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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1037
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #397 Well, about the only thing he can do at this point to prevent it is to make him face Cloud or maybe Snake first, and even then, he might win anyway. --- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png |
-Dead- at the people who don't even want a good match. Wow. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
Mario in the finals As It Should Be. --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
The Mana Sword posted... I'd just rather see Mario's contest end with him whipping Cloud and Sephiroth than crushed by Link again! You can still see this imo. I know, but I don't trust this board to not push Link/Ganon to over 60% at the freeze! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #397 Bacon can get smart occasionally. He learns from his mistakes.........slooooooooooooowly. --- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 |
KanzarisKelshen posted... From: WarThaNemesis2 | #397 Do you really trust Bacon to not feed Mario to Link again in a real contest? Really, really trust him? Bacon can get smart occasionally. He learns from his mistakes.........slooooooooooooowly. Tag Teams didn't work...with MALE characters! Male/Female tag team will be better! Mario/Peach vs. Red/Misty who ya got? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
God,
every once in a while this tournament will have a few minutes where I
don't think it is a terrible boring waste of time. And then it will be
like "Nope, this contest sucks and is boring" and stop being
interesting. Like Mario winning here. Couldn't get one damn good upset. --- http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/sihp/waluigi.gif |
I
know it's a bit early to call it, but I think this match confirms that
RBY Pokemon doesn't really get SFF'd at all (except for Zelda, maybe). I
put this down to the series popularity coming almost exclusively from
the Gameboys. Truth be told, there are probably a large percentage of
gamers who owned a gambeoy + pokemon who never bought a Nintendo console
from gamecube onwards. And not to use real life examples as law, but
I'd say this is a large majority of my gamer friends. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
Mario/Peach vs. Red/Misty who ya got? Gotta go Red/Misty. That duo has some sass. --- "Tebow losing is basically the same thing as Christ suffering on the cross." ~SmartMuffin "you are peathice" ~ertyu |
From: KanzarisKelshen | #390 Mario is the Trainers' childhoods even! Or at least Red's. |
KanzarisKelshen posted... From: Team Rocket Elite | #383 It's freaking Mario. It's not the first time a rally against him has failed like this. This. Might surprise you guys, but people really do love Mario. Mario is people's childhoods, even more than the Trainers! Also... From: LeonhartFour | #388 *salutes* *Salutes* *Wholeheartedly salutes* --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
RED is playing the SNES! ...Okay! It's time to go! Edit: Ahhh so much match pic potential wasted!!! --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
So, back on the topic of fictional non-vg characters being let in. In a direct match, Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Ash Ketchum, who ya got? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Red with at least a doubling |
From: Xuxon | #414 This. I'd expect Blue vs. Gary to be more even though! --- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 |
Now I hope Mar-ree-yo and Boozer beat Link and Ganny Even though that has absolutely no chance of happening. --- Nice catch BlAcK TuRtLe. But too bad your ass got SAAAAAAAAAAACKED.*tackles* |
Ah, a quantity versus quality contest. I think the quality is in Red vs. Blue, to be clear. The struggle of somewhat evenly matched masters where one is always faster but the other is always stronger is awesome. Blue is a real jerk. And then Blue makes his Growlithe use roar or ember 3 times in a row and you wonder how he beat all the gyms. |
lol mario's got this guys --- If you believe in Jesus Christ and are 100% proud, put this in your sig. http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3788/ronpaul2012banner.jpg |
From: Team Rocket Elite | #318 Mario, you were trusted with the task of dealing with the poke-menace. Are you going to fail in that task? Master Link will be very displeased... Master Shortpants can deal with the problem himself if he doesn't like Red/Blue winning. =D I KNEW YOU WERE A ROBOT! --- :o |
Honestly,
as much as I'd cheer for the Trainers any other day, this day I'm close
to winning prizes in this contest for the first time ever. If the
bracket goes cookie, I will get a bracket prize, and with the endgame
format, possibly the battle prize as well (or at least go perfect
safely, which would still feel great). At this point, I don't care about
the quality of the matches. I want to win. Though if I had to go out,
this would be a pretty awesome match to do so. --- MMBN style fighting game made by me in the link below! http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/184947-b8bn |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4570®ion=OCE I love my region. Too bad we have literally no pull in these contests. --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
This is embarassing for mowser. Anyhow uf cloud does lose tomorrow at least ill get see the boards reaction to when he stomps trainers too. Would be funny. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
I know this is off-topic from the current match, but I'd like to revisit Cloud/Seph vs. Link/Ganon talk. Regarding my post earlier about Cloud/Sephiroth not living up to what Cloud did against Squal 1v1 in 2K4, I think I made a significant error in not accounting for Cloud weakening (in addition to Squall being stronger which I did mention). So it looks like there might be non-zero team chemistry added by Sephiroth after all. I'd like to compare what Cloud/Seph did to what Link did on Mega Man/Dr. Wily. For simplicity let's assume both Dr. Wily and Seifer are at 20% on Link. And we'll use my adjusted values of 46.46% for Cloud, 42.74% for Sephiroth, 31.50% for Ganon and 37.84% for Mega Man. Using naive "tag team" linear math, plugging those numbers into my linear x-stat estimator this gives us the following results for Cloud vs. Sephiroth/Squall vs. Seifer: bit.ly/rsECeT And for Link vs. Ganondorf/Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily: bit.ly/ts7Lnl Without SFF and "rivalry factor"/"team chemistry", Link/Ganon are expected to get about 63% on Mega Man/Wily. And Cloud/Seph are expected to get about 67% on Squall/Seifer. So Link/Ganon got about 12 points of SFF/rivalry factor against Mega Man/Wily. And Cloud/Seph got about 9 points of SFF/rivalry factor on Squall/Seifer. Since we don't know how much of what each side did is SFF as opposed to rivalry factor, it's hard to compare. But it still seems like Link/Ganon are getting more of a rivalry factor/team chemistry boost relative to the rest of the field than Cloud/Seph are. However it's not as clear-cut as I was saying earlier - Seph does look like he's probably contributing something after all. From: The_Djoker | #552You're comparing 1v1 characters again. pointless. I think you missed my point. My whole thing is that I was talking about team chemistry - I was talking specifically about how the differences from 1v1. However I did err in overlooking that Cloud had weakened and probably wouldn't get 76% on Squall today. Assuming the same SFF ratio as in 2K4, based on my adjusted stats Cloud would probably get about 70% on Squall. From: charmander6000 | #553People should be comparing non-SFF performances like Alucard/Dracula vs. Kratos/Zeus Indeed, that match does make Cloud/Seph look a lot better. They held Kratos/Zeus to 23.22%, while Link held Alucard/Dracula to 22.40%. Now depending on your adjustments Kratos was expected to get between 55%-60% on Alucard in 2010. Kratos has probably declined in strength since then, and we don't know how the Zeus chemistry compares to the Dracula chemistry. But if you hold the two teams equal, then Link/Ganon are expected to get 51.77% on Cloud/Seph. That's not bad, especially since Kratos was actually significantly ahead of Alucard in 2010. Kratos might still beat Alucard, though I think Dracula probably adds more than Zeus. So Cloud/Seph might keep this respectable after all. I now believe the performance against Squall/Seifer wasn't as bad as I originally thought. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
When
the hell did I get up to 25th place and, after the three people that
picked the trainers to win it all and including possible karma/fun
entries, have a shot at a prize? Well then --- "hell yeah I'm a ****ing furry" - Mer http://img.imgcake.com/KKpngat.png |
52% get --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
From: KommunistKoala | #425 literally didn't enter the guru contest --- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK |
geez, Mario is probably gonna end up over 54%, maybe even reach 55 --- http://i42.tinypic.com/11jol1t.gif Oracle Challenge ~ Rank: 10th ~Today's prediction: Mario / Bowser - 53.99% |
I'd
love to see it but Mario's intake probably starts dropping once the day
vote hits. The updates aren't going to go back to the power hour stuff
but I don't see these 55s keeping up either. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Mario
should gain well into the early afternoon, I think. Mario has a great
morning vote. The second half of the match is where he'll start dropping
off. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
So,
I gotta gamble all my battle points on either Cloud/Seph or
Mario/Bowser to have a shot at a prize, as going the vanilla route will
just bury me behind the perfects. Cloud's the correct one to bet on,
right? I'm guessing the iconic Bowser rivalry isn't enough to jump Link
on the Nintendo SFF hierarchy. --- SubDeity wants to vote for Calvin Coolidge. [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
You
would have a better chance betting on Cloud than on Mario. Mario is
expected to have no chance at Link here. I don't expect the Nintendo
hierarchy to change just because it's a different format. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
urgh,
I can't decide if I should go with Cloud tomorrow or not. I'm so
tempted, 'cause if it worked out, I would like... win... but I don't
actually have much faith in it working out. . --- For your BlAcK TuRtLe. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
If you're betting on an upset just to take one, and don't actually think Cloud has a chance, Cloud is the last one I'd bet on. Why? Because it's possible enough people will jump off on Cloud/3rd place that you don't in fact have to bet on Mario to win. Unfortunately you won't be able to see how many drop on third place, but yeah. Also if Cloud does poorly enough against Link you may want to put your money on Trainers > Cloud. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Oh... wait... 3rd place doesn't get a battle pick? How dumb. Well my point about seeing how many drop for Cloud stands. It's unlikely that many go for it but you never know. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
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the 3rd place match was only added recently it would be a bit too much for Bacon to add that and this whole % thing to the battle challenge so close to the end --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
You could go for 1% on the final battle. --- Yes, I laugh at my own jokes http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw3jhxK0NH1ql9v8ao1_400.gif |
I thought the whole third place was to help weed people out. Turns out that's what the percent thing is for. Now knowing that exists I wouldn't take any upsets and go for the 1% (or 5% if you don't estimate many will be ahead of you) range, unless you actually think one will happen. I kinda wish I knew this percent thing existed beforehand. I wouldn't have given up in the middle if I knew I could triple my pointage by nailing a 1% shot. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Yes, the 2010 stats have Kratos getting 59.88% on Alucard. However, I really don't want to be talking about any "team chemistry" boost relating to the Zelda duo because quite frankly, as I mentioned, every team that Link/Ganondorf has faced so far is even worse as far as team synergy is concerned. I wouldn't throw out a Cloud > Link upset yet, no way. That said, I will probably bank on a Link > Cloud result regardless. Oh well. Make me a mock character bracket for me to predict. On a side note, how much % does Mario need here so that we get X > Samus? --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
The
final 'bid' on the last match is really cool. I wish the whole contest
was done like that every round. It would be pretty awesome. --- -_-...-_- ...-_-... Bera:12x Ice/Lit Mage |
Actually I just noticed that if Cloud's rivalry = Link's rivalry, you get Pac-Man's rivalry > Alucard's. NO. All right, Cloud is doomed. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Pac-man likely overperformed due to the pictures the Snakes got. --- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place |
I didn't expected the match to be this close.If only there was a good rally... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
I just want to say something that many people don't get The reason Red was so weak last contest was not because Red is weak and the rivalry helps,it's because more people saw Red as the character from SSBB and not from the actual Pokemon Red/Blue If im not mistaken,the match pics had Red with his SSBB model,and not from the original Pokemon games |
Nope,
Red is just weak. People don't really want to vote for Red by himself
because he's not an interesting character, but Red vs Blue represents
the entire Pokemon franchise (and it helps that Pokemon themselves are
in 99% of the match pics). The majority of Pokemon players care a lot
more about the creatures than the people behind them. --- :> |
Oh
jeez I hadn't noticed the percent pick thing until now. That changes
everything...now I need to figure out what to play for. Going for 1% is a
longshot but necessary if other people are playing it safe. If I lot of
people play it risky (or drop due to not paying attention), though, I
could sneak into a prize spot simply by being careful. --- SubDeity wants to vote for Calvin Coolidge. [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
From: Haste_2 | #854 You know that's actually very interesting, because Solid really is expected to get about 70% on Alucard, or extremely close to it. So the Snakes being worth 70% on Alucard/Dracula might actually be plausible - assuming no melty art or sprites of course! From: LinkMarioSamus | #2202 It would be interesting if someone could post a full set of x-stats for all entrants from the half of the bracket based off Zelda and FF7, based on the assumption that Cloud/Sephiroth=Link/Ganon. With say people from Cloud/Seph's quarter of the bracket being italicized while people from Link/Ganon's quarter are normal font. We could see if setting C/S=L/G would look way off or not, perhaps giving us a hint as to whether C/S will at least be able to keep it close. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
It's
pretty terrible the semi-final matches will be the real finals, both of
them are going to be a hell of a lot closer than Link/Mario. I just
want to see Link drop 70% on Mario and completely ruin that side of the
bracket. --- :> |
Red should benefit more at ASV. |