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#51 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:14:58 PM | message detail | (edited)
Yeah, Samus/Ridley are going to end up looking respectable after factoring in SFF. Trainers are going to be falling until the morning vote, and might fall the entire rest of the match.
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#52 | charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:14:20 PM | message detail
Donkey Kong vs. K. Rool – 22.40%
Kirby vs. Meta Knight – 22.24%


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#53 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:16:18 PM | message detail
Second Quarter Stats

Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue – 50.00%
Ryu vs. Ken Masters – 39.96%
Samus Aran vs. Ridley – 32.29%
Big Boss vs. The Boss – 30.05%
Fox McCloud vs. Wolf O’Donnell – 27.99%
Chris Redfield vs. Albert Wesker – 26.08%
Terra Branford vs. Kefka Palazzo – 25.32%
Tidus vs. Jecht – 24.26%
Jim Raynor vs. Sarah Kerrigan – 23.08%
Luigi vs. Waluigi – 22.04%
Yuna vs. Seymour Guado – 21.87%
Cecil Harvey vs. Golbez – 19.71%
Ratchet vs. Dr. Nefarious – 14.68%
The Kid vs. The Guy – 12.50%
Dan Hibiki vs. Sagat – 10.84%
Vyse vs. Galcian – 10.80%

Based off of the first five minutes because it's more amusing.
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#54 | izNotPerfect | Posted 12/13/2011 9:16:30 PM | message detail
Trainers wouldn't even beat Mario if they got 65% here.

Mario is one of the three or four who beat Trainers by default.
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#55 | ffmasterjose | Posted 12/13/2011 9:16:42 PM | message detail
SAVE_US.TRAINERS

if this holds this Contest will have redeemed itself. Totally hoping for a Trainers overall win. C'mon, these two have been rivals since birth.
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#56 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/13/2011 9:17:57 PM | message detail
ffmasterjose posted...
SAVE_US.TRAINERS

if this holds this Contest will have redeemed itself. Totally hoping for a Trainers overall win. C'mon, these two have been rivals since birth.


So have Mario and Bowser!

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#57 | jacko_vdz | Posted 12/13/2011 9:23:22 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld posted...
Dammit, terrible start. I wanted over 70% at the freeze.

I don't think this is that bad for the trainers. I really don't think there is that much SFF overlap between Metroid and Pokemon as one might initially think. Sure, they're both Nintendo, but Metroid/Pokemon are pretty damn contrasting as entrants.
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#58 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2011 9:24:23 PM | message detail
"Almost doubling Samus"
"Bad performance"

My, how times change.
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#59 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:25:11 PM | message detail
This performance isn't really inspiring me after Mario's.
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#60 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:25:34 PM | message detail
Sounds like yo's expectations were too high to me!
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#61 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:25:43 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
"Almost doubling Samus"
"Bad performance"

My, how times change.


Relative to the semi-finalists, failing to double Ridley when helped by SFF *is* bad. People really, really want to believe Link/Cloud isn't the only worthwhile match left.
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#62 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2011 9:25:56 PM | message detail
By the way, I don't buy that there's a bandwagon now or has ever been one. Red/Blue have crushed every round. None of their matches have been close or in doubt. You don't start bandwagons from that.
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#63 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:27:49 PM | message detail
You don't really get bandwagons without pulling off an upset (or at least something perceived to be an upset by a large chunk of the site). Look at every character we've perceived to get a bandwagon in these contests.

If you want to point out one of them that didn't get an upset at some point during their run, feel free.
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#64 | XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2011 9:28:48 PM | message detail
Man I decided to go big on the trainers with my oracle...and they exceeded my expectations by some distance. Damn. Damn!
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#65 | LOLContests | Posted 12/13/2011 9:29:01 PM | message detail
By the way, I don't buy that there's a bandwagon now or has ever been one. Red/Blue have crushed every round. None of their matches have been close or in doubt. You don't start bandwagons from that.

I agree. None of Red/Blue's matches have been upsets in terms of current consensus, and their match last round probably wasn't even a bracket upset. They most likely have a decent amount of support in regards in beating Samus as well. This isn't Charizard with less than 10% predicting him to make it this far.
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#66 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:29:29 PM | message detail
This match could be the catalyst of a bandwagon next round. And we are really really starved for upsets right now. If they do manage to pull it off against Mario, I'd expect a sizable bandwagon in the final against the tyrants who have ruled this site forever.
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#67 | KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2011 9:29:57 PM | message detail
If they beat Mario, yeah, a bandwagon probably forms.

Before that, there won't be one, and they won't beat Mario.
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#68 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:30:15 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #066
If they do manage to pull it off against Mario, I'd expect a sizable bandwagon in the final against the tyrants who have ruled this site forever.


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Only someone outside of the LAW could defeat it.
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#69 | Surskit | Posted 12/13/2011 9:30:18 PM | message detail
Dan Hibiki vs. Sagat – 10.84%
Vyse vs. Galcian – 10.80%

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#70 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:30:22 PM | message detail
Link will divulge some of his poll mastering secrets to Mario to ensure the Poke-menace is dealt with.
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#71 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:32:49 PM | message detail
Citizens who are under the LAW do not defeat the LAW.

Only someone outside of the LAW could defeat it.


Link's writ runs really thin when it comes to Pokemon. It's the Wild West out there, and we've never seen Link/LoZ exercise SFF power over Pokemon, only LFF.
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#72 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:33:15 PM | message detail
#73 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:33:48 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #071
Link's writ runs really thin when it comes to Pokemon. It's the Wild West out there, and we've never seen Link/LoZ exercise SFF power over Pokemon, only LFF.


And yet R/B/Y never managed more than 36-37% on OoT at any one time.
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#74 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 12/13/2011 9:34:50 PM | message detail
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Heh, if Samus keeps this up she might finish above Ryu/Ken.

Even if she does, I'd still take the Fighters over her. This is a bandwagon for the Trainers at this point
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#75 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:34:58 PM | message detail
And yet R/B/Y never managed more than 36-37% on OoT at any one time.

Nothing else did or would either, except for FFVII. OOT is that beastly.
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#76 | Xuxon | Posted 12/13/2011 9:35:16 PM | message detail
I think if Luigi can SFF Pokemon and vice versa, Link can SFF Pokemon.
#77 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:35:46 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #075
And yet R/B/Y never managed more than 36-37% on OoT at any one time.

Nothing else did or would either, except for FFVII. OOT is that beastly.


And that's the point.

Everything Nintendo is so pressed beneath Link's boot that they can't ever hope to get out from under it.
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#78 | JJH777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:36:03 PM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #074
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Heh, if Samus keeps this up she might finish above Ryu/Ken.

Even if she does, I'd still take the Fighters over her. This is a bandwagon for the Trainers at this point


What? That makes no sense. An anti-bandwagon or something?
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#79 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:36:06 PM | message detail
FateStayAlbion posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Heh, if Samus keeps this up she might finish above Ryu/Ken.

Even if she does, I'd still take the Fighters over her. This is a bandwagon for the Trainers at this point


Wait, are you saying that Samus doing better on a stronger Trainer pair would imply Fighters beat her?

That's...not how it works.
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#80 | iGenesis | Posted 12/13/2011 9:37:27 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #073
And yet R/B/Y never managed more than 36-37% on OoT at any one time.


Because more people have rosy nostalgia for OOT than Pokemon G1.
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#81 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/13/2011 9:37:28 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2011 12:34:58 AM | message detail | quote
Nothing else did or would either, except for FFVII. OOT is that beastly.


FFVII probably would have put up about 60% on RBY, because it's that strong.
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#82 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2011 9:38:46 PM | message detail
Jesus, they're dying here. Samus may end up looking just a bit worse than Ryu/Ken, which is kinda asstacular for the Fighters since I was thinking they'd easily defeat Samus. Looks like this format has Link, Cloud, Mario, and Pokemon on top and then a bunch of teams jostling for the spots directly underneath.
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#83 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/13/2011 9:39:06 PM | message detail
I thought Samus would be doing a lot better here. Samus broke 45% on one of the titans of the character contest setting when she went out in Winter 2010, and Metroid Prime did likewise to one of the GOTD titans in that contest. But NOOOO, they have to get bowled over by Poketrainers.

I thought we'd be talking about how badly this bodes for Cloud's team since it reveals that Metal Gear entrants really aren't that strong. And...Samus has actually risen since the first five minutes?

In other words, I'm surprised how little discussion there is here. Way to disappoint me again, board, and remind me once again why I took to watching YouTube LPs instead of visiting these forums as often as I used to.
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#84 | JJH777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:39:41 PM | message detail
Other M
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#85 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:41:20 PM | message detail
And that's the point.

Everything Nintendo is so pressed beneath Link's boot that they can't ever hope to get out from under it.


That's not just Nintendo. That's all games except for FFVII. All the actual Nintendo games sans RBY would get doubled easy by OOT. Melee and Brawl got 26% and 30%. SM64 got 24% once. LTTP, SMW, and SMB3 would be real lucky to get 33%, they'd probably be happy with 30%. RBY's 37% is a standout performance.

In games nothing RBY could ever do could overcome OOT's huge natural strength advantage. But this is a different format. Here, the natural strength gap is a lot smaller. The SFF is the main problem.

That said, I really doubt the Trainers could pull off a successful bandwagon against Link/Cloud even if they fuel it by beating Mario. Too much strength for them to handle, even if it's not OOT/FFVII.
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#86 | Justin_Crossing | Posted 12/13/2011 9:41:28 PM | message detail
this

this is nuts
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#87 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:41:50 PM | message detail
There's a reason why people laughed at Cloud so much after Round 1 last contest. It's goddamn Ridley. Although it'll be hilarious seeing people use Ridley to justify taking something really dumb like Sonic > Samus.
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#88 | XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2011 9:42:14 PM | message detail
It's also amazing.

But it's such a good performance I'm more worried about the Mario match than I thought I would be. <_>
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#89 | janembaman | Posted 12/13/2011 9:43:58 PM | message detail
Wow,cool...
I mean,I have trainers beating Samus but I never actually thought that they would really be able to
I was against people underestimating the trainers but this is really too much right now imo
#90 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2011 9:46:06 PM | message detail
Samus doing a lot better than this implies that she'd take Ryu/Ken, which in turn implies she could take anything in this bracket outside the big four teams. I have a very hard time buying that, not with Ridley as her partner and the lukewarm performances they have managed before today. If that IS indeed true - that Samus can beat Fighters, Ninjas, Snakes, and X/Zero despite having such a weak partner, then Cloud's chances are thrown right out the window.

Even farther out the window, I mean.
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#92 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:49:59 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #085
The SFF is the main problem.


And it's enough.

It doesn't really matter if Pokemon can hold up better than other Nintendo franchises if they can't get close enough to actually compete to begin with.
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#93 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/13/2011 9:51:51 PM | message detail
JJH777 posted...
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The reason why I picked Half-Life 2 > Metroid Prime last contest, and Samus shot me in the back for it. So I decide to pick a Metroid entrant to go further this contest, and what do I get? This.

Although I just realized that the strongest Metroid entrant, in all our past three contests, lost the minute it got out of its division. Okay.
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#94 | Xuxon | Posted 12/13/2011 9:52:27 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #090
If that IS indeed true - that Samus can beat Fighters, Ninjas, Snakes, and X/Zero despite having such a weak partner, then Cloud's chances are thrown right out the window.


Not necessarily. Sub/Scorp and possibly fighters are still stronger than the sum of their parts. Samus/Ridley being stronger than the Snakes doesn't mean much because Liquid is even weaker than Ridley.
#95 | red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2011 9:52:27 PM | message detail
Samus doing a lot better than this implies that she'd take Ryu/Ken, which in turn implies she could take anything in this bracket outside the big four teams. I have a very hard time buying that, not with Ridley as her partner and the lukewarm performances they have managed before today. If that IS indeed true - that Samus can beat Fighters, Ninjas, Snakes, and X/Zero despite having such a weak partner, then Cloud's chances are thrown right out the window.

Trainers are still going to finish a lot higher here than against Ryu/Ken, so it still seems like they'd beat her. Same with X/Zero. Cloud/Seph > Trainers pretty clearly, so same with Snakes. Which leaves Ninjas, but considering Samus would be way over 50% (probably 60%) in a 3-way poll with them, it says rivalry factor is pretty powerful if they are even close to her.
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#96 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:53:35 PM | message detail

From: Xuxon | #094
Samus/Ridley being stronger than the Snakes doesn't mean much because Liquid is even weaker than Ridley.


Eh, I don't know about that.

I wouldn't take Ridley's performance against Cloud at face value.
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#97 | izNotPerfect | Posted 12/13/2011 9:53:56 PM | message detail
I just noticed how bad the match pics are, especially for Samus/Ridley

Aaaahahaha
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#98 | Xuxon | Posted 12/13/2011 9:57:06 PM | message detail | (edited)

From: LeonhartFour | #096
I wouldn't take Ridley's performance against Cloud at face value.


Maybe not, but Liquid is really weak and the stats say Ridley wins with 63%, so that's a lot of room to still be weaker than Ridley.
#99 | LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2011 9:57:50 PM | message detail
Liquid is pretty inexplicable in these contests, probably the most variable guy we've seen aside from maybe Sephiroth.
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#100 | Surskit | Posted 12/13/2011 9:59:18 PM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #093
The reason why I picked Half-Life 2 > Metroid Prime last contest, and Samus shot me in the back for it.


rofl
This is like saying Pokémon Colosseum made Pokémon RBY weaker. You got shot in the back because you had no idea what you were doing.
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