GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1036
It's not direct evidence, but SMB/SSB looks pretty sketchy to me as far as rSFF goes. --- "What's wrong with bootblacking? We like it very much!" This is Yesmar. |
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And
this rSFF debate is really missing the point. You said it: change
happens. Why is it so hard to believe that Samus could be stronger than
Mario again now? That is what the 2010 numbers suggest, there's no
need to hold onto an idea that Mario must be Samus's equal or better and
twist the stats to try to hold onto that. The main issue with that seems to be that people believe Mario would beat Samus directly still. But people believe Mario > Samus directly because he beat her badly last time with SFF. So either way, it's irrelevant. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
red sox 777 posted... Snake was expected to get like 56% on Vincent. Samus got 50.5% on Tifa. Snake was expected to get like 57% on Ganondorf. Samus got 55% on Zelda. Snake beats Samus easily, right? What is that supposed to prove exactly? That strange matches happen? You may as well have just cited Kirby > L-Block > Link for a much stranger result. There are many more matches that are not strange than are strange, that's why we say they are strange. It's supposed to prove that Snake can look decisively stronger than an elite Nintendo character going in and then have his Smash strength sapped to lose 'badly'. If Samus can do it, why couldn't Mario? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
It's
supposed to prove that Snake can look decisively stronger than an elite
Nintendo character going in and then have his Smash strength sapped to
lose 'badly'. If Samus can do it, why couldn't Mario? Good thing I'm not talking about Mario/Snake directly! Don't have to worry about Brawl SFF if we're talking about indirect value. (and hey, Samus/Snake is another candidate for rSFF, though I don't find this one convincing at all) --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: red sox 777 | #1752And this rSFF debate is really missing the point. You said it: change happens. Why is it so hard to believe that Samus could be stronger than Mario again now? That is what the 2010 numbers suggest, there's no need to hold onto an idea that Mario must be Samus's equal or better and twist the stats to try to hold onto that. Yes, change does happen and Samus>Mario indirectly in the future might happen again for all we know, as unlikely as it is given the site trends. But what exactly makes you think the 2010 numbers suggest this? Mario got 58% on Mega Man. I see no reason to believe hyper-Charizard couldn't have matched his Mario performance on Samus. Mario looked no weaker in 2010 than in previous years, outside of being a couple points more susceptible to Link SFF. Which given how chaotic SFF has shown to be doesn't mean much. At worst it's a nebulous area. But you can't say Samus looked indirectly stronger - you can say it looked very inconclusive, but no more. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
This seems like a good time for a FOURPACK OF FEAR! Mario Solid Snake Samus Aran Something Samus Beats No Doubt --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Charizard for that last spot IMO. If Charizard's 46% on Mario is legit, Mario is stronger than Samus, and Pokemon has moved above Metroid on the Nintendo hierarchy, then Zard could theoretically win that! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Last spot goes to something Samus beats no doubt. Then you suggest something that you say could beat Samus. Do you not understand how seeing if people take Samus > Snake > Mario, one of only two possible cases of Samus > Mario indirectly mattering works? --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Throw Sephiroth in against Samus. He probably trolls everyone by winning. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Oh. Yeah, missed the point of the FOURPACK OF FEAR I guess! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Sephiroth in Snake's place is FOURPACK OF FEAR, MK. II, obviously. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Yes,
change does happen and Samus>Mario indirectly in the future might
happen again for all we know, as unlikely as it is given the site
trends. But what exactly makes you think the 2010 numbers suggest this? Mario got 58% on Mega Man. I see no reason to believe hyper-Charizard couldn't have matched his Mario performance on Samus. Mario looked no weaker in 2010 than in previous years, outside of being a couple points more susceptible to Link SFF. Which given how chaotic SFF has shown to be doesn't mean much. At worst it's a nebulous area. But you can't say Samus looked indirectly stronger - you can say it looked very inconclusive, but no more. Let's compare: Mario got 63% on Big Boss, 58% on Megaman, 54% on Charizard, and 35% on Link. Samus got 67% on Sub-Zero, 64% on Zelda, and 47% on Cloud. The worst performance here is the 54% on Charizard. We say Charizard was bandwagoned or whatever, but where's the evidence for that? It seems unlikely to me he was more than 5 points stronger than his level in the first 3 rounds, prior to HG/SS and a possible bandwagon. It's possible (unlikely IMO) that Charizard boosted more than that, but even so this match makes Mario look worse, because even his best case scenario provides no evidence that positively supports him being at Samus's level- the best case would just be lack of evidence against. The best performance here is the 47% on Cloud. This is 2 points higher than Mario has ever obtained on Sephiroth, so 5-6 points higher than Mario has ever been worth on Cloud since 2003. FFVII has gotten a lot weaker since the last time Mario met Sephiroth of course. On the other hand, 2005-7 were banner years for Mario and Nintendo, and they've gotten weaker too. Mario got 58% on Megaman- Samus got 61% on Megaman the last time they met. Granted, it was a 4-way. But Mario also clearly got SFF against Megaman, so this match really doesn't say much either way. Now: Link. Mario being more susceptible to SFF from a substantially weaker Link, the weakest Link we have had since 2003, and possibly weaker than that Link, is alarming. If, as speculated, Mario has truly gone from 40% or lower on Link to 45%, he ought to improve. 10 points of SFF in Link/Mario is not believable to me when Link has never shown the ability to dish out anywhere near that much SFF against Mario before (Battle Royale excepted for obvious reasons). --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Mario Snake Samus Sephiroth Sounds good. EC and the Samus > Sephiroth people finally gets the match they've waited 7 years for. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Third-Place Battle: ??? X ??? http://www.gamefaqs.com/contribute/submit_contest_image.php Sounds like we are most likely getting Trainers vs. Cloud/Sephiroth based off of that. I already posted a separate topic about this, but I figure it couldn't hurt to make a post in here about this. At least the match pic makers will have a good amount of time to create match pictures for this bonus match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Thats a really crappy and pointless bonus match. What a waste. Really wanted the batman/joker v linknan Also dissapointing from linknan. Expected them to get ovet 80. Either way getting to see alucard being stomped is good. They deserve it after their recent troll matches --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/61350515 Based on that topic, very few people actually want to have Link/Ganondorf vs. Batman/The Joker. Leon sums up his reasons against that idea in this post: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/61350515/683079146 --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
We really need the Link vs Everyone someone suggested a few years ago. I think I remember someone even made a match pic for it? --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
But
its not 1v1. If batman wins or get great % it means they can compete
and it would make fir a better contest with these characters. They are
universally known and respected. Something you CANNOT say about most of
the characters in the contest. There is no way link stomps batman. Thats
crazy. Batman is more popular than most vg characters even on this
site. People just dont understand that Anyway if mario stomps pokemon. Then that 3rd place match becomes a borefest. Surely allen could have done something different. Lazy match imo. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
We really need the Link vs Everyone someone suggested a few years ago. I think I remember someone even made a match pic for it? Everyone as in who? Link would lose if you had link vs cloud /snake /mario Dont need everyone --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
Based
on that topic, very few people actually want to have Link/Ganondorf vs.
Batman/The Joker. Leon sums up his reasons against that idea in this
post: I dong care what the board says too many pokemon fanboys on this board. The match would have broke the sites votal record for this contest --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
I still think Link/Cloud has a chance to set the votal record for this contest. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I
was mistaken about using Batman/Joker this early. Those two should be
saved for an actual contest. I still wouldn't mind seeing Link/Ganondorf
take on another fictional duo, though. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
My vote goes for Winner v. Bond / Trevelyan. Don't think voting is how this works though. --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
A
3rd place match sounds right,or at least the winner vs God/Satan.Now
for the previous match we lost some perfects.Now for battlers the last
we shall lose will be in Cloud/Link.I am sure that for Mario/Trainers
all will go with Mario. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Link/Ganondorf vs. The Legend of Zelda/Final Fantasy or better still Link/Ganondorf vs. GameFAQs/Gamespot --- http://www.megaupload.com/?d=77WDL08B |
This
match is clearly proof that Dracula is weighing Alucard down (this is
sarcastic, but the rest isn't). Fictional characters would be incredibly
weak, and Batman would be lucky if he wasn't doubled by Link. The
voters recognize Batman, and they make like Batman, but they aren't
going to be passionate about Batman the way they are about Link. Plus, a Fictional Contest would invite all sorts of joke characters. Would you really like to see 4chan do nomination rallies for characters like Launchpad? Even if 4chan's too weak to actually get these characters to win, they probably have enough strength, especially with so few nominations now, to get a lot of joke characters into the contest. From: red sox 777 | #341 Missingno vs Charizard, who would you pick? From: Xcarvenger | #375 Gamespot would be a worse anchor than Waluigi. On the bright side, it'd be our first 90% in a long time. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IV (FF2US) http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3445328 |
Songoku and Naruto will have power I believe though. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
How about Goku/Vegeta rivaly as a bonus match? --- ... |
The_Djoker posted... Thats a really crappy and pointless bonus match. What a waste. Really wanted the batman/joker v linknan No. Link/Winner should have a bonus round the day after the contest. Not_Wylvane posted... Missingno vs Charizard, who would you pick? Indirectly they probably have similar strength. Charizard would probably SFF missingno, but I don't think it'd be a blowout! --- "I am riding the Poke-wave, using the metaphorical Surf and hopping on my Blastoise, all the way to Mario vs Bowser." - RPGLord |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #372 I'm still trying to figure out how anyone thought a fictional all-media battle on a site dealing with one media type could possibly be a good idea. I've heard a lot of "contest saving ideas" proposed by users in this thread down through the years and I'll say that Fictional joins "All-Female" and "Tag Team" as the three worst. --- Smurf The cream of Sonic Fanboyism. I liked smurf until he declared me worst user on board 8 - the jp |
Just
a minute.If you have characters that have appeared in video games then
we can have Batman,Spiderman,Songoku and others.That will work I
believe. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
IMO
we just need a 128, 12h 1vs1, no era game contest before we go
desperate with gimmick like a bracket with non vg-characters. If we can
have the former, i would be fine with the latter. --- Explicit Content made me look like Solid Snake in the sprite round. |
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IMO we just need a 128, 12h 1vs1, no era game contest before we go desperate with gimmick like a bracket with non vg-characters Id be ok with IF we remove oot and ffvii The debate on the #3 game is a big one. Id say these games are very close in strength Red/blue Mario64 Chronotrigger Lttp zelda Ffx Smash bros brawl/melee Majoras mask Super mario world Super mario bros 3 Might be more. Im not saying equal but you would have very close matches between them Who wouldnt love to see smb3 against 64?? --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
I
agree, a good game bracket would have a really high potential because
there is a big range of high-tier games and the ssf chain is not clear
yet. Heck, even THIS contest would have had potential if it wasn't full of sff snoozefests and matches with an obvious winner. The horrible bracket (aside from the alucard division, which was nice) has ruined all the fun. And aside from rivalries, a bracket with samus,snake, mario and sephiroth going against each other would be amazing. --- Explicit Content made me look like Solid Snake in the sprite round. |
Did someone say Link vs. Everyone? http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Bonus-1.png --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
I like it. --- *huggles* |
I
don't like how Sonic and mario stand out, if had to vote on that pic
really quickly without knowing WTF was what i'd vote for link. Everyone
vs Link is a good idea you need to have a good Cloud pic in there
somewhere. http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
i'd vote for link. mission accomplished --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
Can TWEWY get stronger for the next contest? KH3DS scan: http://kh13.com/zenphoto/albums/articles/weekly-sh-nen-jump/january-2-2012/1323949349-2011121520410000.jpg --- *huggles* |
Missingno vs Charizard, who would you pick? Missingno. And if the strongest Missingno (what we saw against Seph) and the strongest Charizard (against Mario) are equal, Snake beats Mario with 53%.* *Seph would have gone up in the remaining 12 hours more against a joke than Snake. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Link would so beat Everyone. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
And Seph would have gone up against Snake if he got his night hours, same with Mario going up against Charizard. Not to mention Missingno in a day match would have been much much stronger than it was against Sephiroth. The rallies going to sleep is what got it killed. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Charizard vs Missingo, this match will be won by Charizard even though Missingno's performance was better. --- ... |
Key word is "more." Not much percentage in those movements either way. 53% on Mario for Snake sounds good to me, and so I'll take the Missingno/Charizard comparison. That would give Samus 52% on Mario. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Dunno
that Missingno would have done better in a day match. There are more
votes in a day match so rallies matter less. And Missingno couldn't
replicated the Power Hour in a day match because even though a day match
gets much more votes overall, the first hour gets much less, and there
isn't such a big surge for Nintendo/Pokemon/Jokes and against FFVII in
it either. Interestingly enough, Bowser/Charizard got 6000 more votes than Mario/Charizard. That suggests Charizard did not get bandwagoned between those matches, though perhaps he was already getting extra support in the Bowser match. Not conclusive either way, but Mario only being at 58% on Bowser as the Charizard matches is sort of strange as he's always been above that. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
On
another note, Link held up VERY well overnight. If he ends above 77%
or even 78% here, that's quite an impressive performance and the most my
faith in Cloud/Seph has been shaken all contest. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
XD at thinking Missingno has a chance against Charizard --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
Which of the following do you take Charizard over? Mega Man Crono Sonic Vincent Squall Tifa Auron If you think Charizard is better than Missingno's performance on Sephiroth (and arguably the Crono performance too), your answer had better be all of them. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Well
considering we're going by what Charizard got on Mario as canon then
yes he would defeat all of them, it wouldn't be debated. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
