as to why it would be bad. Why the **** you trying to argue against it? Its blatently a logical step forward. Batman v Link would break traffic records. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
Honestly
Batman doesn't have to beat Link to be worth adding. This contest will
probably end in Link 65-35ing Mario but if the matches leading up to it
were unpredictable and awesome nobody would mind. As is this is a Real
Bad contest. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #044 Then he lost to Kerrigan (I think, I don't feel like checking). Gamestop is more casual and PC-oriented. Zelda's strong there, but it's no Half-Life or Starcraft. GameFAQs has a much different demographic, one that focuses more on RPGs and Nintendo games rather than PC games and casual shooters. I kinda doubt Batman would even be the strongest non-VG fictional character here. I think Darth Vader would beat Batman in a poll here, as Darth Vader meshes better with the fantasy/sci-fi-setting bias this site has. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
From: Kotetsu534 | #254 I can certainly see Gambit, Nightcrawler, Simba, and even Aragorn struggling. And that's all I'm really trying to say. You'll have the iconic main characters who do really well (but not well enough, they'd get stomped by Link) but I think Star Wars is really the only franchise where you can really get more than a good main character and good villain from. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
But
DBZ has been irrelevant for years. They wouldn't be close to one of the
strongest non-VG originating duos anymore. Link/Ganon would destroy
them. Yes, I do believe that would be a tripling. It would get ugly. Back in the day though, when DBZ was popular and Pokemon hated around here, they probably could have broken 40% on Link/Ganon. ^ I meant to say strongest anime duo. Dbz has nostalgic factor. They wont break 40 but i doubt they get tripled. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
From: The_Djoker | #260Batman v Link would break traffic records. It wouldn't break traffic records of course. This site is too niche now. But it would be the highest vote drawing match possible of anything 1v1, and would definitely generate traffic externally from GameFAQs, much like L-Block. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Not_Wylvane posted... From: WarThaNemesis2 | #044 I think it's worth pointing out that on GameSpot, The Goddamn Joker beat Ganondorf 55-45. Just because a site has Game in the name does not mean that everyone who goes there lives in a bubble where only video games exist. Then he lost to Kerrigan (I think, I don't feel like checking). Gamestop is more casual and PC-oriented. Zelda's strong there, but it's no Half-Life or Starcraft. GameFAQs has a much different demographic, one that focuses more on RPGs and Nintendo games rather than PC games and casual shooters. I kinda doubt Batman would even be the strongest non-VG fictional character here. I think Darth Vader would beat Batman in a poll here, as Darth Vader meshes better with the fantasy/sci-fi-setting bias this site has. Link would have beaten Gordon before Steam interfered, so don't go pretending Ganon is trash there. Even if Ganondorf is *only* the GameSpot equivalent of our Bowser, that's still damn good. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
I
wouldn't mind making such characters eligible, as long as it remains a
VG contest (or else votals would just be even s***tier than usual), but I
feel that simply having a well-designed bracket is much more important
for having a good contest than just throwing more characters in. Having
more characters won't mean s*** if they're all thrown in matches so
damn obvious that they're simply wasted. Again, s*** like new characters, removing Link, or even just doing no gimmicks are meaningless if the bracket is a f***ing disaster. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Batman's as recognizable as Pac-Man and Mario, but the devotion of his fanbase is between the two. ^ i dont know why people make up stuff. Batman fanbase like pacman?? He has one of the most dedicated fanbases out of any game/comic/movie. Characters out there. You clearly have not been to any comicon events talking about how. Batman fans arent passionate. The dark knight is the ffvii of movies. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
Also,
other clarification: I'm not strictly AGAINST adding fictional
characters, though I'm not for it either. I just don't think it's
necessary for unpredictable matches, and the benefit from removing Link
from the bracket is much greater. Doing both would be nice, but that
negates the off-chance that one of the newcomers would beat Link. I would rather we had a Link-less field where we opened up the field slightly, to characters like Dracula and Robo-Hitler (yes) who are both non-VG and VG-original so we can test the water somewhat. If they do abnormally well (which I doubt, based on this contest) then maybe it's worth it. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
It wouldn't break traffic records of course. This site is too niche now. I meant for gf. Also gamespot contest was alright. Too many pc fanboys though --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
From: Not_Wylvane | #062 If the Starcraft community cared about our contests Kerrigan would win here too. Lol at mentioning PC fanboys. The worst thing about gamefaqs is the ridiculous bias against anything PC. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
From: JJH777 | #071 Likewise, I don't think the Batman community cares about our contests. The majority of Batman's strength would be, surprise, from his games, which are pretty strong here but would make him a high midcarder at best. His outward existence may bump him up a few points to a near-elite or so, but I don't see Bacon allowing non-VG images, so when people see Batman they'll think more of his Arkham Asylum/City presence, which again will make him rather strong but far from a Link-killer. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Yes i agree but it should be between the two. Kerrigan shouldnt be winning contests. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
And Mario/Bowser should be fighting Luigi/Waluigi right now instead of the Trainers because I like the former more. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
From: Not_Wylvane | #072 Ehh I don't really think Batman would beat Link I'm just saying Gamespot contests shouldn't be discounted because of Kerrigan winning. If one of the big members of the community decided the cared about our contests Starcraft has the most easily rallied fanbase in existence. A Starcraft talk show recently got eSports trending on twitter extremely easily. Maybe Kerrigan shouldn't but Starcraft should which is what people were voting for. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
Also
people who think that we need to add fleets of unknown quantities. A
good bracket creates that on it's own. Look at last year. So many
upsets, but not that many new characters. That's what we need. I am still a major proponent of Robo-Hitler however. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
From: JJH777 | #075 I'm just saying there's a slippery slope in arguing about the potential of certain characters here using the contests of another site where the most recent winner was Launchpad F***ing McQuack. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Still
don't understand why people think Goku and Vegeta would get tripled by
Link. The series was re-released, still has video games coming
out(although not exactly the greatest piece of work), nostalgia factor,
anime heavy site. --- - |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... Adding characters that we don't know the strength of adds unpredictability to the contest. Unpredictable contests are fun. I agree, but it's not necessary to add non-VG characters to accomplish that. You could do the same thing by dividing the next 1v1 contest into four brackets by decade, based on when the character debuted: 80s 90s 00s 10s If 1/4th of the bracket was characters from the last two years, who would win? I have no clue. The 00s would be pretty up for grabs too: none of the final 16 from last year debuted in this millennium. |
Really?? So Batman didnt exist before the arkham games?? people relate to batman more than most games. Thats like saying superman would be weak because of superman 64 --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
Division by decade surely you're trolling Also augh having to log into alts to see the topic. --- You saved science! Call me numbers. |
From: The_Djoker | #360 He'd get a Superman 64 pic so it'd probably hurt him, yes. It's still going to be a game character contest, and Batman will be represented by his Arkham Asylum/City appearance. People will think of him from that. Remember, this is GameFAQs. We're talking about game characters still. Also while the site does like it's anime, Goku and Vegeta would get anti-voted to hell. I mean, they probably wouldn't get tripled by Link, but they're both the product of a really polarising series and represented by some widely-disliked games. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Not_Wylvane posted... From: JJH777 | #071 If the Starcraft community cared about our contests Kerrigan would win here too. Likewise, I don't think the Batman community cares about our contests. The majority of Batman's strength would be, surprise, from his games It's not like he's a beloved figure in Western pop culture or anything. --- Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest. |
What a silly argument this is.. This is gamefaqs. Our strongest games are OoT and FFVII and MM won our Game of the Decade. CT is one of our most popular games. This is a very heavy games-oriented site, obviously. VG characters will always be more popular than non-VG ones around here. the strongest non-VG characters would not come close to our NNers. Sure Batman is massively popular in america...but this is freaking GameFAQS not america. People here care more about their GAMES than comic books and movies. Unless you are interested in seeing non-VG fodder vs VG fodder .. --- ... |
There's
a big difference between games themselves and characters. And there's a
big difference between going toe-to-toe with
Link/Cloud/Mario/Snake/Samus and random near-elites like Ryu and Dante.
If you don't think there's any chance that Batman could hang with
near-elites then I really don't know what to say. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Well
what if you're someone like me who spends very little time with
fictional media outside of gaming? I guess I'm more of an aberration
than the norm, but still...I can't see myself caring much for a
fictional character contest, personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mario was the first fictional character I had ever heard of, in fact. So yes, *I* would personally prefer if we simply removed Link instead as opposed to keeping Link and adding loads of non-VG native fictional characters I don't give much of a darn about. The latter idea would most definitely be better for site traffic, though. Argh. I don't want to advocate an idea I don't like. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Kotetsu534 posted... There's a big difference between games themselves and characters. And there's a big difference between going toe-to-toe with Link/Cloud/Mario/Snake/Samus and random near-elites like Ryu and Dante. If you don't think there's any chance that Batman could hang with near-elites then I really don't know what to say. If we do a fictional character contest, Batman should be thrown a gauntlet of near-elites and probably finish off with Samus and/or Mario. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Personally
I think there would be a couple pretty strong non-VG characters, but
most would fall in the midcarder level. I think Link still destroys
everything, and Batman won't change that. If people liked Batman more,
I'd figure they'd buy his games and, you know, make Batman games more
relevant on this site, but they're not. I know characters =!= games, but
it's a good indicative to me. Oh, and I doubt Nightcrawler would be strong. At all. You guys are overrating comic book characters. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
The
average VG character would be stronger than the average non-VG native
character, but I honestly do think we should try out the idea just once. At the very least, who'd you rather see: Danny Tanner and Tim Taylor, or Wander and Yuri Lowell? --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Oh
yeah, I definitely am of the opinion that they should be allowed. They
just won't be as strong as people like creativename think they will be,
is all! And if I'm surprised and Batman defeats Link, then all the
better. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
I
wouldn't pick Batman over any of the Noble Nine, but yeah we should see
non-VG native characters instead of stupid fodder like Sandal and
Ellis. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Here's a little thinker. Compare these polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3888 Deadpool takes 32% of the vote and Nightcrawler takes 19.54%. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3889 Dante takes 27% of the vote and Phoenix Wright takes 19.54%. The thinker? The Deadpool/Nightcrawler poll drew 4k more votes than the Dante/Phoenix one. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
More
or less what I thought: adding characters native to fictional media
outside of gaming would increase votals, while removing Link would
pretty much only satisfy those who want more unpredictability and could
really hurt votals, which may well be the absolute last thing we need. I would still really prefer the latter, personally, but you get the point. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
From: Kotetsu534 | #092 More SFF. The VG characters had more "high" percentages. There are only 3 percentages above 10 in the Marvel poll. There are twice as many in the Capcom one. All these polls demonstrate (imo) is that most of the characters in the Marvel poll are incredibly weak. Drawing votals is nice and it could be used as an argument as to why we need fictional characters in the contest, though! --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-62-1.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-62-2.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-62-3.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-62-4.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-62-5.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/rivals/rivals-62-6.jpg --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Those are pretty good pictures. 1 and 4 especially. --- For your BlAcK TuRtLe. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
That's
my point: higher votals tends to indicate people care more about what's
in the poll. Since most of the Marvel characters didn't pull many
votes, that suggests Deadpool, Nightcrawler and The Punisher are decent
draws. The Capcom poll had Dante, Phoenix Wright, Albert Wesker, Proto
Man and Leon Kennedy all over 10% and didn't compete votals wise. I
wouldn't read too much into it, but it does suggest the site is familiar
with Marvel comic characters. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
I like 3. Not too hot on the others (they're not bad... they just don't grab me). --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Spider-man and Wolverine excepted, Optimus Prime would totally beat all these Marvel characters people keep bringing up. Nightcrawler vs. Optimus Prime sounds like a bad joke. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Yes, Optimus Prime would be pretty beastly in strength. Probably top 10 non-VG. Not_Wylvane posted... The majority of Batman's strength would be, surprise, from his games, Not_sure_if_serious.gif O_o Like less than 2% at most of Batman's strength would come from his games. Come on. Let's try to live in the real world here. Goodness gracious. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
