GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1036
This is really gonna fudge up a lot of Brackets. I wonder how many perfects picked Trainers here... We're also gonna see quite a few Battle picks die. Eh, those 61 perfect battlers ain't stupid if they got to this point. I'm expecting we'll lose 1 or 2 at the most. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/2bigwigpngut.png |
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From: White_Tiger | #148 he won't win with ease. 52%. max. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
Link/Cloud was interesting in 2004 as much as we all like to think of it as the start of THE LAW. --- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/alecjpguz.jpg |
Link/Cloud
was fairly interesting in 2005 as well, before we really had a firm
grasp of trends. Cloud actually took the lead on Link overnight that
year (He even got up to 51% at one point) before the day vote just wiped
him out. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
From: Bigwig_rah | #151 Damn right. --- http://i46.tinypic.com/301k70h.gif |
Oh
hey look Samus is going to end up dragging Ridley to respectableness.
Once you factor in SFF this is looking real good for her. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
The closer this thing gets to 60% the less I'm thinking there's any SFF in this match at all. --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
From: LeonhartFour | #157 Yeah, this. There's probably very little SFF going on here, if any. In the Nintendo fanbase, it's hard to get any more far apart than the Metroid and Pokémon fanbases. Factor in the obligatory Pokémon anti-votes and I'm pretty sure this just means Samley and Fighters were about the same level of strength. --- Surskit .-#Elements of Water#-. |
It seems that the Trainers will end above 60% just like with Fighters.That isn't good for their match with Mario... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
And if you're trying to say that there is
SFF in this match, that actually makes the Trainers look bad. The
closer the Bosses get to the Trainers, the worse they will look relative
to Cloud unless you think Bosses > Snakes. --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
The closer the Bosses get to the Trainers, the worse they will look relative to Cloud unless you think Bosses > Snakes. I can get behind this. --- I wish I could wear skirts and dresses :( -GMUN |
Hey, I'm all for it, too! I just wouldn't expect it to happen! --- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png |
This turning out Link > Cloud > Mario >>> Everything Else is pretty reasonable. And all good people would want Bosses > Snakes, and if the match happened I would totally throw away another Guest Crew Match arguing it because of Liquid being trash. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Well, yeah, it's pretty reasonable. But it doesn't look good if you want to project the Trainers' success going beyond this match. --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
Sure it does, if you project their success as lacking! --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Yeah,
the Trainers look pretty done at this point. Their best hope is that
Mario/MMX had a lot of SFF, but if that's the case, the Mario can
probably win the SFF battle against the Trainers too. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
damn. that's quite the % bleed. Oh well. --- Official ~Trendsetter~ of Board 8 |
there's a cut, only 7000 votes to go Samus. You got this. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png http://i.imgur.com/597oi.png |
Let's say Bosses=Snakes right now. What do Trainers get on Cloud/Seph? --- *huggles* |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/14/2011 2:07:00 PM | message detail | quote there's a cut, only 7000 votes to go Samus. You got this. There was actually a cut in the early morning, so this is only the second cut of the match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
From: BK_Sheikah00 | #169 if Bosses = Snakes, and there's no SFF in this match, and the day vote brings Pokemon back up some, then Trainers win about 53-47. probably only the third one is true, though. |
BK_Sheikah00 posted... Let's say Bosses=Snakes right now. What do Trainers get on Cloud/Seph? lol --- Game of the Decade? More like Guru of the Decade mirite? |
Man
I really wanted to put my perfect battle bracket on the trainers next
round, but not feeling it so much after the last two matches. Do we have any reasonable guess as to how many of the remaining perfects are prize eligible? --- Inter-planetary-mega-stellar-hydro-static. There's no gravity between us. Our love is automatic. |
Oh
boy, another Link match tonight. Link matches always make the contest
more interesting, and we badly need that in this contest. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Bosses close in strength to the Snakes I like it --- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." |
Let's just get the next 2 days over with. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
I
wonder if Mario team could beat Zelda team in a match where it was
between every character in the franchise. Link beats Mario pretty
resoundingly, but I expect Mario / Bowser to put up slightly better
numbers against Link / Ganon. Then it'd follow that Mario Luigi Bowser
Yoshi Peach Toad Wario etc could improve versus Link Ganon Zelda Epona
etc. Mario team's deeper roster of characters might tip the scales. Would make a terrible contest, but a decent bonus match at least. --- "Ovelia ... SPOILERS IN THE KEYWORDS WOOPS" - Vormav |
From: LeonhartFour | #157 there is SFF...but not all SFF has to be a blowout. SFF = same fanbase factor. There are thousands of people who are both fans of metroid and pokemon. Some might side pokemon some might side Metroid. I think you're right pokemon rivals is just stronger in base strength but there is an overlap maybe 2-3% in favour of pokemon. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
You can't say for sure, but if you think there is SFF it just makes the trainers look worse --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/104 Today: Samus/Ridley |
From: charmander6000 | #180 And? Trainers aren't going to win the damn thing, they aren't supposed to look like contenders. 61% on fighters and 60% On samus isn't Clinkerothio level. Trainers have succeeded everyones expectations. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
From: spooky96 | #149 History has shown the average gamefaqs voter will see the poll as -> Link -> Not Link It really doesn't matter what the "Not Link" entity is, nor does anything in this contest say squat for Ganon. --- Smurf, the cream of Sonic fanboyism |
Link vs Everyone bonus poll please so we can see if that is really true. --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
I'd
have a pretty good laugh if Link wins the final two matches in this
rivalry format even worse than he would in 1v1. It's plausible that he
could get 54% on Cloud/Seph, but shooting for 65% on Mario/Bowser is
quite a tall order. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Confirm/Deny:
Link is the strongest/most popular video game character not only
GameFAQs, but throughout the online gaming community. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Easy confirm. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/104 Today: Samus/Ridley |
From: The_Djoker | #179 Well, every match has overlap of some kind. Even a match between characters like Tidus and Solid Snake has some people who really like both (like me). SFF is just used to describe a performance that's disproportionate to what it would be expected to be indirectly. As for me, I thought the Fighters had a great chance of beating Samus/Ridley anyway, so I'm not seeing much of a case for disproportionate overlap. Of course, I could be wrong, but either way, it's nothing significant. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
I'd
have a pretty good laugh if Link wins the final two matches in this
rivalry format even worse than he would in 1v1. It's plausible that he
could get 54% on Cloud/Seph, but shooting for 65% on Mario/Bowser is
quite a tall order. I really doubt he'll get either of those. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: __Smurf__ | #184 So why didn't Links awakening win Best game ever then? IF they just saw Link in the title. Link is popular no doubt..but you#'re acting like he doubles Cloud or something. HE wins close matches. Comfortably...but still close. Here's the reason why I think this match isn;t a forgone conclusion. I've been pretty loud in my posts when this has come up...i firmly believe Cloud will either upset Link or lose by a very small margin. I cannot see Link just blowing cloud away like people are predicting. The contest so far as thrown about a few surprises, not in terms of upsets but in terms of actual strength. While Link/Ganondorf have looked good i would argue Cloud has looked better..but ignore those matches for now. Link vs Ganondorf. Link Now Link Vs Ganondorf....is it a stronger combination than Link on his own? We don't know, i would say "barely" What we do know is Samus>>>>>>>>>Samus/Ridley. So an individual Character can either be Stronger or "weaker" than her rival duo. Pookemon Trainers being the example. Now Ganondorf is popular on his own but he's about high tier Midcarder at best. Couldn't even beat MasterChief in one contest, truly abysmal. Link probably 80%-20% Ganon 1v1 incuding SFF. All these factors combined would suggest Link/Ganon are strong, but how strong are they? I sayabout the same strength as Link. "but they completely destroyed Megaman" Yes but It was Megaman and some guy called wily(i don't play MM sorry but i'm not the only one) Now we look at Clouderoth. There is no denying in terms of individual Strength Cloud is #2, Seph is about #4-5 still leaps and bounds stronger than most people. In terms of Opposite Rivalry Characters in this contest...there is no equal. Seph is head and shoulders above everyone, we can all agree on that. Now Individually they are strong, Together they are strong(66% on Snakes is imo the best performance in this contest). As a rivalry they are decent, but the characters together on screen is pretty much the entire FFVII fanbase right there..almost. If we factor in 1v1, Link beats Cloud 53.5 - 46.5 1v1(maybe 54-46 now due to sS) Noone on this site except Cloud would get more than 45% on Link. That's a fact. Now we factor in - Rivalry - Series Popularity - Game popularity - Rival Popularity. Rivalry..about the same imo. Hero/Villain Series popularity...Zelda wins..but not by much. it was 51-49 it's probably 52-48 now Game...FFVII lost to OoT but again..close. only a few % in it. Rival popularity...now here' is the KEY part. Seph absolutely destroys Ganon. IT's not even close. 60%+ probably. Seph boosts this rivalry more than Ganondorf. Way more. To the point where Link isn't going to 54-46 Cloud...i would say enough to win or make this match very very interesting. My point is this. And the reason why i have Cloud/Link as an upset and the reason why I believe it can happen. I believe the rivalry factor..the fact that it's 2 people vs 2 people will have a big part to play in this matchup and i believe with seph in there with him...Cloud....will....win. Again...all for nothing nothing for all. WE can't assume everything to be straight forward in this contest. It's not a regular contest. --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/458080-bigthumbnail.jpg |
From: The_Djoker | #191 now this is an idea I can get behind! --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Seph
boosts this rivalry more than Ganondorf. Way more. To the point where
Link isn't going to 54-46 Cloud...i would say enough to win or make this
match very very interesting. My point is this. And the reason why i have Cloud/Link as an upset and the reason why I believe it can happen. I believe the rivalry factor..the fact that it's 2 people vs 2 people will have a big part to play in this matchup and i believe with seph in there with him...Cloud....will....win. Again...all for nothing nothing for all. WE can't assume everything to be straight forward in this contest. It's not a regular contest. The characters themselves don't matter, neither does the rivalry. This is basically a games contest: Zelda versus Final Fantasy 7. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/2bigwigpngut.png |
this contest has basically been an example of "where do the characters get their strength?" so Cloud/Sephy vs Solid/Liquid was like FF7 vs MGS1 - and if you plug that in with the stats, it ended about 1% lower, well within the range of error there have been obvious flukes, but by and large this has really had nothing to do with the characters themselves --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Good
post, Djoker. I'll go even further: Cloud/Seph have a better chance of
winning with 55%+ than Link/Ganon do. Of course, there's a very very
low chance of either of them posting 55%. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: The_Djoker | #191 If anyone actually got that I would agree. Cloud/Seph got 62%, which might be the best performance, but it isn't obviously better than Link's performances. |
Link's
tripling of another Nobler Niner is easily the strongest performance of
the contest. Holding Link and Cloud's teams equal, that performance
indicates that The Snakes would more than double Mega Man and
Wily, which is bonkers because they could barely do that to Pac-Man. All
the SFF in the world doesn't account for that difference. --- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
The same amount of SFF as in Mario/Samus or Link/Sonic, would account for that difference. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
You're right, it absolutely would. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Only 8 possible outcomes remain. SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Mario > Link --> Not happening. SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Mario SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Mario > Cloud SEMIFINALS: Mario > Pokemon, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Mario SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Pokemon > Link --> Not happening. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Link > Cloud ; FINAL: Link > Pokemon SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Pokemon > Cloud --> Not happening. SEMIFINALS: Pokemon > Mario, Cloud > Link ; FINAL: Cloud > Pokemon --- GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money. http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif |
