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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1036
From: charmander6000 | #450 *Golf Clap* I'm hoping for Red > Cloud final, personally, but <_< --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
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I
was just about to write how every one of the upcomings match is obvious
and I got them all right in my bracket and then I realized I have Mario
over Link WHAT WAS I DOING |
From: charmander6000 | #450 im hoping for Clouderoth > Mario --- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3219901/nakedlightning-o.gif |
I was hoping by the time they got to Samus they would have gotten a big enough bandwagon to beat Mario. Welp I guess it was a good run :( --- caps |
Just to confirm the poll between the second semifinal match and the final will be a fun third place poll? --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
Random
question, but do we have any stats on the actual size/influence of the
"board vote?" I always see it being cited as a factor and sometimes
even a deciding factor, but I have a hard time believing B8-related
votes number anything more than like, 200 at very maximum. --- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif |
Azp2k32 | Posted 12/15/2011 6:33:53 PM | message detail | quote Random question, but do we have any stats on the actual size/influence of the "board vote?" These poll updates and trend charts might be of some interest here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFJwWW5rem9Eci0zYkxsUGVSNjk0RkE In particular, you want to pay close attention to "Several times a day", because that contains the voters who would represent the board vote. To a smaller extent, some voters who voted for "Around once a day" would also represent the board vote. You can see how "Several times a day" bleeds percentage all day, in an L-Block type collapse --- Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ |
It's
a factor in that it decides the starting trends, but I don't think I've
seen people use it as a long term factor because as you said were
dealing with a few hundred votes in a poll that will eventually get tens
of thousands of votes. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/15/2011 6:25:59 PM | message detail | quote Just to confirm the poll between the second semifinal match and the final will be a fun third place poll? Yes, that's correct. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
-LusterSoldier- posted... In particular, you want to pay close attention to "Several times a day", because that contains the voters who would represent the board vote. To a smaller extent, some voters who voted for "Around once a day" would also represent the board vote. Oh, board vote refers to the boards in general? >_> Whoops. That makes a lot more sense than how I'd interpreted it all these years. --- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif |
I am sure that even if it was Link/CATS vs Cloud/Snake,Link would still won. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Azp2k32 | Posted 12/15/2011 6:55:08 PM | message detail | quote Oh, board vote refers to the boards in general? >_> Whoops. That makes a lot more sense than how I'd interpreted it all these years. That's the way I see the board vote. The board vote would be expected to have the lowest percentage of non-registered users voting in the poll. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #1806 He says it's lose-lose, but it sounds pretty obvious win-win to me. If Batman/Joker wins, then a contest with "starred in a video game" is inevitable. And we get to discuss all sorts of stuff - would Vader beat Link too? Where would Han Solo and Wolverine rank? etc. If Link stomps Batman (and I laugh pretty harshly at anyone who thinks this is possible), then a fictional character contest would have added nothing but mostly fodder and been fairly lame. And thus we aren't losing out on anything by never having it. If Link wins but it's competitive, then a fictional contest is still very viable and we still get lots of discussion, and new competitive characters replace fodder, causing more competitive matches. I see absolutely no downside to the bonus poll of champion vs. Batman/Joker. There is only upside. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #457 Wow is that the biggest percentage change in a poll ever? --- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis |
Wow is that the biggest percentage change in a poll ever? Nah, the continent poll contains that record, with North America going from 88.01% down to 66.08%, and then back up to 73.90%. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
BTW, I would have expected a lot more trends in a Link/Alucard poll. Link's day vote isn't really anything special here. It'll only shift about a point. Considering his opponent is horrid with the day vote, that's not much. We're talking close to top tier day vote vs. close to bottom tier day vote. I wonder if some schools are out already? That would explain more diluted trends. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
If
you're talking absolute percentage maybe. In relative terms,
Battler/Beatrice ended up with less than half the percentage they had at
the 5 minute mark. Not sure if anything has shifted more than that,
relatively. Though I guess in that case the two polls you quoted probably shifted more in that sense with the lower options, I see now a fee times a week went triple with what it started with. I can't remember if Battler ended up less than 1/3rd or not. |
From: creativename | #466 I really have no idea. The insignificant night shift was what really shocked me. Once that happened I didn't expect much of a day shift. |
creativename | Posted 12/15/2011 7:07:07 PM | message detail | quote I wonder if some schools are out already? That would explain more diluted trends. Schools won't start getting out until next week. The diluted trends are because of the ASV getting weaker over the past few years as the site continues to age older. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #469 That and the increasing prevalence of mobile phones with internet capabilities means people can vote at school/work during the day. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
creativename posted... I see absolutely no downside to the bonus poll of champion vs. Batman/Joker. There is only upside. I'd rather not see Batman/Joker or any other fictional character in a match until it is part of a contest. Then it would be brand new and more exciting. --- Red vs. Blue what is even special about this. -ZFS here's a guy that doesn't get it! No desire to be the very best! -SHINE GET 64 |
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that first one uh --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris |
Why do we need 7 pics when we have that first one? --- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif |
From: LeonhartFour | #472 Loving the fourth one. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
From: LeonhartFour | #472 since when was that rivalry sora/seifer --- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png |
Those pictures are terrible. Half of the have terrible/no lettering, and the other half are so messy and unorganized it hurts. Except the first one. That one is amazing. --- Game of the decade? More like Guru of the decade mirite? |
Match LX: (1) Cloud Strife/Sephiroth vs. (1) Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy Previous Round Cloud Strife/Sephiroth – 62.12% Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake – 37.88% Squall Leonhart/Seifer Almasy – 50.69% Sora/Riku – 49.31% Analysis Squall must be getting tired of running into the same opponent many times. Despite being in every contest he has only lost to someone other than Cloud and Solid Snake twice. Either way Cloud and Sephiroth are going to get some nice SFF in this match and with that said this will be the final match between the clash between Link and Cloud. I feel people are putting too much emphasis on Cloud and Sephiroth’s ability to SFF in terms of their strength. While it would be nice to watch the pair destroy Squall and Seifer it also would not be the end of the world should Squall and Seifer hold up better than our expectations. All massive SFF can tell us is that Cloud and Sephiroth are quite strong, but we already know that. Of course should Squall and Seifer over perform to the point where not only there is no SFF, but they are doing better than what we expect indirectly then it would be time to worry. In the past we’ve seen Cloud pull a near tripling on Squall, but with Sephiroth and Seifer added to the poll I feel that Cloud and Sephiroth will perform even better. With all of this SFF the x-stats will probably be as useless as the ones in four-ways should we even need them for a second rivalry rumble. charmander6000’s Bracket: Cloud Strife/Sephiroth > Sora/Riku charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud Strife/Sephiroth wins, 76.47% - 23.53% --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Rivalry Rumble: 85/112 Today: Link/Ganondorf |
From: tennisboy213 | #2351 But it would already be brand new and exciting...? What do we gain by waiting, exactly? "Mystery"? Why do we want too much of that? Some people here speculate the non-VG origin character would be weak (I consider these people whacko, but hey, every nut is entitled to their uninformed opinion :P...). Thus these characters should have to prove themselves before the populace of this site has a fictional character contest forced on them. If they'd be weak, then this site would prefer other contests and we can move on from the idea. Also if you're wondering about mystery about Batman vs. Link 1v1, there would still be mystery (The Joker smokes Ganon as a partner). And there can be characters (Vader) who can conceivably beat Batman. So in every possible situation - we win. 1) Batman/Joker win easily. Incredible excitement for fictional character contest builds, people wonder who else can beat Link, if Vader can beat Batman, etc. We get lots of uber-strong characters added. We win. 2) Batman/Joker win a close match. Excitement builds, unclear who the favorite to be champ is, etc. We get lots of very-strong characters added. We win. 3) Link/Ganon win a competitive match (Batman gets 40's). Batman proves fictional characters may not challenge Link but are legit, and should be allowed in to replace fodder. We get Vader and Spider-Man instead of Professor Layton and Sandal. We win. 4) Link/Ganon completely slaughter Batman/Joker. Not competitive. If Batman/Joker can't even compete, then a fictional contest is a silly notion. Get rid of it. Toss the idea in the trash. People on this site would clearly prefer something else. We win. In every single scenario, we win. Plus we get an awesome bonus match of Champion vs. Batman vs. Joker. Literally - there is *no* downside. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
From: creativename | #480 For filling out brackets? IMO 4) Is the only upside whatsoever. |
From: Xuxon | #2401 But The Joker is a much better partner than Ganon in terms of added to his rivalry, so there would still be debate unless The Batman/Joker completely curbstomps the match. This isn't 1v1. And who cares if Batman wins easily and becomes the clear bracket favorite? Oh no - a character that is a massive bracket favorite to win the tourney. Man, that's sure something we don't see Every. Single. Year >_> Not to mention Vader who again might be stronger than Batman. Although Batman vs. The Joker is probably a lock for strongest rivalry, Batman himself is not a lock for strongest non-VG origin character. I truly fail to see any downside. No matter what happens, it is good for the next contest - it either builds excitement for a fictional contest, or shows that a fictional contest is unwanted by the site. Win-win-win-win. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
From: creativename | #482 Okay, what if Link wins the match? Then no one picks Batman next year. Very few are going to pick Vader. It completely kills the excitement. It does not build excitement. |
From: Xuxon | #483 I was thinking about this, instead of using someone who we think could potentially win, use someone who could be potentially strong(like ~35%-40% on Link). That way we still have the mystery for the bracket and what not. Of course the only pairing I can think of is Goku/Vegeta. While DBZ probably wouldn't be in it's prime like it would have been 7-8 years ago, it's still relevant today because of Kai, this site likes Anime, people probably know who they are(Not to the extent of Batman of course), it's a strong rivalry, ect, ect. --- - |
From: creativename | #480 This contest should give you an idea of how bad it is when a contest has no element of mystery! And I think whether Link wins or loses being a mystery would be better for the contest than for it not to be a mystery. --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
Unless Alucard cuts 3 percentage points in the next hour, it is time for the congrats to Link. Congrats to Link for breaking all 4 possible round by round percentage records in this match. Link now has the highest percentage ever scored in: The third to last round. A non region/division match Elite 8 Round 4th Round. Pretty sure Zelda held all those records anyway, but oh well. --- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier |
From: Xuxon | #2403 But that's not true because as I said, this isn't 1v1. Batman vs. The Joker is pretty much the most iconic American pop culture rivalry of the past century. If Batman wins 55-45 you could easily argue Link still wins 1v1, because The Joker>>>Ganon in terms of what he adds to the "team chemistry". And if Batman loses, so what, Link is the obvious favorite but we still know for a fact that we'd get a more stacked field as long as Batman/The Joker is competitive. Also how does it kill any excitement? If Batman wins excitement builds because we'll see new characters, and have more competitive, closer matches because the field will be more stacked. This contest is about the matches - not the winner. What we want is to have the best, most stacked field possible because that flattens out the strength curve and gives the highest probability of close, exciting matches. From: Sorozone | #2404Of course the only pairing I can think of is Goku/Vegeta. They'd be lucky to break 30% on Link these days. Not going to be strong at all. Waaay past their prime, have gone the opposite direction of Pokemon. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I still think they'd be strong than you think and Batman would be weaker than you think. I don't think either beats Link though! --- - |
From: LeonhartFour | #2405And I think whether Link wins or loses being a mystery would be better for the contest than for it not to be a mystery. Unless Batman/Joker 60/40's the match or Link wins, there would still be an element of mystery as to who wins 1v1. But you need to stop fixating on the contest winner. The contest is about more than that. And if you don't want to use up Batman/The Joker put in something else like Wolverine/Sabretooth, Spider-Man/Venom, Magneto/Professor X or something. If they get 30% on Link/Ganon that's better than what only a handful of teams in this sorry ass field could manage, so that's already proving something about how competitive such teams would be. Although I find this incredibly less appealing than Batman/The Joker which would be perfect. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Link, Zelda & Ganondorf vs. Luffy, Naruto & Goku --- Wem-ber-ly!, Wem-ber-ly! Were the famous MAN UNITED!! and we're going to Wem-ber-ly! GE: g[Anon]dorf - ManU*AnonGE |
That's just unfair, Shounen trio would stomp! --- - |
From: creativename | #487 Batman winning 55-45 or less isn't inevitable. And if Batman loses, so what, Link is the obvious favorite but we still know for a fact that we'd get a more stacked field as long as Batman/The Joker is competitive. Then the winner is obvious. The winner not being obvious >>> the winner being obvious. This should be obvious. <_< Also how does it kill any excitement? If Batman wins excitement builds because we'll see new characters, and have more competitive, closer matches because the field will be more stacked. This contest is about the matches - not the winner. It kills excitement about matches regardless. If Batman does well enough there's a point where no one's going to take Mega Man over him. Some point higher than that, no one's going to take Mario over him. I think a lot of people would take Mario over Batman with no info, and yes some number would take MM/Crono/Sonic over him even. What we want is to have the best, most stacked field possible because that flattens out the strength curve and gives the highest probability of close, exciting matches. Running the bonus match will not make the field stronger, and not running it will not prevent an all-fictional contest. |
The one problem is that unless the match is close, Link vs. Batman would not be a debated match in the next contest. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
From: Xuxon | #2452Running the bonus match will not make the field stronger, and not running it will not prevent an all-fictional contest. As I said, these characters should have to prove themselves first. Otherwise - no fictional character contest deserves to happen, because we don't know if the site overall would give them strength. Also without them proving themselves, or something, I doubt Bacon flows with the idea. Running the bonus match decides whether the fictional field exists or not. As for mystery, presumably the first round would be VG vs. non-VG. This means that when Batman likely faces an established VG character in the *first round*, there will already be a consensus favorite to win the tourney. It's not like we'd have to wait long. With x-stats, when Batman faces a VG guy, we're probably going to know if he can beat Link or not almost right away. That's different than a pre-bracket making favorite, but for the Battle it's the same. And in any case as I said. The match result would not necessarily be definitive, and even if it was big whoop - we have a huge bracket favorite every single year! This would change nothing. If you want fictional character to prove themselves in some alternative fashion, then you should be proposing alternative ideas. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
From: red sox 777 | #2453 Again...people seriously need to stop fixating on one match. A contest is more than one match. Especially when there's a good chance this hypothetical match's result will be nebulous anyway, since it's not 1v1. If people want a fictional contest they should propose some other way to test. Say, Vader/Obi-Wan (I think that would be stronger than Vader/Luke). Even if they lose, as long as it's respectable we don't know the Link/Batman result. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Fictional
characters don't really need to prove themselves to get a shot at a
contest. I think most people here think they could be very strong; only
a few people are of the opinion that they'd be fodderized by the VG
characters. Batman vs. Fodder/Low Midcard VG character in the first round wouldn't ruin Link/Batman. Vincent's 79% on Kerrigan and Tifa's 79% (or whatever it actually was) on Vyse didn't turn into the final four runs that they could have forebode. We likely will not be able to draw anything conclusive from Batman and Link's first round matches. On the other hand, if Link/Ganon beats Batman/Joker, a huge part of the appeal of the fictional character contest goes out the window. Because no one will take Batman > Link if Batman/Joker can't beat Link/Ganon. And people would have to be pretty daring to take any other fictional character if it looks like Link would handle Batman without a problem. Edit: I would be very interested in seeing Link/Ganon vs. Vader/Luke. But remember this is also only one match. If we do this now, we're only getting one match out of it. --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
Although
personally I think it would be criminal if Batman vs. The Joker never
got tested in the only format it could possibly be tested in :( It's not like we'll see a rivalry bracket again, so Batman vs. The Joker will never happen unless it happens now. To see the potentially strongest rivalry completely gone to waste....that makes me a sad panda :( --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
From: red sox 777 | #2456Batman vs. Fodder/Low Midcard VG character in the first round wouldn't ruin Link/Batman. Vincent's 79% on Kerrigan and Tifa's 79% (or whatever it actually was) on Vyse Not good comparisons. Kerrigan was a new character - with half the field consisting of new non-VG characters, the odds of a new VG character we've never seen before making it are slim, because only the strong VG characters will make it. And Tifa/Vyse was considered SFF. The odds of Batman vs. anything VG being considered SFF are slim...unless it's Solid Snake or something, who he wouldn't face in the first round anyway :) Again Batman vs. 1st round opponent would not be definitive, but it would very likely give us a clear favorite. Remember that turbofodder VG characters are highly unlikely to make the field. Odds are that Batman would be facing someone halfway-legit in the first round. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
The
odds of Batman vs. anything VG being considered SFF are slim...unless
it's Solid Snake or something, who he wouldn't face in the first round
anyway :) Knowing Bacon, I wouldn't put it past him. Oh no, I've got to find someone to give Batman an SFF match.......oh! Let's try Solid Snake! That's as close to SFF as I can find in this bracket! --- 2002 Link, 2003 Cloud, 2004 Link, 2005 Link, 2006 Link, 2008 Link, 2010 Link, 2011 Cloud. Link 6, Cloud 2 |
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