GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1036
Ok,
if you really think so! I'm getting a better grasp of the lengths
people are willing to go to ignore the obvious, simple, conclusion which
is that Mario isn't quite that strong. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
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Charizard would beat all of those jokes. He would set them on fire and laugh at how utterly terrible they look in the presence of Charizard's awesomeness. --- Oops! I'm breaking the fourth wall! http://imgon.net/di-CFMD.gif |
legitimately would not even be close. --- "I'll tell you Sess' placement in an hour" - l3fty "OK, Ryan f***ing Seacrest" - Sess |
If you ignore the anamoly of Charizard Mario has never showed to be weaker than Snake/Samus. Remember Cloud/Sephiroth didn't drop to Snake/Samus level until last contest. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
What is the difference between Ganon and Ganondorf anyway? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
If you ignore the anamoly of Charizard Mario has never showed to be weaker than Snake/Samus. Remember Cloud/Sephiroth didn't drop to Snake/Samus level until last contest. So the 2010 matches are anomalies because they suggest change happened? Mario not being weaker than Samus/Snake in 2005-7 matters no more than Samus being far stronger in 2004. Also, nobody needs to prove that Mario is weaker than Snake/Samus. That's not possible, especially given the lack of 1v1 24 hour matches we've had in recent years.* What we are looking for is what is most likely. *This fact cuts against Mario too, because the most legitimate contest he's been in since 2005 is the one that best supports Samus/Snake being stronger than him. Are we supposed to give him the benefit of the doubt based on 4-way performances from 2007? Certainly not 2006 or 2008 because he didn't look good in 2008 and he was only in 2 BR matches in 2006. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #405 Ganon is the big pig thing, isn't he? While Ganondorf is the man. --- "With Harry, it's cool. We don't speak a lot and he doesn't care if I smile or if I know who the next team we play is." - Benoit Assou-Ekotto |
From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #405 Dorf is a humanised version of Ganon and only appears in 3 games. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
So he has 2 forms or something like that?He is the same person then? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Link
vs. Everyone isn't what we are looking for. People will just read that
and vote Link. What most people actually mean is Link vs. Anyone. And we
already pretty much saw that. Link would get tripled. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2562 |
If
you want 2010 results look at 63% on Big Boss at night which is
essentially what Mario has been getting on him since 2007. Snake and
Samus got 67% on Fox and Sub-Zero. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
Yes, however the different Links in the different games are reincarnations of each other, not quite the same person. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Link
vs. Everyone isn't what we are looking for. People will just read that
and vote Link. What most people actually mean is Link vs. Anyone. And we
already pretty much saw that. Link would get tripled. But we want Link to win. Seeing Link getting tripled is no fun. If you want 2010 results look at 63% on Big Boss at night which is essentially what Mario has been getting on him since 2007. Snake and Samus got 67% on Fox and Sub-Zero. I'll gladly take 67% on Fox over 63% on Big Boss. Fox is a tad under Kirby, so that lines up quite well with Snake at 53% on Mario. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
red sox 777 posted... Seeing Link getting tripled is no fun. wat --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif |
Fox has never been shown to be close to Kirby, doubling Lloyd is not that impressive. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
Seeing Link getting tripled is no fun. wat Link would destroy a vs. Everyone poll. It isn't specific enough and people will pick Link despite him not being their favourite character --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
i agree link would win. if you wanna see him lose you need to be more specfic and cloud HAS to be in it Link Vs Cloud/Mario/Snake/Crono If you wanna see link lose in a duo poll Link/Tingle Vs Cloud/Seph Not even zelda fanboys will argue with this. 65-35 win for cloud --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
The point was not to see Link lose! --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
Link
would destroy a vs. Everyone poll. It isn't specific enough and people
will pick Link despite him not being their favourite character That's exactly what I said. Link vs. Anyone would be a tripling, at least. |
And Link vs Anyone would be specific enough? The result would be the exact same. --- I think someone is being way, way too sensitive. Do we have to stop saying "You got owned" in order to not offend black people due to slavery? - wg64Z |
From: The Mana Sword | #419 that should always be the point. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
creativename posted... From: red sox 777 | #1707rSFF has 1 match backing it up. Except this is patently false, since Mario looked plain stronger that year or at the very worst her indirect equal. So no. rSFF has literally zero matches backing it up. Including Mario/Samus. Zero/Mega Man --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
That was more random variation than rSFF. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
Fox has never been shown to be close to Kirby, doubling Lloyd is not that impressive. Squall/Sora/Yoshi/Fox He's right up there with Kirby. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Not even zelda fanboys will argue with this. 65-35 win for cloud The people expressing the most confidence in Link's invincibility are the people who don't like him and campaign for him to be removed from the contest. I guess a Cloud win would set back the "remove Link" plans for a few years. It's like a conspiracy to stop Link from winning the future contests he so richly deserves. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
rSFF
makes perfect sense and probably exist. Whether we've yet to see a
match that has been heavily influenced by it is another debate. I would
say that Missingo./Yoshi was rSFF, unless you really think Yoshi is
worth 43% on Sephiroth or whatever it came out to. (Okay, even after
factoring in the bandwagon/rallying we would still get Yoshi being worth
38% on Sephiroth minimum; maybe that's true but I think something else
was in play that match-rSFF.) |
Fox did better than I remembered. Either way this more less makes the trio at roughly the same tier strength, which I think no one has been disagreeing. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
I
really do wish that people stop using pokemon like they were static in
2010. Might as well go with Pikachu wins against Squall easily too. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
That
match is much more the fault of sprite Snake than Pikachu. Indeed I'd
call it 100% the fault of the sprite round, nothing to do with Pokemon
other than they are helped by sprites. And Snake's sprite of course
made a much bigger difference, as it does every single time it is used. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
TheOneAboveAll posted... rSFF makes perfect sense and probably exist. Whether we've yet to see a match that has been heavily influenced by it is another debate. I would say that Missingo./Yoshi was rSFF, unless you really think Yoshi is worth 43% on Sephiroth or whatever it came out to. (Okay, even after factoring in the bandwagon/rallying we would still get Yoshi being worth 38% on Sephiroth minimum; maybe that's true but I think something else was in play that match-rSFF.) Bowser got 40% against a much stronger Sephiroth in 2005, is it really THAT hard to believe Yoshi is around that area too? Especially with how ass Seph has looked the last few years. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
We're really going to use 40% on Sephiroth at face value when only a couple of months later Super Mario only got 43%? With that said 38% isn't too far of what I would predict Yoshi to get (36%) --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
From: red sox 777 | #426 The thing my own confidence in Cloud is based off the format of the contest. Link should be removed. So Should cloud. Link is #1 and Cloud is #2 Who is #3? Snake? Samus? Mario? IT would be far more interesting. Do another tournament of champions where Link/Cloud are in it. In fact remove FFVII/OoT/Link/Cloud from future contests. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
Also
for the people that make pictures,try to put Charizard on Trainers and
put Toon Link or CD-I Link when he is against Cloud all right?We need to
have every advantage possible! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
charmander6000 posted... We're really going to use 40% on Sephiroth at face value when only a couple of months later Super Mario only got 43%? With that said 38% isn't too far of what I would predict Yoshi to get (36%) Well, I think we all understand that the VC matches were a little overrated, but the point still stands that Yoshi isn't too far off Bowser, 38% on Seph makes sense. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
Use Red's Brawl pic and SS Link. Mario and Link need every advantage they can get! --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Don't
really see the point of removing Cloud. Last contest he was at ~52%
against Snake and Samus. Many think Mario > Snake and Samus so they
would see Cloud/Mario as a very debatable match. If you think Cloud will
have continued to drop between early 2010 and whenever we have the next
contest (presumably mid 2012), then there's not much room for him to
still be above Snake and Samus. The problem with Link is that he's never going to lose to other Nintendo and never going to lose to Cloud unless there's an FFVII remake or KH3, which aren't happening for the foreseeable. Snake doesn't have any reason to boost from here on, and even when he went feral in 2008 he still couldn't hang with Link for more than six hours, so you can count him out. Link, meanwhile, has had a new Zelda. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/15/2011 10:36:23 AM | message detail | quote Dunno that Missingno would have done better in a day match. There are more votes in a day match so rallies matter less. And Missingno couldn't replicated the Power Hour in a day match because even though a day match gets much more votes overall, the first hour gets much less, and there isn't such a big surge for Nintendo/Pokemon/Jokes and against FFVII in it either. In a night match, rallies would be most effective between the period of 2:00-9:00 AM. So that's going to be the first 2 hours, or last 3 hours of the match. The day match may have more votes overall, but that is offset by the fact that you can rally at any point in the match. There isn't a single time during a day match that a rally wouldn't be effective at all. The big difference between night matches and day matches are the regional demographics voting at the start of the match. The night match will start out having about 86-90% of the votes from North America, and only about 2% from Europe. The day match will start out having about 75-80% of the votes from North America, but around 15% from Europe. As for the Power Hour in a day match, I haven't really noticed any difference to how it works in a night match. We've seen FFVII get anti-voted badly in a day match, such as Sephiroth's matches against Tifa and Snake. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Cloud doesn't need to be removed. SBAllen could always have Link play the champion of the next contest and whoever wins gets to be the reigning champion and take on the champion of the next contest. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
Man, I'm so disappointed that within a few days I will no longer be in everyone's sig. Even though IIRC the Guru bet is only for 1 month after the contest ends. --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
Two weeks, actually. Some people just don't care about changing their sigs back. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
See,
if Cloud wins this contest, Link can get away with winning the next 5
contests without getting removed. So losing here is actually a long
term strategy to win more contests. Once in a few years Link has to
take a loss to prove that he's not invincible, so that he can win more. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Truthfully Link doesn't need to be removed to get an interesting bracket anyways. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
If he's on his own sure. And KH3 would not boost cloud that much. HE's still popular, whenever a new FF game comes out people go "oh wait whats this FFVII people keep talking about" Sure they don't have the same impact but it's not like he's completely fallen of a cliff like Crono. Despite Link getting Game after game and appearing on Smash...he's only really added about 0.5% per Character contest on Cloud. I want Cloud to appear in more games. The only way he would be able to beat link is if he became a Smash Bros character, that way he do some serious damage. I do not want a FFVII remake because i'm happy OoT being the #1 Game.....for as long as possible --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
This
is different than a straight-up CB. The whole point of this contest was
to see if Cloud and Sephiroth together can beat Link. Regardless of who
wins, Link should be removed from the next normal CB (2010 showed that
no one can beat him) and face the winner of the bracket. There's no
point in having him in a normal bracket. We all know he won't lose. And
if he could, he gets to face the tournament champion in a bonus match
anyways, so we still get to see that. |
Another thing i wanted to say was on the Samus>Mario debate. Samus has looked indirectly stronger than Mario in recent contests because her performances were better...i think indirectly Mario is still 1-2% stronger. Directly he's obviously way more, i'd say up to 57-58 pushing 60 after Other M. Respect vote + Nintendo = Strong. She's also a Female..so Anti Nintendo guys or Halo fanboys can relate to her...a badass robot looking dude or a hot chick in a suit. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
The whole point of this contest was to see if Cloud and Sephiroth together can beat Link. haha, after how bad this contest has been...that is ultimately what this contest was created for. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
Watch Ganondorf beat Sephiroth next contest. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
So as long as the three reasonable perfects have Mario > Red, we're having at least one perfect right <_< because let's face it Mario/Bowser isn't beating Link or Cloud --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
Granzon has Link > Red, though I would be surprised if the other Link or Cloud winner has Mario losing. Still hoping for a Mario > Cloud final. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
